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by **Ms. Trebuchette** » Tue Jul 31, 2018 3:52 pm

Burn wrote:
Ms. Trebuchette wrote:Okay, but hear me out here, there a LOT of women and LGBTQ+ persons saying that they *liked* the way that IDW handled their inclusion because they felt represented and they had characters they identified with.

And has anyone said otherwise? You're emphasising a point that no one seems to be disputing.

Ms. Trebuchette wrote:I don't want to shout the "b" word at everyone who disagrees with me, but it doesn't strike you as odd that most of the complaints about these narratives AREN'T COMING FROM women or LGBTQ+ folk since John, James, and Mairghread took over?

Doesn't strike me odd at all. IDW set out to write stories to include those groups. They clearly achieved that.

I have NEVER disputed that, and in fact, a LOT of people wouldn't dispute it. So again, you seem to be emphasising a point that the majority agree with.

My personal "grievance" with all the socio-political/inclusive stuff is the timing, as I said, I felt it was done because that was the "flavour of the moment".

But here's another reason. I read comic books, I watch TV shows and movies as an escape from reality.

The fight for marriage equality went on in Australia for years. The Government could easily have changed the law but they dragged their feet, so for years I had to listen to "friends" sprout their bigotry.

I just wanted it legalised. To me there was no debate.

But for years while it dragged on, it kept getting pushed to the top of the news cycle.

Then the Government decided to hold a plebiscite. $150million AUD would be spent on plebiscite that would 1 - Be voluntary and 2 - the Government didn't even need to abide by it if it was an overwhelming "Yes".

Which ignited the flames even more and the bigots got louder, the supporters got louder, and I just wanted marriage equality to be legalised, but had to endure all the arguments.

So I try to escape to the comics ... and it's there too. This spills over to the forums. Suddenly my escape from reality has had reality seep in.

It made the comics hard for me to enjoy.

So you see, some people aren't bigots. They just want to escape from reality for a little bit.

Perhaps if I hadn't had to sit through years of loud noisy bigots fearful that marriage equality would cause cows to stop producing milk then I might have been able to enjoy the comics more, I dunno.

Okay. With all due respect, you seem to have misconstrued my point, but I think that might be my fault.
So let me clarify!

As a woman and a member of the LGBTQ+ community, I WELCOMED the inclusion of characters that were like me. The biggest thing that IDW's series have done for the Transformers is that, for the first time in 34 years of consuming Transformers media, I see myself reflected back when I pick up the comics. I see characters that INTIMATELY identify with because their struggles are so similar to my own. And I see those characters/stories fictionalized and idealized. I'd give my left arm if I could treat everyone who disrespected me to the business end of a laser sword.

I'm sorry if the inclusion of LGBTQ+ couples hit to closely for home for you because you had to deal with it every day. But AS A MEMBER of the LGBTQ+ community, we *NEED* to see ourselves depicted in media that we enjoy. It makes us feel like we belong in this society. We face discrimination EVERY DAY; THAT is OUR LIFE.

Do we not deserve to see ourselves included in Transformers comics? I'm sorry if our inclusion in comics reminds you that real LGBTQ+ persons are struggling every day.

News Credits: 419 · by **Bronzewolf** » Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:13 pm

Ms. Trebuchette wrote:
I don't want to shout the "b" word at everyone who disagrees with me, but it doesn't strike you as odd that most of the complaints about these narratives AREN'T COMING FROM women or LGBTQ+ folk since John, James, and Mairghread took over?

Food for thought.

And, as I said, I doubt most people complaining would have the same issue if straight relationships were executed in the same way or were as """in your face""", as some have put it.

I'm sorry if our inclusion in comics reminds you that real LGBTQ+ persons are struggling every day.

Wow. I was about to write some big paragraph but this puts it better than I ever could.

I just don't understand this mentality. It feels like the flavor of the month because this is the first time in history that LGBTQ people are being widely (widely, compared to previous decades) represented in media. Burn, with all due respect, what you wrote comes across as "I don't want to see LGBTQ representation in my comics because I don't want to be reminded they exist."
I don't understand this mentality.
When I see a Black person in a comic book my thought most definitely is not "Oh, I'm sick of hearing about Black Lives Matter". :-?

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:18 pm

You keep reiterating the same point again and again. I GET YOUR POINT! I really do. The timing of everything was just terrible and I just wanted a little breather from reality, but it didn't happen.

But NEVER did it change my support of the LGBQTI community.

Which is why this...

Bronzewolf wrote:Burn, what you wrote comes across as "I don't want to see LGBTQ representation in my comics because I don't want to be reminded they exist."

Is incredibly hurtful, especially from someone that I actually considered a friend. But whatever. I've had my say, I've explained myself clearly as possible. If people want to twist it around and judge me fine, whatever. Go right ahead.

News Credits: 419 · by **Bronzewolf** » Tue Jul 31, 2018 4:26 pm

Burn wrote:
Bronzewolf wrote:Burn, what you wrote comes across as "I don't want to see LGBTQ representation in my comics because I don't want to be reminded they exist."

Is incredibly hurtful, especially from someone that I actually considered a friend. But whatever. I've had my say, I've explained myself clearly as possible. If people want to twist it around and judge me fine, whatever. Go right ahead.

No, no, no, I apologize. I do absolutely consider you a very good friend, and I've followed your support of LGBTQ people and your tribulations with the AU government via social media from day one. I didn't mean what I said in the way of that's explicitly what you meant, I was asking for clarification, IE my point with Black Lives Matter, and saying I didn't understand your mentality. I didn't get that point across well enough, was too brash, and I'm horrifically sorry. I DID NOT mean to offend. I understand how much of a drugdeing process it has been over there, and it's been similarly awful over here. I just, personally, cannot relate to your point. I apologize again.

by **Ms. Trebuchette** » Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:20 pm

Burn wrote:You keep reiterating the same point again and again. I GET YOUR POINT! I really do. The timing of everything was just terrible and I just wanted a little breather from reality, but it didn't happen.

But NEVER did it change my support of the LGBQTI community.

Which is why this...

Bronzewolf wrote:Burn, what you wrote comes across as "I don't want to see LGBTQ representation in my comics because I don't want to be reminded they exist."

Is incredibly hurtful, especially from someone that I actually considered a friend. But whatever. I've had my say, I've explained myself clearly as possible. If people want to twist it around and judge me fine, whatever. Go right ahead.

Burn, I don't really know you, but please trust me when I say I'm not trying to call you (or even imply) that you are a bigot. You're comments seem to be respectful of others and don't use language that is intended to harass or would constitute a slur.

What I am trying to say though, is that myself, as a queer trans woman, and many other LGBTQ+ folks in this fandom read the same comics you do BECAUSE we need an escape for our governments, our neighbors, and even our families trying to deny, denigrate, and/or erase our existence. I know as a straight ally, it must feel exhausting sometimes. But as someone who doesn't get to "clock out" at the end of the day, we *NEED* to see characters like us in the things we enjoy who don't have to fight for their rights and aren't treated as "others" or "unimportant" because of who we are.

Don't we deserve to see ourselves in the things we love? I know you might need the breather sometimes, but I don't have that luxury.

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Tue Jul 31, 2018 5:44 pm

How many times do I have to say that I understand your point?

I was simply explaining why I found it hard to enjoy the comics any more. But at every step of the way I've been made to feel, by you and Bronzewolf, that I am WRONG. You keep reiterating the same point to me again and again like I'm too stupid to comprehend your stance.

I comprehend your opinion. I've always comprehended your opinion. I've never once said your opinion was wrong.

I explained myself for one reason and one reason only. To show that not everyone who didn't like the inclusion of the socio-political material wasn't a bigot.

Once again, yes, it's great that the LGBTQI community have material they can relate to, but for me, personally, my own personal experience, it came at a bad time FOR ME.

These are my personal feelings and experiences. They relate to ME. They are not the opinions of Seibertron.com or any one else, JUST ME. They're also neither right or wrong.

So please, understand where I'm coming from, because I certainly don't need to be made to feel like an idiot that needs things explained to them again and again, because I DO understand perfectly where you're coming from.

News Credits: 12 · by **Evil Eye** » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:04 pm

I mean, I don't want sociopolitical drama in my TF media period. I don't want to see myself in these comics, I want to see Optimus Prime and Megatron. I just want ridiculous super deformation robo hijinks.

That's why I'm glad IDW is ending- what little I read of it had a stick up its arse a mile long, trying way too hard to be le dark and serious and meaningful but just coming off as pretentious. Transformers works at its best when it's at least a little bit silly, because fundamentally the concept of robots with names like Starscream and Ironhide is just daft. Not bad, but daft. The best TF series- namely Beast Wars and Animated- acknowledged that. IDW tried way too hard to be some serious work of art, and in the process at least IMO completely lost its heart and soul.

Not to mention blatant "Flavour of the month" pandering, from "Sentinel Prime is totally this world leader we don't like!" to "Oh BTW these obnoxious characters nobody liked are also totally trans because they're the new hotness please start liking Anode and Lug!" to unironically using the term "Mansplaining" to Bruticus' torso being in love with his right arm (the jokes write themselves) to PREGNANT SCORPONOK. Like, did anyone seriously say "You know, I'd really like Transformers more if there was some Mpreg in it"? What does that accomplish?

So yeah. Overall I'm pretty glad the IDW universe is coming to an end. It was an interesting experiment but it's Quite aside from anything else I might actaully be able to start from the beginning of the new continuity, assuming it isn't terrible.

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:13 pm

Black Hat wrote:I just want ridiculous super deformation robo hijinks.

You want robo hijinks? We got your robo hijinks!

Black Hat wrote:PREGNANT SCORPONOK.

Honestly, I rolled my eyes when that was revealed, but in all honesty, by that point they'd pulled so many crazy hijinks it just wasn't out of the norm.

News Credits: 12 · by **Evil Eye** » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:21 pm

Burn wrote:
Black Hat wrote:I just want ridiculous super deformation robo hijinks.

You want robo hijinks? We got your robo hijinks!

Black Hat wrote:PREGNANT SCORPONOK.

Honestly, I rolled my eyes when that was revealed, but in all honesty, by that point they'd pulled so many crazy hijinks it just wasn't out of the norm.

Oh I getcha, absolutely. And had it been played as a silly "What? I thought it was a good idea!"/"Aliens imitating humans badly" gag it would have been funny. I mean, to be fair it is funny. But it wasn't supposed to be, and that was...well, it sure was something.

I dunno. Maybe I'm just jaded by the current "All media has to be political and if you don't like it you're a BIGOT" atmosphere the nerdverse has at the moment. One of the reasons I'm increasingly watching old, more obscure anime rather than consuming newer media is that being as it is, well, old and obscure (and from a country that does not care about that kind of thing), it's safe from all that. Like, not many people are going to screech about more (X) characters in Iczer-1 considering most people who do that sort of thing haven't even heard of it.

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:38 pm

You've been told several times before that Japan is not what you think Japan is, and these discussions are very much happening in Japanese media, its fandoms, and its consumer bases in and out of Japan. Also, Black Hat, you were told by people in this very topic to knock it off with your tendency towards trans/homophobic comments. So maybe knock it off?

As for the topic at hand, and going back to the potential beginning of a new series of comics with IDW Publishing: if not War for Cybertron links, what else could a new universe rotate around? Or, alternatively, what else would you want it to be about?

News Credits: 12 · by **Evil Eye** » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:45 pm

Va'al wrote:You've been told several times before that Japan is not what you think Japan is, and these discussions are very much happening in Japanese media, its fandoms, and its consumer bases in and out of Japan.

I mean, all I remember is one individual screeching about the Legends comics offending the delicate sensibilities of him and some of his moral busybody friends ALLEDGEDLY in Japan (I say alledgedly because anyone can claim to be anything on the internet). And I'd really appreciate it if you didn't get quite so defensive over me expressing my distaste at the need some people have to inject politics into absolutely everything. It's quite reasonable to get burnt out by the politicization of anything and everything and to want it to stop.

by **Ms. Trebuchette** » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:52 pm

Va'al wrote:You've been told several times before that Japan is not what you think Japan is, and these discussions are very much happening in Japanese media, its fandoms, and its consumer bases in and out of Japan. Also, Black Hat, you were told by people in this very topic to knock it off with your tendency towards trans/homophobic comments. So maybe knock it off?

As for the topic at hand, and going back to the potential beginning of a new series of comics with IDW Publishing: if not War for Cybertron links, what else could a new universe rotate around? Or, alternatively, what else would you want it to be about?

I really like the idea of going back to Spotlight/mini-series forum. Especially if the goal is a new stab at the Hasbro-verse, you could have a variety of stories set during different time periods.

But, then again, that's basically what the current IDW verse did at the beginning.

I almost wonder if it makes sense to start with a Maxi-series (a la AHM) set during the early stages of the war with one-shots and minis as backup to different periods (during, before, and after).

The *hardest* part of the new IDW continuity will be to go someplace different narratively with the characters/story.

News Credits: 12 · by **Evil Eye** » Tue Jul 31, 2018 6:57 pm

Va'al wrote:Also, Black Hat, you were told by people in this very topic to knock it off with your tendency towards trans/homophobic comments. So maybe knock it off?

No thanks. You'll just twist what I say to claim that anything at all I say that contradicts your world view is an "ism" of some form. I know how this silly game works- you try and make me look like some kind of monster for just defending myself and force me to apologize or shut up. Well guess what, it isn't going to work. I haven't done anything wrong here- all I've said is "I don't like comics about robots turning into cars trying too hard to be serious and politically charged". Not exactly an offensive statement. If you somehow find what I'm saying to be offensive then I'm sorry but I'm not going to censor myself just because you or anyone else dislikes an inoccuous statement of opinion.

You clearly have some form of vendetta against me, and I don't care for it one bit. If you don't like me or what I have to say that's fine, but that's on you. Don't go giving me tellings-off over it.

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:03 pm

Black Hat wrote:
Va'al wrote:Also, Black Hat, you were told by people in this very topic to knock it off with your tendency towards trans/homophobic comments. So maybe knock it off?

No thanks. You'll just twist what I say to claim that anything at all I say that contradicts your world view is an "ism" of some form. I know how this silly game works- you try and make me look like some kind of monster for just defending myself and force me to apologize or shut up. Well guess what, it isn't going to work. I haven't done anything wrong here- all I've said is "I don't like comics about robots turning into cars trying too hard to be serious and politically charged". Not exactly an offensive statement. If you somehow find what I'm saying to be offensive then I'm sorry but I'm not going to censor myself just because you or anyone else dislikes an inoccuous statement of opinion.

You clearly have some form of vendetta against me, and I don't care for it one bit. If you don't like me or what I have to say that's fine, but that's on you. Don't go giving me tellings-off over it.

If you don't make homo/transphobic comments I won't ask you not to make them. I'd personally never interact with you if I can help it, but tonight is quite the night, so here we are. Saying what you just said and how you said it is the kind of level and type of disagreement I'm more than happy to engage with, even if I think wrong (because I believe nothing can be non-political, by media's very nature).

Ms. Trebuchette wrote:
Va'al wrote:You've been told several times before that Japan is not what you think Japan is, and these discussions are very much happening in Japanese media, its fandoms, and its consumer bases in and out of Japan. Also, Black Hat, you were told by people in this very topic to knock it off with your tendency towards trans/homophobic comments. So maybe knock it off?

As for the topic at hand, and going back to the potential beginning of a new series of comics with IDW Publishing: if not War for Cybertron links, what else could a new universe rotate around? Or, alternatively, what else would you want it to be about?

I really like the idea of going back to Spotlight/mini-series forum. Especially if the goal is a new stab at the Hasbro-verse, you could have a variety of stories set during different time periods.

But, then again, that's basically what the current IDW verse did at the beginning.

I almost wonder if it makes sense to start with a Maxi-series (a la AHM) set during the early stages of the war with one-shots and minis as backup to different periods (during, before, and after).

The *hardest* part of the new IDW continuity will be to go someplace different narratively with the characters/story.

A new Hasbroverse but starting from the very beginning? :-?

I'm not sure, I still feel like the MCU method was the better way for that, and it'll take a little too long to get to that point with everything starting now.

News Credits: 226 · by **Burn** » Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:12 pm

Ms. Trebuchette wrote:I almost wonder if it makes sense to start with a Maxi-series (a la AHM) set during the early stages of the war with one-shots and minis as backup to different periods (during, before, and after).

An over-arching major book with side issues ... why do I get the feeling that's going to get awfully confusing.

It would probably be glorious, and a fantastic way to tell the stories of lesser known characters but I just know I'll have trouble keeping up. :lol:

News Credits: 6188 · by **Va'al** » Tue Jul 31, 2018 7:15 pm

Burn wrote:
Ms. Trebuchette wrote:I almost wonder if it makes sense to start with a Maxi-series (a la AHM) set during the early stages of the war with one-shots and minis as backup to different periods (during, before, and after).

An over-arching major book with side issues ... why do I get the feeling that's going to get awfully confusing.

It would probably be glorious, and a fantastic way to tell the stories of lesser known characters but I just know I'll have trouble keeping up.

I think I agree on this to an extent, though. The side stories wouldn't have to be needed to 'get' the story told in the main series, in my view, which is where the Spotlights eventually faded.

A bit like the Anthology (Rogue One, Solo) movies for the Star Wars franchise, I suppose.

by **Ms. Trebuchette** » Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:05 pm

Va'al wrote:
Burn wrote:
Ms. Trebuchette wrote:I almost wonder if it makes sense to start with a Maxi-series (a la AHM) set during the early stages of the war with one-shots and minis as backup to different periods (during, before, and after).

An over-arching major book with side issues ... why do I get the feeling that's going to get awfully confusing.

It would probably be glorious, and a fantastic way to tell the stories of lesser known characters but I just know I'll have trouble keeping up.

I think I agree on this to an extent, though. The side stories wouldn't have to be needed to 'get' the story told in the main series, in my view, which is where the Spotlights eventually faded.

A bit like the Anthology (Rogue One, Solo) movies for the Star Wars franchise, I suppose.

Yeah, that is more along the lines of my thinking. I agree with Burn, if the point is to simplify the continuity for a while, then one-shots, minis that explore other things but have a very loose/non-integral connection to the main story is the only way to go. I think Nick REALLY GOOD JOB of this with the Wreckers Saga.

by **Ms. Trebuchette** » Tue Jul 31, 2018 8:11 pm

Black Hat wrote:
Va'al wrote:Also, Black Hat, you were told by people in this very topic to knock it off with your tendency towards trans/homophobic comments. So maybe knock it off?

No thanks. You'll just twist what I say to claim that anything at all I say that contradicts your world view is an "ism" of some form. I know how this silly game works- you try and make me look like some kind of monster for just defending myself and force me to apologize or shut up. Well guess what, it isn't going to work. I haven't done anything wrong here- all I've said is "I don't like comics about robots turning into cars trying too hard to be serious and politically charged". Not exactly an offensive statement. If you somehow find what I'm saying to be offensive then I'm sorry but I'm not going to censor myself just because you or anyone else dislikes an inoccuous statement of opinion.

You clearly have some form of vendetta against me, and I don't care for it one bit. If you don't like me or what I have to say that's fine, but that's on you. Don't go giving me tellings-off over it.

Personally, I don't necessarily need more serious philosophical underpinnings.

I just need more lesbians. Trans lesbians. Cis lesbians. Genderfluid/Nonbinary queer folk. Monogamous Lesbians. Polyamorous Lesbians. Bisexual women. Asexual women. I'd even be okay with a few gay and bisexual cis guys (so long as Knock-out and Breakdown have some a spot).

I also have neat fanfic about the Combaticons and how protective they are of Brawl because he's a trans guy in case there's ever an an open call for pitches!

So yeah. Less political. But MORE GAY.

That's how I want my IDW 2.0.

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Wed Aug 01, 2018 1:01 am

Maybe we can have more beast wars series this time round please :-D

just make them better then what we got...

It's hard trying to think of what they should start with or even how they should start as they'll need to approach it with a fresh angle. Also, no,sling it more like the cartoon is not fresh, as that's just Dreamwave. I don't envy the new creative team with this task.

by **Lothar Hex** » Wed Aug 01, 2018 4:58 am

Moonshot wrote:
Honest question here, but isn't a trans lesbian just a cross-dressing straight guy?

JESUS.

News Credits: 54 · by **Deadput** » Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:52 am

Va'al wrote:Serving a little here, but a thought I had finally coalesced into something coherent last night, and I needed to write it down.

Plenty of people have been saying this in the past years too, but what I'd also really like to see in a new fictional universe is something similar to the initial Spotlights that the -ation era brought in - not only focusing on new characters, and giving them a personal story that can then be woven into the wider narrative, but also to ..well, spotlight new creative teams. And I mean NEW creative teams.

I want to see the fan artists who made variant covers get to do some interior work, but I also want to see entirely new writers pitch a story and get to write it themselves, pairing up with artists and colours under editorial guidance from IDW (be it Barber or Mariotte, and Long on production, for example). Think of the Mosaics project, think of the Seeds of Deception et al. on deviantArt (that we keep seeing in the creative round-ups).

You could call it Siege: War Stories, if the new narratives have to do with War for Cybertron. Get fans - all fans - to pitch the plots, the team, the one character story, have OCs show up alongside the core cast from Siege, have stories that could be in the background (NAILs, grunts, Badgeless, whoever) take front and centre for one issue, and then be forgotten if needed, but give them and the fandom a chance to actually suggest what we could want to see. It's less feasible the more I get excited about it, but holy shirt it would be amazing and a way to get really new, fresh material show up from the already extremely prolific creative side of the fandom.

Now where do I sign up for this eh?

I've always keep on making up ideas for stories and characters (including existing characters like Shockwave or Optimus) but I don't think there is a job at...well anywhere that's "Idea guy" so probably out of luck there.

An idea for example is about how Combiners are made, so instead of the Enigma of Combination being some Matrix ripoff that magically grants Transformers combination abilities, it would be a metal from one giant artifact that was broken long ago due to war, Transformers (Even before the war) would always be looking for these chunks of the enigma (Think movie Allspark sized before it shrunk) and the metal would be melted down and forged into new bodies where either volunteers would undergo surgery of moving their internal parts and "organs" into new bodies specifically for combination or they would be bodies used for new protoforms (think something sort of similar to Ventor Sigma in the cartoon)

This way there wouldn't be stuff like "why isn't everybody a combiner if their that easy to make" and Combiners won't be around in masses, another cool idea with this concept is that not whole teams have to be made but there can even be times where individual limb bots are created as backup for existing combiners.

Also the Combined forms wouldn't be their own person but more of an amalgamation of personalities from the existing individuals, that would open up to some of the conflictions that Combiners had in previous media so it would be even more punishing for combiners where the members don't get alone well.

by **Ms. Trebuchette** » Wed Aug 01, 2018 11:02 am

Another thought I had this morning, in terms of reboot possibilities!

New stories set explicitly in the G1 toon-verse, but catering to a more mature audience. There are loads of plot holes that could be plugged between/within S2, S3, and the movie and stories that could occur after Rebirth. This could accommodate some fans who want a return to bot-on-bot warfare while also providing avenues for more complex other stories to be told elsewhere!

News Credits: 1350 · by **ZeroWolf** » Wed Aug 01, 2018 12:41 pm

Sorry but if they went that route solely? I would bow out. We had the G1 toon and Dreamwave for that. I want a fresh new take on things, want to do another g1 reimagining like idw at first? Then perfect. Not to say that I don't think they should offer a continuation series as well as the reboot. One ongoing for the reboot and another as a true season 5 of the cartoon continuity. That would be fine for me as it's the best of both worlds.

by **Ms. Trebuchette** » Wed Aug 01, 2018 12:52 pm

ZeroWolf wrote:Sorry but if they went that route solely? I would bow out. We had the G1 toon and Dreamwave for that. I want a fresh new take on things, want to do another g1 reimagining like idw at first? Then perfect. Not to say that I don't think they should offer a continuation series as well as the reboot. One ongoing for the reboot and another as a true season 5 of the cartoon continuity. That would be fine for me as it's the best of both worlds.

That's valid! I'm just trying to think of alternatives that IDW could explore before it really kicks off a new continuity. I'm guessing we won't get a proper new continuity until some point towards the middle-to-end of next year.

It's kinda like you need to let a steak rest before you eat it. Give the end of IDW 1.0 some time to settle and then move on. Otherwise, i think it will be jarring for many of the current readers (especially if the take is similar)

News Credits: 3 · by **ArmadaPrime** » Wed Aug 01, 2018 4:15 pm

Deadput wrote:An idea for example is about how Combiners are made...

I've trimmed the quote to not eat up the page but them's some real neat ideas! Even if ones that I wouldn't go for myself- I like to think of personality & compatibility having a big role in combining, and some individuals just being more predisposed to it than others, the same way some people gel more easily in a team IRL.

I am very much both excited and a little worried to see how a lot of these high-level concepts are realised in the eventual new continuity though. So many aspects of the current IDW run are just ingrained into the core Transformers mythos for me now- from stuff like the idea of Forged and Constructed-Cold robots, to Conjunx Endurae, Rossum's Trinity of the Brain/Spark/T-Cog, and even more individual things like Megatron and Galvatron being two wholly distinct robots. It'll be... interesting, to say the least, to see how much gets carried over, how much gets reinterpreted, and what might get left behind entirely.