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SlyTF1 wrote:Shadowman wrote:The only difference being, is that people in real life actually like me, because I'm an "*******."
And much like your claims to being a god, I'm calling **** on that one.
SlyTF1 wrote:I don't understand how people can be against someone's work because they don't like the individual. There are plenty of people I don't like, yet I enjoy their works. Because you disagree with them, they deserve to be boycotted?
Burn wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:I don't understand how people can be against someone's work because they don't like the individual. There are plenty of people I don't like, yet I enjoy their works. Because you disagree with them, they deserve to be boycotted?
ummm yes ... why would I support someone, and most likely, hand over my money for their creations if I disagree with their beliefs?
Why would I say "love your stuff, have my money! Oh but I hate you because of your homophobic stance." Seriously ... that makes no sense.
SlyTF1 wrote:Burn wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:I don't understand how people can be against someone's work because they don't like the individual. There are plenty of people I don't like, yet I enjoy their works. Because you disagree with them, they deserve to be boycotted?
ummm yes ... why would I support someone, and most likely, hand over my money for their creations if I disagree with their beliefs?
Why would I say "love your stuff, have my money! Oh but I hate you because of your homophobic stance." Seriously ... that makes no sense.
I take it you refuse any product created by someone with a stance you disagree with?
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
SlyTF1 wrote:Burn wrote:SlyTF1 wrote:I don't understand how people can be against someone's work because they don't like the individual. There are plenty of people I don't like, yet I enjoy their works. Because you disagree with them, they deserve to be boycotted?
ummm yes ... why would I support someone, and most likely, hand over my money for their creations if I disagree with their beliefs?
Why would I say "love your stuff, have my money! Oh but I hate you because of your homophobic stance." Seriously ... that makes no sense.
I take it you refuse any product created by someone with a stance you disagree with?
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:The CEO of Johnson and Johnson was a victim of a similar smear campaign, accusing him of being a Satanist.
Burn wrote:SKYWARPED_128 wrote:The CEO of Johnson and Johnson was a victim of a similar smear campaign, accusing him of being a Satanist.
Wasn't just the CEO. I remember first seeing that stuff back in the 90's, a letter circulating around stating that J&J profits supported Satanism. Even today it's still out there.
Of course there's no way to prove whether it's fact or fiction.
But L. Ron Hubbard founding a cult and Orson Scott being a homophobe? Those are facts, and I will not be going anywhere near their stuff.
I don't get why you can't understand that way of thinking. So I guess you're okay with handing over your hard earned money to a cult that brainwashes its members and persecutes those who try to leave their "church" and speak out about it?
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:Although I get the feeling that your last 2 paragraphs were meant for Sly instead.
SlyTF1 wrote:I got about 5 people who actually wanted to read it, that's all I need, money.
Ironhidensh wrote:This thread has me thinking though, how many of us act the same online, as we do in real life.
Burn wrote:SKYWARPED_128 wrote:The CEO of Johnson and Johnson was a victim of a similar smear campaign, accusing him of being a Satanist.
Wasn't just the CEO. I remember first seeing that stuff back in the 90's, a letter circulating around stating that J&J profits supported Satanism. Even today it's still out there.
Mykltron wrote:Just FYI, true Satanists aren't the baby-sacrificing paedophiles that they're made out to be. That's Christian propaganda. The Sumerians (they invented writing, hospitals, schools, the wheel, the sail boat, irrigation and other things) worshipped Satan as the caring god that freed mankind from the slavery for which it was created.
Dagon wrote:I'm sure I'll get flamed for not going along with everyone here, but I don't think a person has to reject a creation because they disagree with the personal values of the creator. While I certainly do respect peoples' commitment to doing that, it has always seemed to be something that I was able to hold separate. I won't support businesses that are vocally homophobic or things like that, but if a writer or musician or whatever were to be 'exposed' as a bigot, in most cases I've always been able to ignore it so as to be able to engage their work.
I know that this is a really 'unpopular' way to be, not automatically rejecting things because they were made by someone who is socially or morally lacking. Maybe it's the English degrees, and I've just learned how to separate the writer from the work so that I don't HAVE to see their personal views in every thing, despite knowing that they are there.
tl;dr: "ZOMG you would read somethign by racist and not throw it away becasue racism is bad???????"
Yes, I would and I have. But if you choose not to, I respect that and can understand why you would do so.
Leonardo wrote:Take your lips off my pipe!
Dagon wrote:I'm sure I'll get flamed for not going along with everyone here, but I don't think a person has to reject a creation because they disagree with the personal values of the creator. While I certainly do respect peoples' commitment to doing that, it has always seemed to be something that I was able to hold separate. I won't support businesses that are vocally homophobic or things like that, but if a writer or musician or whatever were to be 'exposed' as a bigot, in most cases I've always been able to ignore it so as to be able to engage their work.
I know that this is a really 'unpopular' way to be, not automatically rejecting things because they were made by someone who is socially or morally lacking. Maybe it's the English degrees, and I've just learned how to separate the writer from the work so that I don't HAVE to see their personal views in every thing, despite knowing that they are there.
tl;dr: "ZOMG you would read somethign by racist and not throw it away becasue racism is bad???????"
Yes, I would and I have. But if you choose not to, I respect that and can understand why you would do so.
Blast Cannon wrote:I read the first page and got bored of all the posturing, can somebody give me a TL;DR summary of the following three?
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Shadowman wrote:Blast Cannon wrote:I read the first page and got bored of all the posturing, can somebody give me a TL;DR summary of the following three?
Sly, wrote a book, wants criticisms, even though by his own admission he doesn't care what we mortals think. Also, he has only the faintest idea of how he's going to handle publishing and distribution, planning to sell it as an e-book and "get it out there" and also is in this purely for the money. Also he's a massive douche and fails to realize how it's going to impact how people view his work.
Shadowman wrote:Blast Cannon wrote:I read the first page and got bored of all the posturing, can somebody give me a TL;DR summary of the following three?
Sly, wrote a book, wants criticisms, even though by his own admission he doesn't care what we mortals think. Also, he has only the faintest idea of how he's going to handle publishing and distribution, planning to sell it as an e-book and "get it out there" and also is in this purely for the money. Also he's a massive douche and fails to realize how it's going to impact how people view his work.
SlyTF1 wrote:I do have an idea, that doesn't mean I have to tell you about it.
Wigglez wrote:Just remember. The sword is an extension of your arm. Use it as if you're going to karate chop someone with your really long sharp ass hand.
Burn wrote:Have you considered asking the advice from others who have done this before?
There are at least two published authors on this website alone.
SlyTF1 wrote:Burn wrote:Have you considered asking the advice from others who have done this before?
There are at least two published authors on this website alone.
I've tried, but I can't find any.
SlyTF1 wrote:Burn wrote:Have you considered asking the advice from others who have done this before?
There are at least two published authors on this website alone.
I've tried, but I can't find any.
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