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Re: Wrote a book. Need criticisms.

Postby SlyTF1 » Sun May 31, 2015 12:26 am

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Burn wrote:Have you considered asking the advice from others who have done this before?

There are at least two published authors on this website alone.


I've tried, but I can't find any.


I believe Va'al may be able to help with editing as well. He's some fancy smancy University educated literature person thingy.


Already talked to him.
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Re: Wrote a book. Need criticisms.

Postby SlyTF1 » Sun May 31, 2015 12:41 am

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Me, Grimlock! wrote:SOMEONE DOTH SPOKETH MY NAME!!! I AWAKEN FROM MY SLUMBER!!!

Just kidding.

Okay, from the previous five pages, I gather, SyTF1, you've written either a collection of short stories you want people to read or a single short story that showcases the rest of the collection? Do I have that right? And this particular short story--which is...18,000 words, if I remember out of the whole five pages of this thread--is technically a novella or a novelette, depending on where you go for your answer.

So to address some of the stuff going on in this thread--and take this with a grain of salt cuz a lot of this is just one man's opinion, though I've got a fair amount of logic and experience going into this response:

SlyTF1, you want to be self-published. First of all, kudos, cuz it's hard. Really hard. Self-publishing is generally the trend nowadays, but the problem is that 99% of the world doesn't know how to string together a sentence to save their lives. It's all OMG ROLF Internet speak nowadays, which, hey, is great for me because it weeds out the competition. A lot of self-published authors are self-published because no agent or publisher will touch them, mostly because of the Internet speak. (Internet speak is to prose the same as valley girl speak is to conversation.)

That means if you want to set yourself above the rest, you need to know every single thing you can about the English language. Otherwise, you look like--guess what?--a self-published author, which still has a great big stigma attached to it because of the Internet speak. You want to showcase your talent. You have to use perfect English everywhere you go, Seibertron.com included, or else no one is going to want to read what you've got, even if the story itself is absolutely perfect. You're your own publicist, and even a single "their vs. there" mistake could cost you a reader, or a publisher (since publishers know how to Google you).

And learn your craft. Learn the three-act structure, what keeps a reader enticed, what suspense is, how to create a character, etc. This is the reason why, of that 1% who can string together a sentence, 99% of them fail: they don't know how to craft a story.

Writing for money? Meh. I hate to sound like a cliche, but it's not a great way to start. Sure, it's a start, but what happens when the boredom outweighs the money. Your writing flattens. My reasons are because I love to write and I love to create. I love what I do. Proof? I have a series in which I'm seventeen stories deep, called In a Galaxy Far, Far Awry (shameless plug, not out yet, coming soon, I'll post a link when it does if you want to see it, blah blah blah), and that series has, so far, enjoyed a readership of two and a net profit of zero. And I'm just now starting to publish that series. I'm not in it for the money. I'd love to make money off it, sure, but only to quit my job and write for a living. (Also to afford that European vacation, but sssshhhhh.) What's your reason? Money won't get you through the day. It's the same soulless garbage you'd pick up from a musician who's in it only for the money.

You don't have a hook. You need a hook. It's called a logline. Mine is "Spaceballs vs. X-Men." My short blurb is "Nothing is more dangerous than a halfwit who controls all of crime." Every movie or book has it, and train yourself on how to write one by checking the blurbs on the backs of books or listening (not viewing) to movie trailers. It's as easy as that. But if you have no hook, what sets your evil government story above every other evil government story, including V for Vendetta, The Lego Movie, Resident Evil, Soylent Green, District 9, Beast Machines (yes, boo, hiss, I know), and countless other movies (or books, or what-have-yous) with an evil government or corporation bent on world domination? Why should I plunk down ten bucks on your story when I'm already a fan of Resident Evil or Ready Player One? It's part of your marketing. Show me why I should spend money on yours specifically. I spent money on a marketer who can write an enticing back blurb. If you know a guy, great. If you can educate yourself, even better. But get that hook.

Speaking of marketing. Ahem. Yeah, self-publishers are their own marketers. You gotta learn to market. Have a plan. Budget for it. What do I do? Gotta admit my "Spaceballs vs. X-Men" series is my first foray into self-publishing so I'm kind of learning the ropes. I've got a few schemes, but they all involve hiring a publicist. So you have to have some spare money or really educate yourself on what you're doing. Facebook and Twitter are steps, but they're not the end. I'll get back to you when I've got this one figured out.

And finally, should I like the personality or beliefs of the author, actor, director, etc. whose stuff I'm entertaining myself with? Maybe or maybe not. I don't know. It's up to each person. My general way of thinking is I'll more than likely watch a movie where the star is someone I could see myself hanging out with. I think I'd get along with Samuel L. Jackson, Chris Evans, Jack Black and Kyle Gass, Seth Rogen, Simon Pegg, and a slew of others. Even Tom Cruise, for all his crazy assness, went up a couple of notches in my estimation when I found out he's saved some lives. Actual human lives. (I still watch the M:I movies for Ving Rhames, though.) So go figure. But I'm more likely to enjoy their wares. These people shouldn't have any consequence on if I enjoy a movie if that movie itself is good, but I'm a stupid human and this is one of my stupid human tricks. Oprah Winfrey hasn't done anything wrong per se, but I can't stand anything with her name on it because I find her preachy and artificial. So anything off the Oprah Network is an instant miss for me, even if she doesn't appear in something or wrote the articles in her magazine.

But here's the final word. Do I want to check over your stuff? Sure. Send it over to stevegershwin at hotmail dot com (my spam address). But never fall into the trap of thinking something is perfect. That's a bad place to be. And if you want me to post the feedback here, I'll be more than happy to.


Read it all, but don't feel like replying to it all. I write my best everywhere I go. That includes here, in the very rare text message I send, and even when I'm cursing people out on You Tube.

I know lots of **** about English. I was taking college level English for 3 of my 4 high school years. Even had multiple English classes when I was actually in college.

The only reason I want money is so I can make a living. If I were making any money any other way, I wouldn't mind writing for free, I really wouldn't. But since there isn't anything else on the planet I feel like doing right now, I might as well try writing for money.

And my story isn't an evil government story. It's more of a character study of one specific character. All the stories I'm writing are character studies of specific characters. Characters who just happen to be aliens. And considering I'm a few stories into writing my series already, the "evil government," subplot is resolved by the beginning of the third story.

And I guess I'll send it to you. I'll even send you the second, and what I have of the third story if you want, I don't give a damn. Any feedback, really, is appreciated.
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Re: Wrote a book. Need criticisms.

Postby Burn » Sun May 31, 2015 2:52 am

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wow ... someone who has experience doing what he's attempting to do ... and he just throws it back in his face.

You really are a piece of work SlyTF1.
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Re: Wrote a book. Need criticisms.

Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Sun May 31, 2015 2:58 am

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Burn wrote:wow ... someone who has experience doing what he's attempting to do ... and he just throws it back in his face.

You really are a piece of work SlyTF1.


I'm actually surprised that you're surprised. >:oP
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Re: Wrote a book. Need criticisms.

Postby Burn » Sun May 31, 2015 3:06 am

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Burn wrote:wow ... someone who has experience doing what he's attempting to do ... and he just throws it back in his face.

You really are a piece of work SlyTF1.


I'm actually surprised that you're surprised. >:oP


Wasn't really. I have no idea if SlyTF1 is really like this or it's just his internet persona ... at least you knew duragrip was just taking the piss. This guy? I sometimes think we should alert his local Police in case there's any unsolved murders near by.
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Re: Wrote a book. Need criticisms.

Postby Va'al » Sun May 31, 2015 3:14 am

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To be fair, I don't agree with all the points Me, Grimlock! makes about self-publishing, and style, and bits, but it's some good solid advice - and that is not the way to react to it, Sly.

I have read your story and we've discussed feedback, and you have a much different demeanour when talking via email than you have on here. You're actually bordering on being insulting towards other users, and a very short throw away from crossing a Seibertron.com rule.

Learn to communicate in a civil manner, or expect a board warning soon.
Everyone else, criticism is fine, and I understand the reactions so far, but let's keep personal insults to a minimum. Thanks.
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Re: Wrote a book. Need criticisms.

Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Sun May 31, 2015 3:15 am

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Burn wrote:wow ... someone who has experience doing what he's attempting to do ... and he just throws it back in his face.

You really are a piece of work SlyTF1.


I'm actually surprised that you're surprised. >:oP


Wasn't really. I have no idea if SlyTF1 is really like this or it's just his internet persona ... at least you knew duragrip was just taking the piss. This guy? I sometimes think we should alert his local Police in case there's any unsolved murders near by.


Well, if the murder weapon was a sword that bears an uncanny resemblance to AOE Optimus's, you know who to look for.

Seriously, I'm as befuddled as you are. It's probably some residual teen angst or some defense mechanism he still retains from his high school days. Most people have been through that phase before, except most everyone usually outgrows it at his age.
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Re: Wrote a book. Need criticisms.

Postby Shadowman » Sun May 31, 2015 4:24 am

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SlyTF1 wrote:I know lots of **** about English.


Anyone else want to talk about how amazingly ironic this sentence is?
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Re: Wrote a book. Need criticisms.

Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Sun May 31, 2015 5:45 am

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SlyTF1 wrote:I know lots of **** about English.


Anyone else want to talk about how amazingly ironic this sentence is?


This whole thread is an irony.
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Re: Wrote a book. Need criticisms.

Postby SlyTF1 » Sun May 31, 2015 9:05 am

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Burn wrote:wow ... someone who has experience doing what he's attempting to do ... and he just throws it back in his face.

You really are a piece of work SlyTF1.


The hell are you talking about? I accepted his offer. What did I say that suggested otherwise? I was just trying to have a simple conversation. I didn't throw anything back in anyone's face. If you think I came off as being rude or anything, that wasn't my intention.

Va'al wrote:To be fair, I don't agree with all the points Me, Grimlock! makes about self-publishing, and style, and bits, but it's some good solid advice - and that is not the way to react to it, Sly.

I have read your story and we've discussed feedback, and you have a much different demeanour when talking via email than you have on here. You're actually bordering on being insulting towards other users, and a very short throw away from crossing a Seibertron.com rule.

Learn to communicate in a civil manner, or expect a board warning soon.
Everyone else, criticism is fine, and I understand the reactions so far, but let's keep personal insults to a minimum. Thanks.


Like I said, I wasn't trying to be insulting or defensive or anything. I didn't know I even said anything out of the way. I don't know how you'd want me to react. But I was just simply explaining my position.
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Re: Wrote a book. Need criticisms.

Postby Shadowman » Sun May 31, 2015 9:54 am

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Me, Grimlock! wrote:Writing for money? Meh. I hate to sound like a cliche, but it's not a great way to start. Sure, it's a start, but what happens when the boredom outweighs the money. Your writing flattens. My reasons are because I love to write and I love to create. I love what I do. Proof? I have a series in which I'm seventeen stories deep, called In a Galaxy Far, Far Awry (shameless plug, not out yet, coming soon, I'll post a link when it does if you want to see it, blah blah blah), and that series has, so far, enjoyed a readership of two and a net profit of zero. And I'm just now starting to publish that series. I'm not in it for the money. I'd love to make money off it, sure, but only to quit my job and write for a living. (Also to afford that European vacation, but sssshhhhh.) What's your reason? Money won't get you through the day. It's the same soulless garbage you'd pick up from a musician who's in it only for the money.

The only reason I want money is so I can make a living. If I were making any money any other way, I wouldn't mind writing for free, I really wouldn't. But since there isn't anything else on the planet I feel like doing right now, I might as well try writing for money.


He never said anything about "writing for free." He's talking about writing for the love of it, not because you want to get paid, because if you're only in it for the money, you're not going to get anywhere. And then you told him you're only in it for the money.

Which means you either only skimmed this part of his post, or you threw it back in his face. Or, third option, you really couldn't comprehend the simply "Don't be in it for the money" message he was trying to convey. (IE, the reason people pirate Metallica out of principle)
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Re: Wrote a book. Need criticisms.

Postby SlyTF1 » Sun May 31, 2015 10:03 am

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Me, Grimlock! wrote:Writing for money? Meh. I hate to sound like a cliche, but it's not a great way to start. Sure, it's a start, but what happens when the boredom outweighs the money. Your writing flattens. My reasons are because I love to write and I love to create. I love what I do. Proof? I have a series in which I'm seventeen stories deep, called In a Galaxy Far, Far Awry (shameless plug, not out yet, coming soon, I'll post a link when it does if you want to see it, blah blah blah), and that series has, so far, enjoyed a readership of two and a net profit of zero. And I'm just now starting to publish that series. I'm not in it for the money. I'd love to make money off it, sure, but only to quit my job and write for a living. (Also to afford that European vacation, but sssshhhhh.) What's your reason? Money won't get you through the day. It's the same soulless garbage you'd pick up from a musician who's in it only for the money.

The only reason I want money is so I can make a living. If I were making any money any other way, I wouldn't mind writing for free, I really wouldn't. But since there isn't anything else on the planet I feel like doing right now, I might as well try writing for money.


He never said anything about "writing for free." He's talking about writing for the love of it, not because you want to get paid, because if you're only in it for the money, you're not going to get anywhere. And then you told him you're only in it for the money.

Which means you either only skimmed this part of his post, or you threw it back in his face. Or, third option, you really couldn't comprehend the simply "Don't be in it for the money" message he was trying to convey. (IE, the reason people pirate Metallica out of principle)


Writing "for the love of it," I assume would mean for free. And I'm not only in it for the money, nor did I say that I was. I'm not even expecting to make that much money, I just want to do something where I'm actually making some form of currency.
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Re: Wrote a book. Need criticisms.

Postby Shadowman » Sun May 31, 2015 10:43 am

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SlyTF1 wrote:Writing "for the love of it," I assume would mean for free.


You assume wrong. You know, for someone who claims to be above us "mortals" you really do fail to comprehend very simple concepts.
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Re: Wrote a book. Need criticisms.

Postby SlyTF1 » Sun May 31, 2015 11:15 am

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SlyTF1 wrote:Writing "for the love of it," I assume would mean for free.


You assume wrong. You know, for someone who claims to be above us "mortals" you really do fail to comprehend very simple concepts.


Every other time I've heard someone say they do something "for the love of it," they generally mean for free.
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Re: Wrote a book. Need criticisms.

Postby Shadowman » Sun May 31, 2015 11:33 am

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SlyTF1 wrote:Writing "for the love of it," I assume would mean for free.


You assume wrong. You know, for someone who claims to be above us "mortals" you really do fail to comprehend very simple concepts.


Every other time I've heard someone say they do something "for the love of it," they generally mean for free.


Okay, I need to spell this out because you clearly do not understand it:

Just because you're writing just for the sake of writing, doesn't mean you can't also make money off of it. It's just, when you put "getting paid" ahead of everything else, all you produce is, as Me Grimlock stated, "soulless garbage." And if all you produce is soulless garbage, no one is going to want to buy your writing and the whole plan collapses on itself.

Are you getting this? Or do you want me to use smaller words?
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Re: Wrote a book. Need criticisms.

Postby Me, Grimlock! » Sun May 31, 2015 6:57 pm

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Yeah, I figured I had some of the self-publishing bit wrong. Like I said, I'm just starting out on that route, so a lot of what I think is from limited experience. But from what I hear, there's still that stigma that, if it's self-published, it's probably (and not always, so I hate to use the "always" blanket statement) amateurish and unfit. There are always exceptions. That's what, I'm saying, SlyTF1, be the exception.

And the other comments might be opinion or based on personal experience, but...meh...I have logic behind what I think. Might not be a universal experience, but it's what I've come across.

SlyTF1 wrote:The only reason I want money is so I can make a living. If I were making any money any other way, I wouldn't mind writing for free, I really wouldn't. But since there isn't anything else on the planet I feel like doing right now, I might as well try writing for money.


That's respectable. Everyone should love what they do, but if they can turn that into a job, that helps them stay away from a soul-sucking office 9-to-5er. I'm trying to do that too, but the odds of making a decent, family-raising wage from writing are almost nil. Still, the dream is there, am I right...? But don't lose sight that the dedication to the art should come before the dedication to the money.

Shadowman wrote:Just because you're writing just for the sake of writing, doesn't mean you can't also make money off of it. It's just, when you put "getting paid" ahead of everything else, all you produce is, as Me Grimlock stated, "soulless garbage." And if all you produce is soulless garbage, no one is going to want to buy your writing and the whole plan collapses on itself.


Essentially this, yeah. Like Shadowman said. I imagine the guy who's not in it for the art but instead for the money (for lack of a better term, the "money grubber" or the "$ellout") would put all his or her effort into the project at first: the first book, the first album, the first movie, whatever. But then, as things get old, the money grubber learns to cut corners and risks shortcuts that take away from the art. They get used to how things work. Eventually, given enough corners cut and shortcuts taken, there's enough of a departure from what made the art good in the first place that the audience begins to notice. Given enough of a departure, the art begins to suffer. Look at Metallica as an example: their die-hard fans cite the "old stuff" as good and the "new stuff" as crap. (I think the old stuff is The Black Album and earlier. Not sure. I was never a big Metallica fan.) Anyway, somewhere along the road, they cut enough corners that the fans noticed and now can't stand them anymore. Ulrich and co. lost something in the love of the art. This is what I imagine happens with the money grubber.

SlyTF1 wrote:Like I said, I wasn't trying to be insulting or defensive or anything. I didn't know I even said anything out of the way. I don't know how you'd want me to react. But I was just simply explaining my position.


For the record, I didn't take the "mortal" thing in your first post seriously. I took more in the same vein as Jack Black and Kyle Gass call Tenacious D the greatest band in the world: they're just having fun with a joke out of a conceit that really isn't there.
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Re: Wrote a book. Need criticisms.

Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Sun May 31, 2015 7:17 pm

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Me, Grimlock! wrote:For the record, I didn't take the "mortal" thing in your first post seriously. I took more in the same vein as Jack Black and Kyle Gass call Tenacious D the greatest band in the world: they're just having fun with a joke out of a conceit that really isn't there.


Nope, he meant it very seriously. >:oP

SlyTF1 wrote:Well, what do you want me to do? Lie? I don't lie, and I don't do facades.


SlyTF1 wrote:And this, more or less, is how I am in real life. The only difference being, is that people in real life actually like me, because I'm an "*******."


SlyTF1 wrote:I'm not trying to convince anyone. I couldn't give a **** what you believe. But I know who and what I am, and if you don't believe me, that's your fault, not mine.
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Re: Wrote a book. Need criticisms.

Postby SlyTF1 » Sun May 31, 2015 8:47 pm

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Me, Grimlock! wrote:For the record, I didn't take the "mortal" thing in your first post seriously. I took more in the same vein as Jack Black and Kyle Gass call Tenacious D the greatest band in the world: they're just having fun with a joke out of a conceit that really isn't there.


Nope, he meant it very seriously. >:oP

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SlyTF1 wrote:And this, more or less, is how I am in real life. The only difference being, is that people in real life actually like me, because I'm an "*******."


SlyTF1 wrote:I'm not trying to convince anyone. I couldn't give a **** what you believe. But I know who and what I am, and if you don't believe me, that's your fault, not mine.


To just about every joke, therein lies a hint of truth. Some jokes encompass more truth than others, though. Just saying.
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Re: Wrote a book. Need criticisms.

Postby Me, Grimlock! » Sun May 31, 2015 9:05 pm

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SlyTF1 wrote:To just about every joke, therein lies a hint of truth. Some jokes encompass more truth than others, though. Just saying.


Okie dokie then. Guess I was wrong.
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Re: Wrote a book. Need criticisms.

Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Sun May 31, 2015 9:12 pm

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SlyTF1 wrote:
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:
Me, Grimlock! wrote:For the record, I didn't take the "mortal" thing in your first post seriously. I took more in the same vein as Jack Black and Kyle Gass call Tenacious D the greatest band in the world: they're just having fun with a joke out of a conceit that really isn't there.


Nope, he meant it very seriously. >:oP

SlyTF1 wrote:Well, what do you want me to do? Lie? I don't lie, and I don't do facades.


SlyTF1 wrote:And this, more or less, is how I am in real life. The only difference being, is that people in real life actually like me, because I'm an "*******."


SlyTF1 wrote:I'm not trying to convince anyone. I couldn't give a **** what you believe. But I know who and what I am, and if you don't believe me, that's your fault, not mine.


To just about every joke, therein lies a hint of truth. Some jokes encompass more truth than others, though. Just saying.


Which I'm guessing is Sly's typical roundabout way of saying, "SKYWARPED_128 is essentially right, except I exaggerated more than I should have for comedic effect, and now Burn thinks I'm delusional." ;)

And Sly, you still haven't answered why you chose to ask for critiques in a TF forum, instead of an actual writer's forum where you can get proper professional feedback for your stories. People there are all writers like you, and actually know the technical side of story telling and prose, and can be of more help (no offense to those who critiqued his story).
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Re: Wrote a book. Need criticisms.

Postby SlyTF1 » Sun May 31, 2015 9:23 pm

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SKYWARPED_128 wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:
Me, Grimlock! wrote:For the record, I didn't take the "mortal" thing in your first post seriously. I took more in the same vein as Jack Black and Kyle Gass call Tenacious D the greatest band in the world: they're just having fun with a joke out of a conceit that really isn't there.


Nope, he meant it very seriously. >:oP

SlyTF1 wrote:Well, what do you want me to do? Lie? I don't lie, and I don't do facades.


SlyTF1 wrote:And this, more or less, is how I am in real life. The only difference being, is that people in real life actually like me, because I'm an "*******."


SlyTF1 wrote:I'm not trying to convince anyone. I couldn't give a **** what you believe. But I know who and what I am, and if you don't believe me, that's your fault, not mine.


To just about every joke, therein lies a hint of truth. Some jokes encompass more truth than others, though. Just saying.


Which I'm guessing is Sly's typical roundabout way of saying, "SKYWARPED_128 is essentially right, except I exaggerated more than I should have for comedic effect, and now Burn thinks I'm delusional." ;)

And Sly, you still haven't answered why you chose to ask for critiques in a TF forum, instead of an actual writer's forum where you can get proper professional feedback for your stories. People there are all writers like you, and actually know the technical side of story telling and prose, and can be of more help (no offense to those who critiqued his story).


Because I couldn't find any of those websites. If I can't find something in less than 5 minutes, I get bored and conclude it isn't worth my time. I found one site, which has been seemingly dead for ages. I posted my story on it anyway.
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Re: Wrote a book. Need criticisms.

Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Sun May 31, 2015 9:31 pm

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SlyTF1 wrote:
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:
Me, Grimlock! wrote:For the record, I didn't take the "mortal" thing in your first post seriously. I took more in the same vein as Jack Black and Kyle Gass call Tenacious D the greatest band in the world: they're just having fun with a joke out of a conceit that really isn't there.


Nope, he meant it very seriously. >:oP

SlyTF1 wrote:Well, what do you want me to do? Lie? I don't lie, and I don't do facades.


SlyTF1 wrote:And this, more or less, is how I am in real life. The only difference being, is that people in real life actually like me, because I'm an "*******."


SlyTF1 wrote:I'm not trying to convince anyone. I couldn't give a **** what you believe. But I know who and what I am, and if you don't believe me, that's your fault, not mine.


To just about every joke, therein lies a hint of truth. Some jokes encompass more truth than others, though. Just saying.


Which I'm guessing is Sly's typical roundabout way of saying, "SKYWARPED_128 is essentially right, except I exaggerated more than I should have for comedic effect, and now Burn thinks I'm delusional." ;)

And Sly, you still haven't answered why you chose to ask for critiques in a TF forum, instead of an actual writer's forum where you can get proper professional feedback for your stories. People there are all writers like you, and actually know the technical side of story telling and prose, and can be of more help (no offense to those who critiqued his story).


Because I couldn't find any of those websites. If I can't find something in less than 5 minutes, I get bored and conclude it isn't worth my time. I found one site, which has been seemingly dead for ages. I posted my story on it anyway.


Holy sh!t, I think even Google hates you. I just Googled "writing forums", and (GASP!) guess what I found:

http://www.writingforums.com/

http://www.writingforums.org/

http://www.writersdigest.com/forum/

All of them are active. Try them out.
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Re: Wrote a book. Need criticisms.

Postby SlyTF1 » Sun May 31, 2015 9:45 pm

Motto: "If my first sacrifice wasn't enough, maybe you would prefer to pay with your funky blood."
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SKYWARPED_128 wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:
Me, Grimlock! wrote:For the record, I didn't take the "mortal" thing in your first post seriously. I took more in the same vein as Jack Black and Kyle Gass call Tenacious D the greatest band in the world: they're just having fun with a joke out of a conceit that really isn't there.


Nope, he meant it very seriously. >:oP

SlyTF1 wrote:Well, what do you want me to do? Lie? I don't lie, and I don't do facades.


SlyTF1 wrote:And this, more or less, is how I am in real life. The only difference being, is that people in real life actually like me, because I'm an "*******."


SlyTF1 wrote:I'm not trying to convince anyone. I couldn't give a **** what you believe. But I know who and what I am, and if you don't believe me, that's your fault, not mine.


To just about every joke, therein lies a hint of truth. Some jokes encompass more truth than others, though. Just saying.


Which I'm guessing is Sly's typical roundabout way of saying, "SKYWARPED_128 is essentially right, except I exaggerated more than I should have for comedic effect, and now Burn thinks I'm delusional." ;)

And Sly, you still haven't answered why you chose to ask for critiques in a TF forum, instead of an actual writer's forum where you can get proper professional feedback for your stories. People there are all writers like you, and actually know the technical side of story telling and prose, and can be of more help (no offense to those who critiqued his story).


Because I couldn't find any of those websites. If I can't find something in less than 5 minutes, I get bored and conclude it isn't worth my time. I found one site, which has been seemingly dead for ages. I posted my story on it anyway.


Holy sh!t, I think even Google hates you. I just Googled "writing forums", and (GASP!) guess what I found:

http://www.writingforums.com/

http://www.writingforums.org/

http://www.writersdigest.com/forum/

All of them are active. Try them out.


Wow. Even Google's involved in the ploy to try to steal my planet from me.
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Re: Wrote a book. Need criticisms.

Postby Burn » Sun May 31, 2015 9:49 pm

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SlyTF1 wrote:
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:
Me, Grimlock! wrote:For the record, I didn't take the "mortal" thing in your first post seriously. I took more in the same vein as Jack Black and Kyle Gass call Tenacious D the greatest band in the world: they're just having fun with a joke out of a conceit that really isn't there.


Nope, he meant it very seriously. >:oP

SlyTF1 wrote:Well, what do you want me to do? Lie? I don't lie, and I don't do facades.


SlyTF1 wrote:And this, more or less, is how I am in real life. The only difference being, is that people in real life actually like me, because I'm an "*******."


SlyTF1 wrote:I'm not trying to convince anyone. I couldn't give a **** what you believe. But I know who and what I am, and if you don't believe me, that's your fault, not mine.


To just about every joke, therein lies a hint of truth. Some jokes encompass more truth than others, though. Just saying.


Which I'm guessing is Sly's typical roundabout way of saying, "SKYWARPED_128 is essentially right, except I exaggerated more than I should have for comedic effect, and now Burn thinks I'm delusional." ;)

And Sly, you still haven't answered why you chose to ask for critiques in a TF forum, instead of an actual writer's forum where you can get proper professional feedback for your stories. People there are all writers like you, and actually know the technical side of story telling and prose, and can be of more help (no offense to those who critiqued his story).


Because I couldn't find any of those websites. If I can't find something in less than 5 minutes, I get bored and conclude it isn't worth my time. I found one site, which has been seemingly dead for ages. I posted my story on it anyway.


Holy sh!t, I think even Google hates you. I just Googled "writing forums", and (GASP!) guess what I found:

http://www.writingforums.com/

http://www.writingforums.org/

http://www.writersdigest.com/forum/

All of them are active. Try them out.


Wow. Even Google's involved in the ploy to try to steal my planet from me.


:shock:
...
:shock:
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Just...
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Re: Wrote a book. Need criticisms.

Postby SKYWARPED_128 » Sun May 31, 2015 9:54 pm

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Burn wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:
Me, Grimlock! wrote:For the record, I didn't take the "mortal" thing in your first post seriously. I took more in the same vein as Jack Black and Kyle Gass call Tenacious D the greatest band in the world: they're just having fun with a joke out of a conceit that really isn't there.


Nope, he meant it very seriously. >:oP

SlyTF1 wrote:Well, what do you want me to do? Lie? I don't lie, and I don't do facades.


SlyTF1 wrote:And this, more or less, is how I am in real life. The only difference being, is that people in real life actually like me, because I'm an "*******."


SlyTF1 wrote:I'm not trying to convince anyone. I couldn't give a **** what you believe. But I know who and what I am, and if you don't believe me, that's your fault, not mine.


To just about every joke, therein lies a hint of truth. Some jokes encompass more truth than others, though. Just saying.


Which I'm guessing is Sly's typical roundabout way of saying, "SKYWARPED_128 is essentially right, except I exaggerated more than I should have for comedic effect, and now Burn thinks I'm delusional." ;)

And Sly, you still haven't answered why you chose to ask for critiques in a TF forum, instead of an actual writer's forum where you can get proper professional feedback for your stories. People there are all writers like you, and actually know the technical side of story telling and prose, and can be of more help (no offense to those who critiqued his story).


Because I couldn't find any of those websites. If I can't find something in less than 5 minutes, I get bored and conclude it isn't worth my time. I found one site, which has been seemingly dead for ages. I posted my story on it anyway.


Holy sh!t, I think even Google hates you. I just Googled "writing forums", and (GASP!) guess what I found:

http://www.writingforums.com/

http://www.writingforums.org/

http://www.writersdigest.com/forum/

All of them are active. Try them out.


Wow. Even Google's involved in the ploy to try to steal my planet from me.


:shock:
...
:shock:
...
Just...
:shock: :-? :lol: :lol: :lol:


Stop it, Sly. You're gonna give Burn a brain aneurysm one of these days. >:oP
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