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Chaoslock wrote:There's no major problem with Vista, since I got it, it is running smoothly, that I couldn't say about the time I had XP.

Try to install an Audigy series Soundblaster card.

Yeah Gates really borked us when he went away from direct sound.

neliz wrote:There's no sane reason for people to run Vista, yes, even DX10 is not a reason. But Vista is yesteryears windowsME.

Though most Vista crashes can be related to driver issues from the hardware suppliers I think it's fair to say that with claims of Vista's greatness, those shouldn't have happened in the first place.

Because if I want a computer that obsoletes all my hardware and software with every new version, I'd buy a mac.

You sir are spouting rubbish. Absolute rubbish.

And dont try and use me as an example, becuase Im not, my problems are hardware related, or bios related.

Anyway, yeah, UPDATE!

New terabyte harddrive, more ram (cause i wanted it) and...

The old hardrive was clearly borked, but it was also clearly not the only problem. Right now, If I dont start up with the Vista CD in the drive, i get a message saying:

Boot Disk Missing, please enter disk and press enter

or words to that effect.

Fdisk /mbr is what you need

(yeah, I'm an MCP on XP and Vista, I'm a certified Rubbish engineer.

neliz wrote:There's no sane reason for people to run Vista, yes, even DX10 is not a reason. But Vista is yesteryears windowsME.

Oh hell no!

I spent 6 months using ME and it was the most painful computing experience of my life. Constant crashes, constantly having to restart, and that was on a daily basis.

Though most Vista crashes can be related to driver issues from the hardware suppliers I think it's fair to say that with claims of Vista's greatness, those shouldn't have happened in the first place.

Just like those who have criticised Vista should have gotten computer equipment capable of running it.

Because if I want a computer that obsoletes all my hardware and software with every new version, I'd buy a mac.

Yeah well ... Microsoft. Won't argue that.

Burn wrote:Just like those who have criticised Vista should have gotten computer equipment capable of running it.

Like a new computer?

Doesn't every new peice of software or hardware obsolete the thing it's replacing?

Like Records>8 Track<Cassettes<CDs<DVD<HD DVD<BluRay

Or 5 3/4 floppy<3 1/2 floppy<CD<CD RW<DVD

neliz wrote:Fdisk /mbr is what you need

Explain in more detail please.

Absolute Zero wrote:Or 5 3/4 floppy<3 1/2 floppy<CD<CD RW<DVD

You forgot to add thumb drives and micro disks. I've got a microdisk in my MP3 player that holds more memory than any commercially available DVD-RW.

Fearless Echoes wrote:

neliz wrote:Fdisk /mbr is what you need

Explain in more detail please.

Ok, I'm sorry but I have been working with/on computers since 1980. I have seen anything and everything that can happen with a computer for the most part.

With the information provided in this post there is no possible way you could know if the Boot record is corrupt or not, or know if you need to use fixmbr or fixboot. There is

FE if I were you I would go download the proper HDD test software for your HDD and see if there is actually an issue with the Hard Drive. You can get this from your manufacturers website. Also a program called memtest86 to test your memory. Some of these require them to be booted to off a floppy so hopefully you'll have that option. Should both of those test ok, this will usually (rarely they are wrong) indicate either a different hardware error or a driver error.

I would pull or disconnect everything out of the computer and only have Powersupply, Mobo, CPU, Memory, HDD hooked up. Try to boot it that way and see if any errors come up. If it starts working fine then I would reconnect everything one at a time until the error happens again. Sometimes you might get everything hooked back up and just reseating everything will fix it.

If you have more than one stick of memory, pull them one at a time (with system off and yourself grounded to the case) and see if that solves any issues. If you pull a stick and it fixes it try reseating it, it could fix it. It could also indicate a bad stick of RAM.

If none of that works try reseating the CPU if you know how to do that. Should all else fail, make sure all your drivers are updated to current for ALL of your hardware.

I wouldn't go messing with windows until you can rule out any hardware issues. If you could post your error that would help me immensely in helping you determine a course of action.

There is no way of knowing you need to mess with a windows fix if you haven't ruled out any hardware issues first, unless your error specifically points towards a certain windows issue.

Both of those files can be found with a quick googling.

You can also try a quick system file check ....

1. While windows is booted insert OS CD. Close the OS splash screen.

2. In XP click start>run and type CMD, in vista just click Start and type CMD and hit enter.

3. At the command prompt type: SFC /SCANNOW

Your system will scan the windows files to ensure that they aren't corrupted and in the condition they should be in. Also, you can do a CHKDSK that will check your HDD for bad sectors and find and try to repair corrupted partitions and files and other windows files and directory structure. If you need more info on CHKDSK let me know

Archanubis wrote:

Absolute Zero wrote:Or 5 3/4 floppy<3 1/2 floppy<CD<CD RW<DVD

You forgot to add thumb drives and micro disks. I've got a microdisk in my MP3 player that holds more memory than any commercially available DVD-RW.

I got a jumpdrive/mp3 player that holds more music then a CD could, but those haven't quite replaced CDs and DVDs yet, even though they're superior.

when I talk about obsoleting apple's there's the issue of the previous generation of macs being powerpc based (same processor running the wii and xbox360) and the new macs running on x86 processors. that means if your software runs on an old mac (say, a $1000 photoshop suite.) you can't run it on your new mac since it's a completely different architecture.

the problem that everyone seems to have with windows is that it still needs to maintain compatibility with older versions.. and yes, this includes DOS.

neliz wrote:when I talk about obsoleting apple's there's the issue of the previous generation of macs being powerpc based (same processor running the wii and xbox360) and the new macs running on x86 processors. that means if your software runs on an old mac (say, a $1000 photoshop suite.) you can't run it on your new mac since it's a completely different architecture.

the problem that everyone seems to have with windows is that it still needs to maintain compatibility with older versions.. and yes, this includes DOS.

That doesn't make sense. At worst, you should have to download a patch to fix the core files.

Ok, I just got a brand new laptop for christmas running Vista Home 64 bit with service pack 1.

I have yet to have it crash, blue screen or otherwise. It hibernates and sleeps just fine and does EVERYTHING it's supposed to do.

Granted I have 4 gigs of RAM and a dual core processor to take advantage of it all, but considering the laptop runs Vista 64 and Mass Effect cranked on all settings without crashing and running smooth, I think Vista is a fine operating system. You just have to have a beefy pc to run it.

Hell I thought XP was a terrible idea at first until I had a machine that could run it smooth and a clean install.

Sure, before service pack 1 Vista was iffy, and if you're running with less than 2 gigs of RAM then heaven help you, but it's not that bad of an O/S. My one and single complaint with it is that it won't run some of my older games and that has more to do wiht the 64 bit version than anything else.

Absolute Zero wrote:That doesn't make sense. At worst, you should have to download a patch to fix the core files.

how will you "patch a core file" when you can't even install the (x86) os on a PPC machine?