2024 Transformers Studio Series Commander Release will be 86 Optimus Prime

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:Well according to JTPrime, the listing for next year's Studio Series Commander Class figure has updated to actually name the character, and it's.....the most boring default option it could possibly be.

Tra Gen Studio Series Commander 86 Optimus Prime
Product Code: F8514
EAN: 5010996211835

How is it "boring" for the next SS86 Commander?

ER Leader Optimus was a great figure, but the leader price point did his trailer dirty. Furthermore, the ER mold had that butt kibble going on that ruined the overall silhouette. If we can have a mini MP that is on par with what 3P is offering at the commander price, I'll be all over it.

Also, who else could be a Commander in SS86? Ultra Magnus was the previous one and Rodimus Prime was made in Kingdom. And unless he's Core scale, a Devastator at the Commander price point would be impossible.

It's boring because it's yet another G1 character we've had multiple attempts at in the past 5 or so years getting a redo in SS86 as opposed to anything more unique, and it's the second year in a row it's happened in Commander Class (and the only thing they've done with Commander Class for SS since it's inception, no less). Sabrblade's absolutely right about the reasoning behind it, and I understand it, but there's nothing they can do that will make me excited about it.

Also a number of the things I've heard the community suggest as things they could do with a Commander G1 Optimus to make it better than the ER Leader (a better trailer and no visible wheels in bot mode, for example) are things that I'm either indifferent towards (the trailer) or are actively downgrades in my eyes (hidden wheels), which just makes me further unexcited since based on Magnus, those are exactly the kinds of "upgrades" they're going to prioritize.

Emerje wrote:I still think Commander Class OP should have been a special commemorative release that doesn't take up a SS or main line release and maybe not even hit the exact price point. Use the SS Commander price point for a Bayverse character, it doesn't have to be SS86, it's all the same line.

Emerje

This, exactly.

Well we've seen this a mile away, so no real surprise. Even if Hasbro pulled another fast one and gave us the ER voyager with a new and improved trailer it would sell, though not as well. That ER voyager Prime will be hard to beat.

Personally I was hoping they would take SS86 Magnus and rework him into a Powermaster Prime. Or even if they took the Prime that came with the Tenseng base and gave him a trailer to combine with and sold him as a commander I would be happy with.

But we're getting yet another Prime with a trailer and (possibly) an interactive Roller. I hope the SS86 Commander for 2025 will be a brand new Astrotrain. Leader size was too small for him, and his engineering and design suffered.

its about time
i had a feeling this would happen ever since getting 86 UM

Can't say this news is too surprising given the anniversary year and all.

At least we know it won't be from the UM mold

Better be color changing so it can go from alive to dead. The new vehicle mode size will be a plus to me but not really wanting or needing another trailer even if they make it as snazzy as the last mp primes.

Not surprising at all. I'm actually sort of glad for this, since Earthrise Prime seemed weirdly iffy. But I hope this is it for G1 Prime for the foreseeable future. I mean, if he turns out as good as Rodimus or Ultra Magnus, then it's not as if there'll be any way to top this in any meaningful way anyway.

Another G1 Prime, huh? I'm on the fence, even though I'm really dumb with my money. On the one hand I already have both Siege AND ER Prime, so I have my G1 Prime. And yet, I'm curious.

I can't even be annoyed because it's Prime. But I can't be too excited either. Sure ER left room for improvement (especially if you didn't nab that upgrade kit), but it's also pretty good all on it's own and even got a reissue. AND Siege was very G1 all on it's own.

Called that a while back.
But now having, Armada Prime, and Ultra Magnus, not sure how a hollow box is going to use up commander class budget. Its going to have to have a ton of accessories to get there.

But Alas, its a G1 Prime, so I’ll need to muster up $90 bucks for him. Hopefully he comes out a few months removed from MP Rhinox, Would be a terrible hit to the wallet if they come out at about the same time.

Also, since this is SS86, how close to MP Prime is he expected to look?

Disappointing but not surprising. After WFC put out a trio of G1 Commanders (and Legacy made one), Commander class finally comes to Studio Series! What exciting new characters will they do now that they have the character rosters of numerous movies?

It’s just more G1 commanders, and redos of characters that got definitive leaders just a few years ago.

Nemesis Primal wrote:It's boring because it's yet another G1 character we've had multiple attempts at in the past 5 or so years...

No, what's truly boring is getting umpteen copies of that stupid old camaro "Bumblebee" in SS, not to mention the number of Bayverse Optimus figures we've gotten. G1 Optimus is a movie character that hasn't gotten a figure in the SS line yet, but definitely deserves one, so this move makes sense.

I'm down for this. Not surprised in the least since it's Optimus - aka an inevitability for every last size, price, line, subline, subline sub-imprint, package refresh, licensed product line, and so on. Also seemed like a given once Motormaster and Ultra Magnus had a somewhat consistent truck and trailer alt mode size. Now OP can be that size in vehicle mode too.

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:Disappointing but not surprising. After WFC put out a trio of G1 Commanders (and Legacy made one), Commander class finally comes to Studio Series! What exciting new characters will they do now that they have the character rosters of numerous movies?

It’s just more G1 commanders, and redos of characters that got definitive leaders just a few years ago.

ER Optimus and Kd Ultra Magnus were far, FAR from being "definitive".

Have solace in the fact that once SS86 is finally done, we may finally see the very first Bay Commander. But what would that be? Appart the TLK demonic combiner or maybe Dragonstorm, I have no idea.

KD OP isn't perfect but I don't think he's THAT far from being definitive.

Hopefully this'll be the final word on G1 Prime as a mainline release. He needs to take a bow. Seeing the old flatnose cab was refreshing at first, but WOW has it been overplayed.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:Disappointing but not surprising. After WFC put out a trio of G1 Commanders (and Legacy made one), Commander class finally comes to Studio Series! What exciting new characters will they do now that they have the character rosters of numerous movies?

It’s just more G1 commanders, and redos of characters that got definitive leaders just a few years ago.

ER Optimus and Kd Ultra Magnus were far, FAR from being "definitive".

Have solace in the fact that once SS86 is finally done, we may finally see the very first Bay Commander. But what would that be? Appart the TLK demonic combiner or maybe Dragonstorm, I have no idea.

DoM Shockwave with Driller.or just a larger more detailed Prime and trailer / weapons ring.

Overcracker wrote:
DoM Shockwave with Driller.or just a larger more detailed Prime and trailer / weapons ring.

I don't think DOTM Optimus would be Commander material. Not only did the trailer was pretty complete, they even squeezed in the jetwings too for the previous Leader.

As for DOTM Shockwave's Driller, I could see that happening but only at the Core Class scale. The set would include a Core Class DOTM Shockwave too. The Driller would be non-transformable (a sin) but would have plenty of articulation points and moving parts. And to compensate that the Driller itself wouldn't transform, why not include in a Core Class DOTM Optimus with his trailer that convert into the weapons ring? That would be freaking awesome and we could recreate the movie scene.

Complaints about too many G1 Optimus toys. What year is it, 1994 through 2023 inclusive?!

-Kanrabat- wrote:

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:Disappointing but not surprising. After WFC put out a trio of G1 Commanders (and Legacy made one), Commander class finally comes to Studio Series! What exciting new characters will they do now that they have the character rosters of numerous movies?

It’s just more G1 commanders, and redos of characters that got definitive leaders just a few years ago.

ER Optimus and Kd Ultra Magnus were far, FAR from being "definitive".

Have solace in the fact that once SS86 is finally done, we may finally see the very first Bay Commander. But what would that be? Appart the TLK demonic combiner or maybe Dragonstorm, I have no idea.

ROTB Stratosphere could be a candidate, but Rise of the Beasts didn't do very well as a movie, not sure about the toylines. And Concept Stratosphere feels too risky.

I had been wondering about this release; a while back I started thinking this may have been false rumor.

It is a completely understandable move, anniversary year or not.
This figure is going to sell and sell well simply based on the character.
Sure the alt mode was probably a factor, but it was no surprise (at least to me) when this guy was made into that semi-recent Lego set-- in the realm of toys (and relatively speaking, in the realm of 80's culture and nostalgia), he's an icon.
I believe this is one even casual fans and non-collectors will buy. $90+ is much easier to throw-down when you're not also dropping hundreds on other figures throughout the year.

Since I'll never have MP-44 (I can't justify $400+ for a toy), I'm really excited about the confirmation of this figure. Prime isn't even in my top 10 favorite TF characters, but assuming this version is on point, there's no way I'll pass on this. It's an instant preorder.

For me it's a boring choice because I'm not one looking to rebuy the same characters over and over every couple of years. Now an update to an older figure from 5-10 years ago to modern standards, sure, I can see that appeal. And it's to the point where it just gets old to constantly see minor improvements each over a figure from 2-3 years ago, or be put into a higher class to justify charging even more. Meanwhile no proper Hound, Powerglide, Soundwave just to name a few. And that's not counting a much needed reissue of VW Bumblebee, Sunstreaker, Prowl, Thrust etc.

Heck I'd rather get a Commander Astrotrain then maybe they could get his looks/aesthetics and functionality done right for a triple changer!

Look, I get that prime it the all time go to for getting people to buy him time after time when they've already bought him last year, the year before and the year before that. But I would rather those resources went into something new, if not that at least not the same characters over and over.

I'm looking forward to seeing SS86 Optimus Prime after seeing what they did with Kingdom Rodimus. Optimus will definitely be bigger than the Earthrise release so I think it'll fit in well. I agree with the other voices that this should be the last G1 Prime for a long time, something I hope Hasbro would come out and say.

By the by, I haven't gotten an update to this thread in over a month if not longer, has this happened to anyone else?

Prime better be worth holding off on making DOTM Devcon or ROTB Stratosphere.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I'm looking forward to seeing SS86 Optimus Prime after seeing what they did with Kingdom Rodimus. Optimus will definitely be bigger than the Earthrise release so I think it'll fit in well. I agree with the other voices that this should be the last G1 Prime for a long time, something I hope Hasbro would come out and say.

G1 Optimus Prime is one of the most recognizable toy characters in history. They are never going to be done making his toys. If they said they were done, all that would get them is the inevitable fury when they make another one.

The Optimuses will continue until morale improves.

The SS86 release might be related to this one coming out in the spring. Would definately be different than an Earthrise re-run.

https://hasbropulse.com/collections/tra ... th-trailer

muswp1 wrote:The SS86 release might be related to this one coming out in the spring.

It isn't. That's Missing Link, not Studio Series. Different line and unrelated to this. It's a TakaraTomy initiative that Hasbro has no hand in.

Sabrblade wrote:

muswp1 wrote:The SS86 release might be related to this one coming out in the spring.

It isn't. That's Missing Link, not Legacy. Different line and unrelated to this. It's a TakaraTomy initiative that Hasbro has no hand in.

Or do they? Dun, dun, DUUUUUNNNN!!!!!

I'm looking forward to seeing what they do with him. Perhaps they'll also do another 'dead' version....

Don't know why people are surprised we're getting another Optimus at this point.

Didn't Hasbro say a while back that their gameplan going forward was to have an Optimus figure on the shelves every year for their main lines, because he's one of the most recognisable characters in the franchise?

Not saying "Don't be mad" at another Prime, we're fed up of seeing Shelf-warmer Bees here too

DeathReviews wrote:I'm looking forward to seeing what they do with him. Perhaps they'll also do another 'dead' version....

They're saving that for the Target exclusive

I'm not surprised at all. Or upset. Just bored. Yet another G1 Prime. I get why they're doing it, I just find it a bit boring.

Hopefully, like Magnus, I can get more into it when the time comes. ER brought a lot to the table, but seemed to almost deliberately miss being perfect.

AcademyofDrX wrote:Complaints about too many G1 Optimus toys. What year is it, 1994 through 2023 inclusive?!

Indeed. Really nothing to be upset or surprised over. Hopefully he comes with some effects parts...






and the articulation to hunch down into his uppercut pose.

I don’t think this release will involve any damaged parts, even removable, unless Hastak goes with a relatively empty triailer. Or at least one with limited parts & engineering on the interior. Although putting a small peg or two on his lower left torso as an option for previously owned blast effects wouldn’t shock me either.
What will be interesting is how much is in the trailer, since that interior was never part of the movie.
I’m betting we can safely assume that will be determined/prioritized after the bot is handled/designed.

It won’t bother me either way, but my gut tells me this bot is going to be substantially larger than the previous voyager versions.
I know it may cause a handful of characters such as Blaster, Inferno, Grapple, Trailbreaker, & Hoist to appear a bit small; but that would put him more in scale with a lot more figures from the minibots to characters like Sideswipe & Ironhide, to the Dinobots & Ultra Magnus.
I always thought the voyager was a bit on the small side.

One reason I really hope this happens is because it may be another nudge for Hastak to make a new, vastly improved G1 (bot mode) Megatron.

Ultra Markus wrote:its about time
i had a feeling this would happen ever since getting 86 UM

I feel Kingdom Rodimus paved the way for this. The first 2 CC ( Jetfire and Skylynx) which are pretty much universally loved by fans represented larger characters in fiction, but not large enough to be Titans. Weve seen a shift as traditionally smaller characters go from legends/core class to deluxe. Kingdom Rodimus was the experiment to see if fans would accept a mid level size character but with more "stuff" sold at a CC price point. I think Rodimus was honestly mixed. I mean I've never seen anyone give him a bad review, but the fact that Jetfire, Skylynx, and even Motormaster had multiple production runs whereas Kingdom Rodimus was on heavy discount, as low as $40 USD at one point speaks for itself. Still I guess Hasbro is confident enough in their design team to roll out yet another Optimus. I'm sure by all practical standards it will be the " perfect" representation of that toy, with all the bells and whistles. But honestly I'm good with ER. Prime, I got the weapons pack with add ons so I'm good.

Sowndwave76 wrote:I don’t think this release will involve any damaged parts, even removable

The thing is, it's what they looked like in The Movie. They could have a SS'86 Windrider figure. But for authenticity he should resemble the corpse we see.

Sowndwave76 wrote:One reason I really hope this happens is because it may be another nudge for Hastak to make a new, vastly improved G1 (bot mode) Megatron.

I think RED is going to be the only viable option for SS'86 Megs really.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:I don’t think this release will involve any damaged parts, even removable

The thing is, it's what they looked like in The Movie. They could have a SS'86 Windrider figure. But for authenticity he should resemble the corpse we see.

Sowndwave76 wrote:One reason I really hope this happens is because it may be another nudge for Hastak to make a new, vastly improved G1 (bot mode) Megatron.

I think RED is going to be the only viable option for SS'86 Megs really.

Well, if they cheat a bit with the story, I'm sure a perfect looking G1 bot Megatron that transform into a tank would be possible in leader class.
At worst, it could come out in Legacy.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Windrider

Who's that? The secret lovechild of Windcharger and Wildrider?

Sabrblade wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Windrider

Who's that? The secret lovechild of Windcharger and Wildrider?

Pesky autocorrect

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:I don’t think this release will involve any damaged parts, even removable

The thing is, it's what they looked like in The Movie. They could have a SS'86 Windrider figure. But for authenticity he should resemble the corpse we see.

Like I said, I won't be shocked or surprised if there is something included that helps create the battle damage. But there's no way I see that as being the central design aspect/gimmick of this figure. Hastak may choose to take the bot of this CC version and re-release it in a retooled, repainted "dead", exclusive version. It would actually be a decent way to get another use out of what is normally a one-and-done figure class.
But obviously he wasn't just seen dead in the movie. And with this, I wouldn't be surprised if the anniversary (even though it's not a major anniversary year for the movie) influences this release at least some.
We'll see hopefully sooner than later, but just like Ironhide, Brawn, and Ratchet have non-damaged, SS86 versions, I see this release following suit.
And similar to SS86 Ultra Magnus, I'm betting this new CC version is essentially meant to be the definitive, G1 version of OP. Not only will this represent his movie appearance, but also his appearance in every cartoon episode. The packaging is going to be SS86, but there's also a bigger picture here.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I think RED is going to be the only viable option for SS'86 Megs really.

For now, yes. But if there's a major character that is overdue for an updated, screen-accurate figure, Megatron has to be towards the top of that list.
I and others have said it for a while now-- it's time to make a version that looks completely G1 in bot mode, and allow the alt mode to "suffer". At this point, I don't care that it's not a pistol... Not to mention, if it were, it's not like that could be held by any other figure. Even one as large as CW Devastator would look awkward holding a handgun that's almost the same size as one of the seeker jets.

SynchroBunny wrote:Don't know why people are surprised we're getting another Optimus at this point.

Didn't Hasbro say a while back that their gameplan going forward was to have an Optimus figure on the shelves every year for their main lines, because he's one of the most recognisable characters in the franchise?

Not saying "Don't be mad" at another Prime, we're fed up of seeing Shelf-warmer Bees here too

We already have Legacy United Deluxe OP, Voyager Animated OP, Leader OP, and SS Level A MV8 OP for 2024. We don't need a CC figure just to hit every price point next year (I'm sure Core Prime will still be available).

Emerje

My main issue with CC for Rodimus was tooling resources put into the trailer thereby increasing the price point which landed him in CC. For those of us not really into the "cargo" section that only display their Bots on a shelf it artificially inflates the price. When I personally would have been fine with Leader Class if it left out the Trailer, although really he feels more like a Voyager to me.

I had the same issue with Leader Kingdom Prime, "technically" a Voyager put into a Leader price point with a craptastic trailer to make it seem worth the increase. I would have certainly opted for a Voyager release if it meant no trailer.

At least with both UM releases the trailer actually becomes part of the Bot so you're not left with an unused item collecting dust somewhere. I just don't have that kind of space to store "extras" or to set up an alt display with them in Alt mode or to utilize the "battle platform" function that bot OP and Rodimus trailers have.

All that said, it will depend greatly on how his basic both mode turns out and if they don't cheap out with the trailer again on whether I'd consider buying him. Because while I may not "use" in that sense I'm not about to "pay" for something that isn't delivered.

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:Disappointing but not surprising. After WFC put out a trio of G1 Commanders (and Legacy made one), Commander class finally comes to Studio Series! What exciting new characters will they do now that they have the character rosters of numerous movies?

It’s just more G1 commanders, and redos of characters that got definitive leaders just a few years ago.

Basically my feelings too.

So, being very objective, what needs to happen for a G1 Prime to warrant Commander Class price?

If we start with Earthrise as our basis:

1. Needs to be larger. Earthrise was fine for its purpose, but for a commander class that works with the SS-86 figures better, and to accommodate the price it really needs to be a bit beefier. Might not be really any taller, but it does need to feel like there is more going on inside. More heft if you will.

2. Starting from the top, maybe a different head option. not sure what that could be. don't think they'd include a Starscream head for this, but maybe a more toy accurate head and a cartoon head? Yellow eyes and blue eyes?

3. Longer Smokestacks. Earthrise's were pitifully small.

4. Arm articulation is fine, and don't see much room for improvement there, but it probably wold need to get a separate index finger for "heroic pointing"

5. Maybe an ab-crunch.

6. They'd need to resolve the bumper and front wheels issue. They have to somehow make them tuck into his back and not be hanging down his back which limits the waist swivel when properly stowed.

7. Slightly less lanky legs. and better gas tanks. The ones on earth rise where less than stellar, and had a tendency to not hold open in truck mode, or move out in robot mode and mine pop out quite easily.

8. Knees and ankles are fine. So other than maybe some red lights for the toes, not much needs to be improved there.

Moving onto the Trailer:
1. It definitely needs to be bigger.
2. Needs to have a blue repair bot, with missiles (even if they don't launch, not expecting spring loaded launchers in any way)
3. Locations to store all accessories.
4. Probably more G1 accurate fold out stands for base mode.

Accessories
They need to include them this time, and not make you buy an entirely different figure for them.
1. Ion Blaster (large, non-folding, accurate)
2. Axe. Large translucent Axe.
3. Roller.
4. Matrix (obviously)
5. Sideswipe jetpack
6. Gas nozzle, hose and base connector. (I'm having doubts they'd include this though)
7. No doubt they'd include blast effects like Magnus.


I'd expect this would add up to around Magnus's $75 bucks, don't see how that can go up to $89.99 though.

What else to add to make that pricer point? Energon cubes? Key to vector sigma? Megatron in gun mode? Spike and Spark Plug?

Seems like either the robot / cab needs to beef up the engineering and parts count or it's getting a ton of superfluous accessories to make up the price.

I think we can at least expect the cab section to be proportionately the same in both size and shape to the cab of SS86 Commander class Ultra Magnus.

Sabrblade wrote:I think we can at least expect the cab section to be proportionately the same in both size and shape to the cab of SS86 Commander class Ultra Magnus.

Agreed. Beefier cab closer to Magnus Yes.

Let me put on my surprised face now.

A large number of interchangeable battle damage parts could make it more enticing.

Maybe they'll include TWO voyager sized OP figures in the Commander box - a live one, and a 'dead' one! Regardless, I'll be interested in seeing what they do with this one. ER Optimus is great, but the trailer is kind of only 50% 'there'. I've stashed the trailer away in storage simply because I never use it, and it takes up shelf space that I could use for displaying other figures. Though I did the same with Rodimus' trailer, and Toxitron.

The gas tanks on ER OP's legs are a constant source of frustration. They don't lock into place, and it seems that they're in the exact spot where it's most natural to put your fingers when handling the figure. So you always wind up pushing the tanks down, and have to keep pulling them back out. And ER OP's gun was stubby and underwhelming.

It'll be an interesting challenge. If they make him any 'bigger' then he won't be in scale with the other figures like he is now. And we all know what a stickler Hasbro is on keeping figures in scale...

Sabrblade wrote:I think we can at least expect the cab section to be proportionately the same in both size and shape to the cab of SS86 Commander class Ultra Magnus.

3P already made mini masterpiece that are 99% cartoon accurate at the scout/legends scale. So if they can do it, I don't see how can't do it at the Generations scale with a freaking commander budget.

Overcracker wrote:So, being very objective, what needs to happen for a G1 Prime to warrant Commander Class price?

If we start with Earthrise as our basis:

1. Needs to be larger. Earthrise was fine for its purpose, but for a commander class that works with the SS-86 figures better, and to accommodate the price it really needs to be a bit beefier. Might not be really any taller, but it does need to feel like there is more going on inside. More heft if you will.

2. Starting from the top, maybe a different head option. not sure what that could be. don't think they'd include a Starscream head for this, but maybe a more toy accurate head and a cartoon head? Yellow eyes and blue eyes?

3. Longer Smokestacks. Earthrise's were pitifully small.

4. Arm articulation is fine, and don't see much room for improvement there, but it probably wold need to get a separate index finger for "heroic pointing"

5. Maybe an ab-crunch.

6. They'd need to resolve the bumper and front wheels issue. They have to somehow make them tuck into his back and not be hanging down his back which limits the waist swivel when properly stowed.

7. Slightly less lanky legs. and better gas tanks. The ones on earth rise where less than stellar, and had a tendency to not hold open in truck mode, or move out in robot mode and mine pop out quite easily.

8. Knees and ankles are fine. So other than maybe some red lights for the toes, not much needs to be improved there.

Moving onto the Trailer:
1. It definitely needs to be bigger.
2. Needs to have a blue repair bot, with missiles (even if they don't launch, not expecting spring loaded launchers in any way)
3. Locations to store all accessories.
4. Probably more G1 accurate fold out stands for base mode.

Accessories
They need to include them this time, and not make you buy an entirely different figure for them.
1. Ion Blaster (large, non-folding, accurate)
2. Axe. Large translucent Axe.
3. Roller.
4. Matrix (obviously)
5. Sideswipe jetpack
6. Gas nozzle, hose and base connector. (I'm having doubts they'd include this though)
7. No doubt they'd include blast effects like Magnus.

As part of the studio series line, we should expect the figure to be screen accurate, and IIRC he didn't use the axe in the movie. He also didn't have the jetpack or Roller and its (his?) accessories.

So to get to the Commander price point, that trailer has to be on point, probably also used as Optimus's "death bed."

However, if they focus on the 40th anniversary aspect as opposed to the studio series one, then all the stuff you listed should be included.

Rodimus Prime wrote:However, if they focus on the 40th anniversary aspect as opposed to the studio series one, then all the stuff you listed should be included.

I think this is the most likely scenario.

Also, as far as accessories go, "Leader" SS86 Starscream have set a precedent with the throne that never appeared in the movie.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:However, if they focus on the 40th anniversary aspect as opposed to the studio series one, then all the stuff you listed should be included.

I think this is the most likely scenario.

Also, as far as accessories go, "Leader" SS86 Starscream have set a precedent with the throne that never appeared in the movie.

Let's face it, Hasbro would actually release this twice. First as SS86 retail release, a well engineered Optimus with done up trailer. He comes with gun and blast effects as well as autobot city backdrop (so fans can remake his epic duel with a non-existent SS86 megs)

Then, SDCC rolls round (or pulsecon...or any event really) and they release a 40th anniversary special Commander Class Optimus Prime with all the bells and whistles (roller and all)....They sell it as a higher price.

*I am joking with this but I could see Hasbro doing it

ZeroWolf wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:However, if they focus on the 40th anniversary aspect as opposed to the studio series one, then all the stuff you listed should be included.

I think this is the most likely scenario.

Also, as far as accessories go, "Leader" SS86 Starscream have set a precedent with the throne that never appeared in the movie.

Let's face it, Hasbro would actually release this twice. First as SS86 retail release, a well engineered Optimus with done up trailer. He comes with gun and blast effects as well as autobot city backdrop (so fans can remake his epic duel with a non-existent SS86 megs)

Then, SDCC rolls round (or pulsecon...or any event really) and they release a 40th anniversary special Commander Class Optimus Prime with all the bells and whistles (roller and all)....They sell it as a higher price.

*I am joking with this but I could see Hasbro doing it

Only twice? Sorry, I'm cynical and will expect at least five releases. SS86, a "special" 40th anniversary version (cell shaded or metallic paint), a "dead" version, and at least one version of Nemesis Prime. Plus They could throw in a Shattered Glass version.

One option I don't think anyone has considered yet is the addition of electronics...eyes that fade to dark, a voice speaker with multiple movie quotes...