Auction for Lawson Japan Exclusive Blackout "4500X" Movie-Accurate Repaint

Why does Blackout have an Autobot insignia?

So much for acurate...

Yeah, I wonder who f***ed that one up? Hope they catch that one before they really start cranking them out!

Whiner-tron wrote:
So much for acurate...

Yeah, that sort of throws out the "movie accuracy" aspect of this figure out the window...

Oh, and he still has his stupid Mickey Mouse hands...

Movie accurate, inaccurate, but whatever.

How about a size accurate Voyager?

looks good cept the autobot symbol

Covenant wrote:Movie accurate, inaccurate, but whatever.

How about a size accurate Voyager?

Well, 'original' movie Blackout was Voyager sized, thus making him a size accurate Voyager figure.

I think what he meant was the figure is Deluxe-sized with a Deluxe-sized weapon.

1337W422102 wrote:I think what he meant was the figure is Deluxe-sized with a Deluxe-sized weapon.

Cool. I thought he was talking about scale 'issues' and how Blackout should be Leader sized and all that. I was just poking fun.

Perrty.

But it does need a con symbol.

This looks like a crappy kitbash.

Also, I would like to address what seems a habit of news posters: listing an item's price in yen. I don't use yen. I don't know how to convert yen to dollars. Most of us on here don't. So why in the world do they tell us the price in yen with no "approx. $___" thrown in?

And another thing, people should stop whining about movie accuracy at the same time as complaining that the hands look like Mickey Mouse hands. Those are the hands he had in the movie. Sheesh.

I think this actually looks less accurate than even the normal version does. It's (still) way too blue, and this one has too many light grey highlights. What's so hard about producing a properly colored grey & black toy?

That misplaced Autobot logo sums up the so-called "accuracy" pretty well

I am digging the paint scheme (minus the bot symbol ofcourse). I might just have to pony out for one of these!

I think I replied to the wrong thread about this. haha

Yeah, that AUTOBOT symbol on an obvious Decepticon bothers me greatly. How do you mess that up! hehe

- Lionel

Blackout's supposed to be the loyal one, but he's a bigger traitor than Starscream!

i think i see another autobot marking on his tail

Two things explain away the autobot symbol usage. For one thing they call it a "Lawson DVD Exclusive 4500X "NEMESIS" BLACKOUT Prototype". I take the usage of "Nemesis" here to be the same as if this were a Nemesis Prime figure. As Nemesis Prime would be Optimus Prime repainted as a Decepticon, Nemesis Blackout would be movie Blackout repainted as an Autobot.

As for the other thing I take as at least an implied reason for the Autobot symbol usage, the following quote is from the eBay page.

am7772 wrote:Blue + Silver markings AUTOBOT Blackout IN stock NOW!

I didn't think Blackout was "Blue + Silver", as it was put in the quote, but the quote plainly calls this figure "AUTOBOT Blackout". I think it speaks for itself, but I've got to wonder why it would get called "Autobot Blackout" if it wasn't meant to be released as as an Autobot.

A nice redeco, but just way to much money for me. I'd rather take that money and pay someone to give me something unique.

Also, why doesn't this figure have that awesome chest gun like in the film?

but why does he have an autobot logo?

Dispensor wrote:Also, I would like to address what seems a habit of news posters: listing an item's price in yen. I don't use yen. I don't know how to convert yen to dollars. Most of us on here don't. So why in the world do they tell us the price in yen with no "approx. $___" thrown in?

Four words in two pairs. 'google search' and 'currency converter'. Less than two minutes legwork and a dollar value relative to any commonly negotiable currency can be yours.

Dispensor wrote:Also, I would like to address what seems a habit of news posters: listing an item's price in yen. I don't use yen. I don't know how to convert yen to dollars. Most of us on here don't. So why in the world do they tell us the price in yen with no "approx. $___" thrown in?

Well, that's because you don't live in Japan. This figure is available in Japan. The preorder page is in japanese and it's aimed at a japanese market. The price is listed in yen, so we list the price in yen in the news story. If you want to know what it costs in US dollars, use an online currency converter.

This site is very international, not everything has to be americanised. You don't hear the huge Canadian, British or Australian population of the boards complain when stuff is listed only in US dollars, do you?

Not all of us americans are self sentered jerks, you know.

not to be critic but in the film he doesnt have the red and white banner flag on his tail fin hes there is no white and red on the tail of the copter hes all grey in the film but he does look good if didnt have blackout allready i pick him up.

and whats with hasbro all of sudden putting battle damage paint sheme on the figures now to me they look like crap.?

looks sorta half assed...

tyler1451 wrote:but why does he have an autobot logo?

Uh...because he's being released as an Autobot, maybe? For clarity, that was my point before: the info in the eBay page for this auction implies that this is going to be an Autobot.

Whiner-tron wrote:Not all of us americans are self sentered jerks, you know.

lol, true, but the self centered jerky americans are always the loudest so they tend to get a lot of attention.

Dispensor wrote:
Also, I would like to address what seems a habit of news posters: listing an item's price in yen. I don't use yen. I don't know how to convert yen to dollars. Most of us on here don't. So why in the world do they tell us the price in yen with no "approx. $___" thrown in?

Much like this post from an american. When you travel to other countries, do you get mad at the locals for not speaking english? LOL

Skowl wrote:This site is very international, not everything has to be americanised. You don't hear the huge Canadian, British or Australian population of the boards complain when stuff is listed only in US dollars, do you?

QFT, with the fall of the american dollar picking up steam, how long before people stop listing the comparative american dollar cost altogether? If the toy was made and sold in a different part of the world, why is it the news crew's responsibility to convert the currency?

They would make a leader class Blackout and no so much repaints. After all, he is the bigest decepticon(and transformer)in the movie.

Dispensor wrote:Also, I would like to address what seems a habit of news posters: listing an item's price in yen. I don't use yen. I don't know how to convert yen to dollars. Most of us on here don't. So why in the world do they tell us the price in yen with no "approx. $___" thrown in?

www.xe.com

converts almost near nigh every single currency in the world- and is regularly updated , too.

on topic, i think looking at the silver paint "damage", doesn't it look eerily similar to the "mud splat" on redeco Ironhide?

man, i wouldn't spend big bucks on this toy. at that money, i'd rather spend it on Jin's uber-customized Blackouts (but wait, don't they cost more than $100? rats!)

My sister and I made a bet about something in Japan for $1000 bucks. She of course lost and said she would give me 1k yen instead. So I looked it up and 1k yen was equivalent to $8 USD. So... yeah still kinda expensive.

Sometimes Hasbro makes me wanna slap myself... The only thing more Movie accurate about that is that it has some more army badging!

Zemper- I was going to post the link to XE. It's a very useful site.

Off the top of my head I reckon Y8980 is about £40, which is pretty steep for a DVD + repaint even in the UK. I know DVDs are usually mad-expensive in Japan, but still...

I suspect he has an Autobot logo for the same reason that the original movie Starscream prototype had a damaged face- to impact the resale value of the proto. Of course, faction-switching just makes it a unique variant and is likely to push the price up more...

-Nick...

Kayevcee wrote:Zemper- I was going to post the link to XE. It's a very useful site.

Off the top of my head I reckon Y8980 is about £40, which is pretty steep for a DVD + repaint even in the UK. I know DVDs are usually mad-expensive in Japan, but still...

I suspect he has an Autobot logo for the same reason that the original movie Starscream prototype had a damaged face- to impact the resale value of the proto. Of course, faction-switching just makes it a unique variant and is likely to push the price up more...

-Nick...

quite true, factory defect first-runs are usually more valuable, and i guess this toy's going to go in there with the rest of the more expensive ones.

but even if it's done the way it should have been done, i wouldn't get this toy...it's not movie-accurate at all, the colors just don't scream out military like it would have in the movie.

Lawson's previous exclusive, gold BB, was waay better than this.

If he's an Autobot, what's with the red optics?

Blackout has jointed the Autobots in the Japanese movie

what0080 wrote:If he's an Autobot, what's with the red optics?

Well, why did Frenzy have blue optics?

can a person buy this on japan? is it available at a local lawson convenience store?

why does he have a autobot insignia?

Dispensor wrote:And another thing, people should stop whining about movie accuracy at the same time as complaining that the hands look like Mickey Mouse hands. Those are the hands he had in the movie. Sheesh.

QFT!

I like him, except the autobot symbol of course, lol.

gotta wonder how you can miss that when you're going on about 'accuracy'

Plus maybe it's just me, but I don't see the 4500X in any of the pics, wasn't it towards the back on the "drivers?" side?

I am going to buy this toy if it is going to sell, but, now way, there is now reason at all that the Autobots deserve someone that powerful!
(oh, whats the use of my comment they already got Evac and his rotor blade power, i'm just lucky that none of my transformers are bad guys, even though i have decepticons.)

Dispensor wrote:This looks like a crappy kitbash.

Also, I would like to address what seems a habit of news posters: listing an item's price in yen. I don't use yen. I don't know how to convert yen to dollars. Most of us on here don't. So why in the world do they tell us the price in yen with no "approx. $___" thrown in?

If you don't know how to convert Yen, why assume the poster does?

currency calculator - according to this, 8990 yen = US$81.