Best Look Yet at Optimus Prime's Truck mode in Transformers 7

Once again, I'm glad that they are going for a non-real truck with plenty of "meat" behind to allow for a proper traditional Optimus transformation.

transformers_va wrote:Too bad we're still getting that crappy Camaro Bee, and that he's probably still a main character. If they have to include him, I REALLY hope they at least finally drop that "Bee doesn't have a voice" crap

You know they won't do that. These Hollywood chums see it as too iconic to eliminate.

transformers_va wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:You know they won't do that. These Hollywood chums see it as too iconic to eliminate.

It's funny that this could be considered "iconic", as Bee was around long before the Bay movies, but I agree with you that they won't do that

Was he, though? He certainly disappeared into obscurity for over a decade after Hasbro lost his name. Like it or not, the first movie is what brought Bumblebee back into prominence and made him a household name for the brand. Before then, Bumblebee was just another name in a long list of Average Joes that only the hardcore fans cared about, with his role having since been replaced by the likes of Cheetor and Hot Shot. And it was the movie version of Bumblebee that became the standout version of the character, then one that made Hasbro boatloads of money. He and his dumb voice gimmick are too valuable to Paramount for them to give up either, especially after the most recent TF movie they made was specifically for him and his gimmick. Like it or not, we're stuck with him being a poor man's E.T. in these movies all thanks to one Mr. Steven Spielberg.

Interesting that he's parked next to red and white vans. I doubt that's a coincidence, but it's probably more of an Easter egg than confirmation of Ratchet and Ironhide being in the movie, maybe.

Emerje

transformers_va wrote:Yes, he was most definitely around, granted not in the same shining spotlight that he is now

Oh? Where was he during Beast Wars? Beast Machines? Robots in Disguise '01? Armada? Energon? Cybertron? As in, where the brand's main focus was before the movies.

transformers_va wrote:I don't understand the focus he gets these days.. he was a crappy character in G1, and is still a crappy character (even worse is he's lost his Bug charm, and is now a POS Camaro). I don't recall anyone in the 80s saying, "Man, Bee is my favourite character"... almost EVERY character was cooler/better than he was

Simple. Spielberg wanted a mascot, a focal kid-appeal character for his "A boy and his car" premise for the first movie, one that they could milk for all its worth in a foolhardy attempt to recapture the magic of E.T.'s whimsical appeal. Since the kid in the movie was gonna be named Witwicky, they chose the name of the Autobot who was the original Witwicky boy's best friend.

-Kanrabat- wrote:I can understand the "Bumblebee fatigue". But I'm pretty damn happy that Baybulbee is a thing because thanks to that mascot, Transformers is now more popular than ever and it brought at least two new generations of fans.

Thus ensuring the vitality of the brand for years to come.

Also, it's thanks to Baybulbee that we had two trilogies in a row celebrating G1, and much more to come.

This also never gets the credit it deserves, 07 give the franchise a much longer reach.

Sabrblade wrote:

Simple. Spielberg wanted a mascot, a focal kid-appeal character for his "A boy and his car" premise for the first movie, one that they could milk for all its worth in a foolhardy attempt to recapture the magic of BABY WEE WEE. whimsical appeal.[/quote]


Fixed it XD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AuTJC84yekw

transformers_va wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I can understand the "Bumblebee fatigue". But I'm pretty damn happy that Baybulbee is a thing because thanks to that mascot, Transformers is now more popular than ever and it brought at least two new generations of fans.

Thus ensuring the vitality of the brand for years to come.

Also, it's thanks to Baybulbee that we had two trilogies in a row celebrating G1, and much more to come.

This also never gets the credit it deserves, 07 give the franchise a much longer reach.

Really? So are you saying that it was specifically the Bay movies that did this, or could it be that the Transformers already have a huge fanbase, and any movies would have done this?

I don't think that the fanbase was that huge before 2007. It was pretty nice, but it could have been bigger. Then the 2007 movie happened and it was MAGICAL enough to revitalise the franchise into a new prosperity, like Beast Wars did back then.

Hasbro tried it a few more times for other brands like GI Joe but they couldn't recreate what the 2007 Bay movie did.

I find hilarious that to this day, there's still "Bay haters" who just refuse to acknowledge this fact.

-Kanrabat- wrote:I don't think that the fanbase was that huge before 207. It was pretty nice, but it could have been bigger. Then the 2007 movie happened and it was MAGICAL enough to revitalise the franchise into a new prosperity, like Beast Wars did back then.

Yes, it's inevitable that with new generations of ppl being born, the fanbase grew, but hard to judge due to the infancy of the internet. It's interesting that the site we're on was created -7 years BEFORE Bayverse

-Kanrabat- wrote:Hasbro tried it a few more times for other brands like GI Joe but they couldn't recreate what the 2007 Bay movie did.

Again, can be attributed to the existing fanbase, not Bay specifically

-Kanrabat- wrote:I find hilarious that to this day, there's still "Bay haters" who just refuse to acknowledge this fact.

Because it's NOT a fact

A few reasons I dislike (not hate) Bayverse:

• No real character developmemt
• More focus on humans than the Transformers
• Pathetic robot design (I’m from a highly intelligent robot species, but don’t have feet?!?! see below) Many times can't even make out where the robot's head actually is located
• Using existing character's names, just because you like them, with complete disregard to the existing fans.. ya know, the ones who fucking supported the franchise BEFORE Bay

I'm a brillo pad:


I've got no feet:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Are the movies garbage?
Yes.
Are the bots just a pite of random scrapmetal thrown into a blender?
Yes.
Did the movies brought more fans than ever?
Also yes.

Checkmate atheist.

Gonna have to agree with this one