BotCon 2015 Transformers: Official Pics of "The Boss" Megatron
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Comment by SW's SilverHammer
Apr 23, 2015
The back part uh, really doesn't work as a tank.
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Comment by Rated X
Apr 23, 2015
After being treated to full galleries of the actual figures (that were taken with official permission, I might add) whats the point of even showing these photoshopped images ?
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Comment by King Kuuga
Apr 23, 2015
Because Botcon says so, probably.
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Comment by shajaki
Apr 23, 2015
I think they'd be appreciative of our coverage for one thing. Other sites will news it. Maybe some viewers haven't seen our gallery (and can thus find it via this newest article). Aaaaand... because we news'd the other official reveals.Rated X wrote:After being treated to full galleries of the actual figures (that were taken with official permission, I might add) whats the point of even showing these photoshopped images ?
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Comment by william-james88
Apr 23, 2015
Am I the only one who doesnt get it? The Megatron toy looks fine but I don't know what it is or who it is. Which Megatron is this? I thought the Botcon toys were all about giving us toys we couldnt get elsewhere or a reimagining of sorts (like the Beast Wars set or the Animated set) in a unifying theme. This line just looks random. Especially the Megatron since we already have several classics/generations Megs (legends, deluxes, voyager and leader now) in both Tanks, Guns and a Stealth Bomber. And we already have a voyager DOTM Megatron toy that is obviously more screen accurate. We also already have a Megatron who is a combination of movie verse and G1 in the form of Prime Megatron (also in many scales). So I am wondering, is this just the representation of characters from a comic they will write? So like toys of fan fiction?
I really hope I am not coming off as a complete noob but I just dont see what going on with these toys here. I would love to get my hands on that breakdown mold though, but it will pretty much cost the same as hunting down a version of the takara one.
I really hope I am not coming off as a complete noob but I just dont see what going on with these toys here. I would love to get my hands on that breakdown mold though, but it will pretty much cost the same as hunting down a version of the takara one.
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Comment by MartianSpyGirl1996
Apr 23, 2015
It makes no sense... it's completely random and not anything anybody wanted. Definitely some people will think it's cool, but it works better as a custom and not a $60 exclusive wasting a new head. It's crap
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Comment by Sabrblade
Apr 23, 2015
See what's in bold text:
Sabrblade wrote:Jesse Wittenrich's words on the Megatron figure (note that the "gallery" he refers to is Ryan's Megatron gallery):He is a very nice dull olive green - the comic preview overdoes it significantly, and the lighting in videos makes it look darker than it actually is. That gallery though captures it almost exactly.
Boombox can be handheld, plug into the top of Megatron's forearm, the side of the forearm, or yes on the shoulder or back. Depending on where you like Megatron's fusion cannon to sit. And of course Megatron's hands rotate into his forearms so that Heavyweight can be a hand-replacement weapon just like the Energon Mace in G1.
The figure was always envisioned as a Movie-inspired Classics/Generations toy, which means the G1 face was central to the entire idea. Of course then a few of the movie design's flourishes were added to the classic bucket head look to tie further into that inspiration as well as to tie into the few random spikes on the Breakdown body. This is a toy that movie viewers who were interested in a semi-truck Megatron but don't collect movie toys can add among their G1-inspired toys and have him not look out of place. After all there's no shortage of Movie Megatron toys out there, so it was never the intent to try to recreate that look entirely.
Fiction-wise, he's from a universe with events similar to what happened in the movies... Only he of course doesn't die. And we get a Rodimus Prime, and an Optimus who stays dead. That doesn't mean he has to have the movie aesthetic since, well, again it's a universe that simply mirrors the events.
Also:Those running to the toy chests, do remember that the actual truck used for Megatron in the movie and the Hasbro toy color scheme are fairly dissimilar. So much so that when Takara Tomy had a chance to color correct the Voyager for the "Chronicle" release, they went all-out altering everything about the beige and gray.
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Comment by MartianSpyGirl1996
Apr 24, 2015
We know what he's meant to be. It's not hard to see what they were going for... the question was why.
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Comment by william-james88
Apr 24, 2015
Thanks Sabr. It really sounds like fan fiction to me though, and a toy based on it. The only place I would put that toy on a shelf would be next to RTS Lugnut, which is oddly specific and the only place I can see it fit. But even then, this is a classics reinterpretation of a movie toy. That's never happened before right? Or do we just call that the Prime line ?
Actually, come to think of it, this could work facing off against Hasbro's Evasion Mode Optimus Prime, who is a cross between a movie toy and a classics reinterpretation of the movie aesthetic.
Actually, come to think of it, this could work facing off against Hasbro's Evasion Mode Optimus Prime, who is a cross between a movie toy and a classics reinterpretation of the movie aesthetic.
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Comment by Sabrblade
Apr 24, 2015
There's also Frank Welker's coming to BotCon, so it's likely they wanted to do some kind of Megatron toy to honor his appearance. And it helps that Welker voiced DOTM Megatron in some non-film DOTM media.
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They could have made an update to Prime's Megatron instead. With a better alt mode, or what he would have looked it he took on an earth vehicle instead, giving people a decent Prime Megatron toy. I would have much preferred that. Welker is better known for voicing that Megatron than the movie related media.
Comment by william-james88
Apr 24, 2015
Sabrblade wrote:There's also Frank Welker's coming to BotCon, so it's likely they wanted to do some kind of Megatron toy to honor his appearance. And it helps that Welker voiced DOTM Megatron in some non-film DOTM media.
They could have made an update to Prime's Megatron instead. With a better alt mode, or what he would have looked it he took on an earth vehicle instead, giving people a decent Prime Megatron toy. I would have much preferred that. Welker is better known for voicing that Megatron than the movie related media.
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100% agree
Comment by Rated X
Apr 24, 2015
william-james88 wrote:Am I the only one who doesnt get it? The Megatron toy looks fine but I don't know what it is or who it is. Which Megatron is this? I thought the Botcon toys were all about giving us toys we couldnt get elsewhere or a reimagining of sorts (like the Beast Wars set or the Animated set) in a unifying theme. This line just looks random. Especially the Megatron since we already have several classics/generations Megs (legends, deluxes, voyager and leader now) in both Tanks, Guns and a Stealth Bomber. And we already have a voyager DOTM Megatron toy that is obviously more screen accurate. We also already have a Megatron who is a combination of movie verse and G1 in the form of Prime Megatron (also in many scales). So I am wondering, is this just the representation of characters from a comic they will write? So like toys of fan fiction?
100% agree
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Comment by Sabrblade
Apr 24, 2015
No more fanfic-y than the stuff Roberts and Barber do in the IDW comics (i.e. - Brainstorm's briefcase contains every universe inside it and created the multiverse, that's way more fanfic-y than anything the Club has done). Roberts even sometimes takes inspiration from the fanfics he wrote back in the day.william-james88 wrote:Thanks Sabr. It really sounds like fan fiction to me though, and a toy based on it.
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But I still make a distinction between the IDW comics and the Botcon comics. It probably wont be logical, but it's what I feel. While Hasbro does influence the comics to help them promote their toys, you did point out that they still exist to make their own stories and sometimes the designs even help inspire toy designers (Brainstorm was the best example of this right?). But it seems that the way Botcon works, (correct me if I am wrong people), the comic is just there to give reason to the toy's existence. Sure, that is how Transformers fiction is traditionally done (toy first and then show fiction to promote it) but that's for new lines, new toys, new characters or new interpretations. This here isn't that, especially with Megatron. He, to me, is the same as the bio of the RID Air Attack Optimus Primal toy. Now that is a great toy and I am thankful for his existence, but I can assure you that I consider him Optimus Primal from Beast Machines and not a time Traveller visiting Fire Convoy and helping him out. I do not consider the blurb which exists solely so that he can be finally released as part of a different line to be his backstory or reason for existence.
But in this case, with Megatron, it is. His blurb (the one you quoted above) is contrived just to make this toy happen. A toy that is not relevant anywhere aside from that comic (at least Primal was relevant, he was a show accurate Primal from Best Machines!). This toy exists to back up its fiction which only exists to back up this toy. That sounds like someone who has run out of ideas.
Comment by william-james88
Apr 24, 2015
Sabrblade wrote:No more fanfic-y than the stuff Roberts and Barber do in the IDW comics (i.e. - Brainstorm's briefcase contains every universe inside it and created the multiverse, that's way more fanfic-y than anything the Club has done). Roberts even sometimes takes inspiration from the fanfics he wrote back in the day.william-james88 wrote:Thanks Sabr. It really sounds like fan fiction to me though, and a toy based on it.
But I still make a distinction between the IDW comics and the Botcon comics. It probably wont be logical, but it's what I feel. While Hasbro does influence the comics to help them promote their toys, you did point out that they still exist to make their own stories and sometimes the designs even help inspire toy designers (Brainstorm was the best example of this right?). But it seems that the way Botcon works, (correct me if I am wrong people), the comic is just there to give reason to the toy's existence. Sure, that is how Transformers fiction is traditionally done (toy first and then show fiction to promote it) but that's for new lines, new toys, new characters or new interpretations. This here isn't that, especially with Megatron. He, to me, is the same as the bio of the RID Air Attack Optimus Primal toy. Now that is a great toy and I am thankful for his existence, but I can assure you that I consider him Optimus Primal from Beast Machines and not a time Traveller visiting Fire Convoy and helping him out. I do not consider the blurb which exists solely so that he can be finally released as part of a different line to be his backstory or reason for existence.
But in this case, with Megatron, it is. His blurb (the one you quoted above) is contrived just to make this toy happen. A toy that is not relevant anywhere aside from that comic (at least Primal was relevant, he was a show accurate Primal from Best Machines!). This toy exists to back up its fiction which only exists to back up this toy. That sounds like someone who has run out of ideas.
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Comment by Hero Alpha
Apr 24, 2015
I will gladly take one of these Megatron figures off someones hands if they dont like it 
Not sure where I would put him either but he just looks too sweet not to get. Plus I dont have a figure of that mold. Only one of the Botcon figures I like enough to put money on so far.
Not sure where I would put him either but he just looks too sweet not to get. Plus I dont have a figure of that mold. Only one of the Botcon figures I like enough to put money on so far.
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Comment by OptimusPrimeval
Apr 24, 2015
I think the Breakdown toy would have made a better Primal than a Megatron. But then, I think every toy should be remoulded into Primal, so...
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Comment by Evil Eye
Apr 24, 2015
Well Transformers fiction only ever exists to back up the toys anyway, so who really cares? The toy looks good, the mold is AFAIK a good one, and it's another Megatron. I don't really care about the others but I love the look of Megatron, and I hope he shows up on eBay for reasonable prices. I do wish he was grey but the olive drab looks good too. I'm gonna make him a tarp/cloak though for sure.
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Comment by shajaki
Apr 24, 2015
WJ, you make excellent points and I agree. Usually it wouldn't bother me since I think the Botcon stories are unique and diverse, but it's such a mixed bag this year that pulling it all together for a cohesive story seems like a herculean task.
I guess he exists for fans who really didn't want Megs to die in DOTM?
I guess he exists for fans who really didn't want Megs to die in DOTM?
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Actually I think they said he exists for the fans of DOTM megatron, but not the movie aaesthetic. Which kinda defeats the purpose in my a opinion because if you liked dotm Megatron, then you were fine with the movie look, which is what defined the appearance of the character, so making it G1 kinda removes that agency.
Comment by SW's SilverHammer
Apr 24, 2015
shajaki wrote:WJ, you make excellent points and I agree. Usually it wouldn't bother me since I think the Botcon stories are unique and diverse, but it's such a mixed bag this year that pulling it all together for a cohesive story seems like a herculean task.
I guess he exists for fans who really didn't want Megs to die in DOTM?
Actually I think they said he exists for the fans of DOTM megatron, but not the movie aaesthetic. Which kinda defeats the purpose in my a opinion because if you liked dotm Megatron, then you were fine with the movie look, which is what defined the appearance of the character, so making it G1 kinda removes that agency.
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Yeah, that definitely falls into my argument too that it just doesnt make much sense. But you add that to the fact that it is also movie megatron since he has the same backstory and that this movie megatron is the boss in a storyline they concocted that also has a shattered glas figure and
Not to say that I don't like this figure. I just feel that it has no purpose in a set like this at every angle it can be analysed and I can guarantee 100% that it will not be utilized in the way it is presented. And fans deserve better from a company that's sole existence is based on serving to them. If they wanted to make a classics version of movie figures then awesome, make a set out of that. They could all accompany Evasion Mode Prime on a shelf, that would be awesome. You could have movie drift colors and tooling on Animated Samurai Prowl. You could have movie Crosshairs using the generations Drift mold. It could have been fun, but now its just a hodge podge that is not referencing anything as a whole.
Everyone of these figures would have worked better as next year's subscription service. And instead of making nonsense that Megatron lived at the end of DOTM to be able to tell a story, you could just release him on his own as a new classics Megatron homaging movie megatron (or like I said, Aligned Megatron in an earth mode).
In the end, I still think its a nice figure, but this isnt the place for it and it really looks like the people that are supposed to be there for the fans are
now pulling stuff out of their a$$ and wasting time and assets.
PS: I also just realized that Movie Megatron isnt even dead, and he's still a truck, but humans call him Galvatron now. So even then
Comment by william-james88
Apr 24, 2015
SW's SilverHammer wrote:shajaki wrote:WJ, you make excellent points and I agree. Usually it wouldn't bother me since I think the Botcon stories are unique and diverse, but it's such a mixed bag this year that pulling it all together for a cohesive story seems like a herculean task.
I guess he exists for fans who really didn't want Megs to die in DOTM?
Actually I think they said he exists for the fans of DOTM megatron, but not the movie aaesthetic. Which kinda defeats the purpose in my a opinion because if you liked dotm Megatron, then you were fine with the movie look, which is what defined the appearance of the character, so making it G1 kinda removes that agency.
Yeah, that definitely falls into my argument too that it just doesnt make much sense. But you add that to the fact that it is also movie megatron since he has the same backstory and that this movie megatron is the boss in a storyline they concocted that also has a shattered glas figure and
Not to say that I don't like this figure. I just feel that it has no purpose in a set like this at every angle it can be analysed and I can guarantee 100% that it will not be utilized in the way it is presented. And fans deserve better from a company that's sole existence is based on serving to them. If they wanted to make a classics version of movie figures then awesome, make a set out of that. They could all accompany Evasion Mode Prime on a shelf, that would be awesome. You could have movie drift colors and tooling on Animated Samurai Prowl. You could have movie Crosshairs using the generations Drift mold. It could have been fun, but now its just a hodge podge that is not referencing anything as a whole.
Everyone of these figures would have worked better as next year's subscription service. And instead of making nonsense that Megatron lived at the end of DOTM to be able to tell a story, you could just release him on his own as a new classics Megatron homaging movie megatron (or like I said, Aligned Megatron in an earth mode).
In the end, I still think its a nice figure, but this isnt the place for it and it really looks like the people that are supposed to be there for the fans are
now pulling stuff out of their a$$ and wasting time and assets.
PS: I also just realized that Movie Megatron isnt even dead, and he's still a truck, but humans call him Galvatron now. So even then
