Comparison images of Transformers Unite Warriors Convoy Grand Prime's Prowl, Mirage and Sunstreaker

I don't know, I kinda like Hasbro Mirage and SunStreaker better. I like that they painted Prowl's "head lights" in robot mode, but I'm fine with the Hasby deco. I'm not feeling the grey face either. the only reason their faces were grey in the show is because they were approximating the silver with the paint they had. TF's heads/faces are silver and should stay that way. At least on these classic characters.
I'm fine with the Domestic decos. Just MLP. (my little 'pinion)

Cobotron wrote:I don't know, I kinda like Hasbro Mirage and SunStreaker better. I like that they painted Prowl's "head lights" in robot mode, but I'm fine with the Hasby deco. I'm not feeling the grey face either. the only reason their faces were grey in the show is because they were approximating the silver with the paint they had. TF's heads/faces are silver and should stay that way. At least on these classic characters.
I'm fine with the Domestic decos. Just MLP. (my little 'pinion)

I agree. Mirage and Streaker look better in hasbro colors and Prowl, while there are details that look nicer on Takara, the hasbro one still looks very good.

Sabrblade wrote:What is with Hasbro's persistence in using that weird greenish shade of yellow for Sunstreaker?

It's brighter to attract the kid's eyes.

Sabrblade wrote:

mooncake623 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:What is with Hasbro's persistence in using that weird greenish shade of yellow for Sunstreaker?

It's brighter to attract the kid's eyes.

Takara's looks more vibrant and vivid, whereas Hasbro's looks more faded and washed out.

Hasbro don't share your opinion.

Starsaber468 wrote:So many people are going to think this is optimus maximus when its really ultra prime and hasn't their been a teaser for UW optimus maximus?

No. It is not Optimus Maximus, nor is it Ultra Prime.

It is "Convoy Grand Prime", written in plan English on the box.



All of the Unite Warriors boxes write the English names in English (meaning that Unite Warriors Guardian has his name written as "Defensor" in English), so this isn't a case of "Convoy Grand Prime" being just the Japanese name of either Ultra Prime or Optimus Maximus. This is a third combiner form for Optimus.

For the most part, Takara has, not surprisingly, gone for more screen accurate decos. I like Takara's yellow on Sunstreaker so much better than Hasbro's choice for the mold, but Hasbro's use of more red, black, and gray in some strategic places breaks things up a bit more (and in the case of the shoulders, makes a nod to the original G1 toy). I think the superior yellow used makes the difference for me.

As for Mirage, Hasbro's shade of blue matches the G1 toy and character model much more closely than Takara's dark blue, though that dark blue does look nice. Takara has rearranged some of the paint layouts to be closer to the cartoon model, but it's not perfect either way. This is a bit of a toss up.

Finally, we have Prowl. He honestly looks good either way, but in the strictest sense, the extra touches like the painted headlights and the rearranged black, white, and gray parts make Takara's the winner as far as G1 fidelity goes.

One extra thing that I especially appreciate with Takara's versions is that the combiner tabs are colored to better blend in with their respective figures, instead of just uniform gray for everyone in the Hasbro versions. It helps each character work better as a stand alone "Classics" figure, if that's what you are interested in.

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:
All of the Unite Warriors boxes write the English names in English (meaning that Unite Warriors Guardian has his name written as "Defensor" in English), so this isn't a case of "Convoy Grand Prime" being just the Japanese name of either Ultra Prime or Optimus Maximus. This is a third combiner form for Optimus.

yeah, I think people have a tough time understanding because it is indeed a tad bit confusing but in truth the CW and UW lines together have given us a total of 3 different Combiners where Optimus is the torso:

Ultra Prime (the red torso with any limbs)
Optimus Maximus (white torso with the first phase of 84 bot limbs)
Convoy Grand Prime (red torso with the first phase of 84 bot limbs)

This does make me ask adumb question Sabr. Is it only Convoy Grand Prime if I buy the takara UW set? Or can I make my own Convoy Grand Prime using the hasbro versions of those molds/decos? If I put the red hasbro optimus torso with the hasbro autobot limbs is he still Ultra prime (since he is all hasbro) or does he become the hasbro deco version of Convoy Grand Prime?

What would determine the name of the Combined form anyway? The torso? The limbs? A combination of both? It's just odd...

For now I consider Convoy Grand Prime the Japanese release of our Optimus Maximus, since they both share the exact same molds. However, I am acknowledging that the torso has the deco of the first version, not Battle Core and will consider UW Convoy the Japanese counterpart of CW Optimus Prime.

From my personal definitions, "counterpart" implies minimal differences, while "release" may have an entirely different deco.

"It is "Convoy Grand Prime", written in plan English on the box."

A rose by any other name... It's clearly the red/blue Optimus torso bot for Japan, making it the equivalent of what Hasbro called Ultra Prime. What Takara writes on boxes in English doesn't change that, Japanese products use all sorts of English in all sorts of ways, not always particularly consistently.

"What would determine the name of the Combined form anyway? The torso? The limbs? A combination of both? It's just odd..."

The CW packaging and documentation makes the torso the determining factor, hence Superion with Drag Strip as a limb. Obviously they did that due to the makeup of the first wave, but you've also got stuff like Galvatronus who has no dedicated limbs (and Ultra kinda technically doesn't either since they've sort of made the G1 guys associated with Maximus in packaging/docs).

But obviously you can do what you want and consider it however you want with your own toys.


"I'd like a Sunstreaker which has the Takara versions Yellow but some of Hasbro's Detail to break up all that yellow."

Yes, I like that shade of yellow a lot better, but also really like the Hasbro version's homage to the parts that were red on the original toy due to the stickers being meant for a red diaclone/diakron version of the mold.

The Hasbro yellow is also slightly translucent, which doesn't help matters, some bits showing though a little if you look too close.

Wow lol, I think you should repost that image William-James...

william-james88 wrote:This does make me ask a dumb question Sabr. Is it only Convoy Grand Prime if I buy the takara UW set? Or can I make my own Convoy Grand Prime using the hasbro versions of those molds/decos? If I put the red hasbro optimus torso with the hasbro autobot limbs is he still Ultra prime (since he is all hasbro) or does he become the hasbro deco version of Convoy Grand Prime?

Dang it, Willy!
YOU CAN CALL YOUR TOYS WHAT EVER YOU WANT!!!!!!
It's your little world.
Have fun.