First Look at Transformers Studio Series 86 Junkyard
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Posted by Rodimus Knight on January 13th, 2022 @ 1:43pm CST
Posted by DeathReviews on January 13th, 2022 @ 3:04pm CST
Nice retool work though - it almost looks different from Wreck-Gar!
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 13th, 2022 @ 3:07pm CST
DeathReviews wrote:Looks like some of Junkyard's spikes got a little bent while they were smuggling this out of the factory....
Nice retool work though - it almost looks different from Wreck-Gar!
Comparing him to Wreck-Gar, everything up from the chest has been reshelled. Surprising.
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on January 13th, 2022 @ 5:55pm CST
I'd buy more Junkions if they care to retool them. Unlike Seekers just recolors aren't enough. Maybe some 3rd party will go nuts with these like they did with the Classics versions.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on January 13th, 2022 @ 7:27pm CST
Gauntlet101010 wrote:He looks great.
I'd buy more Junkions if they care to retool them. Unlike Seekers just recolors aren't enough. Maybe some 3rd party will go nuts with these like they did with the Classics versions.
I'd say at least 1 more version is a safe bet. With all the retooling they did, I would bet there is an alternate head for Wreck-Gar and another for the Junkyard tooling, giving 2 more possible more heads to release between the 2 bodies. That is without considering any potential SG uses.
Posted by Emerje on January 13th, 2022 @ 7:55pm CST
Emerje
Posted by sol magnus on January 13th, 2022 @ 7:57pm CST
Emerje wrote:Very impressive. I think most people expected Junkyard to have just a new head, but not only does he get a bunch of new body parts but he also got the extra armor on the arms. I wonder if he really comes with the axe, I have my doubts.
Emerje
While I don't know if I 'doubt it', I certainly hope that's not the case as well.
For all we know, those wheels are Weck-Gar's as well, and don't actually come with Junkyard considering where it likely came from.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 13th, 2022 @ 8:14pm CST
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on January 13th, 2022 @ 8:20pm CST
sol magnus wrote:Emerje wrote:Very impressive. I think most people expected Junkyard to have just a new head, but not only does he get a bunch of new body parts but he also got the extra armor on the arms. I wonder if he really comes with the axe, I have my doubts.
Emerje
While I don't know if I 'doubt it', I certainly hope that's not the case as well.
For all we know, those wheels are Weck-Gar's as well, and don't actually come with Junkyard considering where it likely came from.
I think the axe may be legit. If you look at Wreck-Gar, the axe handle matches the saddle bags for the bike that end up on his hips. In the photo of Junkyard, that axe handle matches his hips as well. However, the grey plastic used on both figures appears to be a slightly different shade. Obviously it could just be the photos and lighting and the exact same shade is used on both figures. But a match on parts within the same photo is a pretty good sign if nothing else.
Edit: I think the same thing applies to the red plastic of the blades and his spikes. So both parts of the axe are on sprues with parts that are re-used on both figures which is another good sign.
Posted by Bumblevivisector on January 13th, 2022 @ 10:26pm CST
I've already seen one 3P upgrade for SS Wreck Gar, but hopefully we won't need as many upgrades for this mold, since this extensive retool is evidence that HasTak finally learned the right lessons from all the previous 3p Junkions and upgrades, like all the echoes of good old City Commander they instilled in Siege Ultra Magnus.Gauntlet101010 wrote:He looks great.
I'd buy more Junkions if they care to retool them. Unlike Seekers just recolors aren't enough. Maybe some 3rd party will go nuts with these like they did with the Classics versions.
Not that we'll ever get official upgrades of every Junkion ever seen on screen, but if the Studio Series line keeps running into long stretches between live-action movies, who knows?
I'll buy at least 2 of this this guy.
Posted by william-james88 on January 13th, 2022 @ 10:48pm CST
This toy is due out in stores around April/May, since it is from Wave 2. The wave mate is Soundwave from the Bumblebee movie, who was also out in wave 1. Junkyard is not an exclusive of any kind.
Posted by primalxconvoy on January 14th, 2022 @ 3:12am CST
Posted by Emerje on January 14th, 2022 @ 8:11am CST
He looks better with the armor forward but this appears to be the proper position for the extra armor. If you look closely they actually molded tabs onto the side of Junkyard's feet that aren't found on Wreck-Gar's that fit into slots on the inside of the armor.
Emerje
Posted by Papa_prime on January 14th, 2022 @ 8:24am CST
Posted by NeonPrime on January 14th, 2022 @ 11:10am CST
Posted by M. Spector on January 14th, 2022 @ 3:18pm CST
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on January 15th, 2022 @ 5:07am CST
I noticed something about the SS86 Scourge mold. There's a molded detail visible in altmode that to my eyes looks fairly similar to (or at least reminiscent of) the windows found on Cybertron Sideways and Soundwave.
How much discussion has their been of this? Could it be a sign of things to come? Or is it more likely just an homage to the fact that a Scourge and some Sweeps were made using the Sideways mold?
Posted by Rodimus Prime on January 15th, 2022 @ 8:58am CST
Posted by sol magnus on January 15th, 2022 @ 9:04am CST
Rodimus Prime wrote:He looks better than Wreck-Gar. I still won't get him because I don't care about Junkions, but it's a good-looking figure. My 1 curiosity is if the wheels partsform or not. I haven't watched reviews.
What do you mean partsform? Do they completely come off the vehicle/robot? If so, yes...but so did the original toy AND cartoon counterpart.
Posted by Seibertron on January 15th, 2022 @ 9:07am CST
Hm. Apparently he is. My memory was way off.
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Junkyard_(G1)
Posted by partholon on January 15th, 2022 @ 1:30pm CST
i'll pick him up just to have wreckgar riding him.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on January 15th, 2022 @ 2:11pm CST
Yes that's what I was trying to see. I thought maybe the legs managed to bend in such ways that made the wheels a solid part instead of loose. Makes no difference, I was just curious. Thanks.sol magnus wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:He looks better than Wreck-Gar. I still won't get him because I don't care about Junkions, but it's a good-looking figure. My 1 curiosity is if the wheels partsform or not. I haven't watched reviews.
What do you mean partsform? Do they completely come off the vehicle/robot? If so, yes...but so did the original toy AND cartoon counterpart.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 15th, 2022 @ 2:26pm CST
Rodimus Prime wrote:Yes that's what I was trying to see. I thought maybe the legs managed to bend in such ways that made the wheels a solid part instead of loose. Makes no difference, I was just curious. Thanks.sol magnus wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:He looks better than Wreck-Gar. I still won't get him because I don't care about Junkions, but it's a good-looking figure. My 1 curiosity is if the wheels partsform or not. I haven't watched reviews.
What do you mean partsform? Do they completely come off the vehicle/robot? If so, yes...but so did the original toy AND cartoon counterpart.
Makes it easier for them to be used as weapons
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on January 15th, 2022 @ 3:36pm CST
And enables them to hang on the spikes; that's why the rear wheel doesn't rotate around the knee as it did on the original.Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Yes that's what I was trying to see. I thought maybe the legs managed to bend in such ways that made the wheels a solid part instead of loose. Makes no difference, I was just curious. Thanks.sol magnus wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:He looks better than Wreck-Gar. I still won't get him because I don't care about Junkions, but it's a good-looking figure. My 1 curiosity is if the wheels partsform or not. I haven't watched reviews.
What do you mean partsform? Do they completely come off the vehicle/robot? If so, yes...but so did the original toy AND cartoon counterpart.
Makes it easier for them to be used as weapons
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 15th, 2022 @ 3:40pm CST
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:And enables them to hang on the spikes; that's why the rear wheel doesn't rotate around the knee as it did on the original.Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Yes that's what I was trying to see. I thought maybe the legs managed to bend in such ways that made the wheels a solid part instead of loose. Makes no difference, I was just curious. Thanks.sol magnus wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:He looks better than Wreck-Gar. I still won't get him because I don't care about Junkions, but it's a good-looking figure. My 1 curiosity is if the wheels partsform or not. I haven't watched reviews.
What do you mean partsform? Do they completely come off the vehicle/robot? If so, yes...but so did the original toy AND cartoon counterpart.
Makes it easier for them to be used as weapons
The wheels aren't one solid piece, rather they spin on a separate hollow ring; that allows them to spin despite being attached to any 5mm hole, including the spikes.
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on January 15th, 2022 @ 3:57pm CST
I am well aware of that - I own Wreck-Gar.Jelze Bunnycat wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:And enables them to hang on the spikes; that's why the rear wheel doesn't rotate around the knee as it did on the original.Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:Yes that's what I was trying to see. I thought maybe the legs managed to bend in such ways that made the wheels a solid part instead of loose. Makes no difference, I was just curious. Thanks.sol magnus wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:He looks better than Wreck-Gar. I still won't get him because I don't care about Junkions, but it's a good-looking figure. My 1 curiosity is if the wheels partsform or not. I haven't watched reviews.
What do you mean partsform? Do they completely come off the vehicle/robot? If so, yes...but so did the original toy AND cartoon counterpart.
Makes it easier for them to be used as weapons
The wheels aren't one solid piece, rather they spin on a separate hollow ring; that allows them to spin despite being attached to any 5mm hole, including the spikes.
My point is that the need to hang on the spikes is the reason the rear wheel partsforms instead of twisting around below the knee joint to get between the legs (as was done on the G1 toy).
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 15th, 2022 @ 4:11pm CST
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:I am well aware of that - I own Wreck-Gar.
More aimed at the OP Rodimus
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on January 15th, 2022 @ 11:09pm CST
Anyway, have my new main CHUG Scourge with my two TR Scourges serving as Sweeps.
Posted by Emerje on January 16th, 2022 @ 12:20am CST
Jelze Bunnycat wrote:The wheels aren't one solid piece, rather they spin on a separate hollow ring; that allows them to spin despite being attached to any 5mm hole, including the spikes.
They're basically very unsatisfying fidget spinners.
Emerje
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on January 16th, 2022 @ 1:36am CST
To be fair, they're more satisfying than the original's wheel shield since they're more interesting to look at.Emerje wrote:Jelze Bunnycat wrote:The wheels aren't one solid piece, rather they spin on a separate hollow ring; that allows them to spin despite being attached to any 5mm hole, including the spikes.
They're basically very unsatisfying fidget spinners.
Emerje
But then, who needs a spinner when you have transformation to fidget with?
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 16th, 2022 @ 1:52am CST
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on January 16th, 2022 @ 4:26am CST
Seibertron wrote:Is Junkheap the right colors? I feel like his colors are supposed to be similar to Wreck-Gar.
Hm. Apparently he is. My memory was way off.
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Junkyard_(G1)
I tend to glaze over during the Junkion scenes. So I forget there was more than just Wreck-Gar: copy & pasted. Looking to the Wiki, it looks like there is still five ( ) more Junkions from The Movie to bring to this line:
From left to right: Scrapheap, Wasteoid Gamma, Re-Cycle, Rubbish, HAZMAT and Greasestain. Junkyard also is visible just below Greasestain's arm.
Scrapheap
Wasteoid Gamma (awful name )
Re-Cycle (The one who smooches Grimlock)
Rubbish
HAZMAT
Greasestain
They've certainly found the Seeker-Mold for this line
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on January 16th, 2022 @ 9:16am CST
Maybe it's just rose tinted glasses, but G1 army builders are just so cool. I just wish they had spread them out more (in today's toylines). The Sweeps have a nice, uniform, feel to them. Seekers are also military, but individualized to the point where any recolor of the same character can fit in nicely (which can also be said of tapes). Sharkticons & Alicons have an ugly, monstrous ascetic the other factions don't have. And Junkions can be highly individualized while sharing a unique riding gimmick that sets them apart.
There's just so much variety. All in just a couple seasons and one movie.
I'm tempted to get some more of the older Insecticons to go with the new ones. Too bad I don't have friggin' room.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on January 16th, 2022 @ 9:22am CST
The more mechanised nature of mass production made more sense for advanced alien robots. If there is need for a flier, one is constructed. If effective and there is need for more. Simply replicate the first one.
Posted by Sowndwave76 on January 16th, 2022 @ 10:19am CST
But between knowing there will be plenty I skip from Legacy, and seeing this guy, I will be very tempted to get these variants…
As others have said, they’re just cool.
And good on Hastak for making enough changes to create something that is different enough…
We all know why the Sweeps figure is so similar to Scourge, but they obviously didn’t have to do so much retooling for Junkyard… This is pretty awesome. In a few ways I think he does look better than Wreck-gar.
So while I can’t say right now that this is a buy-on-sight figure,
It’s a “most likely” purchase.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 16th, 2022 @ 11:00am CST
AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
Most of these look like recolors of one of the two complete Junkion character models made for the movie (except for Wreck-Gar, of course). With Junkyard and maybe Scrapheap as well, Hasbro and Takara could give us some of these other background characters in Generations Selects or some other exclusive channel with some new paint jobs, head sculpts, and maybe a few interchangeable bits of junk "kibble."
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on January 16th, 2022 @ 11:03am CST
Wolfman Jake wrote:AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
Most of these look like recolors of one of the two complete Junkion character models made for the movie (except for Wreck-Gar, of course). With Junkyard and maybe Scrapheap as well, Hasbro and Takara could give us some of these other background characters in Generations Selects or some other exclusive channel with some new paint jobs, head sculpts, and maybe a few interchangeable bits of junk "kibble."
WG and Greasestain look like a new mold might be needed. The rest would suffice from minor retools for the Selects line.
Posted by Sowndwave76 on January 16th, 2022 @ 11:05am CST
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:...You know what occurred to me would be kinda funny? If Snarl wound up in the Legacy line while the other Dinobots were all in SS86.
This won't be surprising... Mainly because Snarl was in the movie for literally a few seconds.
But also because at some point SS86 will come to an end.
Considering I really thought characters like Kickback and Blitzwing would be a part of this subline and aren't, I'm thinking it only has a year or two left. I assume they're going to want to get Swoop under this banner before it's over, but Snarl may not make the cut in time.
Of course I could be totally wrong... I think about things like Gnaw coming with his blaster, Cyclonus being in Kingdom when he clearly has the SS86 aesthetics, and especially Buzzworthy Kup and Cliffjumper...
Which quick side note; if CJ does get a SS86 release, I won't be at all surprised if his windows are transparent plastic.
But who knows, as far as I've seen, SS86 is selling and selling well.
If Hastak ends up milking this beyond a couple years it won't be surprising at all.
IF Arcee and Ironhide are in fact just slight repaints of their previous molds, I could see Hastak taking this a step further and doing this with other figures to stretch the life of the line.
I could see anything from previous exclusives such as the coneheads and Ratchet, to repainted figures like a battle-damaged Megatron or Prowl keeping this line going.
I'm relatively annoyed that we're not getting a couple Dinobots this year. I really thought both Sludge and Swoop would get 2022 releases.
That, and only getting one Insecticon in Legacy.
Looks like Hastak is going to keep me in the game a while longer.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on January 16th, 2022 @ 11:13am CST
As characters introduced in The Movie should have been released in this line. Not in an unrelated line, just to cater to Warden's fetish.
Posted by ZeroWolf on January 16th, 2022 @ 4:04pm CST
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on January 16th, 2022 @ 6:33pm CST
The only advantage Studio has over Kingdom is a lack of blast effect ports on the body of the figures.
Posted by Sowndwave76 on January 16th, 2022 @ 8:23pm CST
Although I’m betting this subline is probably selling better than any other.
Talk about a happy accident.
But besides ports/pegs, there is a different aesthetic. Period.
The molded details seen on both Siege & ER figures has not been added to figures in SS86.
It’s what a few of us have been calling Siege greebling.
The Dinobots are an exception (as well as ER Starscream) but not surprising considering how large they are, and in turn, how large their limbs & panels are.
Cyclonus & Galvatron are definitely 2 that have the same design aesthetics as Hot Rod, Scourge, Kup, Blurr, Wreck-gar, Perceptor, etc.
I’m not claiming this as my personal discovery by any means.
But anyone who wants to deny this… I truly don’t know how or why.
And no, I don’t care which packaging a figure is sold in.
Posted by Sabrblade on January 16th, 2022 @ 8:49pm CST
And I'd be willing to bet that it wasn't originally supposed to continue after Kingdom ended, but that had to in order to pad out Studio Series in general to keep it going for another year due to the pushback of Rise of the Beasts to 2023 (unless they still plan to put out the ROTB toyline this year and I just missed that news).ZeroWolf wrote:To be fair, ss86 only existed because of a decision to put beasts in the third part of WfC
Posted by Nemesis Primal on January 16th, 2022 @ 9:17pm CST
TFW article from today says the RotB toyline still releases in April, dunno if that info has reached these parts yet.Sabrblade wrote:And I'd be willing to bet that it wasn't originally supposed to continue after Kingdom ended, but that had to in order to pad out Studio Series in general to keep it going for another year due to the pushback of Rise of the Beasts to 2023 (unless they still plan to put out the ROTB toyline this year and I just missed that news).ZeroWolf wrote:To be fair, ss86 only existed because of a decision to put beasts in the third part of WfC
1. Both WFC and SS86 have figures that have more or less "'greebling" and/or blast effect parts than their compatriots. Scourge has both, the Dinobots have both, Jazz has "greebling", the Galvatron you say follows the "SS86 aesthetic" has the battle damage paint apps from Siege and "greebling", even Wreck-Gar has some "greebling", just a low amount.Sowndwave76 wrote:But besides ports/pegs, there is a different aesthetic. Period.
But anyone who wants to deny this… I truly don’t know how or why.
2. We've been blatantly told that WFC and SS86 supplement each other and/or were the same line originally, they wouldn't be designing with a different aesthetic in mind if that was the case (and we know they take unified design aesthetics seriously based on Legacy Bulkhead & Arcee).
3. Coronation Starscream wouldn't be an ER Screamer reuse if there was a different aesthetic.
Posted by Sowndwave76 on January 16th, 2022 @ 9:40pm CST
1. Both WFC and SS86 have figures that have more or less "'greebling" and/or blast effect parts than their compatriots. Scourge has both, the Dinobots have both, Jazz has "greebling", the Galvatron you say follows the "SS86 aesthetic" has the battle damage paint apps from Siege and "greebling", even Wreck-Gar has some "greebling", just a low amount.Nemesis Primal"
[quote="Sowndwave76 wrote:But besides ports/pegs, there is a different aesthetic. Period.
But anyone who wants to deny this… I truly don’t know how or why.
2. We've been blatantly told that WFC and SS86 supplement each other and/or were the same line originally, they wouldn't be designing with a different aesthetic in mind if that was the case (and we know they take unified design aesthetics seriously based on Legacy Bulkhead & Arcee).
3. Coronation Starscream wouldn't be an ER Screamer reuse if there was a different aesthetic.[/quote]
I mentioned the Dinobots & why figures that large would have more molded detail.
Jazz doesn’t have the greebling that Siege figures do.
And I was specifically talking about molding, not paint apps.
Which I wouldn doubt if that was a last minute add-on.
I’m betting SS was supposed to be slightly retooled… Which there was a photo or two floating around where he had altered parts; I think it was legs.
But your post is exactly what I’m talking about.
Saying Scourge doesn’t have a different aesthetic from Siege/ER figures…
I guess we’ll agree to disagree…
But wow.
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on January 16th, 2022 @ 10:04pm CST
Did anyone take notice of the detail on Scourge I brought up, or did it get buried under Sowndwave's whinging and the Junkyard discussion?
Posted by Nemesis Primal on January 16th, 2022 @ 10:18pm CST
I just went upstairs, grabbed Kingdom Jackpot (since he was closer than Jazz), SS86 Sweep, and Siege Shockwave (sans armor) and came back. The only "difference in aesthetics" I see here is the fact that 2/3 of them are based off Diaclone designs and the other is a Floro Dery design (and Shockwave has battle damage paint on his feet, but you said you're ignoring that), same amount of molded "greebling" on all of them. They could have put these figures out at the same time and I would absolutely believe they were from the same line.Sowndwave76 wrote:I mentioned the Dinobots & why figures that large would have more molded detail.
Jazz doesn’t have the greebling that Siege figures do.
And I was specifically talking about molding, not paint apps.
Which I wouldn doubt if that was a last minute add-on.
I’m betting SS was supposed to be slightly retooled… Which there was a photo or two floating around where he had altered parts; I think it was legs.
But your post is exactly what I’m talking about.
Saying Scourge doesn’t have a different aesthetic from Siege/ER figures…
I guess we’ll agree to disagree…
This is also the first I've heard of these alleged remolded Starscream legs, do you know where those photos are still?
And your argument for why large figures have more detailing is..."because they're larger". If there really was some different aesthetic they were dedicated to for this line, why would that matter?
This is my reaction every time you bring this theory/argument of yours up, so on that we agree.Sowndwave76 wrote:But wow.
I saw the detailing you mentioned when I looked at my Sweep, and I agree that it is similar to those Cybertron lads, but I don't know that it's a close enough resemblance to indicate anything in regards to new figures of them. I'm kinda wondering if maybe that part is going to be painted as a cockpit window on the rumored Alpha Trion retool, honestly.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Did anyone take notice of the detail on Scourge I brought up, or did it get buried under Sowndwave's whinging and the Junkyard discussion?
I also really want Generations updates of both the Armada and Cybertron Sideways designs though, so I'm purposefully trying to not be excited by this possibility so I can't be disappointed later.
Posted by Emerje on January 17th, 2022 @ 2:00am CST
If I didn't know better I'd guess that Cyclonus was the more screen accurate SS figure. Imagine that.
Emerje
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on January 17th, 2022 @ 2:42am CST
Given the track record of such updates thus far, odds are good you'd be disappointed even if it happened Especially if the C-Sideways update was largely just the Scourge mold with his head and color scheme.Nemesis Primal wrote:I saw the detailing you mentioned when I looked at my Sweep, and I agree that it is similar to those Cybertron lads, but I don't know that it's a close enough resemblance to indicate anything in regards to new figures of them. I'm kinda wondering if maybe that part is going to be painted as a cockpit window on the rumored Alpha Trion retool, honestly.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Did anyone take notice of the detail on Scourge I brought up, or did it get buried under Sowndwave's whinging and the Junkyard discussion?
I also really want Generations updates of both the Armada and Cybertron Sideways designs though, so I'm purposefully trying to not be excited by this possibility so I can't be disappointed later.
Of course, given the connection between G1 Scourge and the Cybertron Sideways mold (courtesy of the "Wings of Honor" BotCon figures), the detail might indicate a pending release of the mold in the WoH Sweep colors (probably in the Buzzworthy line):
Posted by Nemesis Primal on January 17th, 2022 @ 3:09am CST
Entirely possible, although I am the kind of weirdo that actively likes/enjoys Siege Galaxy Prime and Selects Hot Shot (partly since I never had the originals to compare to, despite wanting them) as well as Kingdom Cheetor's altered design, and is excited for Legacy Arcee and Bulkhead (although I admit Bulk's proportions are eh), so my taste in terms of how accurate updates need to be clearly is....questionable compared to the standards of a lot of the others here.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Given the track record of such updates thus far, odds are good you'd be disappointed even if it happened Especially if the C-Sideways update was largely just the Scourge mold with his head and color scheme.