First Review of Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader Starscream
Tuesday, June 30th, 2015 7:45PM CDT
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Take it away Chuck!
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Bow down to the King! Ever since Leader Thundercracker was revealed fans were waiting for the inevitable Starscream repaint. Finally in the twilight of the Combiner Wars 2015 line here it is, complete with crown. For those new to this Jetfire retool (like me) there's a new head, chest, weapons, and wings. For me the main selling point was the crown, I just love how a small piece of TF history has been able to hold on through the years. Definitely worth a pick up.
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Posted by Hellscream9999 on June 30th, 2015 @ 7:56pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 30th, 2015 @ 8:02pm CDT
Posted by thanos13omega on June 30th, 2015 @ 10:10pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on June 30th, 2015 @ 11:49pm CDT
thanos13omega wrote:Holy already empty wallet batman! I have jetfire, and wasn't really planning on getting these(seekers) but i am a sucker for the jets. The only things i would have like are; hide the wheels on the legs with out the armor and the one time "chrome would have been good was on that crown but no we got a jetfire with it? And for the price point we should see chrome and the "jet pack"
It's true that replacing the mask and jetpack with the crown and null rays seem like a cheapo trade-off. I don't mind the no-chrome, but it would have been really appreciated on the crown.
I would really have liked to see how Screamers look with the armor bits. Leaving this step out was a lazy disservice.
Posted by fenrir72 on July 1st, 2015 @ 12:02am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:thanos13omega wrote:Holy already empty wallet batman! I have jetfire, and wasn't really planning on getting these(seekers) but i am a sucker for the jets. The only things i would have like are; hide the wheels on the legs with out the armor and the one time "chrome would have been good was on that crown but no we got a jetfire with it? And for the price point we should see chrome and the "jet pack"
It's true that replacing the mask and jetpack with the crown and null rays seem like a cheapo trade-off. I don't mind the no-chrome, but it would have been really appreciated on the crown.
I would really have liked to see how Screamers look with the armor bits. Leaving this step out was a lazy disservice.
I guess the cost of the remolded head, shoulder pads and wing retool plus colors offset the fast pack and chrome?
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 1st, 2015 @ 12:07am CDT
fenrir72 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:thanos13omega wrote:Holy already empty wallet batman! I have jetfire, and wasn't really planning on getting these(seekers) but i am a sucker for the jets. The only things i would have like are; hide the wheels on the legs with out the armor and the one time "chrome would have been good was on that crown but no we got a jetfire with it? And for the price point we should see chrome and the "jet pack"
It's true that replacing the mask and jetpack with the crown and null rays seem like a cheapo trade-off. I don't mind the no-chrome, but it would have been really appreciated on the crown.
I would really have liked to see how Screamers look with the armor bits. Leaving this step out was a lazy disservice.
I guess the cost of the remolded head, shoulder pads and wing retool plus colors offset the fast pack and chrome?
Can't be that. I call greed.
Case in point, FOC Jazz VS FOC Sideswipe. Jazz came first, with a lone itsy bitsy tiny gun. Sideswipe was a repaint remold of Jazz, with the head and part of the vehicle remolded. He came with a HUGE-ASS cannon.
Posted by fenrir72 on July 1st, 2015 @ 12:28am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:fenrir72 wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:thanos13omega wrote:Holy already empty wallet batman! I have jetfire, and wasn't really planning on getting these(seekers) but i am a sucker for the jets. The only things i would have like are; hide the wheels on the legs with out the armor and the one time "chrome would have been good was on that crown but no we got a jetfire with it? And for the price point we should see chrome and the "jet pack"
It's true that replacing the mask and jetpack with the crown and null rays seem like a cheapo trade-off. I don't mind the no-chrome, but it would have been really appreciated on the crown.
I would really have liked to see how Screamers look with the armor bits. Leaving this step out was a lazy disservice.
I guess the cost of the remolded head, shoulder pads and wing retool plus colors offset the fast pack and chrome?
Can't be that. I call greed.
Case in point, FOC Jazz VS FOC Sideswipe. Jazz came first, with a lone itsy bitsy tiny gun. Sideswipe was a repaint remold of Jazz, with the head and part of the vehicle remolded. He came with a HUGE-ASS cannon.
Kinda late but, never ralized that as I didn't get too much into FOC. Gaack! That Jazz sure sucked spheroids! Sideswipe somewhat bearable.
Posted by william-james88 on July 1st, 2015 @ 12:31am CDT
Anyways...
I think it was Chuck that said that it was too bad all the seekers had the same head. Well I am happy becuase last time they decided to make Starscream have a different head than his fellow seekers, it was for the worse:
So hellscream999, would you rather have that seeker head over this one?
Posted by Hellscream9999 on July 1st, 2015 @ 1:04am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Could it be they didnt put the chrome because the last time they did, all the fans started whining? Takara always had chrome on their version and people bought them for the superior deco. Hasbro tries once and "Aint G1, look at Takara, they know what's up, screw Hasbro". So Hasbro said f#$k it, and now here we are without chrome, thanks!
Anyways...
I think it was Chuck that said that it was too bad all the seekers had the same head. Well I am happy becuase last time they decided to make Starscream have a different head than his fellow seekers, it was for the worse:
So hellscream9999, would you rather have that seeker head over this one?
Well, if you really want to know, I think most starscream head designs suck; I really liked Cybertron Starscreams head design if I remember correctly. Prime came pretty close, but that may have more to do with how emotive it was and how it fit the design and scting style of his character in relation to his body design. I honestly don't mind the alternity design too much, then again, I also sought out Injector at botcon this year, after wanting him my whole life, so take of it what you will.
I will say that Prime soundwave had the best head design, very fitting to his character and very intimidating
Posted by william-james88 on July 1st, 2015 @ 1:10am CDT
Posted by Hellscream9999 on July 1st, 2015 @ 1:13am CDT
william-james88 wrote:I did want to know, thanks for Sharing! And yeah, Galaxy Force's Starscream was SWEET! For me, my favourite seeker head is the alternity one on Thundercracker and Skywarp (and Banzaitron).
It is really nice, haven't decided whether it works for them, its distinctive, yet they really seem to own it, like an edgy update on their original design
I think the WfC and FoC design nails it, come think on it; but there was something about the simple design of the G1 character... the simple face sorta hid him, like a facade of false intentions, or something.
Posted by Zeedust on July 1st, 2015 @ 1:17am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:Case in point, FOC Jazz VS FOC Sideswipe. Jazz came first, with a lone itsy bitsy tiny gun. Sideswipe was a repaint remold of Jazz, with the head and part of the vehicle remolded. He came with a HUGE-ASS cannon.
For what it's worth, FoC Sideswipe was about the time the price of Deluxes went up.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 1st, 2015 @ 1:19am CDT
How bout the head of this Starscream?Hellscream9999 wrote:Well, if you really want to know, I think most starscream head designs suck; I really liked Cybertron Starscreams head design if I remember correctly. Prime came pretty close, but that may have more to do with how emotive it was and how it fit the design and scting style of his character in relation to his body design. I honestly don't mind the alternity design too much, then again, I also sought out Injector at botcon this year, after wanting him my whole life, so take of it what you will.
I will say that Prime soundwave had the best head design, very fitting to his character and very intimidating
Posted by william-james88 on July 1st, 2015 @ 1:26am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on July 1st, 2015 @ 1:28am CDT
And G2 Smokescreen. And RobotMasters Smokesniper.william-james88 wrote:Is it the same as Smokejumper?
Posted by Hellscream9999 on July 1st, 2015 @ 1:29am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:And G2 Smokescreen. And RobotMasters Smokesniper.william-james88 wrote:Is it the same as Smokejumper?
BEST NAME EVAR
I give my CW skydive silverbolts big rifle and call him Smokesniper
Posted by Hellscream9999 on July 1st, 2015 @ 1:31am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:How bout the head of this Starscream?Hellscream9999 wrote:Well, if you really want to know, I think most starscream head designs suck; I really liked Cybertron Starscreams head design if I remember correctly. Prime came pretty close, but that may have more to do with how emotive it was and how it fit the design and scting style of his character in relation to his body design. I honestly don't mind the alternity design too much, then again, I also sought out Injector at botcon this year, after wanting him my whole life, so take of it what you will.
I will say that Prime soundwave had the best head design, very fitting to his character and very intimidating
I'm not against it, but there's something integral to starscreams character and role, that demands he have a full face and be able to pull off a range of complex emotions or something, I dunno
Posted by Hellscream9999 on July 1st, 2015 @ 1:35am CDT
william-james88 wrote:I did want to know, thanks for Sharing! And yeah, Galaxy Force's Starscream was SWEET! For me, my favourite seeker head is the alternity one on Thundercracker and Skywarp (and Banzaitron).
I bet that banzaitron would be a more satisfying experience than the rotf one
After searching for it for literally months and finding the only one I ever saw...
F#$&ing thumbs
F*$k that design
Posted by Sabrblade on July 1st, 2015 @ 1:35am CDT
*shrug* He did get a new one:Hellscream9999 wrote:I'm not against it, but there's something integral to starscreams character and role, that demands he have a full face and be able to pull off a range of complex emotions or something, I dunno
Posted by Hellscream9999 on July 1st, 2015 @ 1:37am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:*shrug* He did get a new one:Hellscream9999 wrote:I'm not against it, but there's something integral to starscreams character and role, that demands he have a full face and be able to pull off a range of complex emotions or something, I dunno
Lol, I have that guy; yeah, I don't know any fiction -except the exerpt from the graphic novel, but it could have worked by reflecting his new character; didn't he get a mental work-over due to that new form?
Posted by Sabrblade on July 1st, 2015 @ 1:40am CDT
Haven't watched all of Beast Wars Second yet (still waiting for Karyuudo Fansubs to release their subbed version) so I'm uncertain.Hellscream9999 wrote:Lol, I have that guy; yeah, I don't know any fiction -except the exerpt from the graphic novel, but it could have worked by reflecting his new character; didn't he get a mental work-over due to that new form?
Posted by Hellscream9999 on July 1st, 2015 @ 1:43am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Having watched all of Beast Wars Second yet (still waiting for Karyuudo Fansubs to release their subbed version) so I'm uncertain.Hellscream9999 wrote:Lol, I have that guy; yeah, I don't know any fiction -except the exerpt from the graphic novel, but it could have worked by reflecting his new character; didn't he get a mental work-over due to that new form?
Yeah, I just checked, it basically ramped up his persona really hard. He loathes his beast mode and just wants everyone to die, so I think his new face reflects his mental shift
Posted by Sabrblade on July 1st, 2015 @ 1:46am CDT
Ack! There's a typo in my post that changes its meaning completely! "Having" should have been "Haven't".Hellscream9999 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Having watched all of Beast Wars Second yet (still waiting for Karyuudo Fansubs to release their subbed version) so I'm uncertain.Hellscream9999 wrote:Lol, I have that guy; yeah, I don't know any fiction -except the exerpt from the graphic novel, but it could have worked by reflecting his new character; didn't he get a mental work-over due to that new form?
Yeah, I just checked, it basically ramped up his persona really hard. He loathes his beast mode and just wants everyone to die, so I think his new face reflects his mental shift
Posted by Hellscream9999 on July 1st, 2015 @ 1:47am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Ack! There's a typo in my post that changes its meaning completely! "Having" should have been "Haven't".Hellscream9999 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Having watched all of Beast Wars Second yet (still waiting for Karyuudo Fansubs to release their subbed version) so I'm uncertain.Hellscream9999 wrote:Lol, I have that guy; yeah, I don't know any fiction -except the exerpt from the graphic novel, but it could have worked by reflecting his new character; didn't he get a mental work-over due to that new form?
Yeah, I just checked, it basically ramped up his persona really hard. He loathes his beast mode and just wants everyone to die, so I think his new face reflects his mental shift
Yeah, I figured that's what you meant
Posted by Likeits1985 on July 1st, 2015 @ 1:47am CDT
Chuckdawg must be friends with someone who manages this website. His videos frequently get published on this website before well known TF reviewers on YouTube.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on July 1st, 2015 @ 1:50am CDT
Likeits1985 wrote:
Chuckdawg must be friends with someone who manages this website. His videos frequently get published on this website before well known TF reviewers on YouTube.
To be fair, ANY reviewer that gets a hot-topic figure way before it's release gets a mention. benscollectibles had devs, balt had the minicons, and chuck got starscream; sorry no conspiracy here, try again for a zeni?
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 1st, 2015 @ 8:27am CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:Case in point, FOC Jazz VS FOC Sideswipe. Jazz came first, with a lone itsy bitsy tiny gun. Sideswipe was a repaint remold of Jazz, with the head and part of the vehicle remolded. He came with a HUGE-ASS cannon.
About that time, ALL the FoC guys started coming with huge ass guns. Look at the combaticons v. the wreckers. now those are some guns!
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 1st, 2015 @ 8:28am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Could it be they didnt put the chrome because the last time they did, all the fans started whining? Takara always had chrome on their version and people bought them for the superior deco. Hasbro tries once and "Aint G1, look at Takara, they know what's up, screw Hasbro". So Hasbro said f#$k it, and now here we are without chrome, thanks!
Anyways...
I think it was Chuck that said that it was too bad all the seekers had the same head. Well I am happy becuase last time they decided to make Starscream have a different head than his fellow seekers, it was for the worse:
So hellscream999, would you rather have that seeker head over this one?
Those are some ugly heads, all 3 of them. yeah there is a difference in Starscream, but they all suck, so it's even.
I liked the FoC and Prime head sculpts. those were nice ones. Really good with the character too
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 1st, 2015 @ 8:29am CDT
How bout the head of this Starscream?Sabrblade wrote:
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THAT Starscream is Badass! That is a good look for the leader of the seekers!
And Prime Soundwave had an amazing head. That guy had a head and face worthy of the character
Posted by william-james88 on July 1st, 2015 @ 9:41am CDT
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:THAT Starscream is Badass! That is a good look for the leader of the seekers!
And Prime Soundwave had an amazing head. That guy had a head and face worthy of the character
That version is a bit too small for my taste to be considered such an imposing figure.
The Galaxyforce Voyager is to me the the version that looks most like a leader.
Hellscream9999 wrote:Likeits1985 wrote:
Chuckdawg must be friends with someone who manages this website. His videos frequently get published on this website before well known TF reviewers on YouTube.
To be fair, ANY reviewer that gets a hot-topic figure way before it's release gets a mention. benscollectibles had devs, balt had the minicons, and chuck got starscream; sorry no conspiracy here, try again for a zeni?
Also Likeits1985, Chuck was the first one to reach us with a review of that toy. No one else did. If ever you find a review of a new figure we havent newsed yet, please use the link in my signature to contact us. Chuck did and thus he gets the front page First come first served.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 1st, 2015 @ 10:25am CDT
Though, in reality, he is quite flamboyant and effeminate.D-Maximus_Prime wrote:THAT Starscream is Badass! That is a good look for the leader of the seekers!
Posted by jay5 on July 1st, 2015 @ 11:10am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Though, in reality, he is quite flam[b]oyant and effeminate.D-Maximus_Prime wrote:THAT Starscream is Badass! That is a good look for the leader of the seekers!
I don't know that I'd go that far unless you have something to back it up beyond what could just be an ill-timed screenshot.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 1st, 2015 @ 12:52pm CDT
jay5 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Though, in reality, he is quite flam[b]oyant and effeminate.D-Maximus_Prime wrote:THAT Starscream is Badass! That is a good look for the leader of the seekers!
I don't know that I'd go that far unless you have something to back it up beyond what could just be an ill-timed screenshot.
Boo. He needs his Prime personality with that body.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on July 3rd, 2015 @ 12:38am CDT
william-james88 wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:THAT Starscream is Badass! That is a good look for the leader of the seekers!
And Prime Soundwave had an amazing head. That guy had a head and face worthy of the character
That version is a bit too small for my taste to be considered such an imposing figure.
The Galaxyforce Voyager is to me the the version that looks most like a leader.Hellscream9999 wrote:Likeits1985 wrote:
Chuckdawg must be friends with someone who manages this website. His videos frequently get published on this website before well known TF reviewers on YouTube.
To be fair, ANY reviewer that gets a hot-topic figure way before it's release gets a mention. benscollectibles had devs, balt had the minicons, and chuck got starscream; sorry no conspiracy here, try again for a zeni?
Also Likeits1985, Chuck was the first one to reach us with a review of that toy. No one else did. If ever you find a review of a new figure we havent newsed yet, please use the link in my signature to contact us. Chuck did and thus he gets the front page First come first served.
Exactly. Say are you Burn, Vaal, and the guys coming to over for my BBQ this weekend?
Posted by william-james88 on July 3rd, 2015 @ 1:49am CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:
Exactly. Say are you Burn, Vaal, and the guys coming to over for my BBQ this weekend?
Don't know, I was gonna use that bribe money inheritance from my estranged uncle to take my wife to the spa as a week-end getaway. But I could always do that the week-end after.
Posted by Burn on July 3rd, 2015 @ 2:23am CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:william-james88 wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:THAT Starscream is Badass! That is a good look for the leader of the seekers!
And Prime Soundwave had an amazing head. That guy had a head and face worthy of the character
That version is a bit too small for my taste to be considered such an imposing figure.
The Galaxyforce Voyager is to me the the version that looks most like a leader.Hellscream9999 wrote:Likeits1985 wrote:
Chuckdawg must be friends with someone who manages this website. His videos frequently get published on this website before well known TF reviewers on YouTube.
To be fair, ANY reviewer that gets a hot-topic figure way before it's release gets a mention. benscollectibles had devs, balt had the minicons, and chuck got starscream; sorry no conspiracy here, try again for a zeni?
Also Likeits1985, Chuck was the first one to reach us with a review of that toy. No one else did. If ever you find a review of a new figure we havent newsed yet, please use the link in my signature to contact us. Chuck did and thus he gets the front page First come first served.
Exactly. Say are you Burn, Vaal, and the guys coming to over for my BBQ this weekend?
Clearly my invite got lost in the mail, or you just didn't send it.
Asshole.
Probably one of those Va'al Fanboys.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on July 3rd, 2015 @ 10:09pm CDT
Burn wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:william-james88 wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:THAT Starscream is Badass! That is a good look for the leader of the seekers!
And Prime Soundwave had an amazing head. That guy had a head and face worthy of the character
That version is a bit too small for my taste to be considered such an imposing figure.
The Galaxyforce Voyager is to me the the version that looks most like a leader.Hellscream9999 wrote:Likeits1985 wrote:
Chuckdawg must be friends with someone who manages this website. His videos frequently get published on this website before well known TF reviewers on YouTube.
To be fair, ANY reviewer that gets a hot-topic figure way before it's release gets a mention. benscollectibles had devs, balt had the minicons, and chuck got starscream; sorry no conspiracy here, try again for a zeni?
Also Likeits1985, Chuck was the first one to reach us with a review of that toy. No one else did. If ever you find a review of a new figure we havent newsed yet, please use the link in my signature to contact us. Chuck did and thus he gets the front page First come first served.
Exactly. Say are you Burn, Vaal, and the guys coming to over for my BBQ this weekend?
Clearly my invite got lost in the mail, or you just didn't send it.
****.
Probably one of those Va'al Fanboys.
I love you all equally, you know that. By the way, Starscreams chest is the face of an Angry Bird. Once you see it, it can't be unseen. You're welcome.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on July 7th, 2015 @ 7:13am CDT
Posted by Genericon #378 on July 7th, 2015 @ 8:17am CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:I'm waiting on the Sunstorm repaint of the CW Leader seeker. Yes, I know I'm in the extreme minority.
I'm waiting for the Acid Storm repaint. I'm not the only one, right?
Posted by King Kuuga on July 7th, 2015 @ 3:41pm CDT
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Posted by shajaki on July 22nd, 2015 @ 1:51pm CDT
Posted by no-one on July 22nd, 2015 @ 3:43pm CDT
shajaki wrote:So, I really dig Leader TC. But something was bugging me. You're supposed to see the top side of his wings in bot mode, and that bit of red really helps breaking up ALL that blue. So I unscrewed the wings and switched them around! It doesn't really compromise anything and they can easily be flipped back. But since I plan to display the Leader Seekers in bot mode I'll do this to all them and leave them like that. I really like the results
That looks really great.
Posted by Crimson Prime on July 26th, 2015 @ 7:54pm CDT
carytheone wrote:shajaki wrote:So, I really dig Leader TC. But something was bugging me. You're supposed to see the top side of his wings in bot mode, and that bit of red really helps breaking up ALL that blue. So I unscrewed the wings and switched them around! It doesn't really compromise anything and they can easily be flipped back. But since I plan to display the Leader Seekers in bot mode I'll do this to all them and leave them like that. I really like the results
That looks really great.
Seconded, great idea, I might end up doing the same when they appear in Australia.
Posted by LegendaryAntiHero on July 28th, 2015 @ 6:10pm CDT
carytheone wrote:shajaki wrote:So, I really dig Leader TC. But something was bugging me. You're supposed to see the top side of his wings in bot mode, and that bit of red really helps breaking up ALL that blue. So I unscrewed the wings and switched them around! It doesn't really compromise anything and they can easily be flipped back. But since I plan to display the Leader Seekers in bot mode I'll do this to all them and leave them like that. I really like the results
That looks really great.
I agree. I should try it sometime
Posted by galvatron00 on July 29th, 2015 @ 7:16am CDT
Ya did a good jorb Shaj! Looks more like what we are used to with the seekerscarytheone wrote:That looks really great.shajaki wrote:So, I really dig Leader TC. But something was bugging me. You're supposed to see the top side of his wings in bot mode, and that bit of red really helps breaking up ALL that blue. So I unscrewed the wings and switched them around! It doesn't really compromise anything and they can easily be flipped back. But since I plan to display the Leader Seekers in bot mode I'll do this to all them and leave them like that. I really like the results
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 29th, 2015 @ 12:59pm CDT
itscramtastic wrote:Ya did a good jorb Shaj! Looks more like what we are used to with the seekerscarytheone wrote:That looks really great.shajaki wrote:So, I really dig Leader TC. But something was bugging me. You're supposed to see the top side of his wings in bot mode, and that bit of red really helps breaking up ALL that blue. So I unscrewed the wings and switched them around! It doesn't really compromise anything and they can easily be flipped back. But since I plan to display the Leader Seekers in bot mode I'll do this to all them and leave them like that. I really like the results
Approved Great discovery man!
Posted by Agamemnon on August 18th, 2015 @ 8:57pm CDT