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Was there a confirmation of the "regular" Off-Road Patrol Release? Is this 10pk release the *recolors* before the official release?

Flashwave wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

SpikeyTigertron wrote:Oddly enough I still feel the combined devastator scales about right too; at least as imposing as he was in siege on Autobot City on the movie

See, I've been telling people (and have had many agree) that Devastator and Predaking are proper Combiner scale, and the other combiners are too small. It's why I've had zero issues with either, they are perfectly sized.

I really wish the next Commander would be Thunderwing, but alas, I think it will be Sky Lynx, a shuttle to go with a spaceship sort of thing

Yes, Titan Devastator and Predaking are definitely Generations Siege scale. And for the Combiner Wars ones to be in proper scale, they should be titan too. At least in combined mode. However, having voyager scaled CARS and bikes wouldn't make any sense.

As for a proper MP scaled Devastator, each components should be at least MP-10 sise and cost nearly 200$ each. Making for an over 1000$US combiner of epic proportions.
Next HasLab project, perhaps?

While I dovthinkvthe CW combiners are a tad small, I like the size theu are close to compared to the Titans because of this:

400px-Predakingg1.jpg

Some of it os proportion, and again the CW Combiner aare a tad small even for this, , but Predaking is HUGE compared to Superion and Defensor

That illustration was done by someone who was going off the G1 toys side by side without factoring in how underscale the other G1 combiner toys were. Like, the Constructicons and the "Scramble City" types (especially the limbs) are shrimpy even next to their fellow Diaclone-originating robots; the Structies and the Scramble City limbs are practically Legion-class toys and look tiny even next to the likes of G1 Mirage and Bluestreak. Whereas the G1 Predacon toys were made in the same robot mode scale as Hot Rod, Kup, et al.

CW Devastator and PotP Predaking are, in combined form, indeed in perfect cartoon scale with regular size figures. However, the tradeoff for this is that the individual Constructicons and Predacons are not, especially the Structies; the cartoon's conceit of combiners swelling up to larger than the sum of their parts is to blame. The standard CW and PotP Combiners are the converse; their individual members are in scale with their peers, but the combined form lacks the daikaiju size from the cartoon (although it's still hefty and towering). It does make one miss the Legion size class for G1 characters; that would resolve things nicely. Well, that and having Supreme/Commander-size Devy and Predaking (Especially Devy, he battled other combiners more than Predaking did; I mean, who can forget "Bruticus devastate Devastator!"?) to scale with the other combiners.

Regarding the Commander class... It had better NOT be Sky Lynx. Thanks to Predaking being done as a Titan-class toy, Sky Lynx (his main rival) absolutely has to be one as well. I still personally think it could be a downsized Omega Supreme (most likely in Guardian Robot colors if so). That would complement Omega Supreme by being a smaller version that scaled better with regular CW and PotP combiners.

SpikeyTigertron wrote:Was there a confirmation of the "regular" Off-Road Patrol Release? Is this 10pk release the *recolors* before the official release?

Not yet, for some reason they're pushed back to Wave 4 with Barricade, Mirage and Impactor, even though their numbering places them in Wave 3. Redecos/Retools released before the main retail original has happened before mind you. Speaking of which, they're actually redecos of retools. Sound confusing?

Irontread is based on Ironworks, but the new parts are inspired by Monster Truck Patrol member Big Hauler. Ricon is an all-new character (though he reminded me of Tote), but the new parts follow fellow Patrol Member Hydraulic's design:


Transformers G1 1990 Big Hauler Gallery


Transformers G1 1990 Hydraulic Gallery

Expect them in the next part

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

SpikeyTigertron wrote:Was there a confirmation of the "regular" Off-Road Patrol Release? Is this 10pk release the *recolors* before the official release?

Not yet, for some reason they're pushed back to Wave 4 with Barricade, Mirage and Impactor, even though their numbering places them in Wave 3. Redecos/Retools released before the main retail original has happened before mind you. Speaking of which, they're actually redecos of retools. Sound confusing?

Irontread is based on Ironworks, but the new parts are inspired by Monster Truck Patrol member Big Hauler. Ricon is an all-new character (though he reminded me of Tote), but the new parts follow fellow Patrol Member Hydraulic's design:


Transformers G1 1990 Big Hauler Gallery


Transformers G1 1990 Hydraulic Gallery

Expect them in the next part

I thought they looked familiar... couldn't put my finger on it. Looking back at my original collection (thorugh memory) I somehow only have "half" of some of my patrols... wonder if friends over the years wandered off with some.

I really hope we get the hot rod patrol.

also regarding: "It does make one miss the Legion size class for G1 characters; that would resolve things nicely."-Flashwave


I completely agree! I was recently just looking at my legion Seekers and wondering where a lot of the others went (really makes me regret missing a lot of the Movieverse legions (Guzzle and some of others have gotten $$). Mostly just because they're continuing the "all-in" on the "cybertron city" it'd be nice to have everyone to that scale. Even if it technically violates the whole point of "micro masters".


Kind of makes me wonder if they might do Select reissues of some of the leaders like Twin Cast or.... fire Guts God Genrai (or Nucleon quest would be a winner)

I would also love if they maybe considered a new class/product for micromaster bases, even if it's the smaller playsets versus the Rocket Base.

Though the PotP leaders seemed to be the best way to tackle that.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

SpikeyTigertron wrote:I would also love if they maybe considered a new class/product for micromaster bases, even if it's the smaller playsets versus the Rocket Base.

Though the PotP leaders seemed to be the best way to tackle that.

I think you mean Titans Return The munky, the trukk, and the Rodebago lack real base modes

Oh, true! Though Primal I think is Titan Master compatible? I think I've seen some fan modes of the "evolutions" prime with a "base mode" Though even the TR Power Master base was a bit rough... I'm glad that Omega's tracks have "raised" connections points, since TR PM Prime's base seems to prefer elevated connectors.

I think we're more likely to see leader Class molds of both Star Saber and Deathsarus, based on the plans Hasbro had for the PotP poll. I also can't see them doing a downsized Omega, unless it's a new mold which has Omega turning into the Ark the key here is scale since the designers seem so beholden to it.

Actually I can see Star Saber as a commander class but only has a two pack with voyager Victory Lio

-Kanrabat- wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I think we're more likely to see leader Class molds of both Star Saber and Deathsarus, based on the plans Hasbro had for the PotP poll. I also can't see them doing a downsized Omega, unless it's a new mold which has Omega turning into the Ark the key here is scale since the designers seem so beholden to it.

Actually I can see Star Saber as a commander class but only has a two pack with voyager Victory Lio

A 2 pack with a leader Victory Saber and a voyager Victory Leo could be nice. However, in G1 and the toon, Leo was as big as Saber. So TWO leaders sold separately would be the best option. And if it's 2 leaders a case, a case of one Saber and one Leo would be the way to distribute them.

True, I forgot about robot mode scale Leader Class would be best then.

Nah they had plans for leader Class star Saber, and the lines gimmick is set to change with the new part debuting next year, the tentative "Armageddon". Thundercrash would be awesome but the best to hope for might be an inclusion in the Commander Class (leader and trailer)

I still say, next commander class will be the Robosmasher.