New Galleries: Robots In Disguise Tiny Titans

Now that we've seen all the new characters in their Tiny Titans form including, Bisk, Thunderhoof, Hammerstrike, Prowl, and Cliffjumper, will we ever see the Warrior-class figures for all of these characters given above? Don't forget, Steeljaw is the only Decepticon so far that already has a W arrior figure. Therefore, please don't tell us we'll never get a Warrior-class figures for all these brand-new characters, just because kids do hate the Decepticons and love all the Autobots. Because I tell you that almost every single kid really do enjoyed all of these figures, no matter if they are Autobots or Decepticons.

Prowl and Cliffjumper are just the G1 versions. Prowl's gray is likely due to his toy being gang-molded with Bumblebee, Underbite, and Grimlock, with the intention of probably having his body painted white like how Bee's got yellow paint, but it didn't happen for some reason.

As for the rest, Optimus, Bisk, Sideswipe, and Cliffjumper all seem gang-molded in red, while Strongarm, Steeljaw, Thunderhoof, and Hammerstrike all look gang-molded in blue.

That tiny Bisk is adorable. Don't like the other ones.

Minimal paint apps, no articulation, awkward poses... not much to like about these. These make the Robot Heroes line look like Masterpieces by comparison.

Sabrblade wrote:Prowl and Cliffjumper are just the G1 versions. Prowl's gray is likely due to his toy being gang-molded with Bumblebee, Underbite, and Grimlock, with the intention of probably having his body painted white like how Bee's got yellow paint, but it didn't happen for some reason.

As for the rest, Optimus, Bisk, Sideswipe, and Cliffjumper all seem gang-molded in red, while Strongarm, Steeljaw, Thunderhoof, and Hammerstrike all look gang-molded in blue.

Got you covered in the galleries already from when I noticed this while working on the galleries, Sabrblade!

GuyIncognito wrote:Minimal paint apps, no articulation, awkward poses... not much to like about these. These make the Robot Heroes line look like Masterpieces by comparison.

Not to mention their size!

Sabrblade wrote:Prowl and Cliffjumper are just the G1 versions.

What makes you so sure about that? Why would they draw them in the style of RID instead of just reuse existing artwork? Killing Cliffjumper was a stupid move in TFP. I'm sure it gets undone at some point or they just toss continuity out the window, which has already happened with this "Aligned" continuity.

Seibertron wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Prowl and Cliffjumper are just the G1 versions.

What makes you so sure about that? Why would they draw them in the style of RID instead of just reuse existing artwork? Killing Cliffjumper was a stupid move in TFP. I'm sure it gets undone at some point or they just toss continuity out the window, which has already happened with this "Aligned" continuity.

Pretty sure they killed him just so the viewers would understand that the Decepticons were a threat, to the point where even the faceless lackeys were about to finish off Bumblebee and Arcee before Bulkhead showed up.

Then that AAAALLLLL went out the window too, to the point where Bumblebee and Arcee could mow through 50 Vehicons without effort and Starscream became a whiny coward.

They also might have just killed Cliffjumper because The Rock is an expensive actor. It's like he charges per-word he speaks unless it's a movie deal.

Am I the only one who's reminded of a certain BotCon figures with one of these titans?

Seibertron wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Prowl and Cliffjumper are just the G1 versions.

What makes you so sure about that? Why would they draw them in the style of RID instead of just reuse existing artwork? Killing Cliffjumper was a stupid move in TFP. I'm sure it gets undone at some point or they just toss continuity out the window, which has already happened with this "Aligned" continuity.

For all we know Cliffjumper could be just someone Optimus runs into during his mission in the afterlife and perhaps team up with each other for a while. It's a possible idea so why don't we see if Cliff manages to appear on the show at all first?

Not that anything is impossible with this stuff, but I feel like it is a bit much to design RiD versions of Prowl and Cliffjumper and there not be a point to it. Here's hoping there's a point to it.

I guess for me it doesn't matter from a toy/collecting perspective as all I purchase is Masterpiece figures, anymore. Over the years I've made kind of a mess of things collecting Prowls and Magnuses, so when there's a new one shown I at least look at them.

sol magnus wrote:Not that anything is impossible with this stuff, but I feel like it is a bit much to design RiD versions of Prowl and Cliffjumper and there not be a point to it. Here's hoping there's a point to it.

I guess for me it doesn't matter from a toy/collecting perspective as all I purchase is Masterpiece figures, anymore. Over the years I've made kind of a mess of things collecting Prowls and Magnuses, so when there's a new one shown I at least look at them.

As much as I doubt it, I do wish in my heart of hearts that Prowl could make an appearance. I've always liked his look in spite of his tendency towards prickishness in recent media. Maybe as Strongarm's senior officer/instructor who she looks up to more than Bee?

I doubt this Cliffy means anything to Prime CJ and his death. I'm with whoever has said it's just a G1 Cliffy thrown into this line because why not, rather than that he's gonna actually be in the new RID (assuming RID actually is a real followup to Prime).

Aligned doesn't really mean anything, no matter what Hasbro may have claimed (or how TFwiki might try to categorize the characters). It's as pointless to try and reconcile stuff like Prime with WFC as it is to try and reconcile G1 with (the original) RID or any other two disparate universes. Hell, it's hard enough to try and get the three UT series to fit, but aligned, nope, no way. Just some marketing gobbledygook that somehow got outta hand.

Seibertron wrote:

GuyIncognito wrote:Minimal paint apps, no articulation, awkward poses... not much to like about these. These make the Robot Heroes line look like Masterpieces by comparison.

Not to mention their size!

Heh, I've got a Prowl eraser somewhere (I think I got it Christmas 84... holy shit 30 years ago...) that's larger and more detailed than these.

And if they had to mold Prowl out of gray plastic, probably should have made him Bluestreak.

Optimum Supreme wrote:I doubt this Cliffy means anything to Prime CJ and his death. I'm with whoever has said it's just a G1 Cliffy thrown into this line because why not, rather than that he's gonna actually be in the new RID (assuming RID actually is a real followup to Prime).

Aligned doesn't really mean anything, no matter what Hasbro may have claimed (or how TFwiki might try to categorize the characters). It's as pointless to try and reconcile stuff like Prime with WFC as it is to try and reconcile G1 with (the original) RID or any other two disparate universes. Hell, it's hard enough to try and get the three UT series to fit, but aligned, nope, no way. Just some marketing gobbledygook that somehow got outta hand.

I'm right there with you. I think it's silly that they even tried to tie what was obviously a G1 expansion story (or reinterpretation) with Transformers Prime. It has felt extremely forced since the moment they said something along the lines of "hey, chocolate chip cookies are great dipped in IPA Beer!" No thanks! I really wish they had worked with IDW to have the WFC/FOC games tie-in with the IDW comics instead. The aesthetics and personalities and history of the characters would have flowed much better if they had just ironed out the details instead of forcing Transformers Prime onto WFC/FOC.

Hell, they couldn't even really keep Rescue Bots as part of the main Transformers Prime continuity without really squinting your eyes after a few drinks and pretend a lot.

I called BS when they first announced that TFP, Rescue Bots and WFC were part of the same continuity. They can try all they want, but it just doesn't work at the end of the day. More so because of Hasbro ... storytelling and congruent continuity just isn't their specialty. Making toys and marketing is their specialty. Trying to keep all of these different facets of the Transformers brand congruent amongst changing employees and rapidly changing brand strategies a midst fierce competition is difficult. I commend them for trying, but wish they'd stick to what they do best.

On the flipside though, this reminds me of the various G1 micro-continuities that exist with the Find Your Own Adventure books, the kiddie-Marvel Books, the Marvel US Transformers comics, the Marvel UK Transformers comics, the G1 cartoon, and so on. At the end of the day, as much as we want to think Transformers is the greatest thing since sliced bread, any books, comics, cartoons, game, etc serve one sole purpose with Transformers and that is to sell more toys. Bottom line, end of story. Anything else that we get, as much as we try to believe it to be something greater, is just to fulfill that purpose. As soon as the toys die out, just like they did in the early 90s, the media facets and expanded universe type things that we get will die out as well.

On that note, I simply try to just enjoy whatever iterations that we have of the Transformers, regardless if it fits perfectly into any one overall continuity. I would rather have had WFC, Rescue Bots and Transformers Prime just been there own thing. If fans draw connections on their own, that's one thing, but to have Hasbro say "they're all part of the same continuity", that's where I'm calling BS because they didn't do that with G1, but we're fine with just taking it or leaving it with that stuff.

Seibertron wrote:

Optimum Supreme wrote:I doubt this Cliffy means anything to Prime CJ and his death. I'm with whoever has said it's just a G1 Cliffy thrown into this line because why not, rather than that he's gonna actually be in the new RID (assuming RID actually is a real followup to Prime).

Aligned doesn't really mean anything, no matter what Hasbro may have claimed (or how TFwiki might try to categorize the characters). It's as pointless to try and reconcile stuff like Prime with WFC as it is to try and reconcile G1 with (the original) RID or any other two disparate universes. Hell, it's hard enough to try and get the three UT series to fit, but aligned, nope, no way. Just some marketing gobbledygook that somehow got outta hand.

I'm right there with you. I think it's silly that they even tried to tie what was obviously a G1 expansion story (or reinterpretation) with Transformers Prime. It has felt extremely forced since the moment they said something along the lines of "hey, chocolate chip cookies are great dipped in IPA Beer!" No thanks! I really wish they had worked with IDW to have the WFC/FOC games tie-in with the IDW comics instead. The aesthetics and personalities and history of the characters would have flowed much better if they had just ironed out the details instead of forcing Transformers Prime onto WFC/FOC.

At this point, I think we can really take or leave the Aligned model. Aside from Cliff's horns and Bee's disappearing voice, there's very little to connect the games to Prime.

Shuttershock wrote:At this point, I think we can really take or leave the Aligned model. Aside from Cliff's horns and Bee's disappearing voice, there's very little to connect the games to Prime.

Uh...

Sabrblade wrote:

Shuttershock wrote:At this point, I think we can really take or leave the Aligned model. Aside from Cliff's horns and Bee's disappearing voice, there's very little to connect the games to Prime.

Uh...

Like he said, there's very little to connect the games to Prime. That series seemed extremely forced. Now, had Arcee, Prime or any of the other characters appeared in that series alongside the Dinobots and had one of the Dinobots (namely Grimlock) had gone on to season 3 to battle Predaking, it'd be a different story and I'd be commending them for the effort. But without that, this just ranks slightly above fan-fiction in my book.

Sabrblade wrote:

Shuttershock wrote:At this point, I think we can really take or leave the Aligned model. Aside from Cliff's horns and Bee's disappearing voice, there's very little to connect the games to Prime.

Uh...

Show me the Dinobots IN a Prime episode and that has bearing with me.

It's Hasbro's fault for granting so much leeway and creative freedom to each individual branch instead of picking one design aesthetic and asking each branch to kindly stick to that.

But hey, just goes to show how little Hasbro cares about visual consistency compared to how much the fans do.

At least they all got Cybertron's Core and the Nemesis looking them same across the board:






It's obvious that they wanted them to all be the same story, but the variety of looks have put off many to the very idea.

And yet, Beast Machines and G1 have staggeringly different aesthetics yet so many will argue to the grave that those two are connected.

From a storytelling perspective, it was a bad idea for Hasbro to first give us WFC and then Prime immediately after. Doing that was the equivalent of watching Beast Machines immediately after the first three episodes of G1.

If they could just publish that Binder of Revelation of theirs (cuz that Covenant of Primus book was hardly an acceptable substitute), fans could consider that the true canon of Aligned and discard all other games, books, cartoons, comics, etc. (WFC/FOC and Prime included in that mass discarding).