Official Decals Revealed for Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Wave 3,4 and Devastator

Saw this on Facebook the other day. those stickers do wonders!

In a piece of good news out there for Combiner Wars fans, it looks like the combiner hip design found on Wave 1's Optimus Prime and Wave 2's Motormaster torsos, which didn't allow a squared hip pose in the Combiner mode, has been corrected with the release of Wave 4's Battle Core Optimus Prime. I received my BC Prime today from Amazon, and grabbed some pictures of this design change to help explain what you can expect if you pick this figure up.

First, the original issue:

The hip assembly on Optimus Prime and Motormaster don't allow Menasor and a Combiner using the Optimus Prime torso to stand straight legged when the hip panels are locked into place. You can see that Optimus Maximus, on the right, is able to stand in a straight legged pose with no issues, even with the hip panels locked in.


Here I've illustrated the same thing with just Menasor and Optimus Maximus.

Attempting to bend Menasors hip inwards, while leaving the hip lock intact, leads to imbalance as well. Battle Core Optimus Prime also holds on to Legends Rodimus much more securely than Motormaster or Optimus Prime can, though I can't find any obvious engineering reason for it.

If we look at just the torsos, it highlights the issue with the initial runs of this mold. And yes, I need to clean my table. I'll bring my dog over to your living room and we'll see how long yours stays clean


The problem here clearly comes down to the hips of the Voyager torso itself. This mold has angled feet, so the individual robot mode really wasn't intended to stand hips-squared, but the original Optimus Prime usage of it and the subsequent Motormaster release both allow this.

Upon opening up the hips, you can see this pretty clearly. This is the default position of the hip ratchet when you open the figures, with Battle Core Optimus Prime on the left and the original Optimus on the right. It isn't extremely obvious here what they did to fix it. They couldn't have just changed the position, because then mere clicks one way or another on the original mold would solve the problem. What did they do?


See it yet? Don't count teeth, it won't help.


As you can see in the pictures above, this single piece is the change. By shifting the gear teeth by half a tooth, the Combiner that you can build with the figure can now give you a tall, proud, standing-up-straight pose.

With Motormaster scheduled to be re-released in Wave 4, will a running change be made to him as well to allow for sturdier Menasors? You know, there's hope in not knowing If you do get a Motormaster out of this wave's case assortment, give it a look and be sure to let our News Team know if this fix has been applied to his re-release as well.

Do you guys think that they will make a CW Sideswipe using the Breakdown mold in order to be the twin of Sunstreaker?

joeprime276 wrote:Do you guys think that they will make a CW Sideswipe using the Breakdown mold in order to be the twin of Sunstreaker?

In the back of the comic that came with Sunstreaker they show the yellow body with what appears to be Sideswipes head. Food for thought; we know there's a Ratchet coming and they might follow the Generations beat and release Tracks as a re-tool of Wheeljack, add in Sideswipe and you have three limbs in place for another torso.

I really didn't want to buy battle Core Optimus, I really didn't, I... Guaranteed delivery September 1st

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Good to see a fix. I still will not get him, but at least he is fixed. I may get a second mm if the hips are fixed in him though

Umm... you could always try Hasbro customer service and tell them your MM has problems with his hips and is defective. And then ask them if you could send it back to them. They will then tell you if they have any of your item left. They usually dont and you are sent something totally random. BUT in this case, we know that they have a new batch of MMs, so they could say they can make the exchange. If so, then you get an upgraded MM for free.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

joeprime276 wrote:Do you guys think that they will make a CW Sideswipe using the Breakdown mold in order to be the twin of Sunstreaker?

In the back of the comic that came with Sunstreaker they show the yellow body with what appears to be Sideswipes head. Food for thought; we know there's a Ratchet coming and they might follow the Generations beat and release Tracks as a re-tool of Wheeljack, add in Sideswipe and you have three limbs in place for another torso.

I really didn't want to buy battle Core Optimus, I really didn't, I... Guaranteed delivery September 1st

Who said there was going to be a ratchet?

And so help me, if this ends up being true, and we get another '84 team...

ScottyP wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Good to see a fix. I still will not get him, but at least he is fixed. I may get a second mm if the hips are fixed in him though

Umm... you could always try Hasbro customer service and tell them your MM has problems with his hips and is defective. And then ask them if you could send it back to them. They will then tell you if they have any of your item left. They usually dont and you are sent something totally random. BUT in this case, we know that they have a new batch of MMs, so they could say they can make the exchange. If so, then you get an upgraded MM for free.

Do not do this. Very good chance you'll end up with something like an AOE Voyager. Not worth it.

My advice was not to do it but to attempt it. Hasbro will say if they have the figure he needs before he sends his over to them.

Shockwave7 wrote:Neat pictoral of the MM/Prime hip issues. Is there any chance at all we could just ask Hasbro to mail out replacement ratchets? I'm sure enterprising owners would undertake the labor to fix the hips themselves. Heck, I'd pay five bucks or so just to get a couple new ratchets with the fix applied....

Or maybe the folks who are making those 3D printed hand and feet replacements for the CW combiners could be given the specs for the fixed versions of those ratchet teeth wheels and start printing out some of those to sell...

nonnef already has them ready to be shipped. vangeleus has also reviewed them, and I have heard nothing but positive things about it on the nonnef tfw thread; check 'em out

http://www.nonnef.com/collections/combiner-wars-upgrades/products/combiner-wars-hip-ratchet-upgrade

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

ScottyP wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Good to see a fix. I still will not get him, but at least he is fixed. I may get a second mm if the hips are fixed in him though

Umm... you could always try Hasbro customer service and tell them your MM has problems with his hips and is defective. And then ask them if you could send it back to them. They will then tell you if they have any of your item left. They usually dont and you are sent something totally random. BUT in this case, we know that they have a new batch of MMs, so they could say they can make the exchange. If so, then you get an upgraded MM for free.

Do not do this. Very good chance you'll end up with something like an AOE Voyager. Not worth it.

My advice was not to do it but to attempt it. Hasbro will say if they have the figure he needs before he sends his over to them.

Nah, I don't want to do this whole online over the mail return and exchange thing. No one in my family has had that end well. I can live with my MM, and if the new one is fixed, ill use him for combined mode and the other will be a stand alone

You should at least consider it. I sent a rusty hotspot back and got 2 in return

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

joeprime276 wrote:Do you guys think that they will make a CW Sideswipe using the Breakdown mold in order to be the twin of Sunstreaker?

In the back of the comic that came with Sunstreaker they show the yellow body with what appears to be Sideswipes head. Food for thought; we know there's a Ratchet coming and they might follow the Generations beat and release Tracks as a re-tool of Wheeljack, add in Sideswipe and you have three limbs in place for another torso.

I really didn't want to buy battle Core Optimus, I really didn't, I... Guaranteed delivery September 1st

Who said there was going to be a ratchet?

And so help me, if this ends up being true, and we get another '84 team...

Back of First Aid's comic showed the mold with a Ratchet head.

Stuartmaximus wrote:You didn't need to! you could've just painted the standard one white.

Yeah but I wouldn't have the new hip ratchets.

Well, that's not confirmation, and F$%k it if it is, I am in no need for more 's when there are to be had; I would however get the ratchet mold because the first-aid mold makes for exceptional limbs

And really if you need hip ratchets, check out nonnefs store page; we really need a nonnef thread, like tfw