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Possible new BotCon 2015 Transformers based on Generations Waspinator

Posted by william-james88 May 19, 2015 at 5:49pm CDT 26,945 views
Fellow Seibertronian superstar Sabreblade has found this very odd listing on Taobao, a Chinese online shopping site. The listing is said to be for "IDW Transformers Classics Bumblebee Warriors Botcon2015 4 color" and features four different redecos of Generations Waspinator. The title does hint that these may be planned in conjunction to Botcon 2015, possibly as troop building toys. After all, we know a Waspinator mold (albeit not this one) is appearing in the latest Botcon comic page.




Sabrblade had the following to say about these possible releases:

The leftmost one is based on Fox Kids Transmetal Waspinator (thus making him a dead ringer for Shattered Glass Waspinator).

The second-left one is based on the unreleased Universe (2003) "Halloween Horrorcon Value Pack" Waspinator.

The two on the right, however, have decos that aren't as obvious.


these Waspinators might all be Waruder mechs for the pilots, with the black paint on each of their backs supposedly representing cockpits.

The only counter I can see to this suggestion is that the Diaclone line didn't have any Waruder mech toys in any of these decos, but it's still possible that these could be a new kind of Waruder mech.

EDIT: Now the theory includes the suggestion of the red Waspy being based on this - http://www.robot-japan.com/gallery/item/warudaros-3.html


Also, a closer look at the four reveals that they're missing their robot mode heads (see the empty cavity behind each's beast mode head).
Possible new BotCon 2015 Transformers based on Generations Waspinator
Possible new BotCon 2015 Transformers based on Generations Waspinator

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Re: Possible new BotCon 2015 Transformers based on Generations Waspinator (view post)
Comment by Autobot_Crossfire May 19, 2015
Meh, probably the Virulent clones or something. :CON:
Re: Possible new BotCon 2015 Transformers based on Generations Waspinator (view post)
Comment by primalxconvoy May 19, 2015
My, my, what's this? Diaclone and Waspinators coming to Botcon this year?

I LOVE being right about these things.
Re: Possible new BotCon 2015 Transformers based on Generations Waspinator (view post)
Comment by Jelze Bunnycat May 19, 2015
primalxconvoy wrote:My, my, what's this? Diaclone and Waspinators coming to Botcon this year?

I LOVE being right about these things.


Any sources on that you little sneak?
Re: Possible new BotCon 2015 Transformers based on Generations Waspinator (view post)
Comment by primalxconvoy May 19, 2015
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:My, my, what's this? Diaclone and Waspinators coming to Botcon this year?

I LOVE being right about these things.


Any sources on that you little sneak?


Friends of friends, and all that... ;)
Re: Possible new BotCon 2015 Transformers based on Generations Waspinator (view post)
Comment by Jelze Bunnycat May 19, 2015
primalxconvoy wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:My, my, what's this? Diaclone and Waspinators coming to Botcon this year?

I LOVE being right about these things.


Any sources on that you little sneak?


Friends of friends, and all that... ;)


Insider info, huh? Figures ;)
Re: Possible new BotCon 2015 Transformers based on Generations Waspinator (view post)
Comment by Sabrblade May 19, 2015
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:My, my, what's this? Diaclone and Waspinators coming to Botcon this year?

I LOVE being right about these things.


Any sources on that you little sneak?
The red Waspy's thought to be a Warudaros homage.
Re: Possible new BotCon 2015 Transformers based on Generations Waspinator (view post)
Comment by Rated X May 19, 2015
Easy pass on the waspinators.
Re: Possible new BotCon 2015 Transformers based on Generations Waspinator (view post)
Comment by Inaction May 19, 2015
Sabrblade wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:My, my, what's this? Diaclone and Waspinators coming to Botcon this year?

I LOVE being right about these things.


Any sources on that you little sneak?
The red Waspy's thought to be a Warudaros homage.

I thought that was more of a deco based on the first Transmetal Wasp from '98?
Re: Possible new BotCon 2015 Transformers based on Generations Waspinator (view post)
Comment by Sabrblade May 19, 2015
Inaction wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:My, my, what's this? Diaclone and Waspinators coming to Botcon this year?

I LOVE being right about these things.


Any sources on that you little sneak?
The red Waspy's thought to be a Warudaros homage.

I thought that was more of a deco based on the first Transmetal Wasp from '98?
TM Waspy was predominately black, gold, and green with red and blue as secondary colors. This one is predominately red with black and blue as secondary colors and no green or gold.
Re: Possible new BotCon 2015 Transformers based on Generations Waspinator (view post)
Comment by Jelze Bunnycat May 19, 2015
If they really are based on Diaclone's Warudaros, here are some names to look out for:

- Wargon (from Kronoform, the same line that gave the Dashers their names)
- Siclonoid (from Grandstand's Convertors)
Re: Possible new BotCon 2015 Transformers based on Generations Waspinator (view post)
Comment by MGrotusque May 19, 2015
I like those colors. Especially the pink and white one.
Re: Possible new BotCon 2015 Transformers based on Generations Waspinator (view post)
Comment by Sabrblade May 19, 2015
primalxconvoy wrote:For me, the main colour for TM Waspy is red:

- http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/thu ... -TMtoy.jpg
The main body and all its core aspects are black, though, with red only being on extended parts. This new figure is primarily red-bodied.

If they wanted to do a homage to the Transmetal, then they would have done a more direct homage like they did with the first two homaging the Fox Kids Transmetal and the Universe Halloween Horrorcon Transmetal.

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Gold and green are very much important colors on the original Transmetal, while there is none on the red Waspy.
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Re: Possible new BotCon 2015 Transformers based on Generations Waspinator (view post)
Comment by MGrotusque May 19, 2015
I'd scoop up this set in a hot second if the price is right. The more i look at em the more i like them all. They did a good job.

I'd like to see pics in bot mode.

An after thought. I'd also like to see this mold get a Repugnus colorways. Either in the universe colours or G1.
Re: Possible new BotCon 2015 Transformers based on Generations Waspinator (view post)
Comment by primalxconvoy May 19, 2015
@Sabrblade

I think it's just case of a best fit, due to the limitations of the paint maps, and the inability to add chrome on just one of several toys (too expensive).

I'm fairly sure it's still a transmetal homage.

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Comment by MaverickPrime May 19, 2015
Huh, these look nice! I wonder what the red one is homaging :-?
Re: Possible new BotCon 2015 Transformers based on Generations Waspinator (view post)
Comment by Sabrblade May 19, 2015
primalxconvoy wrote:@Sabrblade

I think it's just case of a best fit, due to the limitations of the paint maps, and the inability to add chrome on just one of several toys (too expensive).
What limitations? The Generations mold's bug legs and antennae are on the same sprue, and the robot forearms can seemingly be whatever color they want to be, so those parts could have easily been red. The bug head and body share a sprue, so those could have been black. And the inner body plastic and shoulders could have also been black. The bug abdomen could have been gold (chrome isn't necessary, but these days the Club is using more and more chrome). And the wings could have been green. Not to mention the Club's penchant for elaborate paint apps. If they wanted to make a homage to the Transmetal, there was very little in their way to have stopped them from doing so.
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Comment by Sabrblade May 19, 2015
MaverickPrime wrote:Huh, these look nice! I wonder what the red one is homaging :-?
The current theory is that these (or at least the red one) are Waruder mechs operated by pilots made from the Legends Chop Shop mold, with the red one based specifically on the deco of the Diaclone Warudaros figure.

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Also note that these four are all missing their robot heads.

Looks like those who keep asking for more Diaclone-based CHUGs might be getting much more than they wished for this year.
Re: Possible new BotCon 2015 Transformers based on Generations Waspinator (view post)
Comment by SW's SilverHammer May 19, 2015
Sabrblade wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:@Sabrblade

I think it's just case of a best fit, due to the limitations of the paint maps, and the inability to add chrome on just one of several toys (too expensive).
What limitations? The Generations mold's bug legs and antennae are on the same sprue, and the robot forearms can seemingly be whatever color they want to be, so those parts could have easily been red. The bug head and body share a sprue, so those could have been black. And the inner body plastic and shoulders could have also been black. The bug abdomen could have been gold (chrome isn't necessary, but these days the Club is using more and more chrome). And the wings could have been green. Not to mention the Club's penchant for elaborate paint apps. If they wanted to make a homage to the Transmetal, there was very little in their way to have stopped them from doing so.

He says he has inside sources, he might be right.
Re: Possible new BotCon 2015 Transformers based on Generations Waspinator (view post)
Comment by Rated X May 19, 2015
Such a shame they didnt retool the head and make him Venom. We got the other three, and it would be nice to finally finish the set with Venom.
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