Possible new BotCon 2015 Transformers based on Generations Waspinator

Meh, probably the Virulent clones or something.

My, my, what's this? Diaclone and Waspinators coming to Botcon this year?

I LOVE being right about these things.

primalxconvoy wrote:My, my, what's this? Diaclone and Waspinators coming to Botcon this year?

I LOVE being right about these things.

Any sources on that you little sneak?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:My, my, what's this? Diaclone and Waspinators coming to Botcon this year?

I LOVE being right about these things.

Any sources on that you little sneak?

Friends of friends, and all that...

primalxconvoy wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:My, my, what's this? Diaclone and Waspinators coming to Botcon this year?

I LOVE being right about these things.

Any sources on that you little sneak?

Friends of friends, and all that...

Insider info, huh? Figures

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:My, my, what's this? Diaclone and Waspinators coming to Botcon this year?

I LOVE being right about these things.

Any sources on that you little sneak?

The red Waspy's thought to be a Warudaros homage.

Easy pass on the waspinators.

Sabrblade wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:My, my, what's this? Diaclone and Waspinators coming to Botcon this year?

I LOVE being right about these things.

Any sources on that you little sneak?

The red Waspy's thought to be a Warudaros homage.

I thought that was more of a deco based on the first Transmetal Wasp from '98?

Inaction wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:My, my, what's this? Diaclone and Waspinators coming to Botcon this year?

I LOVE being right about these things.

Any sources on that you little sneak?

The red Waspy's thought to be a Warudaros homage.

I thought that was more of a deco based on the first Transmetal Wasp from '98?

TM Waspy was predominately black, gold, and green with red and blue as secondary colors. This one is predominately red with black and blue as secondary colors and no green or gold.

For me, the main colour for TM Waspy is red:

- http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/thu ... -TMtoy.jpg

If they really are based on Diaclone's Warudaros, here are some names to look out for:

- Wargon (from Kronoform, the same line that gave the Dashers their names)
- Siclonoid (from Grandstand's Convertors)

I like those colors. Especially the pink and white one.

primalxconvoy wrote:For me, the main colour for TM Waspy is red:

- http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/thu ... -TMtoy.jpg

The main body and all its core aspects are black, though, with red only being on extended parts. This new figure is primarily red-bodied.

If they wanted to do a homage to the Transmetal, then they would have done a more direct homage like they did with the first two homaging the Fox Kids Transmetal and the Universe Halloween Horrorcon Transmetal.





Gold and green are very much important colors on the original Transmetal, while there is none on the red Waspy.

I'd scoop up this set in a hot second if the price is right. The more i look at em the more i like them all. They did a good job.

I'd like to see pics in bot mode.

An after thought. I'd also like to see this mold get a Repugnus colorways. Either in the universe colours or G1.

@Sabrblade

I think it's just case of a best fit, due to the limitations of the paint maps, and the inability to add chrome on just one of several toys (too expensive).

I'm fairly sure it's still a transmetal homage.

Huh, these look nice! I wonder what the red one is homaging

primalxconvoy wrote:@Sabrblade

I think it's just case of a best fit, due to the limitations of the paint maps, and the inability to add chrome on just one of several toys (too expensive).

What limitations? The Generations mold's bug legs and antennae are on the same sprue, and the robot forearms can seemingly be whatever color they want to be, so those parts could have easily been red. The bug head and body share a sprue, so those could have been black. And the inner body plastic and shoulders could have also been black. The bug abdomen could have been gold (chrome isn't necessary, but these days the Club is using more and more chrome). And the wings could have been green. Not to mention the Club's penchant for elaborate paint apps. If they wanted to make a homage to the Transmetal, there was very little in their way to have stopped them from doing so.

MaverickPrime wrote:Huh, these look nice! I wonder what the red one is homaging

The current theory is that these (or at least the red one) are Waruder mechs operated by pilots made from the Legends Chop Shop mold, with the red one based specifically on the deco of the Diaclone Warudaros figure.



Also note that these four are all missing their robot heads.

Looks like those who keep asking for more Diaclone-based CHUGs might be getting much more than they wished for this year.

Sabrblade wrote:

primalxconvoy wrote:@Sabrblade

I think it's just case of a best fit, due to the limitations of the paint maps, and the inability to add chrome on just one of several toys (too expensive).

What limitations? The Generations mold's bug legs and antennae are on the same sprue, and the robot forearms can seemingly be whatever color they want to be, so those parts could have easily been red. The bug head and body share a sprue, so those could have been black. And the inner body plastic and shoulders could have also been black. The bug abdomen could have been gold (chrome isn't necessary, but these days the Club is using more and more chrome). And the wings could have been green. Not to mention the Club's penchant for elaborate paint apps. If they wanted to make a homage to the Transmetal, there was very little in their way to have stopped them from doing so.

He says he has inside sources, he might be right.

Such a shame they didnt retool the head and make him Venom. We got the other three, and it would be nice to finally finish the set with Venom.

Pretty cool seeing a beast mold done in several different crazy color schemes.

Too bad the robot arms don't really hide in wasp mode, though. Looks good head on, sure, but turn that swarm 90 degrees and, well...

Rated X wrote:Such a shame they didnt retool the head and make him Venom. We got the other three, and it would be nice to finally finish the set with Venom.

All four of them are without their robot mode heads, suggesting a head remold for each of them.

Plus, I thought you said you were compelled to get all Diaclone CHUGs.

OMG Warudaros? Yes x1000

Inaction wrote:I thought that was more of a deco based on the first Transmetal Wasp from '98?

That was my immediate thought and I think it's being over-thought by others. Is the execution good? Nope, but these may not be final decos if they're random leaks, and that seemed like the obvious inspiration.

Or these are some crazy (cool, too) lunchtime specials gone wild!

ScottyP wrote:

Inaction wrote:I thought that was more of a deco based on the first Transmetal Wasp from '98?

That was my immediate thought and I think it's being over-thought by others. Is the execution good? Nope, but these may not be final decos if they're random leaks, and that seemed like the obvious inspiration.

It's just, why would they make so faithfully accurate homages to two other Transmetal mold decos that are much more obscure, and yet do so unfaithful a homage to the Transmetal mold deco that many more people remember far more prominently? It just seems like it would be such a disservice to the original Transmetal deco if that's what it was supposed to homage.

Now, on the other hand, compare the deco of the red Waspinator to that of Diaclone Warudaros:



Red overall body
Black on the upper torso surrounding dark blue details
Gray/silver shoulders, hands, and lower torso
Striped thighs (Waspinator's thighs are formed by his striped bug abdomen)
Teal/blue forearms
Dark blue translucent plastic

Sure seems like a much stronger match, especially with the prospect of the blue Chop Shop being a Waruder pilot:

Sabrblade wrote:Another batch of potential BotCon exclusives - http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.74.r9RYCh&id=45477430507



The leftmost one is based on Fox Kids Transmetal Waspinator (thus making him a dead ringer for Shattered Glass Waspinator).

The second-left one is based on the unreleased Universe (2003) "Halloween Horrorcon Value Pack" Waspinator.

The two on the right, however, have decos that aren't as obvious.

Speculating these are the Three or Four pack souvenir toys.

Think the pink and white colored one is a fembot.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Think the pink and white colored one is a fembot.

Not necessarily, I just drew a rather funny analog between Waspinator and a certain Animatronic from Five Nights at Freddy's 2 called Mangle today (page is not for the weak of heart, be warned):

- Waspinator is blown to bits and rebuilt on a regular basis, Mangle gets torn apart by kids and reassembled as part of his/her gimmick
- They're both pink and white, while the original incarnations had more realistic colors
- Disputed genders for obvious reasons

In no way does it serve as a theory for the inspiration, just a funny coincidence at best.

I wonder if the white/pink one is an homage to BotCon Arcee

OMG, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please, let this mean we're getting a Waspinator Corps!

In all seriousness, looks like SG Waspinator, Canceled Halloween Waspinator, Beast Wars Bugbite and either Inferno or Beast Wars Starscream.

BEAST WARS STARSCREAM?? Oh please let that be what he is!

You know, I just had a thought: since Thrustinator has a central role as "messenger boy" so to speak, would it make sense for him to have his own Troopers, like back in his Vehicon days? Sky-Byte had the Sharkticons, Scourge had the Sweeps, what could those Hymenoptera be called? Siclonoids?

shajaki wrote:BEAST WARS STARSCREAM?? Oh please let that be what he is!

I know right??!

Could the yellow one be Buzzsaw?

Probably not.

Ok guys, to recap:



Left: based on Fox Kids Transmetal Waspinator.

Wazzpinator be good guy for once?

2nd from left: based on canceled Universe 2003 Halloween Horrorcon

Wazzpinator can't say boo to kidzz, Wazzpinator getzz no candy!

2nd from the right: deco origin unknown, but I've personally nicknamed it "Mangle".

Right: Seemingly based on Diaclone Warudaros, aka Convertors Sicolonoid, aka Kronoform Wargon

An ant, mosquito and scorpion form this?

RiddlerJ wrote:Could the yellow one be Buzzsaw?

Probably not.

Nope, SG/Fox Kids Waspy... Buzzsaw has purple on him and no copper

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:Could the yellow one be Buzzsaw?

Probably not.

Nope, SG/Fox Kids Waspy... Buzzsaw has purple on him and no copper

Though he could be repurposed as Transmetal Buzzsaw despite the name on the toy Speaking of repurposing, that yellow Waspinator? Shattered Glass Beast Wars Waspinator

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:Could the yellow one be Buzzsaw?

Probably not.

Nope, SG/Fox Kids Waspy... Buzzsaw has purple on him and no copper

Though he could be repurposed as Transmetal Buzzsaw despite the name on the toy Speaking of repurposing, that yellow Waspinator? Shattered Glass Beast Wars Waspinator

... huh?

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:Could the yellow one be Buzzsaw?

Probably not.

Nope, SG/Fox Kids Waspy... Buzzsaw has purple on him and no copper

Though he could be repurposed as Transmetal Buzzsaw despite the name on the toy Speaking of repurposing, that yellow Waspinator? Shattered Glass Beast Wars Waspinator

... huh?

The Fox kids repaint of TM waspy could proxy as a TM Buzzsaw. Buzzsaw was just a yellow an purple repaint of the original waspinator. However the fox kids TM color scheme and mapping was used on the club's SG Beast Wars Waspinator. So effectively it's one big cyclical system of waspinator, repaints and repurposing there of.

This kinda makes me think this is going to be like that one year set of Buzzclaw redeco clones for some reason.

SW's SilverHammer wrote:

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:Could the yellow one be Buzzsaw?

Probably not.

Nope, SG/Fox Kids Waspy... Buzzsaw has purple on him and no copper

Though he could be repurposed as Transmetal Buzzsaw despite the name on the toy Speaking of repurposing, that yellow Waspinator? Shattered Glass Beast Wars Waspinator

... huh?

The Fox kids repaint of TM waspy could proxy as a TM Buzzsaw. Buzzsaw was just a yellow an purple repaint of the original waspinator. However the fox kids TM color scheme and mapping was used on the club's SG Beast Wars Waspinator. So effectively it's one big cyclical system of waspinator, repaints and repurposing there of.

I meant huh to him answering a question I just answered.

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:I meant huh to him answering a question I just answered.

JelZe is female.

Sabrblade wrote:

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:I meant huh to him answering a question I just answered.

JelZe is female.

Actually "him" is a gender neutral pronoun, it's meaning has been misconstrued over who knows how long. It's similar to "moot" even though people think it means finality, it actually means debatable.

Sabrblade wrote:

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:I meant huh to him answering a question I just answered.

JelZe is female.

*giggles* It's best to consider me gender-neutral, so both "his" and "hers" are fine, whatever you feel like. Less headaches that way.

Back to the Waspies, here's an image of the Shatted Glass BW Predacons, with a yellow Waspinator:



See why I'm saying that yellow Waspinator toy can be repurposed?

MartianSpyGirl1996 had mentioned that, though.

Sabrblade wrote:MartianSpyGirl1996 had mentioned that, though.

Bah, need to get my glasses checked...

TFW posted this possible black Generations Arcee repaint... thoughts?

Original image source here - http://tf-prototype.com/blog/2015/05/26 ... -not-miss/

It looks a LOT like her Combiner Hunters deco:



Though, if that is what this is meant to be, then it can't be a BotCon figure since BotCon doesn't do toys for things to come in future non-BotCon/non-TCC fiction.

I knew it looked familiar.

That may not be completely accurate, as people are guessing the Club will do a Nexus Prime from a CW combiner in the future, but due to Hasbro's rules it would have to be used in mass fiction (so IDW).
That's pure speculation, however.

As for Arcee, probably not a BotCon figure, but I can't see this getting a retail release either... maybe she'll come in a 3-pack with the other two fembots repainted for SDCC?

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:As for Arcee, probably not a BotCon figure, but I can't see this getting a retail release either... maybe she'll come in a 3-pack with the other two fembots repainted for SDCC?

Or a store/online exclusive like a Platinum Edition.

Sabrblade wrote:

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:As for Arcee, probably not a BotCon figure, but I can't see this getting a retail release either... maybe she'll come in a 3-pack with the other two fembots repainted for SDCC?

Or a store/online exclusive like a Platinum Edition.

True true. Either way, GIMME TEN