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News Credits: 241 · Tue May 19, 2015 6:26 pm

primalxconvoy wrote:My, my, what's this? Diaclone and Waspinators coming to Botcon this year?

I LOVE being right about these things.

Any sources on that you little sneak?

News Credits: 11 · Tue May 19, 2015 6:31 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:My, my, what's this? Diaclone and Waspinators coming to Botcon this year?

I LOVE being right about these things.

Any sources on that you little sneak?

Friends of friends, and all that...

News Credits: 241 · Tue May 19, 2015 6:36 pm

primalxconvoy wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:My, my, what's this? Diaclone and Waspinators coming to Botcon this year?

I LOVE being right about these things.

Any sources on that you little sneak?

Friends of friends, and all that...

Insider info, huh? Figures

News Credits: 462 · Tue May 19, 2015 6:47 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:My, my, what's this? Diaclone and Waspinators coming to Botcon this year?

I LOVE being right about these things.

Any sources on that you little sneak?

The red Waspy's thought to be a Warudaros homage.

Tue May 19, 2015 6:51 pm

Easy pass on the waspinators.

Tue May 19, 2015 6:56 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:My, my, what's this? Diaclone and Waspinators coming to Botcon this year?

I LOVE being right about these things.

Any sources on that you little sneak?
The red Waspy's thought to be a Warudaros homage.

I thought that was more of a deco based on the first Transmetal Wasp from '98?

News Credits: 462 · Tue May 19, 2015 6:58 pm

Inaction wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:My, my, what's this? Diaclone and Waspinators coming to Botcon this year?

I LOVE being right about these things.

Any sources on that you little sneak?
The red Waspy's thought to be a Warudaros homage.

I thought that was more of a deco based on the first Transmetal Wasp from '98?

TM Waspy was predominately black, gold, and green with red and blue as secondary colors. This one is predominately red with black and blue as secondary colors and no green or gold.

News Credits: 11 · Tue May 19, 2015 7:05 pm

For me, the main colour for TM Waspy is red:

- http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/thu ... -TMtoy.jpg

News Credits: 241 · Tue May 19, 2015 7:10 pm

If they really are based on Diaclone's Warudaros, here are some names to look out for:

- Wargon (from Kronoform, the same line that gave the Dashers their names)
- Siclonoid (from Grandstand's Convertors)

Tue May 19, 2015 7:12 pm

I like those colors. Especially the pink and white one.

News Credits: 462 · Tue May 19, 2015 7:14 pm

primalxconvoy wrote:For me, the main colour for TM Waspy is red:

- http://tfwiki.net/mediawiki/images2/thu ... -TMtoy.jpg

The main body and all its core aspects are black, though, with red only being on extended parts. This new figure is primarily red-bodied.

If they wanted to do a homage to the Transmetal, then they would have done a more direct homage like they did with the first two homaging the Fox Kids Transmetal and the Universe Halloween Horrorcon Transmetal.

Gold and green are very much important colors on the original Transmetal, while there is none on the red Waspy.

Tue May 19, 2015 7:20 pm

I'd scoop up this set in a hot second if the price is right. The more i look at em the more i like them all. They did a good job.

I'd like to see pics in bot mode.

An after thought. I'd also like to see this mold get a Repugnus colorways. Either in the universe colours or G1.

News Credits: 11 · Tue May 19, 2015 8:15 pm

@Sabrblade

I think it's just case of a best fit, due to the limitations of the paint maps, and the inability to add chrome on just one of several toys (too expensive).

I'm fairly sure it's still a transmetal homage.

News Credits: 26 · Tue May 19, 2015 8:26 pm

Huh, these look nice! I wonder what the red one is homaging :-?

News Credits: 462 · Tue May 19, 2015 8:30 pm

primalxconvoy wrote:@Sabrblade

I think it's just case of a best fit, due to the limitations of the paint maps, and the inability to add chrome on just one of several toys (too expensive).

What limitations? The Generations mold's bug legs and antennae are on the same sprue, and the robot forearms can seemingly be whatever color they want to be, so those parts could have easily been red. The bug head and body share a sprue, so those could have been black. And the inner body plastic and shoulders could have also been black. The bug abdomen could have been gold (chrome isn't necessary, but these days the Club is using more and more chrome). And the wings could have been green. Not to mention the Club's penchant for elaborate paint apps. If they wanted to make a homage to the Transmetal, there was very little in their way to have stopped them from doing so.

News Credits: 462 · Tue May 19, 2015 8:33 pm

MaverickPrime wrote:Huh, these look nice! I wonder what the red one is homaging

The current theory is that these (or at least the red one) are Waruder mechs operated by pilots made from the Legends Chop Shop mold, with the red one based specifically on the deco of the Diaclone Warudaros figure.

Also note that these four are all missing their robot heads.

Looks like those who keep asking for more Diaclone-based CHUGs might be getting much more than they wished for this year.

News Credits: 25 · Tue May 19, 2015 8:35 pm

Sabrblade wrote:
primalxconvoy wrote:@Sabrblade

I think it's just case of a best fit, due to the limitations of the paint maps, and the inability to add chrome on just one of several toys (too expensive).
What limitations? The Generations mold's bug legs and antennae are on the same sprue, and the robot forearms can seemingly be whatever color they want to be, so those parts could have easily been red. The bug head and body share a sprue, so those could have been black. And the inner body plastic and shoulders could have also been black. The bug abdomen could have been gold (chrome isn't necessary, but these days the Club is using more and more chrome). And the wings could have been green. Not to mention the Club's penchant for elaborate paint apps. If they wanted to make a homage to the Transmetal, there was very little in their way to have stopped them from doing so.

He says he has inside sources, he might be right.

Tue May 19, 2015 9:28 pm

Such a shame they didnt retool the head and make him Venom. We got the other three, and it would be nice to finally finish the set with Venom.

News Credits: 7 · Tue May 19, 2015 9:29 pm

Pretty cool seeing a beast mold done in several different crazy color schemes.

Too bad the robot arms don't really hide in wasp mode, though. Looks good head on, sure, but turn that swarm 90 degrees and, well...

News Credits: 462 · Tue May 19, 2015 9:31 pm

Rated X wrote:Such a shame they didnt retool the head and make him Venom. We got the other three, and it would be nice to finally finish the set with Venom.

All four of them are without their robot mode heads, suggesting a head remold for each of them.

Plus, I thought you said you were compelled to get all Diaclone CHUGs.

News Credits: 16 · Tue May 19, 2015 9:45 pm

OMG Warudaros? Yes x1000

News Credits: 656 · Tue May 19, 2015 9:49 pm

Inaction wrote:I thought that was more of a deco based on the first Transmetal Wasp from '98?

That was my immediate thought and I think it's being over-thought by others. Is the execution good? Nope, but these may not be final decos if they're random leaks, and that seemed like the obvious inspiration.

Or these are some crazy (cool, too) lunchtime specials gone wild!

News Credits: 462 · Tue May 19, 2015 10:13 pm

ScottyP wrote:
Inaction wrote:I thought that was more of a deco based on the first Transmetal Wasp from '98?

That was my immediate thought and I think it's being over-thought by others. Is the execution good? Nope, but these may not be final decos if they're random leaks, and that seemed like the obvious inspiration.

It's just, why would they make so faithfully accurate homages to two other Transmetal mold decos that are much more obscure, and yet do so unfaithful a homage to the Transmetal mold deco that many more people remember far more prominently? It just seems like it would be such a disservice to the original Transmetal deco if that's what it was supposed to homage.

Now, on the other hand, compare the deco of the red Waspinator to that of Diaclone Warudaros:

Red overall body
Black on the upper torso surrounding dark blue details
Gray/silver shoulders, hands, and lower torso
Striped thighs (Waspinator's thighs are formed by his striped bug abdomen)
Teal/blue forearms
Dark blue translucent plastic

Sure seems like a much stronger match, especially with the prospect of the blue Chop Shop being a Waruder pilot:

News Credits: 4 · Tue May 19, 2015 10:30 pm

Sabrblade wrote:Another batch of potential BotCon exclusives - http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.74.r9RYCh&id=45477430507

The leftmost one is based on Fox Kids Transmetal Waspinator (thus making him a dead ringer for Shattered Glass Waspinator).

The second-left one is based on the unreleased Universe (2003) "Halloween Horrorcon Value Pack" Waspinator.

The two on the right, however, have decos that aren't as obvious.

Speculating these are the Three or Four pack souvenir toys.

Think the pink and white colored one is a fembot.

News Credits: 241 · Wed May 20, 2015 7:25 am

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Think the pink and white colored one is a fembot.

Not necessarily, I just drew a rather funny analog between Waspinator and a certain Animatronic from Five Nights at Freddy's 2 called Mangle today (page is not for the weak of heart, be warned):

- Waspinator is blown to bits and rebuilt on a regular basis, Mangle gets torn apart by kids and reassembled as part of his/her gimmick
- They're both pink and white, while the original incarnations had more realistic colors
- Disputed genders for obvious reasons :lol: