The Energon Pub

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue May 26, 2015 10:06 am

Whatever this thing is, it can't be a BotCon toy since Fun Pub doesn't (can't?) do toys for future non-BotCon/non-TCC mainstream Hasbro fiction.

News Credits: 23 · by **Madeus Prime** » Tue May 26, 2015 10:22 am

Eh, cool, head looks sloppy though.

Website · by **MartianSpyGirl1996** » Tue May 26, 2015 10:22 am

Sabrblade wrote:Whatever this thing is, it can't be a BotCon toy since Fun Pub doesn't (can't?) do toys for future non-BotCon/non-TCC mainstream Hasbro fiction.

I've honestly never heard this before, and I've been going to BC since 2000. Hasbro may have had no interest in doing the IDW repaint, so TCC decided to do it instead. Pete did mention several of these figures "should have seen retail"

Madeus Prime wrote:Eh, cool, head looks sloppy though.

Blurry picture/prototype. Nothing new

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue May 26, 2015 10:44 am

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Whatever this thing is, it can't be a BotCon toy since Fun Pub doesn't (can't?) do toys for future non-BotCon/non-TCC mainstream Hasbro fiction.

I've honestly never heard this before, and I've been going to BC since 2000. Hasbro may have had no interest in doing the IDW repaint, so TCC decided to do it instead. Pete did mention several of these figures "should have seen retail"

"Should have seen retail" as in previously, not forthcoming.

At the moment, this is based on a deco that doesn't presently exist yet.

News Credits: 402 · by **Mkall** » Tue May 26, 2015 10:46 am

I've always found Black and Pink to be a very attractive combo, especially on females...

Website · by **MartianSpyGirl1996** » Tue May 26, 2015 11:12 am

Sabrblade wrote:
MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Whatever this thing is, it can't be a BotCon toy since Fun Pub doesn't (can't?) do toys for future non-BotCon/non-TCC mainstream Hasbro fiction.

I've honestly never heard this before, and I've been going to BC since 2000. Hasbro may have had no interest in doing the IDW repaint, so TCC decided to do it instead. Pete did mention several of these figures "should have seen retail"
"Should have seen retail" as in previously, not forthcoming.

At the moment, this is based on a deco that doesn't presently exist yet.

All decos are forthcoming until released... Hasbro still has the option of releasing a Packrat, but they probably have no interest which is why TCC is doing it. IDW could have decided to update Arcee, Hasbro didn't want to do it and made a suggestion to TCC. Hasbro is constantly making suggestions to them. Maybe FunPub wanted to use the Arcee mold but were struggling with decos getting approved.
I think you're splitting hairs and trying to rigidly follow a pattern when there's not really one there... just because they haven't done it previously doesn't mean they can't/won't do it in the future. Never say never.

News Credits: 3 · by **Starsaber468** » Tue May 26, 2015 11:25 am

REALLY JUST WOW I CAME UP WITH A RUMOR FOR A POSSIBLE ARCEE IN THIS COLOR SCHEEME IN THE COMBINER HUNTERS COLORS BUT NO ONE LISTENED WHY DID NO LNE CARE ABOUT THIS RUMOR THIS IS FRICKIN COMBINER HUNTERS ARCEE

News Credits: 3 · by **Starsaber468** » Tue May 26, 2015 11:28 am

Cam anyone explain why my report news thing stopped working just mad that no one cared about the rumor peace out

News Credits: 3 · by **Optimizzy** » Tue May 26, 2015 11:29 am

Arcee is changing her paint again? In fact, they ALL look different.

News Credits: 4 · by **King Kuuga** » Tue May 26, 2015 11:32 am

Has it occurred to anybody that maybe the deco of this toy came first, and they used it in Combiner Hunters as a reflection of this spiffy new toy?

by **Doubledealer93** » Tue May 26, 2015 11:40 am

nah. not interested. the paint and colors dont do the mold any favors.

News Credits: 19 · by **Carnivius_Prime** » Tue May 26, 2015 12:02 pm

Looks pretty cool. That colour scheme makes the mold look so much better (in car mode anyways. Robot needs better photos). Never cared for the marshmallow pink & white scheme.

by **TGS1985** » Tue May 26, 2015 12:13 pm

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Looks pretty cool. That colour scheme makes the mold look so much better. Never cared for the marshmallow pink & white scheme.

Agreed, especially if it's a figure related to IDW's Arcee. That said I think it be a real shame if the final product doesn't have the transformer logo under her right eye, but I have a feeling it'll be too small and detailed to do. Maybe a repolable could be made instead.

by **Moosey** » Tue May 26, 2015 12:16 pm

On the cover, that sword looks awfully similar to Grand Scourge's...

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Tue May 26, 2015 12:19 pm

Starsaber468 wrote:REALLY JUST WOW I CAME UP WITH A RUMOR FOR A POSSIBLE ARCEE IN THIS COLOR SCHEEME IN THE COMBINER HUNTERS COLORS BUT NO ONE LISTENED WHY DID NO LNE CARE ABOUT THIS RUMOR THIS IS FRICKIN COMBINER HUNTERS ARCEE

As it was shown on the cover, it wasn't really news-worthy as a rumor, as any toy design in any media that suddenly has a different deco is fair game to be turned into a toy.
For the next time you submit news, include a source even if it a rumor. That source is proof of the news or can be used as a basis for that rumor. Hearsay (like "my friend told this") doesn't usually cut it.

That Bot wrote:Has it occurred to anybody that maybe the deco of this toy came first, and they used it in Combiner Hunters as a reflection of this spiffy new toy?

That's usually the case with toys, as the comics are made to advertise them.

As for this being a BotCon item, I don't think so. The fact this deco will appear in the IDW comics in a main role says enough, as I've yet to see post-2004 BotCon toys get that sort of treatment.

News Credits: 13 · by **OptimalOptimus2** » Tue May 26, 2015 12:40 pm

This vehicle mode is awesome. Just take my money! :HEADHURTS:

News Credits: 456 · by **Sabrblade** » Tue May 26, 2015 12:55 pm

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Whatever this thing is, it can't be a BotCon toy since Fun Pub doesn't (can't?) do toys for future non-BotCon/non-TCC mainstream Hasbro fiction.

I've honestly never heard this before, and I've been going to BC since 2000. Hasbro may have had no interest in doing the IDW repaint, so TCC decided to do it instead. Pete did mention several of these figures "should have seen retail"
"Should have seen retail" as in previously, not forthcoming.

At the moment, this is based on a deco that doesn't presently exist yet.

All decos are forthcoming until released... Hasbro still has the option of releasing a Packrat, but they probably have no interest which is why TCC is doing it. IDW could have decided to update Arcee, Hasbro didn't want to do it and made a suggestion to TCC. Hasbro is constantly making suggestions to them. Maybe FunPub wanted to use the Arcee mold but were struggling with decos getting approved.
I think you're splitting hairs and trying to rigidly follow a pattern when there's not really one there... just because they haven't done it previously doesn't mean they can't/won't do it in the future. Never say never.

There also the notion that it's too early for Fun Pub to use the Arcee mold. It just came out a few months ago at the end of last year, and they can't use new molds until they're at least close to a year old.

News Credits: 4 · by **King Kuuga** » Tue May 26, 2015 12:59 pm

I think the rule is more like "when Hasbro and Takara have no immediate plans to use the mold during the time FunPub would be using it". We've gotten less than a year turnarounds.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Tue May 26, 2015 1:02 pm

That Bot wrote:I think the rule is more like "when Hasbro and Takara have no immediate plans to use the mold during the time FunPub would be using it". We've gotten less than a year turnarounds.

That's a more exact way of putting it, but they did admit that using Prime Dreadwing for 2013 Megaplex was a last-minute break.

News Credits: 25 · by **SW's SilverHammer** » Tue May 26, 2015 1:13 pm

Didn't either Sabreblade or Jelze make a post about the club using molds this recent. Like the post was along the lines of "If it's a generations figure, the club can't use it until an unspecified time later" or something, then Pete@botcon posted the "not exactly" clip from independence day.

News Credits: 241 · by **Jelze Bunnycat** » Tue May 26, 2015 1:18 pm

SW's SilverHammer wrote:Didn't either Sabreblade or Jelze make a post about the club using molds this recent. Like the post was along the lines of "If it's a generations figure, the club can't use it until an unspecified time later" or something, then Pete@botcon posted the "not exactly" clip from independence day.

That would be me :oops:

Bottom line is, it seems, it has to fit in the production planning between Hasbro, TakaraTomy, and FunPub. I wonder if there are any special arrangements between the three. :-?

At any rate, all of the Thrilling 30 molds should be cleared for use by FunPub, but for the reasons stated in previous posts, I still don't think that black Arcee is BotCon material.

News Credits: 6 · by **Dr. Caelus** » Tue May 26, 2015 1:22 pm

I say it's teasing something that will be revealed at Botcon - the 2016 Deluxe Generations line, which one presumes will be including both combining and non-combining figures. I'd expect to Botcon to reveal the Combaticons in all their combining glory, run alongside a non-combining revamp of Windblade (assuming she doesn't get Voyager class treatment late next year) and a new Tigatron.

News Credits: 25 · by **SW's SilverHammer** » Tue May 26, 2015 1:30 pm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
SW's SilverHammer wrote:Didn't either Sabreblade or Jelze make a post about the club using molds this recent. Like the post was along the lines of "If it's a generations figure, the club can't use it until an unspecified time later" or something, then Pete@botcon posted the "not exactly" clip from independence day.

That would be me

Bottom line is, it seems, it has to fit in the production planning between Hasbro, TakaraTomy, and FunPub. I wonder if there are any special arrangements between the three.

At any rate, all of the Thrilling 30 molds should be cleared for use by FunPub, but for the reasons stated in previous posts, I still don't think that black Arcee is BotCon material.

It'd be funny if Hasbro in an attempt to make funpub closer to them, or drum up more support for the club, gave them the use of the combiner hunters gals. I doubt it, but it'd be hilarious just for the prospect of "get them only at Botcon" or getting them once a year for three years as incentive figures. It'd be one of the moments for the club and Hasbro where it's like:

Oh and also, they wouldn't be their IDW counterparts, it'd be something like Arcee is from a parallel IDW universe where the 3H wreckers comics happen and this her all gothy instead of spider-y. Or it's SG yandere windblade, and her bodyguard an alternative chromia that's based on her cameo early on in IDW.