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Rise of the Beasts Official Bios Mention Multiverse and Time Travel
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Comment by Nexus Knight
May 12, 2023
I'm honestly confused by the negativity to a movie not yet released. You go to the YT comments on these trailers (a place that platform creators will be quick to tell you is filled with negativity), and there's so much excitement. First of all, lets be honest, the '86 movie was really not the best quality, but it's remembered by how fun it was. We got burned by the live action movies, yes, but look at Bumblebee. Look at the creator's attitudes. They same to have at least understood the complaints about the robots not getting the focus. And the CGI and action look so much better via the trailers than what we've gotten before. I am so excited to see this movie, as a Beast Wars fan, as a Transformers fan. This may not be the best, but it looks like it'll at least be fun.
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Comment by Stormshot_Prime
May 13, 2023
Looks like The Shroud is coming undone! Sorry Nexus!
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Youtube is the internet as a whole, and full of paid shills, studio employees, and bots. This forum is dedicated fans, many of whom have followed the franchise since it's beginning.
Glowing, anonymous, generic reviews on a public platform do not guarantee ticket sales and butts in theater seats or a good movie on the screen.
Comment by Brokebot
May 13, 2023
Nexus Knight wrote:I'm honestly confused by the negativity to a movie not yet released. You go to the YT comments on these trailers (a place that platform creators will be quick to tell you is filled with negativity), and there's so much excitement. First of all, lets be honest, the '86 movie was really not the best quality, but it's remembered by how fun it was. We got burned by the live action movies, yes, but look at Bumblebee. Look at the creator's attitudes. They same to have at least understood the complaints about the robots not getting the focus. And the CGI and action look so much better via the trailers than what we've gotten before. I am so excited to see this movie, as a Beast Wars fan, as a Transformers fan. This may not be the best, but it looks like it'll at least be fun.
Youtube is the internet as a whole, and full of paid shills, studio employees, and bots. This forum is dedicated fans, many of whom have followed the franchise since it's beginning.
Glowing, anonymous, generic reviews on a public platform do not guarantee ticket sales and butts in theater seats or a good movie on the screen.
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Comment by EvasionModeBumblebee
May 13, 2023
Interesting that the alt mode for Stratosphere is listed as the ROTF amalgamation of a few different aircraft (taken verbatim from TFWiki), whereas in ROTB he’s a C-119.
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Comment by Sabrblade
May 13, 2023
That's why. Whoever wrote his card text just copy-pasted from the wiki.EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:Interesting that the alt mode for Stratosphere is listed as the ROTF amalgamation of a few different aircraft (taken verbatim from TFWiki), whereas in ROTB he’s a C-119.
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A "multiverse" covers continuity issues caused by lazy writing. Every movie is in it's own universe, which is why they have a new origin on earth and a different history with every one.
Comment by Brokebot
May 13, 2023
william-james88 wrote:There's been rumblings of a live action Multiverse through rumours and wishful thinking but it's finally officially mentioned. It is part of Unicron's official bio, where he is mentioned to be the most omnipotent "force in the multiverse." The bio also mentions his intention for the Terrocons to get a key that "opens a portal in space and time".
A "multiverse" covers continuity issues caused by lazy writing. Every movie is in it's own universe, which is why they have a new origin on earth and a different history with every one.
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Fair on the first point, but once again... even since the beginning, it hasn't been that "good". As I pointed out, it's fun, but broken down, the cartoon and '86 movie had a lot of problems. The only good stories (not just merely fun) I've had in Transformers media are comics and about half the cartoons. Let's not pretend this "to sell toys" franchise has been good. With that said... I'm still excited.
Sidebar: My main point was pointing out the overwhelming negativity. It seems to be a reoccurring theme for new stuff on this site and it's rather depressing, tbh.
Comment by Nexus Knight
May 13, 2023
Brokebot wrote:Youtube is the internet as a whole, and full of paid shills, studio employees, and bots. This forum is dedicated fans, many of whom have followed the franchise since it's beginning.
Glowing, anonymous, generic reviews on a public platform do not guarantee ticket sales and butts in theater seats or a good movie on the screen.
Fair on the first point, but once again... even since the beginning, it hasn't been that "good". As I pointed out, it's fun, but broken down, the cartoon and '86 movie had a lot of problems. The only good stories (not just merely fun) I've had in Transformers media are comics and about half the cartoons. Let's not pretend this "to sell toys" franchise has been good. With that said... I'm still excited.
Sidebar: My main point was pointing out the overwhelming negativity. It seems to be a reoccurring theme for new stuff on this site and it's rather depressing, tbh.
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Lord, I loved the original cartoon in spite of it's contradictions back in the day, but I can barely make it through an episode now without some level of cringe. I actually enjoyed the first movie, but it quickly spiraled downhill thereafter. It shows how a critical eye comes with age, I suppose.
Comment by Brokebot
May 13, 2023
Nexus Knight wrote:Brokebot wrote:Youtube is the internet as a whole, and full of paid shills, studio employees, and bots. This forum is dedicated fans, many of whom have followed the franchise since it's beginning.
Glowing, anonymous, generic reviews on a public platform do not guarantee ticket sales and butts in theater seats or a good movie on the screen.
Fair on the first point, but once again... even since the beginning, it hasn't been that "good". As I pointed out, it's fun, but broken down, the cartoon and '86 movie had a lot of problems. The only good stories (not just merely fun) I've had in Transformers media are comics and about half the cartoons. Let's not pretend this "to sell toys" franchise has been good. With that said... I'm still excited.
Sidebar: My main point was pointing out the overwhelming negativity. It seems to be a reoccurring theme for new stuff on this site and it's rather depressing, tbh.
Lord, I loved the original cartoon in spite of it's contradictions back in the day, but I can barely make it through an episode now without some level of cringe. I actually enjoyed the first movie, but it quickly spiraled downhill thereafter. It shows how a critical eye comes with age, I suppose.
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The 'multiverse' concept has become a crutch used by lazy writers when they run out of ideas. Whenever a new writer comes into a franchise and wants to put 'their stamp' on it, they fall into this gimmick as a cheap way to ret-con that franchise. Instead of conforming to the stories as they have already been told, they merely write what they think is cool, then bat aside any complaints about continuity by saying 'multiverse!'
It's like every hack writer in Hollywood has become Lucy Lawless in the "Collector" episode of the Simpsons. "Uh - yeah. Well - whenever you notice anything like that... a, uh.... multiverse did it!"
"But in the previous movie, they CLEARLY said..."
"MULTIVERSE!!!"
Comment by DeathReviews
May 13, 2023
A "multiverse" covers continuity issues caused by lazy writing. Every movie is in it's own universe, which is why they have a new origin on earth and a different history with every one.
The 'multiverse' concept has become a crutch used by lazy writers when they run out of ideas. Whenever a new writer comes into a franchise and wants to put 'their stamp' on it, they fall into this gimmick as a cheap way to ret-con that franchise. Instead of conforming to the stories as they have already been told, they merely write what they think is cool, then bat aside any complaints about continuity by saying 'multiverse!'
It's like every hack writer in Hollywood has become Lucy Lawless in the "Collector" episode of the Simpsons. "Uh - yeah. Well - whenever you notice anything like that... a, uh.... multiverse did it!"
"But in the previous movie, they CLEARLY said..."
"MULTIVERSE!!!"
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Comment by Sabrblade
May 13, 2023
So what you're saying is, the G1 cartoon contradicted the G1 Marvel comics because the cartoon was made by "lazy writers" who came "into a franchise" and wanted "to put 'their stamp' on it" instead of "conforming to the stories as they have already been told" in the G1 Marvel comics, which both preceded the cartoon by four months and established the foundation that all Transformers fiction was built upon.DeathReviews wrote:A "multiverse" covers continuity issues caused by lazy writing. Every movie is in it's own universe, which is why they have a new origin on earth and a different history with every one.
The 'multiverse' concept has become a crutch used by lazy writers when they run out of ideas. Whenever a new writer comes into a franchise and wants to put 'their stamp' on it, they fall into this gimmick as a cheap way to ret-con that franchise. Instead of conforming to the stories as they have already been told, they merely write what they think is cool, then bat aside any complaints about continuity by saying 'multiverse!'
It's like every hack writer in Hollywood has become Lucy Lawless in the "Collector" episode of the Simpsons. "Uh - yeah. Well - whenever you notice anything like that... a, uh.... multiverse did it!"
"But in the previous movie, they CLEARLY said..."
"MULTIVERSE!!!"
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Yes, and no. The continuity (such as it is) of the G1 cartoon and movie should be its own self contained thing. The continuity as presented in the Marvel comics should be its own self-contained thing. So should the Bay movies. There's no need to put every transformers iteration into a blender, call it the multi-verse, and turn it into a frankenstein's monster. Which is usually what happens whenever writers give up on continuity and resort to the multiverse as a cheap gimmick to smorgasboard bits and pieces of things they liked from previous shows, and shoehorn them into 'their interpretation' of it.
Comment by DeathReviews
May 13, 2023
Sabrblade wrote:So what you're saying is, the G1 cartoon contradicted the G1 Marvel comics because the cartoon was made by "lazy writers" who came "into a franchise" and wanted "to put 'their stamp' on it" instead of "conforming to the stories as they have already been told" in the G1 Marvel comics, which both preceded the cartoon by four months and established the foundation that all Transformers fiction was built upon.DeathReviews wrote:A "multiverse" covers continuity issues caused by lazy writing. Every movie is in it's own universe, which is why they have a new origin on earth and a different history with every one.
The 'multiverse' concept has become a crutch used by lazy writers when they run out of ideas. Whenever a new writer comes into a franchise and wants to put 'their stamp' on it, they fall into this gimmick as a cheap way to ret-con that franchise. Instead of conforming to the stories as they have already been told, they merely write what they think is cool, then bat aside any complaints about continuity by saying 'multiverse!'
It's like every hack writer in Hollywood has become Lucy Lawless in the "Collector" episode of the Simpsons. "Uh - yeah. Well - whenever you notice anything like that... a, uh.... multiverse did it!"
"But in the previous movie, they CLEARLY said..."
"MULTIVERSE!!!"
Yes, and no. The continuity (such as it is) of the G1 cartoon and movie should be its own self contained thing. The continuity as presented in the Marvel comics should be its own self-contained thing. So should the Bay movies. There's no need to put every transformers iteration into a blender, call it the multi-verse, and turn it into a frankenstein's monster. Which is usually what happens whenever writers give up on continuity and resort to the multiverse as a cheap gimmick to smorgasboard bits and pieces of things they liked from previous shows, and shoehorn them into 'their interpretation' of it.
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Comment by -Kanrabat-
May 13, 2023
Speaking of multiverses, I'd love to see a story where Baytimus goes to the G1verse, then start mercilessly murdering and massacring every Decepticons on sight, like a bloodthirsty psychopath.
Seeing the horror in the face of both
and 
who withness the carnage would be quite entertaining. 
Seeing the horror in the face of both
and who withness the carnage would be quite entertaining.
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Comment by griftimus prime
May 13, 2023
i wonder if the the badguys win. unicron destroys the earth, goes into another alternate universe and gets stuck in the earth or something.
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Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
May 13, 2023
The marketing for this movie has been really good, and I enjoy the bio cards, even if we have some TFwiki copy/paste.
It also looks like Wheeljack may be absent from the opening, and only when they go south does he join the crew.
also like the implication that Scourge as he looks right now is the result of taking spare parts and replacing lost limbs, etc. with other beings parts. A true piecemeal of a physical being
It also looks like Wheeljack may be absent from the opening, and only when they go south does he join the crew.
also like the implication that Scourge as he looks right now is the result of taking spare parts and replacing lost limbs, etc. with other beings parts. A true piecemeal of a physical being
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Comment by Ig89ninja
May 13, 2023
After reading Mirage’s bio, I can totally understand why he would go on a joy ride the moment a human sat in his driver seat, being essentially trapped in a parking garage for the foreseeable future would have driven anyone crazy.
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That's A new level of petty. Even for you. Comparing the situation between 2 continuities that were released literally months apart to a situation between continuities that took over a decade to come together is a bit of a stretch.
Comment by Rodimus Prime
May 13, 2023
Sabrblade wrote:So what you're saying is, the G1 cartoon contradicted the G1 Marvel comics because the cartoon was made by "lazy writers" who came "into a franchise" and wanted "to put 'their stamp' on it" instead of "conforming to the stories as they have already been told" in the G1 Marvel comics, which both preceded the cartoon by four months and established the foundation that all Transformers fiction was built upon.DeathReviews wrote:A "multiverse" covers continuity issues caused by lazy writing. Every movie is in it's own universe, which is why they have a new origin on earth and a different history with every one.
The 'multiverse' concept has become a crutch used by lazy writers when they run out of ideas. Whenever a new writer comes into a franchise and wants to put 'their stamp' on it, they fall into this gimmick as a cheap way to ret-con that franchise. Instead of conforming to the stories as they have already been told, they merely write what they think is cool, then bat aside any complaints about continuity by saying 'multiverse!'
It's like every hack writer in Hollywood has become Lucy Lawless in the "Collector" episode of the Simpsons. "Uh - yeah. Well - whenever you notice anything like that... a, uh.... multiverse did it!"
"But in the previous movie, they CLEARLY said..."
"MULTIVERSE!!!"
That's A new level of petty. Even for you. Comparing the situation between 2 continuities that were released literally months apart to a situation between continuities that took over a decade to come together is a bit of a stretch.
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Soooo...were they copying Mandroid's schtick? Or vice versa, since RotB was delayed? Regardless, nice to have a few synergistic parallels with the current TF cartoon.
Comment by Bumblevivisector
May 13, 2023
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:also like the implication that Scourge as he looks right now is the result of taking spare parts and replacing lost limbs, etc. with other beings parts. A true piecemeal of a physical being
Soooo...were they copying Mandroid's schtick? Or vice versa, since RotB was delayed? Regardless, nice to have a few synergistic parallels with the current TF cartoon.
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I'm not really sure if anyone is really copying anyone.
Mandroid is scavenging Cybertronian parts to build himself from human to a superior being to wipe them out and save Earth from all Transformers.
Scourge was a bot who as time has gone on has suffered grievous injuries in the names of his goals and has used other deceased beings to rebuild himself, or even improve himself. He is sort of a mix between early IDW Megatron, Animated Lockdown, and G1 Galvatron (reformed by Unicron) it seems
Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
May 13, 2023
Bumblevivisector wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:also like the implication that Scourge as he looks right now is the result of taking spare parts and replacing lost limbs, etc. with other beings parts. A true piecemeal of a physical being
Soooo...were they copying Mandroid's schtick? Or vice versa, since RotB was delayed? Regardless, nice to have a few synergistic parallels with the current TF cartoon.
I'm not really sure if anyone is really copying anyone.
Mandroid is scavenging Cybertronian parts to build himself from human to a superior being to wipe them out and save Earth from all Transformers.
Scourge was a bot who as time has gone on has suffered grievous injuries in the names of his goals and has used other deceased beings to rebuild himself, or even improve himself. He is sort of a mix between early IDW Megatron, Animated Lockdown, and G1 Galvatron (reformed by Unicron) it seems
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Comment by william-james88
May 14, 2023
While it has been said in the past, it does look like this new Transformers film is finally focusing mostly on robots. At least in the marketing, with this latest tv spot being mostly shots of the robots. And the robots transforming, no less, which is significant since previous films were criticized for obscuring and limiting transformations. In this new tv spot below, we see new shots of Scourge Transforming across rooftops and a big money shot of Mirage Transforming as he is creating holograms of his robot mode.
Are you hyped?
Are you hyped?
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Comment by Bumblevivisector
May 14, 2023
Except this stretch of the the thread was largely about the bio authors copying stuff from TFWiki, which is why I threw that out there.D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I'm not really sure if anyone is really copying anyone.
