Rumors Say Next Collaborative Project is a Two Part G.I. Joe Crossover

So I have to wonder about something. $90 is a lot for a two figure set when Hasbro doesn't have to pay for a license fee this time around. So that makes me wonder if maybe maybe this time around the set isn't two Transformers, but a Transformer and one of the new 3 3/4" Joe figures that can ride inside it? So instead of including a tiny Joe to scale with Transformers, what if it's a big transformer that's to scale with G.I. Joe? That price is basically Commander Class Plus and there's a lot they could do with that. I doubt we'll see another Jetfire, but something smaller like a single passenger Dragonfly that turns into Whirl and comes with Wild Bill would be pretty cool and totally possible being such a skinny chopper that would work perfectly with lanky Whirl. The wording "pre-existing TF character" and not "pre-existing TF toy" means to me that it's going to include a familiar character rather than a new one like Ectotron or Gigawatt, not that it's going to repack an existing toy. I'm also going to guess one good set and one evil set.

Very excited about the prospects here. I doubt they can really disappoint me no matter what direction they take, this is something I've been waiting for since the first Marvel crossover.

Emerje

While it would be awesome if it did include a Joe, I'm not seeing anything about it being a two-pack, just the first of two sets. Or am I reading too quickly again?

Emerje wrote:So I have to wonder about something. $90 is a lot for a two figure set when Hasbro doesn't have to pay for a license fee this time around. So that makes me wonder if maybe maybe this time around the set isn't two Transformers, but a Transformer and one of the new 3 3/4" Joe figures that can ride inside it? So instead of including a tiny Joe to scale with Transformers, what if it's a big transformer that's to scale with G.I. Joe? That price is basically Commander Class Plus and there's a lot they could do with that. I doubt we'll see another Jetfire, but something smaller like a single passenger Dragonfly that turns into Whirl and comes with Wild Bill would be pretty cool and totally possible being such a skinny chopper that would work perfectly with lanky Whirl. The wording "pre-existing TF character" and not "pre-existing TF toy" means to me that it's going to include a familiar character rather than a new one like Ectotron or Gigawatt, not that it's going to repack an existing toy. I'm also going to guess one good set and one evil set.

Very excited about the prospects here. I doubt they can really disappoint me no matter what direction they take, this is something I've been waiting for since the first Marvel crossover.

Emerje

It's a decent theory, and provides a target for speculation, but I don't know how likely it is. At that price point it would need to be at least a Leader size, and a cockpit or other space to include a 3.75" figure would limit mold reuse beyond the collaboration. I would really like to see this, but I'm not going to get my hopes up.

As an alternative possibility, it could be a retool of one of the recent bikes like Wreck-Gar or Arcee and include a 6" Classified figure, or even two. There's been a lot of merch recently with Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow on bikes. You'd need two Joe's to get to the $90 price point.

Less interestingly, it could also be something like the X-Men collaboration and just include microfigures that don't interact with the set at all. Hopefully we'll find out soon. (Edit: the leaker and this post say it'll be at the next event, Friday's livestream. That doesn't give us much time, we need to speculate faster.)

Perhaps a voyager and a deluxe. Or maybe two voyagers. I bet they keep the price point at $90 and simply rake in extra profits. They probably justify the price based on it being an exclusive.

My guess: Earthrise Starscream repainted as the Skystriker

What did they do in the comics?

I think the R.H.I.N.O. as Battletrap would make a lot of sense. It separates into an attack helicopter and 4 wheeled vehicle, it makes sense thematically and the colour scheme even works.

If it is the R.H.I.N.O. A retool of TR Skyshadow / Overlord is a slam dunk. And you have cockpits built in for a titan master sized Cobra figure to ride in.

Makes too much sense.

Maybe we could see a retool/repaint of the Top Gun Maverick... and nothing else.

Never underestimate the markup of these X-Over toys.

Overcracker wrote:If it is the R.H.I.N.O. A retool of TR Skyshadow / Overlord is a slam dunk. And you have cockpits built in for a titan master sized Cobra figure to ride in.

Makes too much sense.

Based on the price and design I considered TR Overlord too, but instead of the Rhino, I would do it as a more traditional tank and the Night Raven jet, with the character changed to Megatron. The main problem I had with it is that while the Joes had the Mauler, I couldn't find a Cobra version of a classic tank.

AcademyofDrX wrote:

Overcracker wrote:If it is the R.H.I.N.O. A retool of TR Skyshadow / Overlord is a slam dunk. And you have cockpits built in for a titan master sized Cobra figure to ride in.

Makes too much sense.

Based on the price and design I considered TR Overlord too, but instead of the Rhino, I would do it as a more traditional tank and the Night Raven jet, with the character changed to Megatron. The main problem I had with it is that while the Joes had the Mauler, I couldn't find a Cobra version of a classic tank.

This is the only one I know of: http://www.toyarchive.com/Gi-Joe/Vehicl ... sTank.html

It would work with The Raven and the C.A.T tank. The robot does not really need to be a transformers character as seen on previous x-overs.

And the Skyshadow mold even has the little drone that can be used as the Sttrato Viper that came with Night Raven.

Overcracker wrote:The robot does not really need to be a transformers character as seen on previous x-overs.

In this case, it does according to the leaker, who has been pretty solid on the info given in the past.

"-Unless plans have changed, it is going to include a pre-existing TF character"

That still leaves things pretty wide open, but I would bet on the bot mode being someone from the franchise.

What would suck would be just re-releases of some of the Human Alliance figures with just the mini-figs retooled to be various Joes or Cobras. Wait, that actually might not be too bad...

TK415 wrote:My guess: Earthrise Starscream repainted as the Skystriker

What did they do in the comics?

Which ones? There were several crossovers in comics by different publishers. The original Marvel run of both franchises had a 4-issue crossover miniseries, plus a comic where Cobra found and rebuilt Megatron into his G2 body; Dreamwave had a crossover set in WWII (and therefore the most unlikely to use as a reference); Devil's Due Publishing had Cobra find the dormant Transformers, refit them into typical GI Joe/Cobra vehicles and remotely control them - until they inevitably awaken and break free - and also created Serpent O.R., while GI Joe mostly used mechs; and the IDW crossover series by Tom Scioli which...I can hardly understand what's going on there, honestly.

So, from my guess, the pre-existing character will be either G2 Megatron, Serpent O.R., or one of the many Transformers already based on GI Joe vehicles (Snow Cat, Skyhammer, Viper...). Though it could also be another, more well-known character adapted to a GI Joe vehicle, like the Devil's Due Publishing comics or the Earth Wars event.

MeGrimlock78 wrote:While it would be awesome if it did include a Joe, I'm not seeing anything about it being a two-pack, just the first of two sets. Or am I reading too quickly again?

Do you normally call one figure a set? You said it yourself, the leak specifically says the one listed at Gamestop is a set and there will be two sets. We should be getting at least two figures in each set, what kind of figures they are is anyone's guess.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:Excited to finally get our first full fledged TRANSFORMING crossover between two of Hasbro's most iconic franchises without being hidden behind unrelated series?

nah I'm good.

Emerje wrote:

MeGrimlock78 wrote:While it would be awesome if it did include a Joe, I'm not seeing anything about it being a two-pack, just the first of two sets. Or am I reading too quickly again?

Do you normally call one figure a set? You said it yourself, the leak specifically says the one listed at Gamestop is a set and there will be two sets. We should be getting at least two figures in each set, what kind of figures they are is anyone's guess.

Emerje

Point taken.

On to predictions. It would make sense to have the Joe set first, but given the codename, perhaps a Cobra Trooper or B.A.T. themed set? I could see a B.A.T. being a good choice for a transforming robot, though it has been done before.

That pic of the vehicle seems to me very similar to siege ironhide/ratchet. Also, the hole on the very front of the vehicle reminds me of a combiner hand/foot port. Or could it be a hole to combine two vehicles like the micomaster set Countdown and... sorry can't remember the other vehicle...they were both blue decepticon missile carrier vehicles i think.

SciFi80sGameFan wrote:That pic of the vehicle seems to me very similar to siege ironhide/ratchet. Also, the hole on the very front of the vehicle reminds me of a combiner hand/foot port. Or could it be a hole to combine two vehicles like the micomaster set Countdown and... sorry can't remember the other vehicle...they were both blue decepticon missile carrier vehicles i think.

The figure in the picture is Energon Snowcat from 2004. I tried using something fairly recent that most of us would recognize to prevent confusion, but I guess there was bound to be people who weren't familiar with it. Maybe I should have used another picture of original Wild Weasel riding on CW Viper.

Emerje

Evidently the Gamestop listing has now updated to say "Hiss Tank Megatron & Baroness set", so I guess that solves that.

Nemesis Primal wrote:Evidently the Gamestop listing has now updated to say "Hiss Tank Megatron & Baroness set", so I guess that solves that.

Oh?

Looking forward the actual reveal.

If it's yet another Siege repaint with just your standard action figure thrown in, it will be a hard pass. But if there's some original molds here...

Megatron, eh? Hm. I have Genesis Megatron leading the (few) bad guys I have on my Crossover shelf ... I guess he can be Megaplex or something.

Where will that leave Prime (if Megatron is a Hiss tank I mean)? Because the other one is obviously going to be Prime.

There was a good chance that the next collaborative project, codenamed Trooper, was going to be GI Joe based. And now we have further proof. We have a web link for a Gamestop product called Transformers x GI Joe Collaborative Hiss Tank Megatron & Baroness set. The link is currently inactive. It will probably be active tomorrow to coincide with the GI Joe event happening at 11. You can get more info on that here.

The scale is said to be 3.75 inch, making that $90 quite expensive. But remember, Hasbro never made the GI Joe brand more affordable than figures which they have to pay a license for, hence why the 6 inch marvel legends are the same price point as 6 inch GI Joe classified figures.

Below is an image of what the HISS tank looks like for those unaware. We will post what this product actually looks like when it is revealed.

I'm surprised they went with Megatron instead of Soundwave, but Megs is probably a much safer bet for profitability.
Either way I'm very keen to see how it looks!

If Megatron turns into 3.75" scale HISS tank he's much larger than a leader class figure. Definitely comparable to Rodimus.

I’d rather they not use existing characters but rather create new ones like they’ve done with recent crossover projects but hey, money,

frogbat wrote:I’d rather they not use existing characters but rather create new ones like they’ve done with recent crossover projects but hey, money,

I think this one is a bit different because G.I. Joe vs Transformers is an existing concept that people have been wanting toys for for a long time.

Dr. Caelus wrote:If Megatron turns into 3.75" scale HISS tank he's much larger than a leader class figure. Definitely comparable to Rodimus.

I’m guessing that’s The Baroness’ figure size, since that was the size of the 80s G.I. Joe toys.

TOO MUCH ENERGON! wrote:

Dr. Caelus wrote:If Megatron turns into 3.75" scale HISS tank he's much larger than a leader class figure. Definitely comparable to Rodimus.

I’m guessing that’s The Baroness’ figure size, since that was the size of the 80s G.I. Joe toys.

It's both. It means he's big enough for a 3.75 figure (the one he comes with) to ride in. So that could be why he is $90 afterall, he's gonna be pretty big.

If this is a HISS tank painted to look kinda-like-megatron and a retro Baroness figure I am going to be very disappointed.

SJ21 wrote:If this is a HISS tank painted to look kinda-like-megatron and a retro Baroness figure I am going to be very disappointed.

Everything released under the Transformers Crossovers line had a transforming bot so far. I don't see that changing now.

Lore Keeper wrote:

frogbat wrote:I’d rather they not use existing characters but rather create new ones like they’ve done with recent crossover projects but hey, money,

I think this one is a bit different because G.I. Joe vs Transformers is an existing concept that people have been wanting toys for for a long time.

Technically, this goes as far back as G2: that Megatron's body was built by Cobra after all.

And hey, the leak said that only one of the figures would be an established character, so the other will probably be a new one. Most likely an Autobot/G.I. Joe to counter Baroness with Megatron.

For $90 that hiss tank better transform and not just be a repaint like the previous Transformers/GI Joe crossover stuff.

It's up for pre-order on Pulse, it does transform, and it is not just a Siege mold repaint.

Pre-ordered. That looks really nice. Don't care what size it is...that's just a neat mold IMHO.

I saw the photos on Hasbro Pulse. Looks like an easy pass. It's too expensive, and neither Megatron, nor the Baroness, look good enough to merit the higher price point. Not even with this inflation (which they still say isn't happening).

Megatron has too much chunky stuff hanging off his back. They didn't do much to hide the HISS blocks.

I preordered it, but it's trying to be G1 too much. I would have liked it if they had redesigned Megatron to go with this Hiss Tank look instead of trying it to be G1 Megatron in bot mode. It lacks style.

Maybe later pics will make it look nicer.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:I preordered it, but it's trying to be G1 too much. I would have liked it if they had redesigned Megatron to go with this Hiss Tank look instead of trying it to be G1 Megatron in bot mode. It lacks style.

Maybe later pics will make it look nicer.

I preordered from Gamestop, figured I'd give them the money instead of Hasbro (and yes I know Hasbro still gets money from the purchase, but Gamestop does get a cut this way).

I agree with you, I think they tried too hard to make him look G1. I would have been fine with more changes to hide the HISS tank parts.

I'd rather they'd used a more modern figure for the Baroness too. I'm just not that fond of the O-Ring designs when compared to Modern figures. It's just going backwards in terms of sculpting.

Still I've always wanted a GI Joe transformer that transformed, and so I will support this one.

It's not what I wanted from a crossover figure for personal reasons, but it makes sense and is good for what it is. I know we're going to see at least one more, but by locking into the 3.75" human scale, that doesn't leave many more. It's a better toy for a Joe collection than a TF one.

i saw it. but even if it was half the price. no. i laughed at the 90 price tag. i am very picky with my tf collecting now. and i have no desire to have it.

The GI Joe live event revealed the upcoming Transformers GI Joe collaboration whicg is a Megatron H.I.S.S. Tank with Baroness. Baroness is 3.75 inches tall and fits inside Megatron in both modes as you can see from the images below. Megatron himself is a big boy, and seems to be over 9 inches tall. Under the images you will find the full product listing. This toy can be purchased at various online shops, which we will post with the usual sponsor news, as well as on Hasbro Pulse https://hasbropulse.com/collections/new ... d-baroness
This toy is said to be out January next year.

























Transformers robots have always been -- More Than Meets the Eye -- but now, through the Transformers Collaborative, fans can experience these larger than life characters as they team-up, mash-up, and meet up with other characters, teams, and people who share this same special quality.

Worlds collide in this Transformers-G.I. Joe mash-up pack! The Decepticons and Cobra team up to conquer the world! Baroness and Megatron, disguised as a H.I.S.S. Tank, plan the next Cobra attack. The Megatron H.I.S.S. Tank toy converts from robot to tank mode in 28 steps and comes with G.I. Joe Retro Baroness figure. Both figures feature deco and details based on the worlds of Transformers and G.I. Joe. Includes fusion cannon, backpack, and weapon accessories. Accurate scale to the 1983 H.I.S.S. Tank toy. Display Baroness figure at the turret and in the H.I.S.S. tank vehicle mode. Packaging is inspired by a mash-up of the classic ’80s toys with retro artwork. Baroness toy comes on a card back with file card.

Includes: 2 Figures, 3 accessories, and instructions.

MORE THAN MEETS THE EYE: Transformers robots have always More Than Meets the Eye, but now fans can experience Transformers characters as they mash-up with iconic characters who share this same quality
TRANSFORMERS-G.I. JOE MASH-UP: The Decepticons and Cobra team up to conquer the world! Baroness and Megatron, disguised as a H.I.S.S. Tank, plan the next Cobra attack
INSPIRED BY G.I. JOE: Megatron H.I.S.S. Tank toy converts from robot to H.I.S.S. tank mode in 28 steps and comes with G.I. Joe Retro Baroness figure. Deco and details are based on the world of G.I. Joe
DETAIL AND ACCESSORIES: Includes fusion cannon, backpack, and weapon accessories. Accurate scale to the 1983 H.I.S.S. Tank toy. Display Baroness figure at the turret and in the H.I.S.S. tank vehicle mode
SPECIAL RETRO G.I. JOE-INSPIRED PACKAGING: Packaging is inspired by the classic ’80s Transformers and G.I. Joe toy packaging with retro artwork. Baroness figure comes on a card back with file card

A 1/18th scale Megatron with a GI Joe figure to ride in him?

I'll be honest, this is my least liked type of Transformer, where there is minimal alt mode integration in robot mode. Which is kind of nuts when the HISS tank could make for a pretty good old school TF. It's angular so you could definitely design it to trasform into a boxy TF.

Also, it seems like it is not that much bigger than a leader class from the CW era after all.

The responses to this all over the place: some love it, others hate it; some are pleasantly surprised, others frustratingly disappointed. My collection is G1 Generations, so what I wanted was a TR-style figure with a tiny Joe accessories. This is scaled to Joesv and like nothing else I have, and the size precludes things I'd love like a Starscream. With that said, it is what's advertised, and I'll be happy to get it along with the eventual Optimus.

Eh, was hoping for a lot more alt-mode integration. I guess they had to make sure that non-TF fans/primarily Joe fans knew it was Megs. That being said - I still think it's pretty radical that this is finally a Joe toy that can become a Transformer, and I'll probably still get it. Even if I leave it in tank mode, it's still neat that it's also Megs as well.

It's probably my eyes playing tricks on me since WFC Megs had like 10 repaints/retools. Is any part of this new toy WFC Megatron, or is it all new?

o.supreme wrote:It's probably my eyes playing tricks on me since WFC Megs had like 10 repaints/retools. Is any part of this new toy WFC Megatron, or is it all new?

Unless I'm misremembering the size of the WFC megs, this looks to be using upscaled parts from earthrise megs; the head certainly, maybe the chestplate, everything else though is new, the upper and lower legs don't have any of the residual parts from that figure, so do the arms

I'm just going to say it, this figure is awful as a transformer, it looks like most of the tank is hanging off its back, it looks boring as hell, and the baroness figure doesn't even look good

o.supreme wrote:It's probably my eyes playing tricks on me since WFC Megs had like 10 repaints/retools. Is any part of this new toy WFC Megatron, or is it all new?

None, it's a different size class all together. Though I too saw big similarities at first glance. The similarities may simply be visual or design wise, but not mold wise.

For the price I was hoping it was to scale with classified figures where is Weijang when you need them, Damn Mouse.

Kind of like it, must say im not a fan of the retro joes that much though. I think the walmart stuff and even the modern/movie figures looked way better than these O rings.. I guess i dont really have the retro nostalgia for them compared to retro star wars or gi joe vehicles.

william-james88 wrote:I'll be honest, this is my least liked type of Transformer, where there is minimal alt mode integration in robot mode. Which is kind of nuts when the HISS tank could make for a pretty good old school TF. It's angular so you could definitely design it to trasform into a boxy TF.

Also, it seems like it is not that much bigger than a leader class from the CW era after all.

Agree 100%.
It's a hard pass for me unless the thing is on deep clearance.

Why force Megatron into that altmode? So far, all X-Over toys were original characters. Why not that one?
Seriously, that Megs looks like regular Megs but wearing a bad cosplay.

-Kanrabat- wrote:So far, all X-Over toys were original characters. Why not that one?

You actually wanna break that tradition?