Several breakage reports with newly released Siege Slamdance
Friday, August 16th, 2019 10:18AM CDT
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While it's exciting that both Amazon exclusive Siege sets are shipping and arriving to American consumers, several fans are now reporting a very specific breakage issue for Deluxe Class Slamdance, which comes in the pack officially titled Transformers Generations War for Cybertron Deluxe WFC-S26 Autobot Alphastrike Counterforce 3 Pack - Final Strike Figure Series: Part 1. Slamdance is also packaged with Deluxe Class G2 clone Sideswipe and Battle Masters Trenchfoot.
The breakage with Slamdance is on his left ankle, which you can see in the images below. This problem has been reported several times to the Seibertron.com news staff as well as several Transformers fans on Twitter. Apparently the breakage is caused because the feet are very tight and it's the same plastic material on those parts as Flywheels which are susceptible to stress from the get-go. The figure needs to be handled carefully to avoid the breakage, though it is not clear at this time if even that will prevent breakage.
Here are a handful of twitter posts showing the defect and more reports are coming in as people get them:
https://twitter.com/N0tsofriendly/status/1162089529328701440?s=19
https://twitter.com/UnderscoreZeus/status/1162116742727868417/photo/1
https://twitter.com/KPAutobotX/status/1162140505616068612
Good luck to all of you with your Slamdance! Please let us know if you experience any problems with your Slamdance figure so that we can continue to share this information with other Seibertronians.
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Posted by Carnivius_Prime on August 16th, 2019 @ 10:25am CDT
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on August 16th, 2019 @ 10:26am CDT
william-james88 wrote:We have some bad news.
The breakage in on the ankle, specifically the left ankle, as you will see in images below. The feet are very tight and it's the same plastic material on those parts as Flywheels which was susceptible to stress from the get-go. Gotta handle it really gingerly.
Good luck to all of you!
Well crap, I'm going to be opening him tonight, good to know to be careful. Are there actually 2 breakage points? The first and last photo show the ankle breaking, but the middle photo looks like the knee might be suspect as well.
Posted by o.supreme on August 16th, 2019 @ 10:30am CDT
1. I'm seeing this more and more on the *second use* of any particular figure type, I wonder what the reason is? Definitely causes concern for pretty much all the 35th anniversary packaged figures, Ratchet etc...
Has anyone who purchased Red Alert yet had similar issues?
2. I'm glad they delayed Omega Supreme. I know he is a brand new toy, but taking extra time to QC everything is worth it IMHO.
Posted by wolverinetodd on August 16th, 2019 @ 10:36am CDT
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on August 16th, 2019 @ 10:41am CDT
wolverinetodd wrote:The question to ask is "What is Hasbro doing to rectify this to customers' satisfaction?" This is a rather expensive exclusive set for one of the figures to be defective and end up broken after a couple of transformations. It's not like one can take the defective figure back to the retail store and exchange it for another figure. Will Hasbro send out replacement parts? Will Hasbro do partial refunds?
No and no to your questions. I don't ever recall a case before where replacement parts were sent out, it is usually a replacement or a refund. And since this was an Amazon exclusive, Amazon will offer replacement or refund and then work it out directly with Hasbro.
I'll be opening mine right when I get home from work today to see if I ended up with a bad one, and if so, package it right back up for Amazon.
Posted by joevill on August 16th, 2019 @ 10:45am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on August 16th, 2019 @ 10:49am CDT
wolverinetodd wrote:The question to ask is "What is Hasbro doing to rectify this to customers' satisfaction?" This is a rather expensive exclusive set for one of the figures to be defective and end up broken after a couple of transformations. It's not like one can take the defective figure back to the retail store and exchange it for another figure. Will Hasbro send out replacement parts? Will Hasbro do partial refunds?
Hasbro will send you an item of equal value but you have to send them every component of this set first.
You are better off to just return to Amazon for refund.
Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on August 16th, 2019 @ 10:50am CDT
o.supreme wrote:I have 2 thoughts....
1. I'm seeing this more and more on the *second use* of any particular figure type, I wonder what the reason is? Definitely causes concern for pretty much all the 35th anniversary packaged figures, Ratchet etc...
Has anyone who purchased Red Alert yet had similar issues?
2. I'm glad they delayed Omega Supreme. I know he is a brand new toy, but taking extra time to QC everything is worth it IMHO.
It doesn't seem to be happening with the Seekers. And there's 7 uses of that one. Skytread had issues with his ankles on some of the figures too. It sounds like it's a problem with this specific mold, not a line wide issue.
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on August 16th, 2019 @ 10:54am CDT
o.supreme wrote:1. I'm seeing this more and more on the *second use* of any particular figure type, I wonder what the reason is? Definitely causes concern for pretty much all the 35th anniversary packaged figures, Ratchet etc...
Has anyone who purchased Red Alert yet had similar issues?
Do you have any specific examples? The only recent one that comes to mind for me is Red Swoop.
Red Alert is just as solid, if not more than Sideswipe for me. All the Siege seekers after Starscream have been better than Starscream. Ricochet and Combat Hero Megs were equal to Jazz and reg Megs for me.
The Skytread mold already had issues right from the start, so I wonder if they actually adjusted the mold to fix one issue and instead caused another one. Or it could be nothing to do with the molds themselves and rather be an issue with the plastic material used.
Posted by Ultra Markus on August 16th, 2019 @ 10:55am CDT
Posted by Stargrave on August 16th, 2019 @ 11:30am CDT
My Red Alert is a tad just a smidge looser in the legs but honestly pretty solid.
I know what you mean about that curse of the second use of the mold but with him it’s not so much the case. Thundercracker will be my second Seeker so I’m really curious to see how it holds up. I love Starscream I’m feeling I won’t be disappointed everyone’s loving the Seekers for the same reasons I am.
Posted by william-james88 on August 16th, 2019 @ 11:32am CDT
Posted by Stargrave on August 16th, 2019 @ 11:39am CDT
william-james88 wrote:I dont think its a second mold use curse, I havent seen that trend. Skythread was the siege deluxe suffering from the most QC issues from the get go, so its no suprise that of all the redecos, its this one that also has issues.
I had to shave down his heel pegs just to get that tank mode to work and it’s still a little eh, you know? He’s otherwise a win though I love how chunky he is and the jet mode is way cool. I reversed his wings and place the long barrel on his back to give him a junior Blitzwing vibe.
Posted by Randomhero on August 16th, 2019 @ 11:42am CDT
william-james88 wrote:I dont think its a second mold use curse, I havent seen that trend. Skythread was the siege deluxe suffering from the most QC issues from the get go, so its no suprise that of all the redecos, its this one that also has issues.
Exactly. It’s not mold degradation. It’s privet just a bad batch of red plastic and that spot where it’s breaking is just a really weak spot.
Posted by o.supreme on August 16th, 2019 @ 11:45am CDT
TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Do you have any specific examples? The only recent one that comes to mind for me is Red Swoop.
I don't like to dredge up old beefs but since you asked...yeah my Red Swoop and Ricochet were pretty much garbage. But this seems to be less frequent than some others (though I know for certain I was not the only one who had issues with these). Glad to know Red Alert is good, also Combat Hero Megs, since that was a selects release and I had my concerns.
Although I wont be getting Bluestreak or Selects Smokescreen, it will be interesting to see what the overall QC of these is. I'm not saying its a *second mold curse* just an observation. being in QC/Auditing is what I'm all about . Something happens twice, it's a red flag, 3 or more times, and it's a trend that needs to be corrected.
Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on August 16th, 2019 @ 12:28pm CDT
Stargrave wrote:They’re just taking the battle damage aesthetic to the next level, jeepers. I know Slamdance ‘shoots himself in the foot’ sometimes but this is ridiculous.
My Red Alert is a tad just a smidge looser in the legs but honestly pretty solid.
I know what you mean about that curse of the second use of the mold but with him it’s not so much the case. Thundercracker will be my second Seeker so I’m really curious to see how it holds up. I love Starscream I’m feeling I won’t be disappointed everyone’s loving the Seekers for the same reasons I am.
I just got Thundercracker yesterday. He's great! The chest panel shows no signs of falling off. I don't have any issues with the figure. At least nothing that can't be fixed with a quarter turn of a screw driver. Slightly loose elbow on one side. No biggie.
Posted by sol magnus on August 16th, 2019 @ 12:31pm CDT
RodimusConvoy13 wrote:Stargrave wrote:They’re just taking the battle damage aesthetic to the next level, jeepers. I know Slamdance ‘shoots himself in the foot’ sometimes but this is ridiculous.
My Red Alert is a tad just a smidge looser in the legs but honestly pretty solid.
I know what you mean about that curse of the second use of the mold but with him it’s not so much the case. Thundercracker will be my second Seeker so I’m really curious to see how it holds up. I love Starscream I’m feeling I won’t be disappointed everyone’s loving the Seekers for the same reasons I am.
I just got Thundercracker yesterday. He's great! The chest panel shows no signs of falling off. I don't have any issues with the figure. At least nothing that can't be fixed with a quarter turn of a screw driver. Slightly loose elbow on one side. No biggie.
Did you order him from Pulse? Amazon?
Posted by Vic Zanzibar on August 16th, 2019 @ 12:32pm CDT
Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on August 16th, 2019 @ 12:38pm CDT
sol magnus wrote:RodimusConvoy13 wrote:Stargrave wrote:They’re just taking the battle damage aesthetic to the next level, jeepers. I know Slamdance ‘shoots himself in the foot’ sometimes but this is ridiculous.
My Red Alert is a tad just a smidge looser in the legs but honestly pretty solid.
I know what you mean about that curse of the second use of the mold but with him it’s not so much the case. Thundercracker will be my second Seeker so I’m really curious to see how it holds up. I love Starscream I’m feeling I won’t be disappointed everyone’s loving the Seekers for the same reasons I am.
I just got Thundercracker yesterday. He's great! The chest panel shows no signs of falling off. I don't have any issues with the figure. At least nothing that can't be fixed with a quarter turn of a screw driver. Slightly loose elbow on one side. No biggie.
Did you order him from Pulse? Amazon?
Amazon. I got lucky. I saw he was in stock, but by the time I went to order him, it said August 31st before he'd ship. Next day I was on Amazon again and it said 1-2 days. Cancelled the first order and ordered again. Now he's August 31st again.
Posted by Bounti76 on August 16th, 2019 @ 12:58pm CDT
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on August 16th, 2019 @ 1:05pm CDT
Posted by Microbot on August 16th, 2019 @ 1:07pm CDT
Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on August 16th, 2019 @ 2:23pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on August 16th, 2019 @ 2:25pm CDT
RodimusConvoy13 wrote:Fun with a flight stand.
Does TC have decepticon symbols in his inner wings like Starscream?
Posted by RodimusConvoy13 on August 16th, 2019 @ 2:32pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:RodimusConvoy13 wrote:Fun with a flight stand.
Does TC have decepticon symbols in his inner wings like Starscream?
He does not. I was surprised by that.
Posted by Flashwave on August 16th, 2019 @ 2:43pm CDT
*Carefully putsSlamdance on a shelf and never touches him again*
On a related note, I am now so torn about G2 Sideswipe. This is my first expsrience with the mold and I *Like* it but I'm not sure I *love* it. I am tempted to sell mine, but I think I want to see if the 3P guys do any Guns and the Bandolier. I wish we knew if there was a Sunstreaker coming for Siege2, I *might* be more inclined to circle back for Swipe then.
Posted by Unicron Magnus on August 16th, 2019 @ 6:07pm CDT
(On that note, when was the last time we got a G1 Starscream that had an actual cockpit-chest? The Legends figure? And that's not even addressing the chest turbines, which I believe only the Masterpiece ever had actually folding up.) I don't mind Siegescream's chest turbines, since they could be interpreted as engines.
I know I'm nitpicking about a-million-and-a-half times too hard right now, but I wish that the seeker mold chest actually looked like something that could be the rear of a spaceship, even if that's not slavishly G1 enough.
I have literally no idea why I ranted so hard about this, but I'm really picky about G1 Starscreams for some reason.
Posted by Stargrave on August 16th, 2019 @ 6:11pm CDT
Unicron Magnus wrote:I think I'd actually be interested in the Seeker mold if it didn't have the fake F-15 cockpit slapped on the chest/plane rear. That's one thing that's always bugged me about "Cybertronian-mode" designs, the fake Earth-mode chunks slapped on, and "faux-parts" are already something I can't stand. This line seems to avoid that, for the most part.
(On that note, when was the last time we got a G1 Starscream that had an actual cockpit-chest? The Legends figure? And that's not even addressing the chest turbines, which I believe only the Masterpiece ever had actually folding up.) I don't mind Siegescream's chest turbines, since they could be interpreted as engines.
I know I'm nitpicking about a-million-and-a-half times too hard right now, but I wish that the seeker mold chest actually looked like something that could be the rear of a spaceship, even if that's not slavishly G1 enough.
I have literally no idea why I ranted so hard about this, but I'm really picky about G1 Starscreams for some reason.
Dude it’s cool, you’re in the right place. Starscream appreciators welcome
Posted by grimdragon2001 on August 16th, 2019 @ 7:18pm CDT
Posted by Triggerdick Megatron on August 16th, 2019 @ 8:17pm CDT
The longest name for anything ever!
"Power of the Primes Optimal Optimus" and "Studio Series Bumblebee Optimus Prime" are rather short in comparison.
Posted by Sabrblade on August 16th, 2019 @ 8:38pm CDT
"Hasbro, Inc. Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader class Ultra Magnus Duly Appointed Enforcer of the Tyrest Accord (with Minimus Ambus)".Triggerdick Megatron wrote:"Transformers Generations War for Cybertron Deluxe WFC-S26 Autobot Alphastrike Counterforce 3 Pack - Final Strike Figure Series: Part 1."
The longest name for anything ever!
"Power of the Primes Optimal Optimus" and "Studio Series Bumblebee Optimus Prime" are rather short in comparison.
Posted by o.supreme on August 16th, 2019 @ 8:40pm CDT
This doesn't happen often, but it was a little uncomfortable seeing my wife's eyes widen when she saw the price at checkout, probably should have explained that ahead of time .....(I usually do, just somehow forgot...), but that's OK, my work bonus next week should more then compensate
Posted by TFanPage101 on August 16th, 2019 @ 10:07pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on August 16th, 2019 @ 11:03pm CDT
Unicron Magnus wrote:I think I'd actually be interested in the Seeker mold if it didn't have the fake F-15 cockpit slapped on the chest/plane rear. That's one thing that's always bugged me about "Cybertronian-mode" designs, the fake Earth-mode chunks slapped on, and "faux-parts" are already something I can't stand. This line seems to avoid that, for the most part.
(On that note, when was the last time we got a G1 Starscream that had an actual cockpit-chest? The Legends figure?.
We had a real cockpit chest G1 starscream in the cyberbattalion series from a couple years ago. Plus the combiner starscream uses a real cockpit in combined mode, which I found fun.
Posted by matthewrex on August 16th, 2019 @ 11:30pm CDT
Posted by Emerje on August 17th, 2019 @ 12:04am CDT
Emerje
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 17th, 2019 @ 2:27am CDT
Posted by Unicron Magnus on August 17th, 2019 @ 5:15am CDT
Posted by sol magnus on August 17th, 2019 @ 8:26am CDT
Posted by Vic Zanzibar on August 17th, 2019 @ 8:42am CDT
Unicron Magnus wrote:Seems like the Skytread mold is the real dud of this line, between this and the issues on the tank. Shame, because I feel like the Duocons are a neat concept.
The mold looks quite nice in robot mode though so even the dud of the line has merit. While I’m impressed that they made a rather aesthetic deluxe size robot mode Duocon, the Duocon gimmick probably needs to be applied to the voyager class to get decent vehicle modes out of it.
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on August 17th, 2019 @ 12:18pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 17th, 2019 @ 12:52pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:About Amazon's Slamdance, don't tell me it's GPS 2.0?
*takes a deep breath preparing to scream*
No, it's not. It's a tension related break, as described in the article as a really tight joint. That's a red flag right there, an overly tight joint means there's too much friction in a certain spot and the force required to move causes any weaker spots to give.
My Skytread has a similar issue (that left joint being tighter than the right, but not to the point of jamming), so it may be a tolerance issue with the mold itself, coupled with the plastic used. A bit disheartening, I was looking forward to getting him
Posted by SGMLordMirage on August 17th, 2019 @ 1:41pm CDT
SGM
Posted by sol magnus on August 17th, 2019 @ 2:00pm CDT
SGMLordMirage wrote:Finally got lucky and found the Seeker set at a local Target here in Virginia.
SGM
Nice. They're up the road in Maryland, too. Looks like I'm going to pass on them, but I still think they're great!
In other news, my Skywarp just hit the Amazon pick up box!
Posted by Unicron Magnus on August 17th, 2019 @ 4:09pm CDT
Vic Zanzibar wrote:Unicron Magnus wrote:Seems like the Skytread mold is the real dud of this line, between this and the issues on the tank. Shame, because I feel like the Duocons are a neat concept.
The mold looks quite nice in robot mode though so even the dud of the line has merit. While I’m impressed that they made a rather aesthetic deluxe size robot mode Duocon, the Duocon gimmick probably needs to be applied to the voyager class to get decent vehicle modes out of it.
I'm alright with the current vehicles, but it's disappointing that the tank can't peg together fully without having to trim down the plastic.
(Edit: does Slamdance have the same problems? Or just the ankle?)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on August 17th, 2019 @ 9:21pm CDT
Posted by Skritz on August 17th, 2019 @ 9:23pm CDT
Posted by Unicron Magnus on August 17th, 2019 @ 10:01pm CDT
Almost makes me wonder if Has/Tak have issues with designing jet/tank figures.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 17th, 2019 @ 10:08pm CDT
Unicron Magnus wrote:Almost makes me wonder if Has/Tak have issues with designing jet/tank figures.
They actually do. Even seen a universally praised figure with either mode?
Posted by LinaNui on August 17th, 2019 @ 10:11pm CDT