Takara Tomy Transformers: Age of Extinction Dual Model Kit Optimus Prime Color Images
			
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							 Comment by Mindmaster
							 Jul 4, 2014						
						
						If I were to get anything based on this version of the big OP, this would be it. 
					
						
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							 Comment by Burn
							 Jul 4, 2014						
						
						Looking at Stomp and Chomp Grimlock I'm thinking he's the AoE equivalent of Beast Machines Supreme Cheetor.
Big, simplified, and utterly useless.
					Big, simplified, and utterly useless.
						
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							 Comment by Mindmaster
							 Jul 4, 2014						
						
						Burn wrote:Looking at Stomp and Chomp Grimlock I'm thinking he's the AoE equivalent of Beast Machines Supreme Cheetor.
Big, simplified, and utterly useless.

						
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Supreme Cheetor is still better because he actually transforms. All Grimlock does his bend over. 
					
				
							 Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
							 Jul 4, 2014						
						
						Mindmaster wrote:Burn wrote:Looking at Stomp and Chomp Grimlock I'm thinking he's the AoE equivalent of Beast Machines Supreme Cheetor.
Big, simplified, and utterly useless.
Supreme Cheetor is still better because he actually transforms. All Grimlock does his bend over.

						
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That's practically what SC does.
And Fortress Maximus.
And Metroplex.
Heck, when you think about it, the only "complex" supreme Transformer would be Cybertron Starscream.
					
				
							 Comment by Burn
							 Jul 4, 2014						
						
						JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Mindmaster wrote:Burn wrote:Looking at Stomp and Chomp Grimlock I'm thinking he's the AoE equivalent of Beast Machines Supreme Cheetor.
Big, simplified, and utterly useless.
Supreme Cheetor is still better because he actually transforms. All Grimlock does his bend over.
That's practically what SC does.
And Fortress Maximus.
And Metroplex.
Heck, when you think about it, the only "complex" supreme Transformer would be Cybertron Starscream.
						
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What about Armada Unicron and Cybertron Primus? I'd say those two are somewhat complex.
					
				
							 Comment by Mindmaster
							 Jul 4, 2014						
						
						Burn wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Mindmaster wrote:Burn wrote:Looking at Stomp and Chomp Grimlock I'm thinking he's the AoE equivalent of Beast Machines Supreme Cheetor.
Big, simplified, and utterly useless.
Supreme Cheetor is still better because he actually transforms. All Grimlock does his bend over.
That's practically what SC does.
And Fortress Maximus.
And Metroplex.
Heck, when you think about it, the only "complex" supreme Transformer would be Cybertron Starscream.
What about Armada Unicron and Cybertron Primus? I'd say those two are somewhat complex.
						
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What about Unicron? Or does he also fall under "yoga position"? At least Cheetor is still more poseable (even if he can't stand up).
					
				
							 Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
							 Jul 4, 2014						
						
						Burn wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Mindmaster wrote:Burn wrote:Looking at Stomp and Chomp Grimlock I'm thinking he's the AoE equivalent of Beast Machines Supreme Cheetor.
Big, simplified, and utterly useless.
Supreme Cheetor is still better because he actually transforms. All Grimlock does his bend over.
That's practically what SC does.
And Fortress Maximus.
And Metroplex.
Heck, when you think about it, the only "complex" supreme Transformer would be Cybertron Starscream.
What about Unicron? Or does he also fall under "yoga position"? At least Cheetor is still more poseable (even if he can't stand up).
						
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Perhaps. But they're still not nearly as big as Fort Max or Metroplex.
I don't know if Stomp & Chomp Grimlock is useless... he's the only version of Grimmy big enough for AOE [Leader] OP to ride, isn't he?
					
				
							 Comment by megatronus
							 Jul 4, 2014						
						
						Mindmaster wrote:Burn wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Mindmaster wrote:Burn wrote:Looking at Stomp and Chomp Grimlock I'm thinking he's the AoE equivalent of Beast Machines Supreme Cheetor.
Big, simplified, and utterly useless.
Supreme Cheetor is still better because he actually transforms. All Grimlock does his bend over.
That's practically what SC does.
And Fortress Maximus.
And Metroplex.
Heck, when you think about it, the only "complex" supreme Transformer would be Cybertron Starscream.
What about Armada Unicron and Cybertron Primus? I'd say those two are somewhat complex.
Perhaps. But they're still not nearly as big as Fort Max or Metroplex.
I don't know if Stomp & Chomp Grimlock is useless... he's the only version of Grimmy big enough for AOE [Leader] OP to ride, isn't he?
						
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Unicron, primus complex, supreme starscream I found to be easy to transform you three talking about complex transformation here are two for you Star Wars Death Star darth vader transformer, leader Optimus prime movie 1 and 2 versions there is complexity for you three
					
				
							 Comment by dragons
							 Jul 4, 2014						
						
						megatronus wrote:Mindmaster wrote:Burn wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Mindmaster wrote:Burn wrote:Looking at Stomp and Chomp Grimlock I'm thinking he's the AoE equivalent of Beast Machines Supreme Cheetor.
Big, simplified, and utterly useless.
Supreme Cheetor is still better because he actually transforms. All Grimlock does his bend over.
That's practically what SC does.
And Fortress Maximus.
And Metroplex.
Heck, when you think about it, the only "complex" supreme Transformer would be Cybertron Starscream.
What about Armada Unicron and Cybertron Primus? I'd say those two are somewhat complex.
Perhaps. But they're still not nearly as big as Fort Max or Metroplex.
I don't know if Stomp & Chomp Grimlock is useless... he's the only version of Grimmy big enough for AOE [Leader] OP to ride, isn't he?
Unicron, primus complex, supreme starscream I found to be easy to transform you three talking about complex transformation here are two for you Star Wars Death Star darth vader transformer, leader Optimus prime movie 1 and 2 versions there is complexity for you three
						
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							 Comment by Burn
							 Jul 4, 2014						
						
						Star Wars garbage doesn't count ('cause it's garbage) and the movie Primes are Leader class, we're talking Supreme class.
					
						
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							 Comment by Emerje
							 Jul 4, 2014						
						
						People who don't think Fort Max is complex clearly don't own one. His battle station mode isn't so impressive, but city mode folds up into a very compact form. Besides, city bots are impressive not because of the complexity of their transformations, but the fact that they have three of them. 
Emerje
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							 Comment by Sabrblade
							 Jul 4, 2014						
						
						There's also G1 Overlord to think about, who is as tall as a Unicron Trilogy Supreme class figure.
					
						
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I though size, in this case, did matter.
					
				
							 Comment by Zeedust
							 Jul 5, 2014						
						
						Emerje wrote:People who don't think Fort Max is complex clearly don't own one. His battle station mode isn't so impressive, but city mode folds up into a very compact form. Besides, city bots are impressive not because of the complexity of their transformations, but the fact that they have three of them.
Emerje
I though size, in this case, did matter.
						
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							 Comment by Superwheeljack
							 Jul 5, 2014						
						
						Got Swoop (NOT STRAFE!), Scorn, Crosshairs, HO Bee, voyager wave 1 and Drift. All of them are pretty cool. Still looking for Galvatron though...
On a scale from 1 to 10, what's Leader class prime?
					On a scale from 1 to 10, what's Leader class prime?
						
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What about Armada Unicron and Cybertron Primus? I'd say those two are somewhat complex.[/quote]
Perhaps. But they're still not nearly as big as Fort Max or Metroplex.
I don't know if Stomp & Chomp Grimlock is useless... he's the only version of Grimmy big enough for AOE [Leader] OP to ride, isn't he?[/quote]
Unicron, primus complex, supreme starscream I found to be easy to transform you three talking about complex transformation here are two for you Star Wars Death Star darth vader transformer, leader Optimus prime movie 1 and 2 versions there is complexity for you three[/quote]
Does Cybertron Primus count as supreme class? Because hes more complex than Starscream
					
				
							 Comment by william-james88
							 Jul 5, 2014						
						
						dragons wrote:That's practically what SC does.
And Fortress Maximus.
And Metroplex.
Heck, when you think about it, the only "complex" supreme Transformer would be Cybertron Starscream.
What about Armada Unicron and Cybertron Primus? I'd say those two are somewhat complex.[/quote]
Perhaps. But they're still not nearly as big as Fort Max or Metroplex.
I don't know if Stomp & Chomp Grimlock is useless... he's the only version of Grimmy big enough for AOE [Leader] OP to ride, isn't he?[/quote]
Unicron, primus complex, supreme starscream I found to be easy to transform you three talking about complex transformation here are two for you Star Wars Death Star darth vader transformer, leader Optimus prime movie 1 and 2 versions there is complexity for you three[/quote]
Does Cybertron Primus count as supreme class? Because hes more complex than Starscream
						
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							 Comment by Sabrblade
							 Jul 5, 2014						
						
						I think it ought to be pointed out that Fort Max and Generations Metroplex are not Supreme class figures. Metroplex is a Titan class toy, while Fort Max predates the size class system and belongs to none of them (though, if he were to be forced into one, he'd be the most akin to a Titan class toy).
All of the following are Supreme class toys:
Beast Machines
* Electronic Cheetor
Armada
* Unicron
Energon
* Unicron
* Omega Supreme
* Omega Sentinel
Cybertron
* Starscream
* Cybertron Primus
(Metroplex comes close, but he was sold as a Leader)
Animated
* Roll Out Command Optimus Prime
Universe (2008)
* Unicron
Revenge of the Fallen
* Constructicon Devastator (IIRC)
Welcome to Transformers 2010
* Universal Dominator Unicron
* Creator Primus
Transformers (2010)
* 25th Anniversary Unicron
Platinum Edition
* "Year of the Snake" Omega Supreme
* "Year of the Horse" Supreme Starscream
There's also the similarly-sized but much more electronically gimmick-based Ultimate class Bumblebee toys from the first movie line and ROTF.
And the Generations Fall of Cybertron Bruticus toy made up of five Deluxes, making it almost but not quite as tall as a Supreme.
					All of the following are Supreme class toys:
Beast Machines
* Electronic Cheetor
Armada
* Unicron
Energon
* Unicron
* Omega Supreme
* Omega Sentinel
Cybertron
* Starscream
* Cybertron Primus
(Metroplex comes close, but he was sold as a Leader)
Animated
* Roll Out Command Optimus Prime
Universe (2008)
* Unicron
Revenge of the Fallen
* Constructicon Devastator (IIRC)
Welcome to Transformers 2010
* Universal Dominator Unicron
* Creator Primus
Transformers (2010)
* 25th Anniversary Unicron
Platinum Edition
* "Year of the Snake" Omega Supreme
* "Year of the Horse" Supreme Starscream
There's also the similarly-sized but much more electronically gimmick-based Ultimate class Bumblebee toys from the first movie line and ROTF.
And the Generations Fall of Cybertron Bruticus toy made up of five Deluxes, making it almost but not quite as tall as a Supreme.
						
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I would say 7, where ROTF Leader Prime is an 8 or 8.5 (in my book, anyway).
					
				
							 Comment by megatronus
							 Jul 5, 2014						
						
						Superwheeljack wrote:On a scale from 1 to 10, what's Leader class prime?
I would say 7, where ROTF Leader Prime is an 8 or 8.5 (in my book, anyway).
						
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He was sold at the Supreme pricepoint. That should give you a hint.
					
				
							 Comment by Mindmaster
							 Jul 5, 2014						
						
						william-james88 wrote:Does Cybertron Primus count as supreme class? Because hes more complex than Starscream
He was sold at the Supreme pricepoint. That should give you a hint.
						
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I'll echo 7 if RotF Leader is a 9.
If you view the RotF Leader as an 8, well, then I'd say the AoE Leader Prime is a 5-6 or so on that scale. It's not a bad toy, just exceedingly average for a Leader class fig imo. Fun Factor would be one of the points bringing it that high, the design isn't super great but it has a charm about it that makes it better.
					
				
							 Comment by ScottyP
							 Jul 5, 2014						
						
						megatronus wrote:Superwheeljack wrote:On a scale from 1 to 10, what's Leader class prime?
I would say 7, where ROTF Leader Prime is an 8 or 8.5 (in my book, anyway).
I'll echo 7 if RotF Leader is a 9.
If you view the RotF Leader as an 8, well, then I'd say the AoE Leader Prime is a 5-6 or so on that scale. It's not a bad toy, just exceedingly average for a Leader class fig imo. Fun Factor would be one of the points bringing it that high, the design isn't super great but it has a charm about it that makes it better.
						
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If you want to put them farther apart, that's cool. I suppose I can firm up that 8.5 figure for ROTF Prime 
 
I see them as good in different departments, with AOE's emphasis on simplicity both bolstering (greatly on transformation) and reducing (somewhat on articulation & kibble) it's overall score. Plus there are factors of aesthetics and paints apps to consider... i.e., I give Hasbro a lot of credit for giving this Leader chrome. 
 
Overall, I like it, and invariably personal taste is what matters. 
					
				
							 Comment by megatronus
							 Jul 6, 2014						
						
						ScottyP wrote:megatronus wrote:Superwheeljack wrote:On a scale from 1 to 10, what's Leader class prime?
I would say 7, where ROTF Leader Prime is an 8 or 8.5 (in my book, anyway).
I'll echo 7 if RotF Leader is a 9.
If you view the RotF Leader as an 8, well, then I'd say the AoE Leader Prime is a 5-6 or so on that scale. It's not a bad toy, just exceedingly average for a Leader class fig imo. Fun Factor would be one of the points bringing it that high, the design isn't super great but it has a charm about it that makes it better.
If you want to put them farther apart, that's cool. I suppose I can firm up that 8.5 figure for ROTF Prime
 
 I see them as good in different departments, with AOE's emphasis on simplicity both bolstering (greatly on transformation) and reducing (somewhat on articulation & kibble) it's overall score. Plus there are factors of aesthetics and paints apps to consider... i.e., I give Hasbro a lot of credit for giving this Leader chrome.
 
 Overall, I like it, and invariably personal taste is what matters.

 
					 
			 
								 
								 
								 
								 
								 
								