TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand
Friday, January 15th, 2016 10:51PM CST
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Greetings fellow Seibertronians! It's been a while since we've had news on the upcoming Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide, but Weibo user 金属键盘RJ has somehow scored a proto-type of the old timer and uploaded some pics. He's got a pile of accessories including the "battle station" once thought to make up a parts-formery transformation. Additionally, Youtuber Liam Pope has shared a video of what he believes to be the MP's transformation scheme. It looks like he's done his homework and it's worth a gander. See the pics and video below and stay tuned to Seibertron.com: home for the best Galleries and Conversation around!
Credit(s): 金属键盘RJ, Liam Pope, Fenrir72
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Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1756017)
Posted by Bounti76 on January 15th, 2016 @ 11:16pm CST
Posted by Bounti76 on January 15th, 2016 @ 11:16pm CST
Man.... still with those awkward proportions and big gap behind his waist. He and Ratchet may be the first MPs I pass up since 2009. 
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1756023)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 15th, 2016 @ 11:40pm CST
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on January 15th, 2016 @ 11:40pm CST
Neat to see the battle sled is all an accessory and not actually part of the figure 
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1756027)
Posted by durroth on January 15th, 2016 @ 11:58pm CST
Posted by durroth on January 15th, 2016 @ 11:58pm CST
I wonder if he's mistransformable to his g1 toy form
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1756144)
Posted by Desslok2201 on January 16th, 2016 @ 1:28pm CST
Look at the shoulder pic, this obviously is mis-transformed. I'm still holding out hope that this is going to be another one like Bumblebee that looks way better in hand.
Posted by Desslok2201 on January 16th, 2016 @ 1:28pm CST
Bounti76 wrote:Man.... still with those awkward proportions and big gap behind his waist. He and Ratchet may be the first MPs I pass up since 2009.
Look at the shoulder pic, this obviously is mis-transformed. I'm still holding out hope that this is going to be another one like Bumblebee that looks way better in hand.
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1756151)
Posted by dragons on January 16th, 2016 @ 2:03pm CST
If I had I had dollar everyone someone said this I would not need no job
Posted by dragons on January 16th, 2016 @ 2:03pm CST
durroth wrote:I wonder if he's mistransformable to his g1 toy form
If I had I had dollar everyone someone said this I would not need no job
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1756164)
Posted by Amelie on January 16th, 2016 @ 2:42pm CST
Posted by Amelie on January 16th, 2016 @ 2:42pm CST
Looks like the design decision to give it the "toy" head poking through the window (which, I might add - I think looks awful has caused a lot of other sacrifices to be made in the design process. The front of the van was completely filled in anyway, so it feels like the volume could have been used a lot more intelligently.
After Grimlock and Rodimus Prime, you'd think they'd have learnt not to sacrifice the overall final figure for the sake of a crap gimmick.
The head is nearly behind his waist, even. The more I look - the worse it gets. At least the face sculpt is tasty.
This toy has replaced Megatron as my 'worst' Masterpiece figure.
After Grimlock and Rodimus Prime, you'd think they'd have learnt not to sacrifice the overall final figure for the sake of a crap gimmick.
The head is nearly behind his waist, even. The more I look - the worse it gets. At least the face sculpt is tasty.
This toy has replaced Megatron as my 'worst' Masterpiece figure.
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1756167)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on January 16th, 2016 @ 2:48pm CST
But for me, Ratchet actually looks pretty sexy not gonna lie.
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on January 16th, 2016 @ 2:48pm CST
Amelie wrote:Looks like the design decision to give it the "toy" head poking through the window (which, I might add - I think looks awful has caused a lot of other sacrifices to be made in the design process. The front of the van was completely filled in anyway, so it feels like the volume could have been used a lot more intelligently.
After Grimlock and Rodimus Prime, you'd think they'd have learnt not to sacrifice the overall final figure for the sake of a crap gimmick.
The head is nearly behind his waist, even. The more I look - the worse it gets. At least the face sculpt is tasty.
This toy has replaced Megatron as my 'worst' Masterpiece figure.
But for me, Ratchet actually looks pretty sexy not gonna lie.
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1756235)
Posted by Mr_Autobot411 on January 16th, 2016 @ 6:50pm CST
Posted by Mr_Autobot411 on January 16th, 2016 @ 6:50pm CST
its cool they are voyager size, but i personally feel the ball has been dropped, hes off, from head sculpt to proportions etc. Weird u go back wards in design from an awesome wheeljack, bee etc to this. I think they changed designers and it def shows. Looking like a pass for me 
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1756264)
Posted by Emerje on January 16th, 2016 @ 7:59pm CST
Yikes! I don't think he's nearly that bad. You can tell they at least tried to make him cartoon accurate in the face, arms, pelvis, and legs. It's the middle where they screwed up. That's the exact opposite of MP Megatron where the only good thing about him is his mid/upper torso. Pretty sure Ironhide wont suffer from permanent tarnishing either.
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on January 16th, 2016 @ 7:59pm CST
Amelie wrote:This toy has replaced Megatron as my 'worst' Masterpiece figure.
Yikes! I don't think he's nearly that bad. You can tell they at least tried to make him cartoon accurate in the face, arms, pelvis, and legs. It's the middle where they screwed up. That's the exact opposite of MP Megatron where the only good thing about him is his mid/upper torso. Pretty sure Ironhide wont suffer from permanent tarnishing either.
Emerje
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1756268)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on January 16th, 2016 @ 8:12pm CST
Maybe try part mixing them?
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on January 16th, 2016 @ 8:12pm CST
Emerje wrote:Amelie wrote:This toy has replaced Megatron as my 'worst' Masterpiece figure.
Yikes! I don't think he's nearly that bad. You can tell they at least tried to make him cartoon accurate in the face, arms, pelvis, and legs. It's the middle where they screwed up. That's the exact opposite of MP Megatron where the only good thing about him is his mid/upper torso. Pretty sure Ironhide wont suffer from permanent tarnishing either.
Emerje
Maybe try part mixing them?
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1756269)
Posted by spiderbob007 on January 16th, 2016 @ 8:12pm CST
Posted by spiderbob007 on January 16th, 2016 @ 8:12pm CST
Design ascetics aside, the one question that is nagging at me is; Whose filthy gross-ass mug is that, and why is it in the picture, and when was it last washed, and what the hell is that brown crude: coffee, tea, hot chocolate, poop?
Nasty!
Nasty!
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1756276)
Posted by Amelie on January 16th, 2016 @ 8:32pm CST
Megatron has the excuse that his alt-mode was a limiting factor in his robot mode effectiveness. Plus he was designed in mere days.
Ironhide is a box-van that turns into a very boxy robot. Sure, theres a lot of morphing in the show - but with all that mass - getting a boxy robot should not have been the issue its made out to be.
Posted by Amelie on January 16th, 2016 @ 8:32pm CST
Emerje wrote:Yikes! I don't think he's nearly that bad. You can tell they at least tried to make him cartoon accurate in the face, arms, pelvis, and legs. It's the middle where they screwed up. That's the exact opposite of MP Megatron where the only good thing about him is his mid/upper torso. Pretty sure Ironhide wont suffer from permanent tarnishing either.
Emerje
Megatron has the excuse that his alt-mode was a limiting factor in his robot mode effectiveness. Plus he was designed in mere days.
Ironhide is a box-van that turns into a very boxy robot. Sure, theres a lot of morphing in the show - but with all that mass - getting a boxy robot should not have been the issue its made out to be.
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1756285)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on January 16th, 2016 @ 9:00pm CST
Oh my gosh you're right! I never look at what's in the background for some reason. So gross.
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on January 16th, 2016 @ 9:00pm CST
spiderbob007 wrote:Design ascetics aside, the one question that is nagging at me is; Whose filthy gross-ass mug is that, and why is it in the picture, and when was it last washed, and what the hell is that brown crude: coffee, tea, hot chocolate, poop?
Nasty!
Oh my gosh you're right! I never look at what's in the background for some reason. So gross.
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1756311)
Posted by Emerje on January 16th, 2016 @ 10:52pm CST
Why do people bring up that he was designed in less than two weeks like that makes it OK? That makes him rushed garbage! Like it or not he's still an official retail Masterpiece figure and should be judged and compared accordingly. Plus we've seen considerably better and smaller Megatrons from third parties for a while now so the shape of the gun mode really doesn't matter much. Saying it's a "limiting factor" is the same as saying they can't make a better one and they most certainly can (and eventually will).
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on January 16th, 2016 @ 10:52pm CST
Amelie wrote:Emerje wrote:Yikes! I don't think he's nearly that bad. You can tell they at least tried to make him cartoon accurate in the face, arms, pelvis, and legs. It's the middle where they screwed up. That's the exact opposite of MP Megatron where the only good thing about him is his mid/upper torso. Pretty sure Ironhide wont suffer from permanent tarnishing either.
Emerje
Megatron has the excuse that his alt-mode was a limiting factor in his robot mode effectiveness. Plus he was designed in mere days.
Why do people bring up that he was designed in less than two weeks like that makes it OK? That makes him rushed garbage! Like it or not he's still an official retail Masterpiece figure and should be judged and compared accordingly. Plus we've seen considerably better and smaller Megatrons from third parties for a while now so the shape of the gun mode really doesn't matter much. Saying it's a "limiting factor" is the same as saying they can't make a better one and they most certainly can (and eventually will).
Emerje
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1756451)
Posted by fenrir72 on January 17th, 2016 @ 7:04am CST
Not giving him (TT) a free pass but try doing a project yourself with a 2 week deadline. Compare that with a years worth with what was with Star Saber. Same engineer.
Could TT made a better Megatron? Given then and now, of course. But then, the engineers/designers are only human.
Posted by fenrir72 on January 17th, 2016 @ 7:04am CST
Emerje wrote:Amelie wrote:Emerje wrote:Yikes! I don't think he's nearly that bad. You can tell they at least tried to make him cartoon accurate in the face, arms, pelvis, and legs. It's the middle where they screwed up. That's the exact opposite of MP Megatron where the only good thing about him is his mid/upper torso. Pretty sure Ironhide wont suffer from permanent tarnishing either.
Emerje
Megatron has the excuse that his alt-mode was a limiting factor in his robot mode effectiveness. Plus he was designed in mere days.
Why do people bring up that he was designed in less than two weeks like that makes it OK? That makes him rushed garbage! Like it or not he's still an official retail Masterpiece figure and should be judged and compared accordingly. Plus we've seen considerably better and smaller Megatrons from third parties for a while now so the shape of the gun mode really doesn't matter much. Saying it's a "limiting factor" is the same as saying they can't make a better one and they most certainly can (and eventually will).
Emerje
Not giving him (TT) a free pass but try doing a project yourself with a 2 week deadline. Compare that with a years worth with what was with Star Saber. Same engineer.
Could TT made a better Megatron? Given then and now, of course. But then, the engineers/designers are only human.
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1756734)
Posted by Emerje on January 17th, 2016 @ 11:28pm CST
But he DIDN'T do the project himself. He designed it himself, but he wasn't the one that set the time tables and pushed an inferior product out the door. Takara could have realized they were being unreasonable and given the project more time, but they didn't. We waited nearly three years for the MP-03 mold to be released after MP-01, there was no need to push Megatron only six months after
Starscream, especially when we wouldn't see the next new mold, Grimlock, for two more years.
Why are we suddenly making excuses?
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on January 17th, 2016 @ 11:28pm CST
fenrir72 wrote:Not giving him (TT) a free pass but try doing a project yourself with a 2 week deadline.
But he DIDN'T do the project himself. He designed it himself, but he wasn't the one that set the time tables and pushed an inferior product out the door. Takara could have realized they were being unreasonable and given the project more time, but they didn't. We waited nearly three years for the MP-03 mold to be released after MP-01, there was no need to push Megatron only six months after
Starscream, especially when we wouldn't see the next new mold, Grimlock, for two more years.
Why are we suddenly making excuses?
Emerje
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1756737)
Posted by fenrir72 on January 17th, 2016 @ 11:37pm CST
Not an excuse but more on empathy with the engineer. If you know JP culture, a nail that stands out gets it in the head and put in his "place" by a hammer.
An analogy, Xbox360 was released despite the engineers being wary on how the circuit board used environmental friendly solders, this is said to be the cause of the RROD. They warned the suits but still the corporate slugs had the last say...release the product like yesterday! Even if you want to stand by your idealistic principles, real life politics trumps over the former......as in do you still want a job tomorrow?
I take it you haven't had the "man" from upstairs breathe on your neck to deliver a product like "yesterday"? Corporate, medical or political environments.........they are all the same kimosabe.
You need to choose your battles wisely.
Posted by fenrir72 on January 17th, 2016 @ 11:37pm CST
Emerje wrote:fenrir72 wrote:Not giving him (TT) a free pass but try doing a project yourself with a 2 week deadline.
But he DIDN'T do the project himself. He designed it himself, but he wasn't the one that set the time tables and pushed an inferior product out the door. Takara could have realized they were being unreasonable and given the project more time, but they didn't. We waited nearly three years for the MP-03 mold to be released after MP-01, there was no need to push Megatron only six months after
Starscream, especially when we wouldn't see the next new mold, Grimlock, for two more years.
Why are we suddenly making excuses?
Emerje
Not an excuse but more on empathy with the engineer. If you know JP culture, a nail that stands out gets it in the head and put in his "place" by a hammer.
An analogy, Xbox360 was released despite the engineers being wary on how the circuit board used environmental friendly solders, this is said to be the cause of the RROD. They warned the suits but still the corporate slugs had the last say...release the product like yesterday! Even if you want to stand by your idealistic principles, real life politics trumps over the former......as in do you still want a job tomorrow?
I take it you haven't had the "man" from upstairs breathe on your neck to deliver a product like "yesterday"? Corporate, medical or political environments.........they are all the same kimosabe.
You need to choose your battles wisely.
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1757057)
Posted by shajaki on January 18th, 2016 @ 10:19pm CST
Posted by shajaki on January 18th, 2016 @ 10:19pm CST
A few days ago we showed you some proto-type shots of TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide, and now a video review has surfaced! Freshly Youtube'd by Vamphaery, though unfortunately for us Westerners it's in Chinese. But hey, if a picture is worth a thousand words then a video (in any language) is worth what... at least a thousand and twelve? Perhaps someone out there can help translate, but in the mean time we can enjoy seeing his transformation. See the video below (thanks to Seibertronian Mr O!) and stay tuned to Seibertron.com: home for the best Galleries and Conversation around!
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1757062)
Posted by shajaki on January 18th, 2016 @ 10:34pm CST
Posted by shajaki on January 18th, 2016 @ 10:34pm CST
Don't ask me why, but that not great quality video in a language I don't know, FOR SOME reason makes me feel good about this figure.
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1757064)
Posted by fenrir72 on January 18th, 2016 @ 10:47pm CST
Unless some design flaws show up, I feel this will be just like BB. Once in hand, will end up looking/playing awesome.
Posted by fenrir72 on January 18th, 2016 @ 10:47pm CST
shajaki wrote:Don't ask me why, but that not great quality video in a language I don't know, FOR SOME reason makes me feel good about this figure.
Unless some design flaws show up, I feel this will be just like BB. Once in hand, will end up looking/playing awesome.
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1757066)
Posted by shajaki on January 18th, 2016 @ 10:52pm CST
YES! JOIN ME IN MP IRONHIDE POSITIVITY!! 
Posted by shajaki on January 18th, 2016 @ 10:52pm CST
fenrir72 wrote:Unless some design flaws show up, I feel this will be just like BB. Once in hand, will end up looking/playing awesome.shajaki wrote:Don't ask me why, but that not great quality video in a language I don't know, FOR SOME reason makes me feel good about this figure.
YES! JOIN ME IN MP IRONHIDE POSITIVITY!!
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1757067)
Posted by Cobotron on January 18th, 2016 @ 10:58pm CST
Posted by Cobotron on January 18th, 2016 @ 10:58pm CST
Did you say positivity? Sign me up! I'm excited for this guy for sure.shajaki wrote:fenrir72 wrote:Unless some design flaws show up, I feel this will be just like BB. Once in hand, will end up looking/playing awesome.shajaki wrote:Don't ask me why, but that not great quality video in a language I don't know, FOR SOME reason makes me feel good about this figure.
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1757068)
Posted by megatronus on January 18th, 2016 @ 10:59pm CST
Posted by megatronus on January 18th, 2016 @ 10:59pm CST
Here comes a Debbie Downer to rain on your parade!
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1757070)
Posted by fenrir72 on January 18th, 2016 @ 11:04pm CST
If there is a god, there must be a demon, if there is the chojin, there too must be kyu..........
Every individual has it role in the cosmos 
Like Tracks/Roadrage mold, aside from the neck locking or lack of it and the backpack wings clearance, UM with no waist twisty/central robot etc etc, no MP is almost perfect.
Posted by fenrir72 on January 18th, 2016 @ 11:04pm CST
megatronus wrote:Here comes a Debbie Downer to rain on your parade!
If there is a god, there must be a demon, if there is the chojin, there too must be kyu..........
Every individual has it role in the cosmos Like Tracks/Roadrage mold, aside from the neck locking or lack of it and the backpack wings clearance, UM with no waist twisty/central robot etc etc, no MP is almost perfect.
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1757113)
Posted by bigcee66 on January 19th, 2016 @ 12:22pm CST
Posted by bigcee66 on January 19th, 2016 @ 12:22pm CST
nevermind lol
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1757532)
Posted by galvatron00 on January 20th, 2016 @ 10:08am CST
Also, 60 frames per second (think of it as 60 pictures per second) x 60 seconds per minute x 25 minutes and 2 seconds x 1000 words per picture = 90,120,000 words!!!
#TEAMPOSITIVITY!!!!!
Posted by galvatron00 on January 20th, 2016 @ 10:08am CST
Hooray! Ironhide and Ratchet are gonna be greatshajaki wrote:Freshly Youtube'd by Vamphaery, though unfortunately for us Westerners it's in Chinese. But hey, if a picture is worth a thousand words then a video (in any language) is worth what... at least a thousand and twelve?
Also, 60 frames per second (think of it as 60 pictures per second) x 60 seconds per minute x 25 minutes and 2 seconds x 1000 words per picture = 90,120,000 words!!!
#TEAMPOSITIVITY!!!!!
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1757581)
Posted by Cobotron on January 20th, 2016 @ 11:33am CST
Posted by Cobotron on January 20th, 2016 @ 11:33am CST
itscramtastic wrote:#TEAMPOSITIVITY!!!!!
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1758933)
Posted by fenrir72 on January 23rd, 2016 @ 11:05pm CST
Posted by fenrir72 on January 23rd, 2016 @ 11:05pm CST
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1758934)
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on January 23rd, 2016 @ 11:20pm CST
That looks awesome.
Posted by DedicatedGhostArt on January 23rd, 2016 @ 11:20pm CST
fenrir72 wrote:https://www.facebook.com/T3HobbyShop/posts/734312300039645
That looks awesome.
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1758941)
Posted by shajaki on January 23rd, 2016 @ 11:53pm CST
Posted by shajaki on January 23rd, 2016 @ 11:53pm CST
Greetings fellow Seibertronians, tonight we bring you the first in-box, out-of-box, hot off the line TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide! Thanks to T3-Hobby Store and Fenrir of our Energon Pub, we get to see the old timer in all his Masterpiece'y glory. This all makes sense since he's set to be released this month some time, so wait for your pre-orders to start rolling in. There's some great shots of him in both modes, and next to his MP bretheren below. Have a look, and stay tuned to Seibertron.com: home for the best Galleries and Conversation around!
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1758946)
Posted by Microraptor on January 24th, 2016 @ 12:56am CST
Posted by Microraptor on January 24th, 2016 @ 12:56am CST
God, that hip-kibble is atrocious....I wouldn't mind, but the design team can do so much better.
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1758947)
Posted by kurthy on January 24th, 2016 @ 12:59am CST
Posted by kurthy on January 24th, 2016 @ 12:59am CST
Is Ironhide slightly mistransformed in these pictures. It looks like his lower bumper is pushed in more than the stock art shows, and I think it looks better!
I'm going to get this figure eventually, but my wish is that the bumper/windshield had been two pieces so that it could be somewhat flat on his chest and cover up the diaper a little, so it would be less obvious, which I think the mistransformation almost pulls off.
I'm going to get this figure eventually, but my wish is that the bumper/windshield had been two pieces so that it could be somewhat flat on his chest and cover up the diaper a little, so it would be less obvious, which I think the mistransformation almost pulls off.
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1758948)
Posted by Torneira on January 24th, 2016 @ 1:09am CST
Posted by Torneira on January 24th, 2016 @ 1:09am CST
"Your days are numbered now, Decepti-creeps!"
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Posted by BumbleDouche on January 24th, 2016 @ 1:29am CST
Posted by BumbleDouche on January 24th, 2016 @ 1:29am CST
As much as I'd like to have Ironhide & Ratchet, I just can't accept these molds as definitive versions. A simple Google search for "3rd party Ratchet/Ironhide" shows some far superior designs. Has/Tak have got to seriously question their standards when 3rd party companies start making better versions of their own characters.
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1758951)
Posted by Randomhero on January 24th, 2016 @ 1:45am CST
Maybe some people don't mind this design and would rather have an official one and support the company that created those characters instead of buying from someone whose infringing on another's intellectual property and slapping a reprolabel symbol on it after word.
Posted by Randomhero on January 24th, 2016 @ 1:45am CST
MegaDump wrote:As much as I'd like to have Ironhide & Ratchet, I just can't accept these molds as definitive versions. A simple Google search for "3rd party Ratchet/Ironhide" shows some far superior designs. Has/Tak have got to seriously question their standards when 3rd party companies start making better versions of their own characters.
Maybe some people don't mind this design and would rather have an official one and support the company that created those characters instead of buying from someone whose infringing on another's intellectual property and slapping a reprolabel symbol on it after word.
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1758952)
Posted by wilcosu35 on January 24th, 2016 @ 1:54am CST
That's basically why i'm getting this one. I'm not against 3rd party stuff, but in the case of Masterpieces i will always buy official figures when i have the choice.
Posted by wilcosu35 on January 24th, 2016 @ 1:54am CST
Randomhero wrote:MegaDump wrote:As much as I'd like to have Ironhide & Ratchet, I just can't accept these molds as definitive versions. A simple Google search for "3rd party Ratchet/Ironhide" shows some far superior designs. Has/Tak have got to seriously question their standards when 3rd party companies start making better versions of their own characters.
Maybe some people don't mind this design and would rather have an official one and support the company that created those characters instead of buying from someone whose infringing on another's intellectual property and slapping a reprolabel symbol on it after word.
That's basically why i'm getting this one. I'm not against 3rd party stuff, but in the case of Masterpieces i will always buy official figures when i have the choice.
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1758953)
Posted by fenrir72 on January 24th, 2016 @ 2:02am CST
Ditto!
If given the choice between tofu steak and Kobe/Angus steak, I'd take the latter anytime!
Posted by fenrir72 on January 24th, 2016 @ 2:02am CST
wilcosu35 wrote:Randomhero wrote:MegaDump wrote:As much as I'd like to have Ironhide & Ratchet, I just can't accept these molds as definitive versions. A simple Google search for "3rd party Ratchet/Ironhide" shows some far superior designs. Has/Tak have got to seriously question their standards when 3rd party companies start making better versions of their own characters.
Maybe some people don't mind this design and would rather have an official one and support the company that created those characters instead of buying from someone whose infringing on another's intellectual property and slapping a reprolabel symbol on it after word.
That's basically why i'm getting this one. I'm not against 3rd party stuff, but in the case of Masterpieces i will always buy official figures when i have the choice.
Ditto!
If given the choice between tofu steak and Kobe/Angus steak, I'd take the latter anytime!
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1758972)
Posted by Kup98ss on January 24th, 2016 @ 5:04am CST
Posted by Kup98ss on January 24th, 2016 @ 5:04am CST
The diaper doesn't bother me. Though his arms are a bit short and the hip kibble bothers me more than it should. I hope you can pop off the hip flaps. I'll get him. I think when compared to 3rd party companies he is better than most. And it looks like Takara is learning from the 3rd parties by adding a ton of extras which is awesome.
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1758973)
Posted by Emerje on January 24th, 2016 @ 5:07am CST
Plus, at least for me, none of the third party Ironhides look G1 enough.
Not TFC Ironwill and Medic
Not Voodoo Robots Animus and Salus
And definitely not iGear Weapon Specialist and Medical Specialist
They all have something really bothersome about them, as does the official Masterpiece, so why bother with anything but the real thing?
Emerje
Posted by Emerje on January 24th, 2016 @ 5:07am CST
fenrir72 wrote:wilcosu35 wrote:Randomhero wrote:MegaDump wrote:As much as I'd like to have Ironhide & Ratchet, I just can't accept these molds as definitive versions. A simple Google search for "3rd party Ratchet/Ironhide" shows some far superior designs. Has/Tak have got to seriously question their standards when 3rd party companies start making better versions of their own characters.
Maybe some people don't mind this design and would rather have an official one and support the company that created those characters instead of buying from someone whose infringing on another's intellectual property and slapping a reprolabel symbol on it after word.
That's basically why i'm getting this one. I'm not against 3rd party stuff, but in the case of Masterpieces i will always buy official figures when i have the choice.
Ditto!
If given the choice between tofu steak and Kobe/Angus steak, I'd take the latter anytime!
Plus, at least for me, none of the third party Ironhides look G1 enough.
Not TFC Ironwill and Medic
Not Voodoo Robots Animus and Salus
And definitely not iGear Weapon Specialist and Medical Specialist
They all have something really bothersome about them, as does the official Masterpiece, so why bother with anything but the real thing?
Emerje
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1758976)
Posted by BumbleDouche on January 24th, 2016 @ 5:20am CST
Guys, sorry if I didn't make my position more clear. I myself only buy the official releases; if it doesn't have a Has/Tak stamp, it's not a REAL Transformer in my book. I agree that supporting companies that infringe copyright is not ideal, but I can understand WHY some people do it. But if the goal of the Masterpiece line, especially from Takara, is to make the toy look as much like the cartoon as possible, surely we can agree that this mold is poorly executed. My main point was that toy-making powerhouses such as Hasbro & Takara should be LEADING the charge with exquisite designs. Instead, third-rate Chinese sweatshops are coming up with better solutions to solving the same problems. In this instance, I've seen alternate designs for Ratchet & Ironhide that are far superior. I understand there are people who like this design, but consider previous MP releases: who has a problem with MP Wheeljack? Prowl? Sideswipe? Nobody, or I'll eat my own fist. In short, it's not the Masterpiece I was expecting. This doesn't mean I'll stoop to buying a 3rd party figure, it means I wont be buying ANY of the Ratchet/Ironhide, at least until the design is improved.
Posted by BumbleDouche on January 24th, 2016 @ 5:20am CST
fenrir72 wrote:wilcosu35 wrote:Randomhero wrote:MegaDump wrote:As much as I'd like to have Ironhide & Ratchet, I just can't accept these molds as definitive versions. A simple Google search for "3rd party Ratchet/Ironhide" shows some far superior designs. Has/Tak have got to seriously question their standards when 3rd party companies start making better versions of their own characters.
Maybe some people don't mind this design and would rather have an official one and support the company that created those characters instead of buying from someone whose infringing on another's intellectual property and slapping a reprolabel symbol on it after word.
That's basically why i'm getting this one. I'm not against 3rd party stuff, but in the case of Masterpieces i will always buy official figures when i have the choice.
Ditto!
If given the choice between tofu steak and Kobe/Angus steak, I'd take the latter anytime!
Guys, sorry if I didn't make my position more clear. I myself only buy the official releases; if it doesn't have a Has/Tak stamp, it's not a REAL Transformer in my book. I agree that supporting companies that infringe copyright is not ideal, but I can understand WHY some people do it. But if the goal of the Masterpiece line, especially from Takara, is to make the toy look as much like the cartoon as possible, surely we can agree that this mold is poorly executed. My main point was that toy-making powerhouses such as Hasbro & Takara should be LEADING the charge with exquisite designs. Instead, third-rate Chinese sweatshops are coming up with better solutions to solving the same problems. In this instance, I've seen alternate designs for Ratchet & Ironhide that are far superior. I understand there are people who like this design, but consider previous MP releases: who has a problem with MP Wheeljack? Prowl? Sideswipe? Nobody, or I'll eat my own fist. In short, it's not the Masterpiece I was expecting. This doesn't mean I'll stoop to buying a 3rd party figure, it means I wont be buying ANY of the Ratchet/Ironhide, at least until the design is improved.
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1758978)
Posted by Mykltron on January 24th, 2016 @ 6:06am CST
Posted by Mykltron on January 24th, 2016 @ 6:06am CST
His proportions in robot mode are so far off this doesn't deserve the title 'Masterpiece'. I would love to support the official company but Voodoo Robots have done so much better. Sadly, I can't get that one for a decent price so instead I will buy neither because this thing just doesn't look good.
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1758982)
Posted by DMSL on January 24th, 2016 @ 7:09am CST
Posted by DMSL on January 24th, 2016 @ 7:09am CST
I am not getting him, i already bought way too many MP's and i don't have the room for them. I don't want to make room for this one since he just looks so lackluster. The figure is very lanky, the transformation lazy and the chest....i don't like it at all.
In all honesty i think it would have been better if the lower part of the vehicle became that mobile base/sled thing the original had to clean up the botmode.
The only MP i still want is Jazz and perhaps Sunstreaker. I am already thining of getting rid of the Nissan bro's to make some space. All my older MP's are definately going apart from MP01. I'm just more of a CHUG guy.
In all honesty i think it would have been better if the lower part of the vehicle became that mobile base/sled thing the original had to clean up the botmode.
The only MP i still want is Jazz and perhaps Sunstreaker. I am already thining of getting rid of the Nissan bro's to make some space. All my older MP's are definately going apart from MP01. I'm just more of a CHUG guy.
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1758986)
Posted by Amelie on January 24th, 2016 @ 7:31am CST
Posted by Amelie on January 24th, 2016 @ 7:31am CST
- Spindly, weird neck.
- Questionable gimmick in van mode ruining robot mode.
- Neck is behind back of waist.
- Butt-wheels and waist kibble.
- Even the sled doesn't look right (where are the tracks?)
Come back, Hasui - we miss you
- Questionable gimmick in van mode ruining robot mode.
- Neck is behind back of waist.
- Butt-wheels and waist kibble.
- Even the sled doesn't look right (where are the tracks?)
Come back, Hasui - we miss you
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1758991)
Posted by Fox Thiagarajan on January 24th, 2016 @ 8:10am CST
Posted by Fox Thiagarajan on January 24th, 2016 @ 8:10am CST
Preorder can't be in stock sooner imo.
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1758994)
Posted by Deathsaurus1 on January 24th, 2016 @ 8:43am CST
Why do people hate his the waist kibble?
Don't compare just to the cartoon. The masterpiece representation of every character should be seen as a new iteration of said character. Nothing is bad about Ironhide. Unless he has a problem where one hinge is prone to break, like mp3's wing hinges. Or fragile like mp5. Than he is looking solid.
Kibble to me is something that hinders the robot mode.
Posted by Deathsaurus1 on January 24th, 2016 @ 8:43am CST
MegaDump wrote:fenrir72 wrote:wilcosu35 wrote:Randomhero wrote:MegaDump wrote:As much as I'd like to have Ironhide & Ratchet, I just can't accept these molds as definitive versions. A simple Google search for "3rd party Ratchet/Ironhide" shows some far superior designs. Has/Tak have got to seriously question their standards when 3rd party companies start making better versions of their own characters.
Maybe some people don't mind this design and would rather have an official one and support the company that created those characters instead of buying from someone whose infringing on another's intellectual property and slapping a reprolabel symbol on it after word.
That's basically why i'm getting this one. I'm not against 3rd party stuff, but in the case of Masterpieces i will always buy official figures when i have the choice.
Ditto!
If given the choice between tofu steak and Kobe/Angus steak, I'd take the latter anytime!
Guys, sorry if I didn't make my position more clear. I myself only buy the official releases; if it doesn't have a Has/Tak stamp, it's not a REAL Transformer in my book. I agree that supporting companies that infringe copyright is not ideal, but I can understand WHY some people do it. But if the goal of the Masterpiece line, especially from Takara, is to make the toy look as much like the cartoon as possible, surely we can agree that this mold is poorly executed. My main point was that toy-making powerhouses such as Hasbro & Takara should be LEADING the charge with exquisite designs. Instead, third-rate Chinese sweatshops are coming up with better solutions to solving the same problems. In this instance, I've seen alternate designs for Ratchet & Ironhide that are far superior. I understand there are people who like this design, but consider previous MP releases: who has a problem with MP Wheeljack? Prowl? Sideswipe? Nobody, or I'll eat my own fist. In short, it's not the Masterpiece I was expecting. This doesn't mean I'll stoop to buying a 3rd party figure, it means I wont be buying ANY of the Ratchet/Ironhide, at least until the design is improved.
Why do people hate his the waist kibble?
Don't compare just to the cartoon. The masterpiece representation of every character should be seen as a new iteration of said character. Nothing is bad about Ironhide. Unless he has a problem where one hinge is prone to break, like mp3's wing hinges. Or fragile like mp5. Than he is looking solid.
Kibble to me is something that hinders the robot mode.
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1759029)
Posted by megatronus on January 24th, 2016 @ 10:26am CST
It looks the waist kibble DOES hinder the robot mode.
Posted by megatronus on January 24th, 2016 @ 10:26am CST
Deathsaurus1 wrote:Why do people hate his the waist kibble?
Don't compare just to the cartoon. The masterpiece representation of every character should be seen as a new iteration of said character. Nothing is bad about Ironhide. Unless he has a problem where one hinge is prone to break, like mp3's wing hinges. Or fragile like mp5. Than he is looking solid.
Kibble to me is something that hinders the robot mode.
It looks the waist kibble DOES hinder the robot mode.
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1759064)
Posted by Solrac333 on January 24th, 2016 @ 12:23pm CST
Maybe some people would rather buy superior versions of the character no matter WHO makes it. Besides, all Hasbro did all those years ago was get the Diaclone figures and "slapped" Transformers on it.
Posted by Solrac333 on January 24th, 2016 @ 12:23pm CST
Randomhero wrote:MegaDump wrote:As much as I'd like to have Ironhide & Ratchet, I just can't accept these molds as definitive versions. A simple Google search for "3rd party Ratchet/Ironhide" shows some far superior designs. Has/Tak have got to seriously question their standards when 3rd party companies start making better versions of their own characters.
Maybe some people don't mind this design and would rather have an official one and support the company that created those characters instead of buying from someone whose infringing on another's intellectual property and slapping a reprolabel symbol on it after word.
Maybe some people would rather buy superior versions of the character no matter WHO makes it. Besides, all Hasbro did all those years ago was get the Diaclone figures and "slapped" Transformers on it.
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1759066)
Posted by munkimus prime on January 24th, 2016 @ 12:39pm CST
Posted by munkimus prime on January 24th, 2016 @ 12:39pm CST
I just don't get the hate this figure is receiving. This is probably the definitive version of Ironhide we will ever get. One more thing where would the side skirts and wheels on his butt go since in the cartoon his Transformation defied the laws of physics with all his vehicle mode bits just disappearing into nothing. What do you people want the designers to do, use black Magic to copy a design that in Robot mode had zero vehicle bits on show to work with and still transform into a van. I doubt even Hasui could of engineered that and still make it look good. This figure is probably the best anyone could do with the design they had to work with and all we can do is be perfectionists who nit-pick every detail. 
Re: TakaraTomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-27 Ironhide Proto-Type In Hand (1759072)
Posted by galvatron00 on January 24th, 2016 @ 12:58pm CST
Posted by galvatron00 on January 24th, 2016 @ 12:58pm CST
I'm not sure either..munkimus prime wrote:I just don't get the hate this figure is receiving. This is probably the definitive version of Ironhide we will ever get.
Cobotron wrote:itscramtastic wrote:#TEAMPOSITIVITY!!!!!
I guess the only thing that would've been REALLY cool is if the side skirts could cover the butt wheels. I know they can't, butt it would've been neat. Either way, he, Ratchet, Hot Rod 2.0 and Shockwave are already pre-ordered and paid for, I'm just practicing what Cobotron has taught me: ninja-like patiencemunkimus prime wrote:One more thing where would the side skirts and wheels on his butt go since in the cartoon his Transformation defied the laws of physics with all his vehicle mode bits just disappearing into nothing....This figure is probably the best anyone could do with the design they had to work with and all we can do is be perfectionists who nit-pick every detail.
