Third-Party Mount St. Hillary Playset
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Posted by BeastProwl on January 15th, 2012 @ 2:19pm CST
Posted by Dead Metal on January 15th, 2012 @ 2:21pm CST
But I'll resist, it's still pretty kick ass though.
Posted by DISCHARGE on January 15th, 2012 @ 2:25pm CST
Posted by SW's SilverHammer on January 15th, 2012 @ 2:37pm CST
One, that's neat I wouldn't buy but it's neat.
and Two , We all know It's Mount St. Helens why not just call it that.
Posted by IAmThePeej on January 15th, 2012 @ 3:09pm CST
SW's SilverHammer wrote:and Two , We all know It's Mount St. Helens why not just call it that.
because it was called Mount St. Hilary in the cartoon as well.
back on topic, this is probably one of the greatest things I've ever seen on this site.
Posted by morphobots on January 15th, 2012 @ 3:16pm CST
Posted by Heckfire on January 15th, 2012 @ 3:18pm CST
Posted by GetRightRobot on January 15th, 2012 @ 3:54pm CST
Posted by Skullcrunchberries on January 15th, 2012 @ 4:45pm CST
I do however, like I said, really like the idea, and I think the scale is perfect. I just hope they can take this idea and do something a little more with it down the road.
Posted by MGrotusque on January 15th, 2012 @ 4:58pm CST
Posted by Lapse Of Reason on January 15th, 2012 @ 5:11pm CST
Posted by RK_Striker_JK_5 on January 15th, 2012 @ 5:36pm CST
Posted by Fistful of Energon on January 15th, 2012 @ 7:14pm CST
Posted by cannonfodder4000 on January 15th, 2012 @ 8:50pm CST
Fistful of Energon wrote:what Grimlock is that?
Pretty sure that it's the Super Collection Figure Grimlock, not sure though, cause the other figures look like they might be customs, either that or they come with this set.
Posted by DISCHARGE on January 15th, 2012 @ 9:13pm CST
Fistful of Energon wrote:what Grimlock is that?
It's Heroes of Cybertron PVC, they were sold a few years ago, there are also Takara versions, I think basically they are the same.
Posted by Fistful of Energon on January 15th, 2012 @ 9:57pm CST
Posted by -Soundwave- on January 15th, 2012 @ 10:53pm CST
Posted by Noideaforaname on January 15th, 2012 @ 11:12pm CST
Posted by mandingo_rex on January 16th, 2012 @ 12:11am CST
Noideaforaname wrote:That looks very much like a repurposed dollar store playset, especially given that the only thing that really resembles anything from the cartoon is the paper Teletraan 1 that doesn't mesh at all with the "rock" it's inserted into.
And I'm not happy with them stealing my artwork to sell it. I made it for fans to print out and assemble, not for third party Chinese folks to rip off and make a buck from.
For anyone curious about it, here's the original:
http://forums.tformers.com/talk/index.p ... 91920&st=0
Posted by IAmThePeej on January 16th, 2012 @ 12:54am CST
mandingo_rex wrote:Noideaforaname wrote:That looks very much like a repurposed dollar store playset, especially given that the only thing that really resembles anything from the cartoon is the paper Teletraan 1 that doesn't mesh at all with the "rock" it's inserted into.
And I'm not happy with them stealing my artwork to sell it. I made it for fans to print out and assemble, not for third party Chinese folks to rip off and make a buck from.
For anyone curious about it, here's the original:
http://forums.tformers.com/talk/index.p ... 91920&st=0
I'm gonna play Devil's Advocate here; its not exactly the same, and I'm not just referencing the difference in size, but the main screen on their Teletraan is wider than the one you have provided in your link, and the 3 screens below the main screen are in a different order. Showing the two side by side screens above what appears to be a voice wavelength. Also your secondary screens are pretty much the same size, theirs shows the left screen to be slightly wider and not exactly centered.
All in all though, enough changes to make it not the same item, much like the differences between Queen/ David Bowie's Under Pressure and Vanilla Ice's Ice Ice Baby (which Ice's lawyers showed it differentiated by one note, literally that's all it was). They may have seen yours, and copied it since it is a nice amount of work you put into it.
Please note I'm not siding with the makers of the toy set and saying you're lying, so please don't get mad at me or anything. All I did was point out enough differences noticeable on the images provided. Pretty much showed how the zebra is white with black stripes instead of black with white stripes.
I also prefer your Teletraan print outs since they looks nicer as well.
Posted by kirbenvost on January 16th, 2012 @ 1:09am CST
Posted by mandingo_rex on January 16th, 2012 @ 2:06am CST
IAmThePeej wrote:mandingo_rex wrote:Noideaforaname wrote:That looks very much like a repurposed dollar store playset, especially given that the only thing that really resembles anything from the cartoon is the paper Teletraan 1 that doesn't mesh at all with the "rock" it's inserted into.
And I'm not happy with them stealing my artwork to sell it. I made it for fans to print out and assemble, not for third party Chinese folks to rip off and make a buck from.
For anyone curious about it, here's the original:
http://forums.tformers.com/talk/index.p ... 91920&st=0
I'm gonna play Devil's Advocate here; its not exactly the same, and I'm not just referencing the difference in size, but the main screen on their Teletraan is wider than the one you have provided in your link, and the 3 screens below the main screen are in a different order. Showing the two side by side screens above what appears to be a voice wavelength. Also your secondary screens are pretty much the same size, theirs shows the left screen to be slightly wider and not exactly centered.
All in all though, enough changes to make it not the same item, much like the differences between Queen/ David Bowie's Under Pressure and Vanilla Ice's Ice Ice Baby (which Ice's lawyers showed it differentiated by one note, literally that's all it was). They may have seen yours, and copied it since it is a nice amount of work you put into it.
Please note I'm not siding with the makers of the toy set and saying you're lying, so please don't get mad at me or anything. All I did was point out enough differences noticeable on the images provided. Pretty much showed how the zebra is white with black stripes instead of black with white stripes.
I also prefer your Teletraan print outs since they looks nicer as well.
Not mad at you, and when it comes to 3rd party makers, it's not like they have many scruples. A lot of it's done overseas where they can't really be touched, and let's face it: if they aren't scared enough by Hasbro or Takara to stop stealing work almost identically (like in iGear's case) then they're not going to stop stealing fan's work. And I'm even a purchaser of such items, because frankly, Hasbro/Takara aren't making the items themselves.
But just because they took Photoshop and rearranged it, doesn't make it different art... or theirs to distribute. Especially when they're making money off it. I'd know my own work because I've seen it for hours on end while working on it, and over the years as people have used it for videos, dioramas, and some fans have even reworked the art—mostly with my permission, and having contacted me before modifying it for redistribution... which I'm totally fine with. When iGear made their Teletraan, I had people contact me that they "stole" my work. They didn't steal anything though, and even I personally used comic book artwork to fill the screens... although the rest of the artwork was mine. But it was all fan art, nothing more, and never to be sold. I also posted it for free, for folks to use for free, explaining all that up front (and also the fact that I used artwork for the screens and cited that it wasn't my own work), and asked everyone to not sell it or make money from it.
Which is what these guys are doing... making money from it. If they "saw it and copied it", which is similar to what iGear did for their box art (not talking the plastic product, but the box art)... The art style was very similar but they redid all the lineart/coloring/etc themselves. This, on the other hand, is almost exactly the same. Going so far as just reusing my artwork, not mimicking it in any artistic way.
I appreciate the other side of the argument usually, but with these guys, they've clearly just ripped off a fan's work. The mountain itself isn't really any intellectual property by Hasbro or Takara, so they get away with that. The Teletraan artwork though, I find it lazy. To be honest, it doesn't even fit with the aesthetics of the set (like some other people have mentioned.)
Posted by rpetras on January 16th, 2012 @ 9:06am CST
Sucks they ripped off the Teletran, that is just weak. I have that paper craft Teletran set and I really like it.
Doubt I'll be getting this though.
I AM interested in knowing what Legends sized trailer Prime is rolling out carrying?
Posted by AutobotCliffjumper on January 17th, 2012 @ 10:03am CST
Posted by El Duque on January 31st, 2012 @ 11:29am CST
Posted by JRFitzpatrick7 on January 31st, 2012 @ 11:35am CST
after these new images, i almost expected this sound
Posted by dedcat on January 31st, 2012 @ 11:36am CST
2 questions:
1) Is that computer console a cardboard insert or a sticker?
2) Is Prime farting at the end of this thing?
Posted by JRFitzpatrick7 on January 31st, 2012 @ 11:39am CST
dedcat wrote:that was... unique.
2 questions:
1) Is that computer console a cardboard insert or a sticker?
2) Is Prime farting at the end of this thing?
Answered respectively:
Hard to say, looks like a sticker.
Most definitely.
Posted by AutobotCliffjumper on January 31st, 2012 @ 11:47am CST
dedcat wrote:
2) Is Prime farting at the end of this thing?
Still a pass for me! But that just means more for everyone else lol.
Posted by gothsaurus on January 31st, 2012 @ 11:54am CST
Definite buy. Love it.
Only thing that could make it better would be thrusters of the ship sticking out the side.
Posted by Sentinel Maximus on January 31st, 2012 @ 12:01pm CST
Posted by GuyIncognito on January 31st, 2012 @ 12:06pm CST
...gas. Like Optimus.
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on January 31st, 2012 @ 12:09pm CST
Posted by gothsaurus on January 31st, 2012 @ 12:16pm CST
Ark Thrusters add-on Kit: $85
Posted by AnimeFreak505 on January 31st, 2012 @ 12:17pm CST
dedcat wrote:2) Is Prime farting at the end of this thing?
lol
Posted by T-Macksimus on January 31st, 2012 @ 12:36pm CST
Don't get me wrong, I do like this set and I'm not dumping on it for the sake of simply being negative. I'm just actually a bit frustrated at seeing something that is both so cool and at the same time utterly useless for me. I don't have much in the way of disposable income and I tend to feel much better about my purchases if I can at least justify getting it. (please note that by "justify" I mean BS'ing myself into believing that I really need this)
These guys are not doing themselves any favors by making this set in the scale that it is. They should have gone for something a tad bit bigger even if it does mean having to spring for a bit more on the cost of the plastic. They would be able to sell enough of them to cover the increase.
Posted by mattyc1007 on January 31st, 2012 @ 1:08pm CST
I now truely know, that Optimus is directly related to Domo-Kun
Posted by Mykltron on January 31st, 2012 @ 1:18pm CST
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on January 31st, 2012 @ 2:25pm CST
Posted by Delicon on January 31st, 2012 @ 2:36pm CST
T-Macksimus wrote:While I really love the concept I have to say that this set would really only look decent with WST figures. Those of us with none are kinda hosed unless we want to drop a bundle on a whole bunch of figures to make this play-set worthwhile. None of the other smaller figures in the TF lines are going to look right with this so what is the point of making something so cool for such a very limited line of TF's?
Honestly, it looks like it would work with Legends scale just fine.
Posted by T-Macksimus on January 31st, 2012 @ 4:19pm CST
Delicon wrote:T-Macksimus wrote:While I really love the concept I have to say that this set would really only look decent with WST figures. Those of us with none are kinda hosed unless we want to drop a bundle on a whole bunch of figures to make this play-set worthwhile. None of the other smaller figures in the TF lines are going to look right with this so what is the point of making something so cool for such a very limited line of TF's?
Honestly, it looks like it would work with Legends scale just fine.
You do realize that you are not helping my wallet out one bit, right?
I was trying really hard to convince myself that the Legends figures would be too big for this play-set but every darn time I look at the pics I keep seeing one of my Legends Class Movie Primes in the place of that WST Optimus w/trailer and it makes me want this set more. If the Legends class look good with this then an assault on the base by my team of Micromaster Constructicons would look freaking awesome!
Posted by DISCHARGE on January 31st, 2012 @ 6:07pm CST
T-Macksimus wrote:Delicon wrote:T-Macksimus wrote:While I really love the concept I have to say that this set would really only look decent with WST figures. Those of us with none are kinda hosed unless we want to drop a bundle on a whole bunch of figures to make this play-set worthwhile. None of the other smaller figures in the TF lines are going to look right with this so what is the point of making something so cool for such a very limited line of TF's?
Honestly, it looks like it would work with Legends scale just fine.
You do realize that you are not helping my wallet out one bit, right?
I was trying really hard to convince myself that the Legends figures would be too big for this play-set but every darn time I look at the pics I keep seeing one of my Legends Class Movie Primes in the place of that WST Optimus w/trailer and it makes me want this set more. If the Legends class look good with this then an assault on the base by my team of Micromaster Constructicons would look freaking awesome!
Posted by Skullcrunchberries on January 31st, 2012 @ 6:39pm CST
So many lens flares = so much coolness.
Still not interested in their product though >_>
Posted by Kung Fu Man on February 1st, 2012 @ 12:45am CST
I do like the look of the thing, though the lack of the ark crashed in the side kills it for me. C'mon, that couldn't have been that hard to pull off could it?
Posted by Trikeboy on February 1st, 2012 @ 2:49am CST
chuckdawg1999 wrote:So does this mean astrotrain is out?
Yes it is, and it is awesome. Really tight and transforms really well. Size is on par with the Dinorobots. Check out Robotkingdom to get him.
This will not be part of my fairly large collection of WST toys. It looks cheap and far too plain.
Posted by Wheeljack35 on February 1st, 2012 @ 12:32pm CST
If the thrusters are $85 some of hear can't afford it