Top 5 Best Transformers Beast Wars Characters
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Top 5 Best Beast Wars Characters
I don't know if I will ever have a list of the "Top 5 Transformers TV Shows" because there isn't that much competition and to me the only real discussion point would be why Beast Wars is better than the G1 Sunbow show. That's because if I were to write that list (which I don't plan to at the moment) Beast Wars would trump G1, for sure. So I will cut to the discussion right away and tell you why: the characters. Beast Wars has the best Transformers characters we will ever see on TV and I want to give a breakdown of the ones I like best, so here it goes!
5. DepthCharge/Rampage
I for the two rivals duking it out until their death. I also love the Batman/Joker rivalry and this it is the most prominent and legendary rivalry in all of fiction (anyone dare go against that?) and the Deptcharge/Rampage rivalry seems to take direct inspiration of that. The temperaments of the characters involved in both rivalries is very similar too with an obsessed lone wolf badass hunting down an agent of chaos. It's a fun dynamic and very fun archetypes and I am glad that they were part of Beast Wars.
4. Rhinox
Part of me wanted to put Rhinox at number 1 just to make a statement. He is by far the best maximal character with all the best attributes you can think of. He is the smartest on the team, while also having brute strength and insane firepower. He has all that it takes to be second in command, which he technically is, and yet we don't think of him that was due to his humility and much gentler side (which is an amazing contrast to his arsenal and size). He is the ultimate support to the team and from beginning to end (especially end). I don't know how much is just coincidence or good planned out writing, but Rhinox also ends up being the only character in the entire show to retain his organic beast mode until the end. It shows how that character was quick to accept this new organic life (a lot like Tigertron) and kept exploring it and welcoming all that it had to bring.
3. Blackarachnia
As mentioned in the best female characters of all time in the Transformers franchise, she is one of the characters with the most depth in any Transformers fiction. The reason why she is still only third place on this list is because she lacks a certain gravitas that number 1 and 2 have. But please remember that Beast Wars has the best written characters we will ever be given on a screen so being top 3 is just as good as being number 1.
2. Megatron
It is impossible to express the joy of watching this villain on the screen. He reminds me of Hans Gruber and other villains which just reek of charisma. He knows he is bad and is loving every second of it and that is so infectious to the viewer. I love his assurance too, its very seductive, just ask Ravage. We almost want to see him succeed in his plans and that is the marking of a perfect villain.
1. Dinobot
Unlike almost every other Transformers character, Dinobot doesn't seem to have a predetermined personality based on his allegiance. That is also what makes Beast Wars such a smart show. We see around the end of the second season that the Predacons are not a simple analogue to the Decepticons. They are another clan with different values and ideals. While Megatron has ambitions similar to the previous bearer of that name, it only makes sense that his lietenants share similar aspirations. However, Dinobot shows us that evil is not a hardcoded trait in this world anymore. I love how he never chooses to be a maximal but simply
Dinobot, to me, is not just the best Beast Wars character, he is the very best character to come out of Transformers.
Honourable mentions: All of them, with the exception of maybe Scorponok and Tigerhawk who didn't really do much for me as a kid and even less so now.
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Posted by shajaki on October 6th, 2017 @ 10:53pm CDT
Pretty shocked to not see Primal on this list...
Posted by Hydrargyrus on October 6th, 2017 @ 11:15pm CDT
shajaki wrote:People LOVE Rhinox. And I've never understood it. Nothing against him, but I always saw him as one dimensional (much like Scorponok). In many circumstances, he's the Maximal's deus ex machina. And ironically, the only thing that made him interesting to me was when he became Tankor in Beast Machines. Which is almost unanimously hated
Pretty shocked to not see Primal on this list...
I think it's more of the implicit parts of his character, and what stories could've been told to expand on it. That and the fact that he doesn't really have any primary vices. Although I haven't watched to series in a while, so don't take my word for it.
Posted by kurthy on October 6th, 2017 @ 11:32pm CDT
Why world hate Waspinator?
Posted by kurthy on October 6th, 2017 @ 11:49pm CDT
4. Waspinator, really this show was defined by the predacons. Every single one of my top 5 was a predacon at one point. Waspinator may not have good at anything except being the scrappy. Everyone loves to see him blow up, get beat on, and just be miserable.
5. Tarantulas, the guy was like shockwave and starscream had a love/hate child. Even Megatron was never as downright disturbing or manipulative as him. There were a lot of episodes I watched just to see how awful tarantulas would be. But he never had the charisma of Megatron, so much farther down the list.
Honorable mention to inferno for constantly protecting the queen!
Posted by Epsilon Delta on October 7th, 2017 @ 12:25am CDT
1. How developed all the characters are. They each get to shine and they each get their own personality. For the most part those personalities aren't just -insert cliche here-. Even the characters that are cliches (such as Waspinator is slapstick comic relief, Cheetor is kid friendly character...) still were fleshed out. They still felt "alive" and reacted according to their character mostly.
2. The villains didn't outpace the heros. What I mean by that is some shows the villains are the real highlight and the heros are just there to have good vs bad. But to me this show had cool on both sides, and the heros could be just as interesting as the villains. The heros didn't get bogged down by "I have to be good so I am going to be boring good" but still didn't fall into the "I have to be cool so I'm an antihero" that the 90's especially fell into. Both sides got victories and the Maximals didn't win all the time just because the Preds were "bumbling idiots."
Posted by Megatron Wolf on October 7th, 2017 @ 1:13am CDT
Posted by megamanfan on October 7th, 2017 @ 3:41am CDT
Posted by Windsweeper on October 7th, 2017 @ 5:06am CDT
He's one of the most overrated characters in the franchise and his voice acting was terrible. Someone got paid to do it?!?
Silverbolt, Inferno, Ravage, Waspinator, Airrazor, Tigatron, Cheetor and Terrorsaur were much more likeable characters.
Posted by Stormtalon on October 7th, 2017 @ 8:21am CDT
Megatron is the prime motivator of both Beast Wars and Beast Machines. His actions alone move the story.
Megatron's arc is the most subtle, but most engaging in the series. He starts of a charasmatic criminal mastermind, but as the stakes a raised again and again he descends (he'd probably see it as ascends) into megalomania. By the end he wasn't just tlking about himself in the third person, it was third person plurals 'Megatrons don't yield'.
He's not interested in conquering the galaxy, not when he can command all of time and space. Think about that. He's a fugitive stranded on a primitive world, but he plans on rewriting history and conquering all. That takes ball bearings of depleted uranium.
And unlike Dinobot who had a truncated second life as a transmetal 2, Megatron's descent into mania is consistent throughout all 3 seasons.
That's my argument for Megatron at #1.
Posted by Kyleor on October 7th, 2017 @ 9:28am CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on October 7th, 2017 @ 10:09am CDT
5. Rattrap
4. Optimus Primal
3. Blackarachnia
2. Dinobot
1. Megatron
Honorable mention: Tarantulas (just for the fact that he was a Tripredacus agent the whole time)
Posted by Kurona on October 7th, 2017 @ 10:34am CDT
Posted by TK415 on October 7th, 2017 @ 1:02pm CDT
Great topic. The Beast Wars story was awesome! The characters were great!
Dinobot is one of the best characters ever.
Posted by Ultimate Weapon1 on October 7th, 2017 @ 2:27pm CDT
5:Dinobot
4:Silverbolt
3:Depthcharge
2:Megatron
1:Waspinator
Waspinator, to me, was the best characters, because he simply just would not die, and in the end he became friends with the humans.
Posted by kurthy on October 7th, 2017 @ 5:22pm CDT
Ultimate Weapon1 wrote:Waspinator, to me, was the best characters, because he simply just would not die, and in the end he became friends with the humans.
You have a weird definition of friends.
Posted by megamanfan on October 7th, 2017 @ 11:57pm CDT
Windsweeper wrote:While I am glad not to see the always annoying Rattrap or Quickstrike on the list, I cannot agree with Dinobot especially as no. 1.
He's one of the most overrated characters in the franchise and his voice acting was terrible. Someone got paid to do it?!?
Silverbolt, Inferno, Ravage, Waspinator, Airrazor, Tigatron, Cheetor and Terrorsaur were much more likeable characters.
you realize dinobot, waspinator, rattrap and silverbolt all had the same voice actor, yeah? scott Mcneil?
Posted by Gingko on October 8th, 2017 @ 6:58am CDT
But five is a number too short. Top ten would have satisfy every body.
in order : Rampage/Depthcharge, Tigatron, Inferno, Cheetor, Rhinox, Waspinator, Black Arachnia, Megatron, Rattrap, Dinobot.
Posted by kurthy on October 8th, 2017 @ 8:29am CDT
Gingko wrote:Dinobot as number one is an obvious choice. Best transformers character ever.
But five is a number too short. Top ten would have satisfy every body.
in order : Rampage/Depthcharge, Tigatron, Inferno, Cheetor, Rhinox, Waspinator, Black Arachnia, Megatron, Rattrap, Dinobot.
I think 5 is the right number. Once you get into the top 10, you're pulling in half the cast . You'd be debating the merits of Inferno vs. Cheetor rather than some of the best characters in the show.
Posted by Kurona on October 8th, 2017 @ 9:10am CDT
Posted by Insurgent on October 9th, 2017 @ 5:01am CDT
Oh, and waspinator and Inferno also kept their original season 1 bodies all the way up to the end.
Posted by Rodimus Knight on October 9th, 2017 @ 9:58am CDT
Posted by Insurgent on October 9th, 2017 @ 11:47am CDT
Posted by Duke of Luns on October 9th, 2017 @ 3:54pm CDT
...there's the Transmutate episode. This was the only episode to really explore Rampage's personality outside of his homicidal/bring pain to everything tendencies. He actually cared for something in that episode, we got a glimpse into a spark that maybe has only ever known pain and misery(Project X was a "dirty secret" after all). There's an untold story there that would be fascinating to explore(and I do have an idea for a fanfic to that extent...).
Posted by Gingko on October 10th, 2017 @ 5:44am CDT
kurthy wrote:Once you get into the top 10, you're pulling in half the cast .
Yes, and it could be funny. And it is already.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 10th, 2017 @ 10:06am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on October 10th, 2017 @ 2:53pm CDT
Gingko wrote:Dinobot as number one is an obvious choice. Best transformers character ever.
But five is a number too short. Top ten would have satisfy every body.
in order : Rampage/Depthcharge, Tigatron, Inferno, Cheetor, Rhinox, Waspinator, Black Arachnia, Megatron, Rattrap, Dinobot.
I know its easy to think that more is better, but you give a stellar example as to why it might not satisfy everyone. Your list doesn't have Optimus Primal, arguably the main character of the series (though I personally feel megatron shares a similar spotlight). So he is bound to have lots of fans, he was even the first Beast Wars MP figure. So just imagine how it would look like if i made a list of top 10 BW characters, and it doesnt include primal. The discussion would no longer be about who should be in a top 5 and instead be about Primal's absence.
Posted by Sabrblade on October 21st, 2017 @ 8:15am CDT
Posted by Duke of Luns on October 22nd, 2017 @ 9:32pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:A Top 5 Worst (or "Least-Good") BW Characters list oughta roll some heads.
Sooo it would go something like:
5. Tigerhawk
4. Air Razor
3. Una and Chak
2. Quickstrike
1. Skorponok
Posted by Kurona on October 22nd, 2017 @ 9:39pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on October 22nd, 2017 @ 9:43pm CDT
Posted by Duke of Luns on October 22nd, 2017 @ 10:29pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:And what's wrong with Tigerhawk? When he first showed up I wanted his toy BADLY as a kid. And then I got mad when he got killed off two episodes later. I wanted more of him. He was epically awesome, darn it!
Kinda the problem right there. He appears and gets killed off. Yes I know it's because his toy/character was in limbo, and it is neat it ties up a cliffhanger from mid-season 2, but he's a footnote at best. But that's Season 3 in general to me: introduce a whiz bang cool toy, and then don't really DO anything with it(barring Depth Charge).
As for Air Razor, she's not bad, and was another flyer. However, other than being a love interest for Tigertron and the Mcguffin for a really good episode("The Spark"), her impact in the show was minimal.
And this list was just off the top of my head. Who would you guys rank lower?
Posted by ProtoformXScream on November 23rd, 2017 @ 4:26am CST
1. Dinobot : He possessed half of the main traits of G1 Cartoon Cyclonus. Dinobot's sense of "Predacon honor" and preference for a bold pursuit of conquest over a worthy enemy was essentially Cyclonus, reimagined and delved into further due to BW better character focus on character development than G1 Cyclonus benefitted from. To those who may not recall clearly, Dinobot, while very similar, to an even greater extent than Cyclonus was more loyal to a higher principle than serving his commander. Dinoboot took it further changing sides, holding off on ruling out a return to the Predacons until just before he died in "Code Of Hero" .G1 Cyclonus more subtly showed this willingness to call his own shots in "Webworld" and "The Big Broadcast Of 2006" ,and cut his own deal(in the name loyalty to Galvatron) with the Quintessons in "The Face Of Njika". Dinobot is arguably the most memorable from Beast Wars, because his choices ultimately had the most impact on the tide of the Beast Wars. Dinobot remaining with the Preds would have likely been an insurmountable advantage in their favor in hindsight.
2. Rhinox : He was basically the "Zen Master" of the Maximals, and possessed that higher understanding of the big picture the rest of the characters in the show lacked. I always dig that Rhinox had the audacity to defy the "will of The Matrix" when he resurrected Primal into the blank protoform in "Coming OF The Fuzors".Suggesting to place Transmutate in stasis lock. Those events lent a sense of darkness to his ethical perspective that took me by surprise after watching him sniff flowers,and letting a huge fart in S1 of BW. The other thing that intrigued me about Rhinox, was how "Dark Designs seemed to be the template for how (as Tankor)he behaved starting in "Beast Machines - Revelations".
3.Rampage .It's hard not to like a bad guy who used mental and physical tactics so evenly.He was somewhat under-rated in this regard. He openly expressed desire to terminate pretty much half of his team.As much of a lone wolf as Dinobot was, Rampage also had that mindset, albeit in a more Starscream-like treacherous manner. BW dropped the ball when they failed to let him get the device that controlled his spark even if only for one single episode. Can you imagine what would have had happened had he gotten ahold of the removed portion of his spark? I can, and it's disappointing we never got to see that.
4. Tarantulus came off to me as essentially being Starscrem in every sense of the character. Someone mentioned how Megatron referring to him as Unicron's spawn was like saying "son of a bitch". He actually mentioned his and the Tri-Predacus council having other secret origins from some of the Predacon alliance. As was the general trend with that entire series, he was never fully tapped into, and they wasted a chance to provide a better understanding of the Predacon Alliance itself once it was revealed he was among the secret police. That backstory/sidestory went pretty much nowhere in Season 3 of BW. That being said he was the scariest character and he got the absolute darkest scenes in the entire show. While Megatron,Rampage, and Inferno were more oof the character you wouldn't want to fight against, Tarantulus was the monster under your bed. The creepy green spider eyes certainly lent to that.Torturing Cheetor & TigerHawk, eating a mouse, trapping a deer. The demented personality put him high on my list as a pure bad guy despite my desire for more.
5 Optimus Primal was the typical Optimus-like character in many of the obvious ways, but on the other hand he was a one bot summary of several different post-G1 cartoon iterations of Optimus Prime. Primal in the Beast Wars cartoon was more naïve, less dominant, and had more arrogance on display than what I would expect from a character dubbed Optimus. His interactions with Blackarachnia, Cheetor, Depth Charge, Dinobot, and Silverbolt in particular, were the most interesting because they were larger tests of his patience.Those specific interactions illustrated his transformation to a more mature leader later on after he had interfaced with Primes Spark in "Optimal Situation". Winning over greater cooperation from each in Seasons 2 and 3 were earmarks of his development into more of a typical Optimus Prime- type. Given his rank the often independent, and detrimental actions of some of the other Maximals presented him as being less in control. The BW Optimus Primal was a lot like TF Animated Optimus in a lot of ways.I guess the regular open questioning and defiance of his authority came off that way to me. Beast Machines completing this personal evolution, to a place of higher maturity, understanding, and getting greater respect for his leadership by the Maximals gets him on the list despite predictability about him. That's why I have him at 5. Primal wouldn't make my top 5 list without Beast Machines, but because it was part of a greater character arc it falls safely in. I could have fit several others in at 5th for reasons of their own, but Optimus is Optimus.
Posted by Sabrblade on November 23rd, 2017 @ 12:12pm CST
I wish that similarity had been intentional, but it was a coincidence since Beast Machines had a different creative team from that of Beast Wars who didn't go back and draw that much from Beast Wars when creating Beast Machines. In fact, Tankor-Rhinox's snarling mad attitude that made him sound like he was out of his right mind, when he told the Maximals how he had changed his views towards Megatron's agenda of technological perfection, was all done on Richard Newman's part as Bob Skir had originally intended for that scene to play out with Tankor-Rhinox speaking calmly and in his right mind. Instead, what we got was more like how Rhinox behaved in "Dark Designs" and, even though it went against what was planned for that scene, I'm glad for it.ProtoformXScream wrote:The other thing that intrigued me about Rhinox, was how "Dark Designs seemed to be the template for how (as Tankor)he behaved starting in "Beast Machines - Revelations".
The guy's heart was literally being held and tortured by Megatron. Of course he'd be wanting to kill the guy who held his very fate in the palm of his (Megatron's) hands, especially since Megatron only ever treated him like some kind of animal. And, well, Rampage was insane. A complete psychotic. Hannibal Lecter in robot form.ProtoformXScream wrote:3.Rampage .It's hard not to like a bad guy who used mental and physical tactics so evenly.He was somewhat under-rated in this regard. He openly expressed desire to terminate pretty much half of his team.As much of a lone wolf as Dinobot was, Rampage also had that mindset, albeit in a more Starscream-like treacherous manner.
That only came about after the show was over. Bob Forward meant for the line to refer to the very insult that you mentioned, but fans of the time took it literally and wanted it to mean more than it was meant to. As such, the BotCon fiction of the early 2000s took the line and ran with it, much like how Terrorsaur's line to Cheetor of "Welcome to the dark side!" in "Equal Measures" was interpreted by fans to refer to the Predacon ship itself when it originally wasn't. Hence now we're stuck with "Darksyde" and the Tarantulas having ties to Unicron.ProtoformXScream wrote:Someone mentioned how Megatron referring to him as Unicron's spawn was like saying "son of a bitch". He actually mentioned his and the Tri-Predacus council having other secret origins from some of the Predacon alliance.
Moreover, when Tarantulas said that he and the Council have different origins from those of other Predacons, Larry DiTillio suggested them as having originated from the Cybertronian Empire of the G2 comics led by Jhiaxus and Liege Maximo. The later Wings Universe fiction from Fun Pub would eventually pay homage to this by having the Predacons implied to be descended from pods of clones taken from Jhiaxus's lab, but with Tarantulas's and three other pods being mysteriously different from the others...
Posted by Wingz on November 25th, 2017 @ 12:13pm CST
1) Dinobot
2) Rattrap
3) Tarantulus
4) Blackarachnia
5) Tigatron
1) I know, a typical answer. Although there are people who feel the character is overrated, there was a level of depth to Dinobot that simply stood out to me (and still stands out to this day). He held a deep level of honor, conviction, development, and commitment (regardless of the consequence) while still holding true to the idea that flaws and imperfections exist in everyone, regardless of their qualities. A character like him, in my opinion, did not come around again until Micron Legend’s Starscream. Essentially, what I admire from the character is that he is timeless (there is something to take away from the character, regardless of age) and impacted the story in a very great way. His dialogue was well written (a little Shakespeare with a side of being a smart ass and sometimes very meaningful), and he died knowing very well who he was and what he stood for. Twice.
2) Rattrap...I can see why a lot of people wouldn’t like him, but I loved the smart ass realist with explosives. Even though he wasn’t the most influential character in the series and didn’t develop very much, his actions influenced other characters to a greater degree (humbling Cheetor to aid in him acting more as a team player, challenging Dinobot’s loyalty which bound him to honor his commitments by the character that he was, etc). He was entertaining and helped to build meaning in the series, even if he didn’t develop much on his own.
3) My reason for liking this character was actually mentioned in an earlier post. While the character didn’t change much, his actions and archtype actually had a purpose as the story unfolded. Most Starscream type characters are pretty linear in their reasons for plotting and deception. The ‘Megatron is unfit to lead’ mentality, primarily. To have another underlying purpose and origin (being a member of the Tripredacus Council’s secret police and acting on their accord) gave extra layers to the archtype this character represents. The character, himself, was very sinister and boogieman-esk, which I also appreciate very much.
4) Blackarachnia was ever-changing and developing. I simply liked her character arch for the majority of the series. She was crafty and resourceful, independent, ambitious, and reliable in battle. The whole bad girl persona and appearance was played well until season 3. In season 3, she just felt like a walking toy commercial to me: cheesy dialogue and being more flashy in appearance while being less of a stand-alone personality as a whole.
5) I appreciated Tigatron’s philosophical perception of the war and the environment. Unlike almost every other character in the series, Tigatron had a deeper understanding of what war would cost (rivaled only by Rhinox but on another level, entirely) to both the warriors and the battlefield. He knew, possible better than any other, what was worth fighting for and how to define the peace the good guys fight so diligently for (to define by defining - not to say that his definition was the absolute correct one). He also questioned them and what they stood for on several occasions (The Trigger, Part 2 and Law of the Jungle are good examples of this).
I appreciate the reasoning behind why people like the characters that they do. It's easy to learn things that weren't apparent before.
Posted by Evil Eye on December 4th, 2017 @ 3:55pm CST
Dinobot was amazing too (fun fact: the voice Scott did for him is based on Chris Latta's Starscream, but much lower), and had THE best death in Transformers history. A shame Dark Glass was cancelled, because that would have been the cherry on the diesel sundae of perfection that was his arc.
Megatron...I think nothing else needs to be said. It's BW Megatron.
Posted by AllNewSuperRobot on February 5th, 2018 @ 4:09am CST
Best
1. Rampage - Practically the perfect villain. In any other continuity, a Predacon/Decepticon leader.
2. Megatron - The most successful Megatron ever. He never just bragged, he got things done.Yesss
3. Tarantulas - I've always had a soft spot for the "mad scientist" types.. and spiders.
4. Rhinox - My favourite Maximal, the brains of the team as well as the early muscle. Plus: Chainguns of Doom!
5. Inferno (Season 1 & 2) - He reminds me of a more powerful, albeit mad, version of Sunbow Soundwave. An interpretation of the G1 character I really liked.
Honourable mention - Depthcharge, if only he had been in the series for longer.
Worst - In no particular order
Silverbolt - His dialogue, his characterisation et al, all of it really grated on me. I really dislike comic relief characters.
Quickstrike - As above
Black Arachnia - Started off interesting and that vanished with the appearance of Silverbolt.
Waspinator - Again, comic relief UGH
Scorponok - What an insult to the name... and the toy. To quote Megatron "incompetent bug"
Dishonourable mention - Terrorsaur, they really didn't need to push him as BW Starscream. The trope only ever worked with the original. Ultimately he was a wasted opportunity.