Transformers Generations Devastator Confirmed in TRU Canada System
Sunday, January 11th, 2015 4:27PM CST
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What is yet uncertain is what figures will combine into the big green Gestalt, how compatible they will be with current Generations Combiner Wars figures, whether IDW's Prowlestator is a possibility,and if the rumoured Titan class is actually true. Check out the images below, and discuss these new developments in the Energon Pub!
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Posted by Cobotron on January 11th, 2015 @ 4:29pm CST
Way to hit the streets and get the scoop WJ88!
somebody get this guy a Pulitzer!
Posted by Mkall on January 11th, 2015 @ 4:35pm CST
Fascinating. I wonder if a 33% markup is standard for all their TF toys? That in and of itself provides very interesting insight to the retailer cost of any TF.
Posted by Cobotron on January 11th, 2015 @ 4:36pm CST
Mkall wrote:So TRU purchases it for $120, adds a 33.3% markup, and that's how they get to the 179.99 price.
Fascinating. I wonder if a 33% markup is standard for all their TF toys? That in and of itself provides very interesting insight to the retailer cost of any TF.
I have always been under the impression that all retail does a 100% markup.
Very interesting.
Posted by Va'al on January 11th, 2015 @ 4:39pm CST
Cobotron wrote:AWESOME!
Way to hit the streets and get the scoop WJ88!
somebody get this guy a Pulitzer!
Yeah, not the guy who wrote the article or asked WJ88 to go look. No, please, seriously. Don't. I couldn't possibly.
(Seriously though, good work Will!)
Posted by Cobotron on January 11th, 2015 @ 4:47pm CST
Va'al wrote:Cobotron wrote:AWESOME!
Way to hit the streets and get the scoop WJ88!
somebody get this guy a Pulitzer!
Yeah, not the guy who wrote the article or asked WJ88 to go look. No, please, seriously. Don't. I couldn't possibly.
(Seriously though, good work Will!)
OK, good job Va'al.
Somebody get this guy some lunch!
Posted by Va'al on January 11th, 2015 @ 5:07pm CST
Cobotron wrote:Va'al wrote:Cobotron wrote:AWESOME!
Way to hit the streets and get the scoop WJ88!
somebody get this guy a Pulitzer!
Yeah, not the guy who wrote the article or asked WJ88 to go look. No, please, seriously. Don't. I couldn't possibly.
(Seriously though, good work Will!)
OK, good job Va'al.
Somebody get this guy some lunch!
You are forgiven, my son. Now go, and sin no more.
Posted by shajaki on January 11th, 2015 @ 5:11pm CST
Posted by It Is Him on January 11th, 2015 @ 5:28pm CST
On one hand - HOORAY! On the other - chasing down big-ticket TRU exclusives is often frustrating and stressful.
Posted by MasterSoundBlaster on January 11th, 2015 @ 5:53pm CST
Posted by Madeus Prime on January 11th, 2015 @ 6:02pm CST
MasterSoundBlaster wrote:Just as long as it isn't prowlestator, I'll be happy
Aw c'mon, how about they release a compatible figure of Prowl?
Either way, my wallet is gonna take a pounding from this, as is my emotions from my parent's disapproval. Oh well.
Posted by spiderbob007 on January 11th, 2015 @ 6:18pm CST
What they gonna do? Sue?
Posted by MGrotusque on January 11th, 2015 @ 6:20pm CST
This figure needs to happen sooner than later....
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on January 11th, 2015 @ 6:22pm CST
spiderbob007 wrote:I think it would be hilarious if this figure used the design for MakeToys' Green Giant or TFC's Hercules.
What they gonna do? Sue?
That's the funny thing: they actually could sue! Theoretically speaking of course That's a whole different debate though, and one that should not matter because, personally, I don't see Hasbro doing that at all.
Posted by fenrir72 on January 11th, 2015 @ 6:24pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on January 11th, 2015 @ 6:28pm CST
Va'al wrote:Cobotron wrote:AWESOME!
Way to hit the streets and get the scoop WJ88!
somebody get this guy a Pulitzer!
Yeah, not the guy who wrote the article or asked WJ88 to go look. No, please, seriously. Don't. I couldn't possibly.
(Seriously though, good work Will!)
This is what being a team is all about. I may get this scoop but you write much better. You are the Lois Lane to my Clark Kent, Alex
Funny thing, I couldnt believe the guy let me take those pics. When I had them, I just had the Jack Nicholson quote from Batman in my head:
"And now, folks, it's time for "Who do you trust!" Hubba, hubba, hubba! Money, money, money! Who do you trust? Seibertron? We're giving you photo evidence. And where is the everyone else? THEY'RE AT HOME WASHING THEIR TIGHTS!"
Posted by Kup98ss on January 11th, 2015 @ 6:45pm CST
On the other hand I wouldn't be surprised if it was a repaint of ROTF Devastator. After seeing how much TRU has jacked up the price on current exclusives $180 for that worthless pile of a toy wouldn't surprise me.
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on January 11th, 2015 @ 7:05pm CST
Posted by Solus Prime on January 11th, 2015 @ 7:21pm CST
Just give me the pictures NOW!, Mr. Hasblow.
Edit: I hope the box would homage the G1 Gift set box, it would be amazing.
Posted by padfoo on January 11th, 2015 @ 7:33pm CST
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:180 Canadian is roughly 150 American... 150 divided by 6 is 25. Give or take a few dollars it actually adds up. I'm a little bit concerned about the sizes though. A Devastator made from 6 Voyagers would dwarf all the other combiners in the line, which I find unappealing. If they were all Deluxes or between Deluxe and Voyager (with a possible 7th figure as Prowl) I'd be more accepting. We'll chalk up the price to Toys 'R Us' shenanigans
If you Break it down like that it makes perfect sense. I don't have a problem with the size if 5 or six voyagers were to form Devastator. He would not quite be as tall as Metroplex.
Posted by Nemesis Maximo on January 11th, 2015 @ 7:56pm CST
padfoo wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:180 Canadian is roughly 150 American... 150 divided by 6 is 25. Give or take a few dollars it actually adds up. I'm a little bit concerned about the sizes though. A Devastator made from 6 Voyagers would dwarf all the other combiners in the line, which I find unappealing. If they were all Deluxes or between Deluxe and Voyager (with a possible 7th figure as Prowl) I'd be more accepting. We'll chalk up the price to Toys 'R Us' shenanigans
If you Break it down like that it makes perfect sense. I don't have a problem with the size if 5 or six voyagers were to form Devastator. He would not quite be as tall as Metroplex.
Not to mention the fact that having theConstructicons be Voyager class would make them roughly...scale...with the other figures.
Posted by Sabrblade on January 11th, 2015 @ 8:00pm CST
Posted by padfoo on January 11th, 2015 @ 8:05pm CST
Tsutsukakushi wrote:This seems like great news and I can't imagine any negatives to this. This might end up being the best TF released in 2015. Can't wait to see how beautiful Hasbro sculpted each Voyager Constructicon and Devastator.
Guessing the States version will cost much cheaper than the Canadian price. Like how cheap Hasbro in the states was selling Titan Metroplex a few years ago.
Hoping TRU in the states is not the only retail store selling this. As TRU in the states often charges high mark ups for exclusive TF toys.
Wishing everyone in the states and most sites sell Titan Devastator, So the price isn't that high.
Going to jump the gun, Half a year ahead in 2015. By guessing that Titan Devastator will get recolored in G-2 and Diaclone colors,become SDCC and Amazon.com exclusives.
While I agree that selling it in more places would help lower the cost. I don't see that happening. Parents aren't going to shell out $150 on a giant action figure. Much like Metroplex this will be a collectors item and a Toysrus exclusive. If all this is true the demand for this thing will be HUGE in the collector space!
Posted by Ultra Markus on January 11th, 2015 @ 8:15pm CST
dont get me wrong that would be cool to see but........you know..........
Posted by Sabrblade on January 11th, 2015 @ 8:17pm CST
This year is Combiner Wars, not City Wars.Ultra Markus wrote:hmm......... a titan devastaor? really? what about a titan scorponok or trypticon?
dont get me wrong that would be cool to see but........you know..........
Posted by Ultra Markus on January 11th, 2015 @ 8:19pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:This year is Combiner Wars, not City Wars.Ultra Markus wrote:hmm......... a titan devastaor? really? what about a titan scorponok or trypticon?
dont get me wrong that would be cool to see but........you know..........
then we dont need a city sized devastator
hopefulley it will be the entire team they are talking about in one package
Posted by Sabrblade on January 11th, 2015 @ 8:21pm CST
Six Voyagers won't make a Metroplex-sized toy when combined in Devastator's configuration. "Titan class" ain't necessarily one specific size. Look at how varying the size of "Supreme class" has been.Ultra Markus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:This year is Combiner Wars, not City Wars.Ultra Markus wrote:hmm......... a titan devastaor? really? what about a titan scorponok or trypticon?
dont get me wrong that would be cool to see but........you know..........
then we dont need a city sized devastator
Posted by Ultra Markus on January 11th, 2015 @ 8:35pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Six Voyagers won't make a Metroplex-sized toy when combined in Devastator's configuration. "Titan class" ain't necessarily one specific size. Look at how varying the size of "Supreme class" has been.Ultra Markus wrote:Sabrblade wrote:This year is Combiner Wars, not City Wars.Ultra Markus wrote:hmm......... a titan devastaor? really? what about a titan scorponok or trypticon?
dont get me wrong that would be cool to see but........you know..........
then we dont need a city sized devastator
um... i have most all the supreme class tfs that came out over the years and they are all pretty much the same size and there have only been 2 toys in the history of Transformers that are titan class the first which i dont think was refereed as a titan and the second which was the only one called a titan im talking about Fortress maximus and Metroplex
the size of this devastator would be closer to supreme class
Posted by Sabrblade on January 11th, 2015 @ 8:43pm CST
Whoops, I meant Ultimate class, sorry.Ultra Markus wrote:um... i have most all the supreme class tfs that came out over the years and they are all pretty much the same size
2007/ROTF Ultimate Bumblebee and DOTM Ultimate Optimus Prime are the same size class but very different sizes.
Fort Max is not a Titan class. He predates size classes. Metroplex is the only official Titan class toy, and Devastator will go to show how Metroplex's size isn't the standard for the class.Ultra Markus wrote:and there have only been 2 toys in the history of Transformers that are titan class the first which i dont think was refereed as a titan and the second which was the only one called a titan im talking about Fortress maximus and Metroplex
Posted by Ultra Markus on January 11th, 2015 @ 8:50pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Whoops, I meant Ultimate class, sorry.Ultra Markus wrote:um... i have most all the supreme class tfs that came out over the years and they are all pretty much the same size
2007/ROTF Ultimate Bumblebee and DOTM Ultimate Optimus Prime are the same size class but very different sizes.Fort Max is not a Titan class. He predates size classes. Metroplex is the only official Titan class toy, and Devastator will go to show how Metroplex's size isn't the standard for the class.Ultra Markus wrote:and there have only been 2 toys in the history of Transformers that are titan class the first which i dont think was refereed as a titan and the second which was the only one called a titan im talking about Fortress maximus and Metroplex
what ever dude its only titan because of the price then, that's only if they go with 6 voyagers
Posted by Sabrblade on January 11th, 2015 @ 8:53pm CST
Isn't that usually the case for irregularly-sized toys that don't fit the normal standard?Ultra Markus wrote:what ever dude its only titan because of the price then,
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 11th, 2015 @ 8:58pm CST
Posted by Tsutsukakushi on January 11th, 2015 @ 9:05pm CST
Cobotron wrote:Mkall wrote:So TRU purchases it for $120, adds a 33.3% markup, and that's how they get to the 179.99 price.
Fascinating. I wonder if a 33% markup is standard for all their TF toys? That in and of itself provides very interesting insight to the retailer cost of any TF.
I have always been under the impression that all retail does a 100% markup.
Very interesting.
Doesn't TRU in Canada always charges much more than TRU in the USA?
Speculating, we still might not know the TRU USA Titan Devastator price. guessing Titan Devastator will be Titan Metroplex price. Also hoping it's not only a TRU store exclusive.
Agree TRU Stores always charge a mark up of much more than Walmart and Target does.
MasterSoundBlaster wrote:Just as long as it isn't prowlestator, I'll be happy
Also don't want a Prowl toy mixed in with this Titan Devastator toy. Want it to be composed of the Six updates 1985 Constructicons characters toys and that's it.
Posted by Ultra Markus on January 11th, 2015 @ 9:11pm CST
Posted by Wh33l Jck on January 11th, 2015 @ 9:14pm CST
On the positive side TRU is a place where they can sell a higher priced collecter item, and put a little more effort into it, maybe even on level of 3rd parties.
On the down side it will be sold a TRU, where is will be a bear of a time trying to find in stores.
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 11th, 2015 @ 9:18pm CST
Ultra Markus wrote:my point was that the other combiner wars combiners don't refer to the class of the combined robot and the fact that each part is sold separately as deluxes and voyagers,for this devastator why not sell each part separately as voyagers, why now do they want to release as a set with a huge price tag when buying seperatly would be easier on everbody
Because then Hasbro would have to release six more products at the voyager price point, six more products that to parents will look exactly the same: large construction vehicles painted green and purple. Not to mention, Hasbro has to convince retailers to buy those waves of nigh-identical looking products and allocate all that shelf-space for a higher than normal price-point item. Releasing Devastator as a gift set to a toy specialty store makes perfect sense.
Posted by Tsutsukakushi on January 11th, 2015 @ 9:19pm CST
Ultra Markus wrote:my point was that the other combiner wars combiners don't refer to the class of the combined robot and the fact that each part is sold separately as deluxes and voyagers,for this devastator why not sell each part separately as voyagers, why now do they want to release as a set with a huge price tag when buying seperatly would be easier on everbody
It's still early in the game. For all we know TRU stores might plan to release all of the CW combiners. As Gift sets exclusives and also regular retail CW combiners sold individually.
It's plausible that TRU stores might sell Generartions Devastator as a Titan gift set. While others sell generations Devastator as Six Individual Voyagers releases.
Posted by Wh33l Jck on January 11th, 2015 @ 9:20pm CST
I'm fine with him being the biggest and baddest as well. To me he was always the strongest of the combiners.
Posted by Tsutsukakushi on January 11th, 2015 @ 9:28pm CST
Posted by It Is Him on January 11th, 2015 @ 9:31pm CST
Posted by Desslok2201 on January 11th, 2015 @ 9:59pm CST
It Is Him wrote:Based on the insane price point of the reissue insecticons, it would be hilarious if this winds up being a G1 Devastator reissue, and not a new toy. And by hilarious, I mean sad.
Exactly. No one has seen this yet, and t mght just be fugly, a reissue, or a 'new' Devastator made up of a bobcat, a scooby doo van and four identical bulldozers. Alpha Bravo, anyone?
Posted by Ultra Markus on January 11th, 2015 @ 10:01pm CST
Wolfman Jake wrote:Ultra Markus wrote:my point was that the other combiner wars combiners don't refer to the class of the combined robot and the fact that each part is sold separately as deluxes and voyagers,for this devastator why not sell each part separately as voyagers, why now do they want to release as a set with a huge price tag when buying seperatly would be easier on everbody
Because then Hasbro would have to release six more products at the voyager price point, six more products that to parents will look exactly the same: large construction vehicles painted green and purple. Not to mention, Hasbro has to convince retailers to buy those waves of nigh-identical looking products and allocate all that shelf-space for a higher than normal price-point item. Releasing Devastator as a gift set to a toy specialty store makes perfect sense.
so it makes more sense for parents to shell out over 120 bucks on one toy vs 25 and that they can buy the others at later dates, im a parent myself and i know the difference in characters that my kids like and spending a lot on a toy that a kid may or may not keep in good condition is not very sensible
Posted by wilcosu35 on January 11th, 2015 @ 10:19pm CST
Ultra Markus wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:Ultra Markus wrote:my point was that the other combiner wars combiners don't refer to the class of the combined robot and the fact that each part is sold separately as deluxes and voyagers,for this devastator why not sell each part separately as voyagers, why now do they want to release as a set with a huge price tag when buying seperatly would be easier on everbody
Because then Hasbro would have to release six more products at the voyager price point, six more products that to parents will look exactly the same: large construction vehicles painted green and purple. Not to mention, Hasbro has to convince retailers to buy those waves of nigh-identical looking products and allocate all that shelf-space for a higher than normal price-point item. Releasing Devastator as a gift set to a toy specialty store makes perfect sense.
so it makes more sense for parents to shell out over 120 bucks on one toy vs 25 and that they can buy the others at later dates, im a parent myself and i know the difference in characters that my kids like and spending a lot on a toy that a kid may or may not keep in good condition is not very sensible
not all parents are sensible. a friend of mine once paid 400 euro's for an electronic piano, so "his kid could play with it"..... fyi, the boy was barely a year old at that time. AFAIK, the thing now either stands unused in the house somewhere, or he already sold it off (haven't seen it in his living room for a while)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 11th, 2015 @ 10:23pm CST
Ultra Markus wrote:Wolfman Jake wrote:Ultra Markus wrote:my point was that the other combiner wars combiners don't refer to the class of the combined robot and the fact that each part is sold separately as deluxes and voyagers,for this devastator why not sell each part separately as voyagers, why now do they want to release as a set with a huge price tag when buying seperatly would be easier on everbody
Because then Hasbro would have to release six more products at the voyager price point, six more products that to parents will look exactly the same: large construction vehicles painted green and purple. Not to mention, Hasbro has to convince retailers to buy those waves of nigh-identical looking products and allocate all that shelf-space for a higher than normal price-point item. Releasing Devastator as a gift set to a toy specialty store makes perfect sense.
so it makes more sense for parents to shell out over 120 bucks on one toy vs 25 and that they can buy the others at later dates, im a parent myself and i know the difference in characters that my kids like and spending a lot on a toy that a kid may or may not keep in good condition is not very sensible
Which is why the target audience for this figure is very likely adult collectors and not kids. Sure, kids CAN play with it, it will be produced to U.S. toy safety standards as it will be sold as a "toy", and well-to-do parents are welcome to buy it for their children, but there's also a new line of kid-friendly, perfectly fine to treat without "kid gloves" Transformers with a brand-new TV show tie-in they could buy instead for much less money. Are you also upset that Masterpiece figures are very expensive and sold exclusively through TRU in the U.S.?
Posted by shajaki on January 11th, 2015 @ 10:32pm CST
Desslok2201 wrote:It Is Him wrote:Based on the insane price point of the reissue insecticons, it would be hilarious if this winds up being a G1 Devastator reissue, and not a new toy. And by hilarious, I mean sad.
Exactly. No one has seen this yet, and t mght just be fugly, a reissue, or a 'new' Devastator made up of a bobcat, a scooby doo van and four identical bulldozers. Alpha Bravo, anyone?
Posted by Wolfman Jake on January 11th, 2015 @ 11:09pm CST
Desslok2201 wrote:It Is Him wrote:Based on the insane price point of the reissue insecticons, it would be hilarious if this winds up being a G1 Devastator reissue, and not a new toy. And by hilarious, I mean sad.
Exactly. No one has seen this yet, and t mght just be fugly, a reissue, or a 'new' Devastator made up of a bobcat, a scooby doo van and four identical bulldozers. Alpha Bravo, anyone?
Before we declare the sky is falling, remember that the initial reports of this Devastator set said specifically that it would consist of six "voyager" sized figures. The reporting source got information from something, assumedly, more concrete than a TRU listing. This new listing is just further evidence that what was reported earlier is credible. It is NOT breaking news in itself, though nothing is certain until Hasbro show's its hand. Long story short: It's MUCH more likely that this is NOT simply a G1 reissue (or a repainted RotF Devastator).
Posted by william-james88 on January 11th, 2015 @ 11:52pm CST
Tsutsukakushi wrote:
Doesn't TRU in Canada always charges much more than TRU in the USA?
Speculating, we still might not know the TRU USA Titan Devastator price. guessing Titan Devastator will be Titan Metroplex price. Also hoping it's not only a TRU store exclusive.
They only charge more to make up for the exchange. And with the crappy exchange today, Canada sometimes gets them for cheaper.
Example of Canada and US TRU Prices:
A voyager (generations or AOE) is 29.99$ canadian which is 25.54$ US, so the same price as a voyager in the states.
MP Sunstorm is 89.99$ canadian which is 76.16$ US, so it is actually cheaper than MP Sunstorm in the states which retails for 79.99$.
This price for devastator means to me, without a doubt that he will sell for 149.99$ US. It only makes sense with the trend they use of "round" numbers when differentiating for the exchange.
And for the record, that 120$ cost doesnt make any sense to me. I worked in collectable retail and the average is 100% markup. The 120$ must mean something else, but "what" I dont know.
Posted by Desslok2201 on January 11th, 2015 @ 11:56pm CST
Posted by Cobotron on January 12th, 2015 @ 12:03am CST
This is a good point. Toy Fair is a trade show for buyers. If the buyers can't buy it, why show it. Maybe it will get it's own reveal.Tsutsukakushi wrote:Has the Hasbro Toy fair ever shown Transformers store exclusives? Don't remember ever seeing any. If Titan Devastator is a TRU exclusive wondering if he'll be revealed during toy fair or not.
I also wouldn't be surprised if it's a shared exclusive with BBTS.
Posted by fenrir72 on January 12th, 2015 @ 12:06am CST
Posted by william-james88 on January 12th, 2015 @ 12:12am CST
Cobotron wrote:This is a good point. Toy Fair is a trade show for buyers. If the buyers can't buy it, why show it. Maybe it will get it's own reveal.Tsutsukakushi wrote:Has the Hasbro Toy fair ever shown Transformers store exclusives? Don't remember ever seeing any. If Titan Devastator is a TRU exclusive wondering if he'll be revealed during toy fair or not.
I also wouldn't be surprised if it's a shared exclusive with BBTS.
Where did the First Edition Age of Extinction Prime get revealed? I remember it was a toy show like this and it turned out to be an exclusive afterall.