ROTF Voyager Mixmaster instructions

Battle mode. Great. And where is the "Devastator's head" mode? F*** Hasbro.

Cool transformation, and a tankish looking mode....... ok im sold. Now i need to think of name for it. Damn im running out. Last movie took most of em.

Bumblebeast wrote:Battle mode. Great. And where is the "Devastator's head" mode? F*** Hasbro.

My thoughts exactly....

I wonder if its just one construction who has the whole instructions on making devistator. cuss he looks easy to make the face.

Autobot032 wrote:If they can make a Jackhammer mode for Rampage, and weapons tank mode for Mixmaster (that's TWO triplechangers so far...) then they most certainly could've made them combine.

Im starting to have a new theory based on the toys, probably not going to happen but fits with what they're trying to pull;

Devastator is one thing, one spark in the beginning, he's 6 [or 7] construction vehicles combined. That's the first toy set. Somehow he/his spark gets dispersed into separate sparks [hoping the twins sacrifice themselves in the beginning to do so], then becoming separate entities/bots, those toys being the individual constructicons like this with an odd third mode.

Hard Hacker wrote:I think a lot of you are being unreasonable. If they had included the Devastator body part mode, then the toy would be too complex and over engineered for children to play with. (You know, children! The real target audience of this product.)

Forget the kids give me a proper Devastator!

Anyways, I hope that a third party comes up with a clever form to make them combine. I'll probably get the individual constructicons, but not that Voltron thing.

Hard Hacker wrote:I think a lot of you are being unreasonable. If they had included the Devastator body part mode, then the toy would be too complex and over engineered for children to play with. (You know, children! The real target audience of this product.)

Nicely put together! Some people just can't seem to get around the fact that Hasbro wasn't created to purely satisfy the wants of adult collectors, otherwise it would have run into the ground of bankruptcy a long time ago. Of course it tries to fulfill some of our wishes, but the decisions it chooses, for better or for worse, are ultimately it's own to choose, not ours.

Well, that nice cross-sectional view of Mixmaster's cement barrel (panel 4) automatically disproves any hint/capability of a vacuum maw. I'm not staring too deeply at the instructions, this stuff is serious joy-killing spoilers for me. I...like his third mode? It's a cool turret, what with the appropriately-placed cement-barrel parts acting as shields and the BFG poking out in the middle, but it's not a really a selling point in my eyes (it seems to consist of his bot-mode doing yoga in the instructions), since the robot mode and alt-mode are still extremely awesome, I consider it to be some sort of 'bonus' mode like Energon Scorponok's 'jet' mode. Seems to me that his BFG can only be swung over his head with some difficulty, so it's a bit of a letdown. Ah well, I still like Bonecrusher v2.0 plenty.

harvester wrote:

Autobot032 wrote:If they can make a Jackhammer mode for Rampage, and weapons tank mode for Mixmaster (that's TWO triplechangers so far...) then they most certainly could've made them combine.

Im starting to have a new theory based on the toys, probably not going to happen but fits with what they're trying to pull;

Devastator is one thing, one spark in the beginning, he's 6 [or 7] construction vehicles combined. That's the first toy set. Somehow he/his spark gets dispersed into separate sparks [hoping the twins sacrifice themselves in the beginning to do so], then becoming separate entities/bots, those toys being the individual constructicons like this with an odd third mode.

Not a bad idea, but not the one we're getting. Devastator appears at the end of the film, atop the Pyramids in Giza. You see Demolishor in robot mode (alone) in the opening sequence in China.

So, they start out separate and then combine towards the end.

Not a bad idea though, seriously.

Hard Hacker wrote:I think a lot of you are being unreasonable. If they had included the Devastator body part mode, then the toy would be too complex and over engineered for children to play with. (You know, children! The real target audience of this product.)

Unreasonable? US? Are you serious? What the... NO! We're not being unreasonable!

The toys are already complex enough as is. (Mixmaster's instructions actually gave me a bit of a headache...) Gut the the third mode, and in it's place make a combiner connection. Same amount of difficulty as is right now, but with the ability to combine. How is that asking too much of them? I think you're missing the point there.

You want to know what's really unreasonable?

Paying $99.50 for a transforming set of figures that don't combine.
Plus another $100.00 for a set that does, but has no individual robot modes.

$199.50 to have the ultimate set of ROTF Constructicons is absolutely, without a doubt, 110% unreasonable. You talk about figure difficulty for kids, well what about affordability problems for kids?

With the economy as it is right now, most kids won't be able to afford more than two figures (or one Voyager), parents certainly won't be willing to shell out more, and even some of us have cut down our TF spending.

That's unreasonable. Asking for an intricate combiner (when we know they've had the technology for years) is not only reasonable, it's fiscally responsible. (And I say that with a straight face, because it's true.)

Hasbro went beyond reason a long time ago. This is just icing on the cake.

Oh and btw...kids are going to want a set of Constructions that form Devastator just as much as we do, and when they figure out the Devastator they bought is nothing more than a glorified Megazord, when the film creation was the six robots, they're not only going to be confused, but they're gonna be pissed.

Don't dumb kids down, they're far smarter and more capable than you give them credit for. I've seen kids take Rubik's Cube-esque TFs and figure out how to transform them no problem.

Unreasonable? Right.

I'm on the side of Hasbro here. I mean, look at the engineering on that thing; it's an intricate transformation to be sure. How the hell are Hasbro supposed to stash Devastator's face in there as well, given that the mixer barrel unfolds in at least six different directions already?

Demolishor has the same problem. He transforms into a spindly, ungainly robot that's all arms and wheels. The other version (with no robot mode) unfolds in all sorts of other different ways to form a solid torso.

I know Hasbro are usually really good at designing great transformations, but they can't pull a genie out of a bottle. There's simply no way on earth you can get those body parts AND a movie-accurate robot mode out of the same toy, especially if you want Devastator to have some kind of articulation as well.

Given the above, I think that Hasbro's solution is a rather elegant and clever compromise.