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Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review!

Transformers News: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review!

Thursday, May 17th, 2018 1:58AM CDT

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It's been a few weeks since Power of the Primes, the third and final installment of the Machinima series of Transformers cartoons, and this Tuesday brought with it episode 3, "Without Warning". The previous two episodes haven't lived up to many expectations, will the third be any different? Tune in as we take a look at the episode to find out. Read on!

(Note: The following review contains spoilers for the Machinima Power of the Primes cartoon.)

So, we start out again in the swamp, a place that the cast somehow hasn't been able to move on from for the entire show so far, with Victorion still being tossed around by Predaking, a new character in the show who just arrived last episode. Windblade tries to help by...shooting Victorion several times.

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*rubs temples*

Perceptor tries to find a way to help that consists of actual helping, as Volcanicus, the combiner made up of the dinobots, starts to gain consciousness again after being shot to the ground by Predaking in the last episode. He promptly starts chasing after the Predacons for revenge.
We catch up with Megatron, who approaches the shiny thing he was distracted by in the last episode, and it turns out to be a giant energon waterfall that looks like a Matrix, with the insignia of the various original Primes stamped on it.

Perceptor tries to distract Predaking from attacking the others, and soon all three of the main cast are being chased by two giant combiners.

Transformers News: Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Cartoon Discussion Thread
*Record Scratch* *Freeze Frame* "Yep, that's me. I bet you're wondering how I got here..."\

Something to touch base on here briefly is the random inclusion of assorted slow motion shots peppered in here or there through the episode. They are painfully out of place, and haven't been a part of the show so far, (or either of the other shows, if memory serves) so they're a bit of a jarring change. They remind me of the infamous split screen edits that randomly popped up in the second half of the previous series.

We also catch up with the main baddie of this series, Megatronus, who has released the Enigma of Combination to place it in a shrine of sorts, at the head of the well of sparks, deep in the heart of Cybertron.

Transformers News: Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Cartoon Discussion Thread
Oh God*** it it's just the ******* Infinity Gauntlet, isn't it?!?

As he sets the the Enigma within the altar, we're treated to another flashback from the days of the original Primes. Solus begs Megatronus to return the Requiem Blaster so she can destroy it, promising she'll craft him more weapons in exchange. She mentions she doesn't want to fuel his, *ahem*, appetite for destruction, if you will.

Megatronus promises he'll take care of the blaster, but Solus grabs it from his back. They fight over it, accidentally triggering it to fire. A beam is launched off the surface of Cybertron, killing Solus in the process. Megatronus mourns her as the spark drains from her optics.

Transformers News: Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Cartoon Discussion Thread
something something topical gun control joke

He watches a spark fall into the well, and comments that his henchmen are doing their job, further confirming no one else lives on this **** planet. He opens a briefcase to reveal the Matrix of Leadership to add it to the shrine.

Transformers News: Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Cartoon Discussion Thread

Fun is not something one considers when watching a terrible cartoon, but this...doesn't put a smile on my face.

Back in the swamp, our heroes are still being chased by the two combiners, when they reach the obvious conclusion of trying to make them fight each other. The pacing of the scene is literally slowed down because of another slo-mo shot. To make matters worse, Windblade talks, in the middle of the shot, at normal speed. I just... I just don't know anymore.

After running a long distance from where they first landed and met the Dinobots, they all get launched off a cliff by one of Predaking's blasts, but neither of the Combiners see it coming, so they fall as well, farther into the canyon. The heroes have a moment to regroup and find...Megatron and his giant Matrix waterfall?!? ******* what?!?
Transformers News: Re: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Cartoon Discussion Thread
The Miraculous Teleporting Megatron; Wherever The Plot Needs Him To Be.

But the newly reacquainted group doesn't have long to chat, as Predaking and Volcanicus show up again, having magically climbed a giant cliff face in justa handful of seconds with no other signs or clues that they were approaching.
Megatron enters the Matrix building and tells the others to wait there. The episode ends.

Oh my God.

I said last week that the show felt like it was just sitting here spinning it's wheels, and this episode illustrates that perfectly. The main cast have been in the swamp for all three episodes now, and for the majority of that time simply being chased around in circles. They're accomplishing nothing, and it's getting extremely frustrating. This episode could basically have been the first, practically beat for beat. "Find enemy. Fight enemy. Figure out how to beat enemy. Run away. Repeat." The glaring plot holes and continuity errors are ridiculous, and the end of this episode is the first time I've actually shouted at my screen because of these shows. If I have to search for a positive, I like the idea of the various relics combining their power to create...something. It's fairly cool, if a little overdone by other shows. Entertainingly bad, but little more. See you next week.

Thanks for reading my review of Episode 3, you can find it on go90 and the Transformers Tumblr if you wanna watch it for yourself. Come back and tell me what you thought of the episode, and what you thought of my review! I'll see you next week when we take a look at episode 4!
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Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1959932)
Posted by Burn on May 17th, 2018 @ 3:20am CDT
There's a website out there dedicated to comic books and their associated TVs and Movies. They had a guy who was going to watch Batman vs Superman every day for a month and each day would post his thoughts (like he might notice something new).

He stopped posting after 10 days and hasn't posted since.

I'm worried this may happen to Bronzewolf, forcing himself to sit through this (most likely more than once to make sure he gets everything!) each week to bring us reviews.

Stay strong man, stay strong.
Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1959937)
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 17th, 2018 @ 4:52am CDT
Burn wrote:There's a website out there dedicated to comic books and their associated TVs and Movies. They had a guy who was going to watch Batman vs Superman every day for a month and each day would post his thoughts (like he might notice something new).

He stopped posting after 10 days and hasn't posted since.

I'm worried this may happen to Bronzewolf, forcing himself to sit through this (most likely more than once to make sure he gets everything!) each week to bring us reviews.

Stay strong man, stay strong.


I always assumed you or other staff had forced this on bronze wolf as divine punishment :-P

Good review bronze, I think apart from wanting to see this all through to the bitter end, I think I watch it just for your review and screenshot jabs afterwards.
Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1959938)
Posted by Burn on May 17th, 2018 @ 4:58am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:I always assumed you or other staff had forced this on bronze wolf as divine punishment :-P

Being News Crew is punishment enough. Image
Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1959944)
Posted by Randomhero on May 17th, 2018 @ 5:43am CDT
Up swamp without a paddle...wow and we’re gonna criticize the writing of this series?
Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1959947)
Posted by Qwan on May 17th, 2018 @ 7:06am CDT
Burn wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:I always assumed you or other staff had forced this on bronze wolf as divine punishment :-P

Being News Crew is punishment enough. Image
Hey now, it's not that bad. We have... bluer... names. Yeah.

Randomhero wrote:Up swamp without a paddle...wow and we’re gonna criticize the writing of this series?
Well to be fair, the writers working on this series actually got paid to do so. (Probably.)
Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1959952)
Posted by MrBlack on May 17th, 2018 @ 7:49am CDT
Burn wrote:There's a website out there dedicated to comic books and their associated TVs and Movies. They had a guy who was going to watch Batman vs Superman every day for a month and each day would post his thoughts (like he might notice something new).

He stopped posting after 10 days and hasn't posted since.

I'm worried this may happen to Bronzewolf, forcing himself to sit through this (most likely more than once to make sure he gets everything!) each week to bring us reviews.

Stay strong man, stay strong.

I'm actually an admin at the site in question. The dude vanished off the face of the Earth.

Don't let the same fate befall you Bronzewolf!
Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1959957)
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 17th, 2018 @ 8:01am CDT
The curse of batman vs Superman begins..
Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1959974)
Posted by Rodimus Knight on May 17th, 2018 @ 9:45am CDT
I actually liked the part where Victorian got hit by Windblade's fire. I mean she's doing a strafing run, and it would really have been impossible for her to not hit, but in so many other cartoons, the bullets would have miraculously missed.

I suppose it looks like Megatronious wants to bring his dead lover back from the dead, at least that's what it looks like. Seriously, there was a good chance if that is the plot, that he might have just been able to ask for help.
Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1959975)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 17th, 2018 @ 9:47am CDT
Rodimus Knight wrote:I suppose it looks like Megatronious wants to bring his dead lover back from the dead, at least that's what it looks like. Seriously, there was a good chance if that is the plot, that he might have just been able to ask for help.
Oh, but, see, then he wouldn't be EEEEEVIIIIIL! :-P
Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1959988)
Posted by DarkEnergon on May 17th, 2018 @ 10:24am CDT
I expect cheap plot devices like pop-up megatron, these are short episodes, and the show engages me just enough to want it to work.

But nothing makes any f'ing sense!

Why doesn't Volcanicus attack Predaking?

Why doesn't Victorion ever separate and GTFO?

Why does the fight between them all drag on for three episodes?

Why does Windblade *land and transform* only to *run away on her feet?**
Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1959990)
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 17th, 2018 @ 10:27am CDT
Aside from the dinobots, when has any combiner actually uncombined?
Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1959999)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 17th, 2018 @ 11:03am CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Aside from the dinobots, when has any combiner actually uncombined?
We've seen Long Haul, Scavenger, Scrapper, and Stormclash in the previous two shows.
Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1960002)
Posted by Bronzewolf on May 17th, 2018 @ 11:07am CDT
Thanks, everybody. Last week was the least fun it's been, it was just bad; but this week it was entertainingly bad, like I said in the review. At least I had material to work off of.

I wish I could get to the point where I could offer the series higher criticism, Pacing, Camera work, tone, actual scene to scene editing, etc. But it's so plagued by these terrible plot holes and Dues ex Machina moments that I can't even get there.

And hey, I thought Up the Swamp Without a Paddle was a good title, seeing as they haven't moved from one sidequest in three episodes and it's just getting worse and worse. It's fitting. I almost named it WHAT THE **** IS GOING OOOOOONNN but I thought a) that was too long and b) wouldn't exactly fly with my superiors. ;)
Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1960006)
Posted by o.supreme on May 17th, 2018 @ 11:30am CDT
I have to say it againPREDAKING FLAPPED HIS WINGS!!, while jumping/falling off a cliff no less.

start at 45 seconds to see Predaking. Actually if you guys don't mind, since I'm 2 for 2 this may be a weekly thing for me now. Finding a moment in each episode of PotP that reminds me of Looney Tunes.
Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1960008)
Posted by Bronzewolf on May 17th, 2018 @ 11:43am CDT
Also, I realized why I never explained myself as to why this was so late. Believe it or not, these take about 3 hours from front to back to produce. I just couldn't find that much time yesterday. I was about to put it up yesterday, but the site went down. I couldn't get it live until late last night. Next week we'll be more on time!
Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1960055)
Posted by Burn on May 17th, 2018 @ 4:21pm CDT
MrBlack wrote:I'm actually an admin at the site in question.

HA! Serious? That's awesome!

I keep trying to get Va'al to take an approach to news like you guys do just to make it a bit more fun.
Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1960056)
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 17th, 2018 @ 4:25pm CDT
How do they do the news like?
Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1960057)
Posted by Burn on May 17th, 2018 @ 4:31pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:How do they do the news like?

Sarcasm.

The sort of style you need when writing about Transformers vs Visionaries or this train-wreck of a trilogy.
Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1960058)
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 17th, 2018 @ 4:38pm CDT
Ah sarcasm, easy to learn, a lifetime to master.
Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1960059)
Posted by o.supreme on May 17th, 2018 @ 4:43pm CDT
Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1960087)
Posted by MrBlack on May 17th, 2018 @ 7:39pm CDT
Burn wrote:
MrBlack wrote:I'm actually an admin at the site in question.

HA! Serious? That's awesome!

I keep trying to get Va'al to take an approach to news like you guys do just to make it a bit more fun.

In all fairness, we burned pretty much every bridge in the comic book industry.

DC blacklisted us a few years back. Not sure if that rule still holds.
Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1960104)
Posted by william-james88 on May 17th, 2018 @ 10:24pm CDT
Maybe a few of you were underwhelmed with how little Megatron had done so far in Machinima's Transformers Power of the Primes series, but things are about to change. The official Transformers Facebook page posted a featurette video about the Requiem Blaster. This is the gun forged by Solus Prime. We see some clips of events yet to happen as well, which includes Megatron weilding this fabelled weapon. You can watch it below. Let us know if you are looking forward to this and what you think of the show so far.

Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1960107)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 17th, 2018 @ 10:53pm CDT
Gee, that clip sure gives away a lot of what's gonna happen in later episodes of this show, as though this show can't simply handle telling its story by itself. :roll:
Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1960109)
Posted by Qwan on May 17th, 2018 @ 11:23pm CDT
You know, I guess I should've expected it by now, but I was still surprised at how easily they managed to make me giggle without even needing voice acting or any of the "usual" stuff that makes me laugh at this show. That descriptive text is so badly executed and the music so unfitting - I just can't take any of it seriously :lol:
Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1960117)
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 18th, 2018 @ 1:40am CDT
You think that's bad? Try rematch information the chase scenes with the benny Hill music over the top
Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1960121)
Posted by Autobot Roadburn on May 18th, 2018 @ 3:25am CDT
Screen Shot 2018-05-18 at 1.21.51 AM.png

Good lord. I like to imagine this would sound like the voice of the news announcer fish from Spongebob, completely overly dramatic. At least on that show it's supposed to be over the top for the sake of a joke.
Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1960138)
Posted by Rodimus Knight on May 18th, 2018 @ 7:28am CDT
Hidden away in a rock and waterfall shaped like the matrix with the symbols of all the primes etched on it's extra shinny surface for any random passerby to notice.
Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1960143)
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 18th, 2018 @ 8:12am CDT
You expected it to be hard to find? :-P
Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1960147)
Posted by william-james88 on May 18th, 2018 @ 8:29am CDT
Serious question: Is Machinima's Generations series the worst TF show ever done? Is it truly worst than Energon? I think if you include the hype machine (which inclues the CEO of Hasbro himself) and how much this fails to deliver, it might indeed be worse.
Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1960149)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 18th, 2018 @ 8:33am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Serious question: Is Machinima's Generations series the worst TF show ever done? Is it truly worst than Energon? I think if you include the hype machine (which inclues the CEO of Hasbro himself) and how much this fails to deliver, it might indeed be worse.
Many argue that either Energon or The Headmasters are still worse.
Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1960150)
Posted by Qwan on May 18th, 2018 @ 8:35am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Serious question: Is Machinima's Generations series the worst TF show ever done? Is it truly worst than Energon? I think if you include the hype machine (which inclues the CEO of Hasbro himself) and how much this fails to deliver, it might indeed be worse.
I think if we do count the disparity between hype and actual quality, this may well be the worst we've ever seen. Energon had to be an average show that existed on the airwaves to advertise toys to kids. These shows had to be the oft-quoted "Game of Thrones of animation". I don't know whether or not CW and brethren are actually worse than any other Transformers media or not, but taking into account prior expectations, these shows absolutely fell the furthest.
Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1960168)
Posted by o.supreme on May 18th, 2018 @ 9:47am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
william-james88 wrote:Serious question: Is Machinima's Generations series the worst TF show ever done? Is it truly worst than Energon? I think if you include the hype machine (which inclues the CEO of Hasbro himself) and how much this fails to deliver, it might indeed be worse.
Many argue that either Energon or The Headmasters are still worse.


I actually like Headmasters quite a bit. And Energon, for all its flaws wasn't horrible, until it kept going and then...and then...and then... If they had ended it with the fight between Unicron and Omega Superme, I don't think it would be as derided today. I know I am the outlier here, but I actually manage to enjoy Energon somewhat (at least the earlier episodes), unlike Armada, and Cybertron, which I really cant watch at all.

Honestly, I don't even consider these Machinima entries a *True* Transformers series, just a weird little oddity of shorts. What we should be comparing this to is things like

1.Robot Masters
2.Transformers:Universe
3.Transformers: Beginnings
4.Transformers: Cyber Missions
5.Transformers GO!

For me personally, I separate these from actual true Transformers series. And admittedly, while I have not seen all of thme, I think we should try to rank all of these, and see where the Prime wars Trilogy would rank among these. Just my opinion of course, but among the shorts listed above, where would Prime Wars fall..???
Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1960178)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 18th, 2018 @ 10:25am CDT
o.supreme wrote:I actually like Headmasters quite a bit.
I do too. But many in this fandom regard it as the single most boring TF cartoon ever made, while Energon and these Prime Wars Trilogy shows are more "hilariously bad" in ways that at least leave some value of amusement that allows people to laugh at how bonkers they are, whilst The Headmasters, they argue, is vapidly dull to the point of having zero entertainment value outside of the "hilariously bad" Malaysian English dub.

I don't conform to this viewpoint, but it is out there.
Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1960201)
Posted by william-james88 on May 18th, 2018 @ 12:52pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:these Prime Wars Trilogy shows are more "hilariously bad".


I am not laughing
Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1960204)
Posted by Bronzewolf on May 18th, 2018 @ 1:05pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:these Prime Wars Trilogy shows are more "hilariously bad".


I am not laughing

In fact, I'm screaming.
Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1960238)
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 18th, 2018 @ 3:00pm CDT
Bronzewolf wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:these Prime Wars Trilogy shows are more "hilariously bad".


I am not laughing

In fact, I'm screaming.

Well that's only because you're forced to watch them like the guy in a clockwork orange (or the chicken in the robot chicken intro) it's not like you get to spoof it with robot cohosts ;-)

I consider this to be the worst series, and for the record, I enjoyed the headmasters.
Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1960243)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 18th, 2018 @ 3:27pm CDT
Bronzewolf wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:these Prime Wars Trilogy shows are more "hilariously bad".


I am not laughing

In fact, I'm screaming.
Ah, but, see, that's what happens when we take a serious look at these shows. By "hilariously bad", I meant that these shows are chock full of material that is ripe for MST3K-style lambasting (as your write-ups have shown time and again). We can look back on these shows' badness and laugh at the pure insanity of "What were they thinking?!" that they presented us with.

Whereas those who would argue that The Headmasters, in its native language, doesn't even have that value as, to them, it's just so boring and empty with nothing worth enough to mock and make fun of.
Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1960257)
Posted by Bronzewolf on May 18th, 2018 @ 4:29pm CDT
Ha! Fun fact, actually, I built a replica Tom Servo for a con last year. My love for robots extends giant transforming ones.
Image


Hmmm... Great, now I have to stop myself from making a MST3k ripoff centered around riffing this series. Ugh :twisted:
Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1960260)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 18th, 2018 @ 4:37pm CDT
It's shows like this that are enough to make one wish that MSTF was still a thing, since these three shows were practically made for MSTF to poke fun at.
Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1960264)
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 18th, 2018 @ 4:53pm CDT
Bronzewolf wrote:Ha! Fun fact, actually, I built a replica Tom Servo for a con last year. My love for robots extends giant transforming ones.
Image


Hmmm... Great, now I have to stop myself from making a MST3k ripoff centered around riffing this series. Ugh :twisted:

That is awesome...and I support any and all attempts to riff on this...try and rope more staff into doing it with you ;-)
Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1960268)
Posted by Bronzewolf on May 18th, 2018 @ 5:06pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:
Bronzewolf wrote:Ha! Fun fact, actually, I built a replica Tom Servo for a con last year. My love for robots extends giant transforming ones.
Image


Hmmm... Great, now I have to stop myself from making a MST3k ripoff centered around riffing this series. Ugh :twisted:

That is awesome...and I support any and all attempts to riff on this...try and rope more staff into doing it with you ;-)

We could make it audio only, ala rifftrax. That would make it considerably easier to get other staff in on it... :-? We could do other shows, too. Headmasters, Unicron trilogy.
We gotta slide a bit back on topic, though. I'll run it by some staff, maybe make a thread and gauge interest...
Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1960273)
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 18th, 2018 @ 5:36pm CDT
I was thinking audio only would be best then people could listen to it over whatever it was you were making fun of.

As for this series, how many episodes will there be? I may have missed it already but it would be good to know how much time they've wasted on...well, not a lot
Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1960275)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 18th, 2018 @ 5:40pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:As for this series, how many episodes will there be? I may have missed it already but it would be good to know how much time they've wasted on...well, not a lot
Ten episodes.
Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1960337)
Posted by Seibertron on May 19th, 2018 @ 12:36am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Many argue that either Energon or The Headmasters are still worse.


Who argues that Headmasters is one of the worst? Energon seems to be equally despised along with the Prime Wars cartoons. I don't know that I've ever seen that opinion about Headmasters being on the same level as Energon before. I've seen some people complain about it, but no more so than G1 or the other cell animated Transformers cartoons. Headmasters is certainly better than Neo and BWII in my opinion. Masterforce, Headmasters and Victory are some of my all time favorites to this day.
Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1960343)
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 19th, 2018 @ 2:49am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:As for this series, how many episodes will there be? I may have missed it already but it would be good to know how much time they've wasted on...well, not a lot
Ten episodes.

Thanks sabr, so we're down almost a third of the series and only just made it out of the swamp.
Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1960378)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 19th, 2018 @ 9:46am CDT
Seibertron wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Many argue that either Energon or The Headmasters are still worse.


Who argues that Headmasters is one of the worst?
Lots of people in this fandom. Time and again I've had to speak up for how Energon is worse than The Headmasters and not vice-versa. The people who claim The Headmasters is worse consider it the dullest, most vapidly boring TF cartoon ever made, claiming that almost nothing engaging or remotely fun or interesting happens over the course of it, with anything potentially interesting in the series being wasted by mediocre execution, and all the characters (including the pre-1987 characters, but minus Sixshot) being stale and bland compared to their more colorfully-depicted American counterparts from the G1 cartoon, while also arguing that the only enjoyable thing about The Headmasters is its awful Malaysian English dub that turns the show from being lifelessly bad to being hilariously bad.

I myself don't agree with this assessment, but it is out there, and I've had to face it many times over.

As for Masterforce and Victory, these people do consider those to be drastic improvements over The Headmasters.
Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1960396)
Posted by william-james88 on May 19th, 2018 @ 12:45pm CDT
There is lots of good stuff to be had with headmasters (unlike these Prime trilogy shows which just feel so weak). For instance, that Mystery of the Space Pirate Ship is stellar.

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Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1960399)
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 19th, 2018 @ 12:52pm CDT
Hey will, who you punishing with the top 5 prime wars trilogy episodes :-P
Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1960401)
Posted by william-james88 on May 19th, 2018 @ 1:01pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Hey will, who you punishing with the top 5 prime wars trilogy episodes :-P

Probably the same guy who does the reviews MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Or we might go 5 worst episodes and make it more fun
Re: Up the Swamp Without a Paddle: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 3 Review! (1960859)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 21st, 2018 @ 11:12pm CDT
Episode 4: "Primal"

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