An Ominous Tweet From Micheal Bay About Transformers: The Last Knight
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Comment by Kurona
May 5, 2017
It's symbolic. The 'world to live' mentioned refers to the huge amount of Optimus Prime toys littering the shelves, while the 'world must die' mentioned refers to the huge amount of Bumblebee toys littering the shelves. With Hasbro's cost-cutting meaning they can't afford to produce as many as usual, they're kill Bumblebee's world of toys for Optimus'. Hence Prime ominously walking over to Bee to sacrifice him to the plastic toy gods.
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May 5, 2017
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Comment by MrBlack
May 5, 2017
Bumblebee has a movie coming out, and, even if it is a flashback, it makes little sense to have a showcase movie for a dead character.
My guess is that neither Prime nor Bumblebee die, but I think Prime is far more likely to bite it. He has a history of coming back from the dead, after all.
My guess is that neither Prime nor Bumblebee die, but I think Prime is far more likely to bite it. He has a history of coming back from the dead, after all.
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Comment by Deadput
May 5, 2017
Ah Ominous that's both my Mum's and one of my favorite words.
But lol at people thinking Bee's actually going to die after what happened back in 1986 Bee is literally the character kids adore most in Transformers which is why he has been used so much and has had so many toys.
But lol at people thinking Bee's actually going to die after what happened back in 1986 Bee is literally the character kids adore most in Transformers which is why he has been used so much and has had so many toys.
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Comment by Agent 53
May 5, 2017
For Primus' sake!
Bumblebee is as popular if not more than Optimus.
They have recently revealed Bumblebee to be alive in the IDW comics.
Due to the nuber across the board, particularly in the cheeper deluxe class (though not for TLK in the UK it's like 20 quid, a decade back it was 10 quid) Bee probably sells most toys.
Optimus is one of the villains of the film.
Bumblebee is the lead of the current Cartoon series.
Hot Rod is also in the film.
Optimus has enough deaths to warrant a wiki article about them.
Bee does not.
It all points in one of several directions.
Path 1
-Bumblebee manages to overpower Optimus and he dies.
-Hot Rod becomes Rodimus and suceeds Optimus
-OR-
-Bumblebee suceeds Optimus.
Path 2
-Bumblebee is severely injured
-Bumblebee is repaired.
-OR-
-Bumblebee is rebuilt as Goldbug
They aren't killing Bumblebee
Bumblebee is as popular if not more than Optimus.
They have recently revealed Bumblebee to be alive in the IDW comics.
Due to the nuber across the board, particularly in the cheeper deluxe class (though not for TLK in the UK it's like 20 quid, a decade back it was 10 quid) Bee probably sells most toys.
Optimus is one of the villains of the film.
Bumblebee is the lead of the current Cartoon series.
Hot Rod is also in the film.
Optimus has enough deaths to warrant a wiki article about them.
Bee does not.
It all points in one of several directions.
Path 1
-Bumblebee manages to overpower Optimus and he dies.
-Hot Rod becomes Rodimus and suceeds Optimus
-OR-
-Bumblebee suceeds Optimus.
Path 2
-Bumblebee is severely injured
-Bumblebee is repaired.
-OR-
-Bumblebee is rebuilt as Goldbug
They aren't killing Bumblebee
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You wrote a lot of good stuff and I totally agree that BB isnt dieing. these characters dont die and if they do, its not long, so no one should worry or lose sleep over arguing about it.
But I did want to comment on that line of yours. I really believe that Optimus is way more popular than Bumblebee. Of course, I dont have any numbers on the top of my head to back that up, but the films so far have gone out of their way to give him the great action set pieces instead of BB and I feel he is more popular than any other giant robot be it transformers related or not.
I even believe that Optimus Prime is as popular now as *gasp* Batman.
PS: I initially wrote "superman" but I realize that while that legacy is incredible, Superman is not as popular as he once was and batman has beaten him in sales loooooong ago.
Comment by william-james88
May 5, 2017
Agent 53 wrote:Bumblebee is as popular if not more than Optimus.
You wrote a lot of good stuff and I totally agree that BB isnt dieing. these characters dont die and if they do, its not long, so no one should worry or lose sleep over arguing about it.
But I did want to comment on that line of yours. I really believe that Optimus is way more popular than Bumblebee. Of course, I dont have any numbers on the top of my head to back that up, but the films so far have gone out of their way to give him the great action set pieces instead of BB and I feel he is more popular than any other giant robot be it transformers related or not.
I even believe that Optimus Prime is as popular now as *gasp* Batman.
PS: I initially wrote "superman" but I realize that while that legacy is incredible, Superman is not as popular as he once was and batman has beaten him in sales loooooong ago.
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Comment by Deadput
May 5, 2017
I think while Prime is the most popular overall I think Bee is more popular with the kids then Optimus is for most kids.
My personal opinion is that I like them but they have never been favorites of mine for some reason the main character(s) never become favorites it's always the side characters.
One of my fave cons is Hardtop and he has like what zero media representation besides toy bios?
Anyways Bee's not going anywhere but the closest I can see that happening is a Transformers Prime situation where he is dead for 1 minute before coming back "stronger then ever".
My personal opinion is that I like them but they have never been favorites of mine for some reason the main character(s) never become favorites it's always the side characters.
One of my fave cons is Hardtop and he has like what zero media representation besides toy bios?
Anyways Bee's not going anywhere but the closest I can see that happening is a Transformers Prime situation where he is dead for 1 minute before coming back "stronger then ever".
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Comment by megatronus
May 5, 2017
All I have to say is ugh.
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Wait, they have? I may need to start reading the IDW comics then!
Anyways, I really like the poster, despite Bumblebee looking like he's seen better days. Something seems off about Prime's left hand, it's at a weird angle. Maybe Bee broke it?
Comment by EvasionModeBumblebee
May 5, 2017
Agent 53 wrote:They have recently revealed Bumblebee to be alive in the IDW comics.
Wait, they have? I may need to start reading the IDW comics then!
Anyways, I really like the poster, despite Bumblebee looking like he's seen better days. Something seems off about Prime's left hand, it's at a weird angle. Maybe Bee broke it?
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Comment by Megatron Wolf
May 5, 2017
Bumblebees not going to die, hes a cash cow first of all and second it would please to many fans and we all know bay hates that. It probably just means in order for earth and the transformers to live the new villain/world thats introduced must be destroyed or in order for the future to survive the past must be changed or some crap like that. Only ones who are going to die are the decepticons and maybe one of the autobots, cause why try something different
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Comment by Carnivius_Prime
May 5, 2017
I just want that image as a poster. Like I've said for all the other TLK images of this type. 
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I think another major reason that Bumblebee's been around the whole time is just for continuity's sake. With the very high death rate of Transformers in these movies, it's nice to have a a few characters who are there throughout, kinda like R2 & 3PO over in Star Wars.
And the more Bumblebee we have, the better!
Comment by EvasionModeBumblebee
May 5, 2017
Megatron Wolf wrote:Bumblebees not going to die, hes a cash cow first of all and second it would please to many fans and we all know bay hates that. It probably just means in order for earth and the transformers to live the new villain/world thats introduced must be destroyed or in order for the future to survive the past must be changed or some crap like that. Only ones who are going to die are the decepticons and maybe one of the autobots, cause why try something different
I think another major reason that Bumblebee's been around the whole time is just for continuity's sake. With the very high death rate of Transformers in these movies, it's nice to have a a few characters who are there throughout, kinda like R2 & 3PO over in Star Wars.
And the more Bumblebee we have, the better!
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Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
May 5, 2017
Thanks to an article published on Variety, we have word that the release date for Transformers: The Last Knight has been moved up to Wednesday, June 21. The article makes mention of the fact that The Last Knight is Paramounts top prospect for 2017 and also reminds how the last 4 films have grossed $3.77 billion. It also goes on to talk about the footage shown off at Cinemacon back in March and also mentions Stanley Tucci, Josh Duhamel, Tyrese Gibson, and John Turturro returning along with Isabela Moner and Anthony Hopkins joining the cast. You can check out the short article by following the above link.
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You mean a vocal minority of adult fans on the internet that are too old to care as much as they do?
Many kids and fans would be upset if he died just like with Prime back when he died in 86.
That statement is ridiculousness and absurd where has Bay shown this so called "hatred" of fans?
Even if he did he has good reasons too with them constantly whining and threatening his life over minuscule stuff like god damn flames I'm glad he and Hasbro don't listen to the fans because fans are never satisfied and never will be.
He clearly like the franchise enough and did you know that he actually made the first 2007 Transformers film more like Transformers compared to the original Spielberg plan of making them all grey and mute?
Comment by Deadput
May 5, 2017
Megatron Wolf wrote:second it would please to many fans and we all know bay hates that.
You mean a vocal minority of adult fans on the internet that are too old to care as much as they do?
Many kids and fans would be upset if he died just like with Prime back when he died in 86.
That statement is ridiculousness and absurd where has Bay shown this so called "hatred" of fans?
Even if he did he has good reasons too with them constantly whining and threatening his life over minuscule stuff like god damn flames I'm glad he and Hasbro don't listen to the fans because fans are never satisfied and never will be.
He clearly like the franchise enough and did you know that he actually made the first 2007 Transformers film more like Transformers compared to the original Spielberg plan of making them all grey and mute?
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Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
May 5, 2017
Anyone else notice Bee already had his wings ripped off in that poster?
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Yep! Now I can't say the AOE repaint Bumblebee for this movie is totally inaccurate.
Comment by EvasionModeBumblebee
May 5, 2017
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Anyone else notice Bee already had his wings ripped off in that poster?
Yep! Now I can't say the AOE repaint Bumblebee for this movie is totally inaccurate.
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Comment by EagleBot13
May 5, 2017
That's not the Forge of Solus Prime Bee is holding, is it?
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It's been pointed out a lot how similar it looks, but we probably won't know until the actual movie is out
Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
May 5, 2017
EagleBot13 wrote:That's not the Forge of Solus Prime Bee is holding, is it?
It's been pointed out a lot how similar it looks, but we probably won't know until the actual movie is out
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Comment by Sabrblade
May 5, 2017
Looks pretty tiny if it were to be that.EagleBot13 wrote:That's not the Forge of Solus Prime Bee is holding, is it?
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Not only that, but the films stay away from anything we know in terms of relics found in different media. Tomb of the primes, all spark, the seed, none of that comes from any lore, along with almost anything else (like Sideswipe using swords). They have shown time and time again to do their own thing. I am always surprised when people try to give them a deeper level of story as if anyone creating it cared to look into other versions of these characters and lore. Not saying these movies are bad, but we shouldnt try to see something that isnt there. they are their own thing and I have no clue why 5 movies in people are still trying to link it with homages. This aint Star trek.
here is the sad truth:
Its just a hammer because hammers are cool
Anything more than that would greatly surprise me.
Comment by william-james88
May 5, 2017
Sabrblade wrote:Looks pretty tiny if it were to be that.EagleBot13 wrote:That's not the Forge of Solus Prime Bee is holding, is it?
Not only that, but the films stay away from anything we know in terms of relics found in different media. Tomb of the primes, all spark, the seed, none of that comes from any lore, along with almost anything else (like Sideswipe using swords). They have shown time and time again to do their own thing. I am always surprised when people try to give them a deeper level of story as if anyone creating it cared to look into other versions of these characters and lore. Not saying these movies are bad, but we shouldnt try to see something that isnt there. they are their own thing and I have no clue why 5 movies in people are still trying to link it with homages. This aint Star trek.
here is the sad truth:
Its just a hammer because hammers are cool
Anything more than that would greatly surprise me.
