Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting
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Seibertron.com member Downshift7 has reported seeing the elusive Transformers Revenge of the Fallen Bruticus Maximus combiner set at a Target store in the midwest.
Since the first reported sighting, this gestalt pack has been very hard to find for Transformers fans looking to add the 5 Decepticon war machines to their collections. With this new sighting comes hope that you could see Bruticus Maximus at an area Target store soon.
Have you seen a hard to find figure in your area? Please share the info with your fellow Seibertronians in our Sightings Thread.
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Since the first reported sighting, this gestalt pack has been very hard to find for Transformers fans looking to add the 5 Decepticon war machines to their collections. With this new sighting comes hope that you could see Bruticus Maximus at an area Target store soon.
Have you seen a hard to find figure in your area? Please share the info with your fellow Seibertronians in our Sightings Thread.
Keep your optics locked, right here at Seibertron.com, your Ultimate Transformers Resource.
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Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (978645)
Posted by Counterpunch on August 21st, 2009 @ 9:53am CDT
Well, it is lame for Onslaught to have no gun at all.
But otherwise, using the tanks as arms gives him twin mounted cannons on each arm...
Posted by Counterpunch on August 21st, 2009 @ 9:53am CDT
Convotron wrote:If the same was done for Bruticus Maximus, it would be much better. Adding a gun or cannon would be nice too. I mean, the combiner is made up of war machines. No one has a gun to spare? Come on.
Well, it is lame for Onslaught to have no gun at all.
But otherwise, using the tanks as arms gives him twin mounted cannons on each arm...
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (978649)
Posted by Stockade on August 21st, 2009 @ 9:58am CDT
Posted by Stockade on August 21st, 2009 @ 9:58am CDT
whats up with central Illinois getting everything! i thought western states got it first? even Illinois got Thrust and Gears first too and someone actually got two Bruticus! GD! so unfair... 
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (978653)
Posted by Convotron on August 21st, 2009 @ 10:05am CDT
True and the hands could be used as gun-hands I suppose.
Posted by Convotron on August 21st, 2009 @ 10:05am CDT
Counterpunch wrote:Convotron wrote:If the same was done for Bruticus Maximus, it would be much better. Adding a gun or cannon would be nice too. I mean, the combiner is made up of war machines. No one has a gun to spare? Come on.
Well, it is lame for Onslaught to have no gun at all.
But otherwise, using the tanks as arms gives him twin mounted cannons on each arm...
True and the hands could be used as gun-hands I suppose.
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (978665)
Posted by RiddlerJ on August 21st, 2009 @ 10:26am CDT
Posted by RiddlerJ on August 21st, 2009 @ 10:26am CDT
I'd like to get that set, but I already have the Energon Combaticons. I keep debating whether or not it's worth the money to pick up another set (expecially since that'll give me four versions of two molds)
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (978672)
Posted by dragons on August 21st, 2009 @ 10:35am CDT
Posted by dragons on August 21st, 2009 @ 10:35am CDT
i am dissapointed as much i hate these energon combiners ill still get them i dont want to have to 40 or more for energon combiner when i could get it for 30. at target & it still has not come in yet.
i dont get it gijoe is making more progress with releasing new figures in the gijoe rise of cobra series faster than transfromers yeah i will agree i would like to see an add on set for bruticus & devastator alone if there is plan in the future but for right now ill stick with him the way he is
i dont get it gijoe is making more progress with releasing new figures in the gijoe rise of cobra series faster than transfromers yeah i will agree i would like to see an add on set for bruticus & devastator alone if there is plan in the future but for right now ill stick with him the way he is
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (978675)
Posted by Prime Evil on August 21st, 2009 @ 10:39am CDT
Posted by Prime Evil on August 21st, 2009 @ 10:39am CDT
I'm definitely excited to get this set. I like this color scheme better then the Superlink version that I have. I never saw the superion version at my target and had to order online. I'm assuming I'll have to do the same for this guy. Hawt Fiyah!!
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (978680)
Posted by freaky777 on August 21st, 2009 @ 10:48am CDT
Posted by freaky777 on August 21st, 2009 @ 10:48am CDT
I've got the Universe 2.0 version along with Superion(also the Universe version) around May this year. And the stores in my area do not have the ROTF boxes of these figures as well. Now Im hoping they will do a Devastator Maximus!! That would complete my collection more.
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (978683)
Posted by Counterpunch on August 21st, 2009 @ 10:52am CDT
Punctuation...use it.
Posted by Counterpunch on August 21st, 2009 @ 10:52am CDT
dragons wrote:i am dissapointed as much i hate these energon combiners ill still get them i dont want to have to 40 or more for energon combiner when i could get it for 30. at target & it still has not come in yet.
i dont get it gijoe is making more progress with releasing new figures in the gijoe rise of cobra series faster than transfromers yeah i will agree i would like to see an add on set for bruticus & devastator alone if there is plan in the future but for right now ill stick with him the way he is
Punctuation...use it.
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (978693)
Posted by Razorclaw0000 on August 21st, 2009 @ 11:04am CDT
Using the tanks for arms makes BM the best of the three combiners, I think, especially if you separate the treads and swing down the center section. He gets really sweet shoulder decorations, and it helps to position the cannons parallel to the ground.
I'll pick this up and probably keep it MISB. I wish they would have swapped out one chopper for an Aerial bot jet for Blast-Off, though.
Posted by Razorclaw0000 on August 21st, 2009 @ 11:04am CDT
Counterpunch wrote:But otherwise, using the tanks as arms gives him twin mounted cannons on each arm...
Using the tanks for arms makes BM the best of the three combiners, I think, especially if you separate the treads and swing down the center section. He gets really sweet shoulder decorations, and it helps to position the cannons parallel to the ground.
I'll pick this up and probably keep it MISB. I wish they would have swapped out one chopper for an Aerial bot jet for Blast-Off, though.
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (978720)
Posted by shonenfan4 on August 21st, 2009 @ 11:52am CDT
Posted by shonenfan4 on August 21st, 2009 @ 11:52am CDT
Thanks for the replay on where this was bought. This will be hard to track down, as it took forever for me to actually track down Superion in a Target.
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (978725)
Posted by Razorclaw0000 on August 21st, 2009 @ 12:04pm CDT
Pro Tip: If you have a DPCI and your Target is completely out of stock on that item, *and* they don't have an arrival date, you can ask them nicely to do an inventory query at Guest Services (Customer Service Desk, usually up front) and they will give you a list of all Targets within x miles that have that item in stock, and even, sometimes, volunteer to call the other store to have one of the product pulled and taken to hold at guest services for 24 hours. For that reason alone, Target gets my business over Wal-Mart anytime I can help it. The one caveat is that if it's an assortment, they *WILL NOT* pull a specific figure for you. So, just ask for a case
Posted by Razorclaw0000 on August 21st, 2009 @ 12:04pm CDT
shonenfan4 wrote:Thanks for the replay on where this was bought. This will be hard to track down, as it took forever for me to actually track down Superion in a Target.
Pro Tip: If you have a DPCI and your Target is completely out of stock on that item, *and* they don't have an arrival date, you can ask them nicely to do an inventory query at Guest Services (Customer Service Desk, usually up front) and they will give you a list of all Targets within x miles that have that item in stock, and even, sometimes, volunteer to call the other store to have one of the product pulled and taken to hold at guest services for 24 hours. For that reason alone, Target gets my business over Wal-Mart anytime I can help it. The one caveat is that if it's an assortment, they *WILL NOT* pull a specific figure for you. So, just ask for a case
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (978793)
Posted by Seibertron on August 21st, 2009 @ 1:52pm CDT
Are you kidding? It's unprecedented how many Transformers have been releasead in less than 3 months. I can't believe we're on wave 6 deluxes already. Hasbro has already released far more product in the last three months than they do in 12 months. I think they've released about 120 to 150+ Transformers products since BotCon. I'm sure dollar for dollar there are tons more Transformers products that have been released compared to GiJoe.
Posted by Seibertron on August 21st, 2009 @ 1:52pm CDT
dragons wrote:i dont get it gijoe is making more progress with releasing new figures in the gijoe rise of cobra series faster than transfromers yeah i will agree i would like to see an add on set for bruticus & devastator alone if there is plan in the future but for right now ill stick with him the way he is
Are you kidding? It's unprecedented how many Transformers have been releasead in less than 3 months. I can't believe we're on wave 6 deluxes already. Hasbro has already released far more product in the last three months than they do in 12 months. I think they've released about 120 to 150+ Transformers products since BotCon. I'm sure dollar for dollar there are tons more Transformers products that have been released compared to GiJoe.
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (978805)
Posted by Razorclaw0000 on August 21st, 2009 @ 2:02pm CDT
My wallet heartily agrees. I've probably bought $800 on the first days the toys were out, and another $400/month since then.
Posted by Razorclaw0000 on August 21st, 2009 @ 2:02pm CDT
Seibertron wrote:dragons wrote:i dont get it gijoe is making more progress with releasing new figures in the gijoe rise of cobra series faster than transfromers yeah i will agree i would like to see an add on set for bruticus & devastator alone if there is plan in the future but for right now ill stick with him the way he is
Are you kidding? It's unprecedented how many Transformers have been releasead in less than 3 months. I can't believe we're on wave 6 deluxes already. Hasbro has already released far more product in the last three months than they do in 12 months. I think they've released about 120 to 150+ Transformers products since BotCon. I'm sure dollar for dollar there are tons more Transformers products that have been released compared to GiJoe.
My wallet heartily agrees. I've probably bought $800 on the first days the toys were out, and another $400/month since then.
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (978870)
Posted by JazZeke on August 21st, 2009 @ 3:35pm CDT
Posted by JazZeke on August 21st, 2009 @ 3:35pm CDT
I think this is a pretty nifty repaint. Probably the best of the Energon combiner molds (which I never got, since Superion and Constructicon looked like crap and I neevr ever saw the Buticus bots in stores). And as much as I would love to have a combiner team in my Classics lineup, I already have Universe Classics Onslaught and his awesomeness not only outweighs Bruticus, but the presence of them together in my lineups would be something of a paradox (not that didn't happen all the time in the cartoon, hah!). So, I'll be content with Onslaught, use Cybertron Swindle to represent his G1 namesake and pretend the rest of the Combaticons finally got killed off. 
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (978908)
Posted by tom brokaw on August 21st, 2009 @ 4:54pm CDT
Posted by tom brokaw on August 21st, 2009 @ 4:54pm CDT
i think today is a good day to go hunting for this guy
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (978961)
Posted by DevastaTTor on August 21st, 2009 @ 7:04pm CDT
Posted by DevastaTTor on August 21st, 2009 @ 7:04pm CDT
I'd at least like to see what FP would come up with for this guy. But since I'm not getting either, I don't really care if they have proper hands and feet or not. I do like this mold though.
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (978964)
Posted by fenrir72 on August 21st, 2009 @ 7:19pm CDT
Posted by fenrir72 on August 21st, 2009 @ 7:19pm CDT
I unfortunately missed the opportunity to get the original Superlink version. And from what I saw from their individual forms, the mold looked as "G.I.Joe" military kick @ss. Especially the central figure "Onslaught", who looked a lot like a "tank" commander pilot. But I'll have to agree with skywarp-2 on the hands and feet. Imho maybe just maybe the original designers was inhaling something more than oxygen when they came up with the "energon" doo-hickey appendage designs. What the heck were they thinking? That's why there'll be a market for indie upgrades.
If this one is hard to find, what more then if FP makes an upgrade for it? Btw for those who own one, is the "Cylone" head a part of the'bot like Superion Maximus or a mask component like the G-1 version? If so I wish FP will change the head.
If this one is hard to find, what more then if FP makes an upgrade for it? Btw for those who own one, is the "Cylone" head a part of the'bot like Superion Maximus or a mask component like the G-1 version? If so I wish FP will change the head.
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (978985)
Posted by DevastaTTor on August 21st, 2009 @ 8:22pm CDT
Hard to argue with this logic. Neither of these figures deserve to be or need to be 80 dollars IMO.
Posted by DevastaTTor on August 21st, 2009 @ 8:22pm CDT
Counterpunch wrote:I'm not arguing against debate here, nor do I think Bruticus is perfect; but what would you rather see these companies work on? Serious additions like the Rodimus upgrade? How about that pre-historic animal combiner?
Or would you rather see pricy, minor upgrades to figures that get along just fine with the addition of a small amount of imagination?
Your call.
Hard to argue with this logic. Neither of these figures deserve to be or need to be 80 dollars IMO.
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (979021)
Posted by skywarp-2 on August 21st, 2009 @ 9:37pm CDT
well here is the thing, fansproject is doing the Rodimus kit, and they are doing the combiners and such, but I never said i would want them to put aside what they are planning just to do an upgrade for Bruticus..
that said...
to do an upgrade for Superion and not one for the villain of the same class is kind of a let down.. when you think of your classics collection and you have that big Superion posed in the back ground with Henkei Prime and company gathered up in a fine pose, wouldn't it be just great to see a fully upgraded Bruticus in the back drop of your henkei/classics Decepticon collection? I know i would..
but here is the thing..if imagination was what we all needed to superseed a mold that has so much aesthetic errors, then we would still be getting G-1 type figures.. things have changed and functional and better looking transformers have been coming out all the time..
Would I buy Superion by itself before the FP kit came on the scene? Probably not..
same with Bruticus..
I don't begrudge anyone who loves these figures the way they are, but honestly.. a new gun, hands, feet, a sword, and a crotch/waist appendage for him would do wonders..maybe even a head attachment to fix that strange Vader like face..
that is just my view..
but classics Grimlock, Bruticus Maximus, G-1 Devastator (or classics), and maybe an Optimus Prime Apex armor 3rd party add on set would rock.. regardless of the mediocre intricacy..
besides.. no one can win on this argument.. we have those who say that 3rd parties should only stick to armor and upgrades, and then those who say that they don't care and want 3rd party figures..and those who say they only buy Hasbro and hate 3rd party stuff..it is almost like you are damned if you don't and damned if you do on taking a position in support or against of 3rd party products..
and now your damned if you don't and damned if you do if you support armor add-ons versus full figure projects..
it's insanity at work!! seriously!!
I still stand by my assessment..this figure could use an upgraded set of add-ons..weapons, hands, feet, waist/crotch, and maybe some extras like some missile launchers for the shoulder and such..but I'd love to have a comparable villain to pose against my super cool and way better styled Autobot combiner..
from this:
to this:
makes much more sense...
Bruticus Maximus needs new hands and feet..
Posted by skywarp-2 on August 21st, 2009 @ 9:37pm CDT
Counterpunch wrote:skywarp-2 wrote:I have to go with the latter.. sorry CP..
the clear straight fingers and two pronged toes are not appealing to me..
plus I think he needs some kind of add on to his waist area and crotch, because Bruticus Maximus Chest is too protruding, and needs some proportions adjustment..
See, that's exactly where all this is going.
3rd party add-ons are going to become a venue for everyone to do unnecessary cosmetic surgery to every figure around.
Energon Superion was seriously flawed. Energon Bruticus isn't perfect...but he doesn't need $50 of add-ons to fix.
Sure, everyone wishes that the combiners had solid plastic, 5 finger hands and blocky feet. Welcome to 4 years ago.
I'm not arguing against debate here, nor do I think Bruticus is perfect; but what would you rather see these companies work on? Serious additions like the Rodimus upgrade? How about that pre-historic animal combiner?
Or would you rather see pricy, minor upgrades to figures that get along just fine with the addition of a small amount of imagination?
Your call.
well here is the thing, fansproject is doing the Rodimus kit, and they are doing the combiners and such, but I never said i would want them to put aside what they are planning just to do an upgrade for Bruticus..
that said...
to do an upgrade for Superion and not one for the villain of the same class is kind of a let down.. when you think of your classics collection and you have that big Superion posed in the back ground with Henkei Prime and company gathered up in a fine pose, wouldn't it be just great to see a fully upgraded Bruticus in the back drop of your henkei/classics Decepticon collection? I know i would..
but here is the thing..if imagination was what we all needed to superseed a mold that has so much aesthetic errors, then we would still be getting G-1 type figures.. things have changed and functional and better looking transformers have been coming out all the time..
Would I buy Superion by itself before the FP kit came on the scene? Probably not..
same with Bruticus..
I don't begrudge anyone who loves these figures the way they are, but honestly.. a new gun, hands, feet, a sword, and a crotch/waist appendage for him would do wonders..maybe even a head attachment to fix that strange Vader like face..
that is just my view..
but classics Grimlock, Bruticus Maximus, G-1 Devastator (or classics), and maybe an Optimus Prime Apex armor 3rd party add on set would rock.. regardless of the mediocre intricacy..
besides.. no one can win on this argument.. we have those who say that 3rd parties should only stick to armor and upgrades, and then those who say that they don't care and want 3rd party figures..and those who say they only buy Hasbro and hate 3rd party stuff..it is almost like you are damned if you don't and damned if you do on taking a position in support or against of 3rd party products..
and now your damned if you don't and damned if you do if you support armor add-ons versus full figure projects..
it's insanity at work!! seriously!!
I still stand by my assessment..this figure could use an upgraded set of add-ons..weapons, hands, feet, waist/crotch, and maybe some extras like some missile launchers for the shoulder and such..but I'd love to have a comparable villain to pose against my super cool and way better styled Autobot combiner..
from this:
to this:
makes much more sense...
Bruticus Maximus needs new hands and feet..
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (979026)
Posted by tom brokaw on August 21st, 2009 @ 9:42pm CDT
Posted by tom brokaw on August 21st, 2009 @ 9:42pm CDT
went out to a couple of target today. no luck, but i did find a couple of superions 
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (979035)
Posted by Wolfman Jake on August 21st, 2009 @ 9:50pm CDT
Posted by Wolfman Jake on August 21st, 2009 @ 9:50pm CDT
I checked a few different Targets in my area today. No Bruticus sets yet, but all of the Superion sets seem to have sold through.
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (979045)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on August 21st, 2009 @ 10:03pm CDT
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on August 21st, 2009 @ 10:03pm CDT
Bruticus looks fine as-is to me. His limbs certainly aren't the joke Superion's are. Fansprojects isn't a proper TF company, so no part of me feels that they should do upgrade kits for every one of the Energon combiners. It might be nice if they released the hands seperately for those who want them.
I dunno if I want Bruticus like I wanted Superion. Maybe if / when he goes on sale. Like how I got Superion.
I dunno if I want Bruticus like I wanted Superion. Maybe if / when he goes on sale. Like how I got Superion.
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (979055)
Posted by tom brokaw on August 21st, 2009 @ 10:16pm CDT
you got superion on sale?
Posted by tom brokaw on August 21st, 2009 @ 10:16pm CDT
Gauntlet101010 wrote:Bruticus looks fine as-is to me. His limbs certainly aren't the joke Superion's are. Fansprojects isn't a proper TF company, so no part of me feels that they should do upgrade kits for every one of the Energon combiners. It might be nice if they released the hands seperately for those who want them.
I dunno if I want Bruticus like I wanted Superion. Maybe if / when he goes on sale. Like how I got Superion.
you got superion on sale?
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (979060)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on August 21st, 2009 @ 10:20pm CDT
Yeah, he's on sale at Zellars. It was $40 before taxes.
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on August 21st, 2009 @ 10:20pm CDT
tom brokaw wrote:Gauntlet101010 wrote:Bruticus looks fine as-is to me. His limbs certainly aren't the joke Superion's are. Fansprojects isn't a proper TF company, so no part of me feels that they should do upgrade kits for every one of the Energon combiners. It might be nice if they released the hands seperately for those who want them.
I dunno if I want Bruticus like I wanted Superion. Maybe if / when he goes on sale. Like how I got Superion.
you got superion on sale?
Yeah, he's on sale at Zellars. It was $40 before taxes.
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (979061)
Posted by tom brokaw on August 21st, 2009 @ 10:22pm CDT
ah i see
Posted by tom brokaw on August 21st, 2009 @ 10:22pm CDT
Gauntlet101010 wrote:tom brokaw wrote:Gauntlet101010 wrote:Bruticus looks fine as-is to me. His limbs certainly aren't the joke Superion's are. Fansprojects isn't a proper TF company, so no part of me feels that they should do upgrade kits for every one of the Energon combiners. It might be nice if they released the hands seperately for those who want them.
I dunno if I want Bruticus like I wanted Superion. Maybe if / when he goes on sale. Like how I got Superion.
you got superion on sale?
Yeah, he's on sale at Zellars. It was $40 before taxes.
ah i see
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (979078)
Posted by Convotron on August 21st, 2009 @ 10:39pm CDT
Exactly. 3rd party producers usually have a couple of projects on the go and they don't work in the realm of extremes where making a minor or a major add on kit excludes the production of another kit.
While I think Bruticus Maximus is more of a "total" figure than Superion Maximus and thus needing less "improvement", I wouldn't turn away a 3rd party add on if it was well made and cleverly designed. I'm happy to paint over the transparent hands/feet and find a gun for Bruticus M. but if an add on becomes available that is superior to my mediocre work, which is extremely likely, I'll definitely consider a purchase.
Even with the improvements in toy design, we still have individual customizers and 3rd party producers making improvements for existing toys.
I say collectors should support whoever they want to support because no one is being forced to buy one thing or another. Internet opinions be damned! I, for one, appreciate the access to 3rd party add ons. Maybe it's because I'm a newer collector and I'm not accustomed to the idea of 3rd party products in toys aside from knock off figures.
We, as collectors, are in a pretty darn good spot these days. The market is growing and we have a variety of 3rd party add ons to choose from to help increase our enjoyment of our collections.
Does Bruticus Maximus need or deserve and add on? Heck, does any existing Transformer need or deserve add ons? There are as many answers to those questions as there are people asking. It comes down to what the collector thinks.
Posted by Convotron on August 21st, 2009 @ 10:39pm CDT
skywarp-2 wrote:well here is the thing, fansproject is doing the Rodimus kit, and they are doing the combiners and such, but I never said i would want them to put aside what they are planning just to do an upgrade for Bruticus..
Exactly. 3rd party producers usually have a couple of projects on the go and they don't work in the realm of extremes where making a minor or a major add on kit excludes the production of another kit.
skywarp-2 wrote:that said...
to do an upgrade for Superion and not one for the villain of the same class is kind of a let down.. when you think of your classics collection and you have that big Superion posed in the back ground with Henkei Prime and company gathered up in a fine pose, wouldn't it be just great to see a fully upgraded Bruticus in the back drop of your henkei/classics Decepticon collection? I know i would..
While I think Bruticus Maximus is more of a "total" figure than Superion Maximus and thus needing less "improvement", I wouldn't turn away a 3rd party add on if it was well made and cleverly designed. I'm happy to paint over the transparent hands/feet and find a gun for Bruticus M. but if an add on becomes available that is superior to my mediocre work, which is extremely likely, I'll definitely consider a purchase.
skywarp-2 wrote:but here is the thing..if imagination was what we all needed to superseed a mold that has so much aesthetic errors, then we would still be getting G-1 type figures.. things have changed and functional and better looking transformers have been coming out all the time..
Even with the improvements in toy design, we still have individual customizers and 3rd party producers making improvements for existing toys.
skywarp-2 wrote:besides.. no one can win on this argument.. we have those who say that 3rd parties should only stick to armor and upgrades, and then those who say that they don't care and want 3rd party figures..and those who say they only buy Hasbro and hate 3rd party stuff..it is almost like you are damned if you don't and damned if you do on taking a position in support or against of 3rd party products..
and now your damned if you don't and damned if you do if you support armor add-ons versus full figure projects..
it's insanity at work!! seriously!!
I say collectors should support whoever they want to support because no one is being forced to buy one thing or another. Internet opinions be damned! I, for one, appreciate the access to 3rd party add ons. Maybe it's because I'm a newer collector and I'm not accustomed to the idea of 3rd party products in toys aside from knock off figures.
We, as collectors, are in a pretty darn good spot these days. The market is growing and we have a variety of 3rd party add ons to choose from to help increase our enjoyment of our collections.
Does Bruticus Maximus need or deserve and add on? Heck, does any existing Transformer need or deserve add ons? There are as many answers to those questions as there are people asking. It comes down to what the collector thinks.
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (979089)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on August 21st, 2009 @ 10:53pm CDT
Sure. "Needs" is a debatable word, but I'll say TFs like Classics Magnus, MP Prime, Starscream, and Megs all deserve their add-ons.
The Energon combiners as a whole, though? I'd have to actually see the end product to say whether it "needs" it. Deserves? IMHO they deserve it a shade less than the leaders (like Prime and Magnus) and the MPs.
The biggest improvement on Superion was the addition of elbows. I dunno if Bruticus' mold could even support that. If there's ever an add-on for him, I'd really need a good look before deciding. And it'd help if he was on sale too.
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on August 21st, 2009 @ 10:53pm CDT
Heck, does any existing Transformer need or deserve add ons?
Sure. "Needs" is a debatable word, but I'll say TFs like Classics Magnus, MP Prime, Starscream, and Megs all deserve their add-ons.
The Energon combiners as a whole, though? I'd have to actually see the end product to say whether it "needs" it. Deserves? IMHO they deserve it a shade less than the leaders (like Prime and Magnus) and the MPs.
The biggest improvement on Superion was the addition of elbows. I dunno if Bruticus' mold could even support that. If there's ever an add-on for him, I'd really need a good look before deciding. And it'd help if he was on sale too.
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (979092)
Posted by fenrir72 on August 21st, 2009 @ 10:55pm CDT
Posted by fenrir72 on August 21st, 2009 @ 10:55pm CDT
That's why its called a third party company. The only proper TF company is either Hasbro/Takara/Tomy or any one else willing to pay the royalties.
Or haven't anyone noticed that them shelf warmers before the upgrades are now selling like hotcakes!
how I miss not getting the CJ kit.
Or haven't anyone noticed that them shelf warmers before the upgrades are now selling like hotcakes!
how I miss not getting the CJ kit.
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (979107)
Posted by tom brokaw on August 21st, 2009 @ 11:12pm CDT
how much is the cliffjumper kit going nowadays?
Posted by tom brokaw on August 21st, 2009 @ 11:12pm CDT
fenrir72 wrote:....
how much is the cliffjumper kit going nowadays?
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (979120)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on August 21st, 2009 @ 11:19pm CDT
There's one on ebay going for over $90.
Too damned much, IMO. It's just not enough.
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on August 21st, 2009 @ 11:19pm CDT
tom brokaw wrote:fenrir72 wrote:....
how much is the cliffjumper kit going nowadays?
There's one on ebay going for over $90.
Too damned much, IMO. It's just not enough.
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (979152)
Posted by tom brokaw on August 22nd, 2009 @ 12:02am CDT
yea, i remember when it was first announced, then i stopped collecting. so when it was released i wasnt interested. but now that im back in the game, i want it
Posted by tom brokaw on August 22nd, 2009 @ 12:02am CDT
Gauntlet101010 wrote:tom brokaw wrote:fenrir72 wrote:....
how much is the cliffjumper kit going nowadays?
There's one on ebay going for over $90.
Too damned much, IMO. It's just not enough.
yea, i remember when it was first announced, then i stopped collecting. so when it was released i wasnt interested. but now that im back in the game, i want it
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (979155)
Posted by Convotron on August 22nd, 2009 @ 12:04am CDT
Well my point is that everyone has their own opinion and yet, as skywarp-2 pointed out, there's a "damned if you do and damned if you don't" sentiment with support of one type of add on over another.
I've come to the conclusion that it really comes down to what people want. Do you want to have a 3rd party upgrade for your Transformer? Are you willing to pay the price it's going for? Then go for it. It's as simple as that.
Talk of need or deserve is an activity doomed to failure as when it's really about what people are willing to buy. The fact that people purchase things like the City Commander kit for roughly $90(I think, I may be mistaken as I wasn't really paying attention to the TF toy scene at the time) when it first came out and up to about $200 on the aftermarket determines, on however a limited scale due to limited production, actual desire for an add on within the collector's market. The same goes for the Aerial Team Appendage kit. People are buying it at $45, myself included, and it'll probably sell out in the near future. I wager that if a well designed add on for Bruticus M. were designed, collectors would buy it.
However, I'm not against discussion of personal views of the pros and cons of add ons. I'd love to read more about what people think of things when they offer a glimpse into their reasoning process. I'd rather read someone's points on why something succeeds or fails as a toy product than a simple "This sucks.", "This is great!", or "I'll pass.". No offense to anyone who has previously posted such comments, I can appreciate getting to the heart of the matter. There's no need for long winded posts like mine, hehe.
Edit:
Yeah, I'm not sure how much more you can improve articulation on Bruticus M.'s arms/elbows but having articulated hands or even "claws" would be cool. I'd definitely go for a well sculpted cannon for Bruticus M.
Posted by Convotron on August 22nd, 2009 @ 12:04am CDT
Gauntlet101010 wrote:Heck, does any existing Transformer need or deserve add ons?
Sure. "Needs" is a debatable word, but I'll say TFs like Classics Magnus, MP Prime, Starscream, and Megs all deserve their add-ons.
The Energon combiners as a whole, though? I'd have to actually see the end product to say whether it "needs" it. Deserves? IMHO they deserve it a shade less than the leaders (like Prime and Magnus) and the MPs.
Well my point is that everyone has their own opinion and yet, as skywarp-2 pointed out, there's a "damned if you do and damned if you don't" sentiment with support of one type of add on over another.
I've come to the conclusion that it really comes down to what people want. Do you want to have a 3rd party upgrade for your Transformer? Are you willing to pay the price it's going for? Then go for it. It's as simple as that.
Talk of need or deserve is an activity doomed to failure as when it's really about what people are willing to buy. The fact that people purchase things like the City Commander kit for roughly $90(I think, I may be mistaken as I wasn't really paying attention to the TF toy scene at the time) when it first came out and up to about $200 on the aftermarket determines, on however a limited scale due to limited production, actual desire for an add on within the collector's market. The same goes for the Aerial Team Appendage kit. People are buying it at $45, myself included, and it'll probably sell out in the near future. I wager that if a well designed add on for Bruticus M. were designed, collectors would buy it.
However, I'm not against discussion of personal views of the pros and cons of add ons. I'd love to read more about what people think of things when they offer a glimpse into their reasoning process. I'd rather read someone's points on why something succeeds or fails as a toy product than a simple "This sucks.", "This is great!", or "I'll pass.". No offense to anyone who has previously posted such comments, I can appreciate getting to the heart of the matter. There's no need for long winded posts like mine, hehe.
Edit:
Gauntlet101010 wrote:The biggest improvement on Superion was the addition of elbows. I dunno if Bruticus' mold could even support that. If there's ever an add-on for him, I'd really need a good look before deciding. And it'd help if he was on sale too.
Yeah, I'm not sure how much more you can improve articulation on Bruticus M.'s arms/elbows but having articulated hands or even "claws" would be cool. I'd definitely go for a well sculpted cannon for Bruticus M.
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (979170)
Posted by skywarp-2 on August 22nd, 2009 @ 12:49am CDT
agreed...
IMHO, a Bruticus maximus kit could do well, but it would be more then just hands, much in the same way that Ultra Magnus (city commander) got a crotch/waist add on.. the Bruticus needs one too.. that huge protruding chest just makes him look like he has boobs under a shirt.. it's not very tough like.. the bog clear static fingers and such.. blech..
they could do a shoulder pivot addition that raises the upper arms and then adds in an elbow and hands for the lower arm..thus making him look tougher and more menacing and giving him maneuverability.. unfortunately i think in order to make this a fair plea for agreement, I am going to have to digibash the scenario I am talking about.. which will take some time..
CP talks about having imagination, yet no one wishes to exercise theirs on potential ideas anymore.. it is all about what can be seen..
Here is a quick Digibash:
it is not much of a digibash, just some ideas on how it might look or could be done..maybe an attachment that hugs the tank and helicopter to add the arms on, and another attachment that extends the shoulders upwards to make the arms work with the forearm attachments..they would have to snap on to the tank and Helicopter shoulders in order for his elbows to work properly.. and maybe a little added kibble to plug into the left image leg to bulk it out to fit the right image leg.. and a helmet or head attachment that snaps on the original and looks more like the G-1 version..it would have slits to allow the head wings to protrude through slightly.. and a chest piece that mirrors the G-1 version some what as well..either way I think it would help..
Posted by skywarp-2 on August 22nd, 2009 @ 12:49am CDT
Gauntlet101010 wrote:tom brokaw wrote:fenrir72 wrote:....
how much is the cliffjumper kit going nowadays?
There's one on ebay going for over $90.
Too damned much, IMO. It's just not enough.
agreed...
IMHO, a Bruticus maximus kit could do well, but it would be more then just hands, much in the same way that Ultra Magnus (city commander) got a crotch/waist add on.. the Bruticus needs one too.. that huge protruding chest just makes him look like he has boobs under a shirt.. it's not very tough like.. the bog clear static fingers and such.. blech..
they could do a shoulder pivot addition that raises the upper arms and then adds in an elbow and hands for the lower arm..thus making him look tougher and more menacing and giving him maneuverability.. unfortunately i think in order to make this a fair plea for agreement, I am going to have to digibash the scenario I am talking about.. which will take some time..
CP talks about having imagination, yet no one wishes to exercise theirs on potential ideas anymore.. it is all about what can be seen..
Here is a quick Digibash:
it is not much of a digibash, just some ideas on how it might look or could be done..maybe an attachment that hugs the tank and helicopter to add the arms on, and another attachment that extends the shoulders upwards to make the arms work with the forearm attachments..they would have to snap on to the tank and Helicopter shoulders in order for his elbows to work properly.. and maybe a little added kibble to plug into the left image leg to bulk it out to fit the right image leg.. and a helmet or head attachment that snaps on the original and looks more like the G-1 version..it would have slits to allow the head wings to protrude through slightly.. and a chest piece that mirrors the G-1 version some what as well..either way I think it would help..
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (979190)
Posted by Convotron on August 22nd, 2009 @ 1:26am CDT
Posted by Convotron on August 22nd, 2009 @ 1:26am CDT
The chest piece, higher shoulders, and feet, really evoke G1 Bruticus.
Hmm, the hands/forearms could be a bit bigger. If I were designing an add on, I'd venture in a slightly different direction. I say give Bruticus one hand/forearm and one "cannon appendage" add on to put on either of the tank limbs. It could fit over the front of the tank and serve as a weapon in place of a hand. I know it's not like the original Bruticus but if I were to pose an upgraded Bruticus M. with an upgraded Superion M., I'd like to have something different than both wielding a rifle of some sort.
Edit: Question
Does anyone know where the Energon parts on the side of Barricade/Onslaught comes from in these pictures?
Hmm, the hands/forearms could be a bit bigger. If I were designing an add on, I'd venture in a slightly different direction. I say give Bruticus one hand/forearm and one "cannon appendage" add on to put on either of the tank limbs. It could fit over the front of the tank and serve as a weapon in place of a hand. I know it's not like the original Bruticus but if I were to pose an upgraded Bruticus M. with an upgraded Superion M., I'd like to have something different than both wielding a rifle of some sort.
Edit: Question
Does anyone know where the Energon parts on the side of Barricade/Onslaught comes from in these pictures?
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (979197)
Posted by ShGarland_1383 on August 22nd, 2009 @ 2:22am CDT
Energon Skyblast and some repaint thereof, I think.
Posted by ShGarland_1383 on August 22nd, 2009 @ 2:22am CDT
Convotron wrote:Does anyone know where the Energon parts on the side of Barricade/Onslaught comes from in these pictures?
Energon Skyblast and some repaint thereof, I think.
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (979212)
Posted by fenrir72 on August 22nd, 2009 @ 4:48am CDT
Posted by fenrir72 on August 22nd, 2009 @ 4:48am CDT
Hey skywarp-2 , you treat tfs subjects like a thesis defense hehehe( no offense) and congratulations on your 4000+ posts . But I do agree with the notion that some improvements could be applied to the gestahlt molds(Bruticus Maximus in particular 'cause Superion is a done deal..........a very well done deal.)
Again, I am not sure how the Bruticus helmet fits (is it like a mask like the G1 version?) but it has to go, the Cylon design really looks dorky. A groin guard, and maybe additional arm canons like that of Superion. And the appendages too, maybe this time honest to goodness hands and feet and an updated Bruticus G1 style rifle too.
As for the energon lance like thingie, my Superlink Skyblast had one of those.
and congratulations on your 4000+ posts . But I do agree with the notion that some improvements could be applied to the gestahlt molds(Bruticus Maximus in particular 'cause Superion is a done deal..........a very well done deal.)Again, I am not sure how the Bruticus helmet fits (is it like a mask like the G1 version?) but it has to go, the Cylon design really looks dorky. A groin guard, and maybe additional arm canons like that of Superion. And the appendages too, maybe this time honest to goodness hands and feet and an updated Bruticus G1 style rifle too.
As for the energon lance like thingie, my Superlink Skyblast had one of those.
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (979219)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on August 22nd, 2009 @ 6:09am CDT
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on August 22nd, 2009 @ 6:09am CDT
I dunno, that digibash is very much a quick edit job. It looks nice enough at first glance, but the arms don't convince me ... too obviously just Superion's arms grafted on Bruticus. The feet as well; not saying feet couldn't work, but it wouldn't work like that. The toys just don't physically work that way. You even have the Aerialbot's legs in there.
Also, these peices would have to work with the individual robots. Having a bunch of combiner parts just lying around is very G1, but .... it's not something particularily strong about G1. Especially your "hugging around" idea; I don't see how that'd combine in any other mode.
Not saying Bruticus attachments can't be done, but ... I'd ned to see a sculpt (or at least a detailed sketch) before climbing on board the idea. And, even then, I'm on the fence. The price for these add-ons is quite steep. I always have to extencively debate it with myself before I buy any of them. And I don't always find it worth it (Powered Commander upgrade set being on that list).
Also, these peices would have to work with the individual robots. Having a bunch of combiner parts just lying around is very G1, but .... it's not something particularily strong about G1. Especially your "hugging around" idea; I don't see how that'd combine in any other mode.
Not saying Bruticus attachments can't be done, but ... I'd ned to see a sculpt (or at least a detailed sketch) before climbing on board the idea. And, even then, I'm on the fence. The price for these add-ons is quite steep. I always have to extencively debate it with myself before I buy any of them. And I don't always find it worth it (Powered Commander upgrade set being on that list).
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (979251)
Posted by Convotron on August 22nd, 2009 @ 8:32am CDT
Excellent, thank you very much!
I definitely agree. Until I get a hold of Bruticus M., I can only guess at how an upgrade set could work with the combined form. It would be very nice if an add on set could work like Superion's and be parts that could be used in separate alt and robot modes. Parts could transform into artillery packs and such.
At this time, I plan on getting the RotF Bruticus M. set, whenever it arrives in local stores, but I've got some ideas for minor customizing. I'd like to paint over the transparent weapon/appendage parts, which I don't mind unlike Superion's transparent parts. I'm also going to see if I can find my own weapons for it. I have a TFA Leader Megatron whose rotor swords may work okay with Bruticus M.
Posted by Convotron on August 22nd, 2009 @ 8:32am CDT
ShGarland_1383 wrote:Convotron wrote:Does anyone know where the Energon parts on the side of Barricade/Onslaught comes from in these pictures?
Energon Skyblast and some repaint thereof, I think.
Excellent, thank you very much!
Gauntlet101010 wrote:I dunno, that digibash is very much a quick edit job. It looks nice enough at first glance, but the arms don't convince me ... too obviously just Superion's arms grafted on Bruticus. The feet as well; not saying feet couldn't work, but it wouldn't work like that. The toys just don't physically work that way. You even have the Aerialbot's legs in there.
Also, these peices would have to work with the individual robots. Having a bunch of combiner parts just lying around is very G1, but .... it's not something particularily strong about G1. Especially your "hugging around" idea; I don't see how that'd combine in any other mode.
Not saying Bruticus attachments can't be done, but ... I'd ned to see a sculpt (or at least a detailed sketch) before climbing on board the idea. And, even then, I'm on the fence. The price for these add-ons is quite steep. I always have to extencively debate it with myself before I buy any of them. And I don't always find it worth it (Powered Commander upgrade set being on that list).
I definitely agree. Until I get a hold of Bruticus M., I can only guess at how an upgrade set could work with the combined form. It would be very nice if an add on set could work like Superion's and be parts that could be used in separate alt and robot modes. Parts could transform into artillery packs and such.
At this time, I plan on getting the RotF Bruticus M. set, whenever it arrives in local stores, but I've got some ideas for minor customizing. I'd like to paint over the transparent weapon/appendage parts, which I don't mind unlike Superion's transparent parts. I'm also going to see if I can find my own weapons for it. I have a TFA Leader Megatron whose rotor swords may work okay with Bruticus M.
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (979258)
Posted by Razorclaw0000 on August 22nd, 2009 @ 8:45am CDT
They are actually the Alpha and Omega Spears given out at, I think, OTFCC 2004. You had to complete a multi page survey from Hasbro.
See more here
Posted by Razorclaw0000 on August 22nd, 2009 @ 8:45am CDT
Convotron wrote:ShGarland_1383 wrote:Convotron wrote:Does anyone know where the Energon parts on the side of Barricade/Onslaught comes from in these pictures?
Energon Skyblast and some repaint thereof, I think.
Excellent, thank you very much!
They are actually the Alpha and Omega Spears given out at, I think, OTFCC 2004. You had to complete a multi page survey from Hasbro.
See more here
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (979262)
Posted by skywarp-2 on August 22nd, 2009 @ 9:21am CDT
yeah i am kinda in depth on trying to convince someone my point of view.. but that is the nature of being a fan.. enjoyment in the subject to the highest degree..LOL
thanks for the congrats on the 4000+ posts, I really didn't even notice I passed the milestone.. LOL.. the Bruticus Helmet would be like a snap tight thing, it would be two halves and snap together over the existing head..one piece would fit over the face, the other over the back. I agree the cylon look is too funky..the mock up was just to illustrate the point that if done by a 3rd party, they would have to be creative because of the way his arms are structured.. as it stands Bruticus Maximus doesn't have elbows or even a shoulder to speak of, which is kinda crappy..
to others points on this.. why make an add on for an energon combiner?? well, it is the base foundation that is solid in these combiners.. not the energon figure itself.. take for example the superion, had there been a better candidate for upgrades they would have done one for the g-1 combiner figures.. but the energon figure had a great basis to work with..I think Bruticus Maximus has a great bas to work with.. now figuring out how the combiner parts would add to the figures in vehicle and individual robot mode is a trick.. but I'm no toy designer.. that is why I just did a quick digibash, was to just show that some minor things could make him look better..
actually I just added an aerialbot canister to the pegs on the side of the helicopter body..and you are right it is a quick mash up.. but I don't have the parts to use because they don't exist.. I used what I had at my disposal just to get the idea accross.. not saying they should use Superion appendages for the job, if the upgrade were to become a reality..
I don't either, that would be left up to the engineers.. it was just an idea.. as to how it could work in individual robot modes or Altmodes.. I don't know.. I didn't think it through that far.. I was just trying to show that any changes added to the figure would greatly improve his look.. and his look is by far crappy as is.. in my humble opinion..
Imagination.. counterpunch says we all need it..
In all due respect Powered commander is way more expensive.. as for my Superion Upgrade set I paid 35.00/43.00 shipped.. that's not so bad to take a mediocre figure I would not normally buy and add a strikingly awesome one to my classics/Henkei collection.. I've paid more for worse figures..
Bottom line in my view.. this toy needs some changes.. and if waiting for a new better Bruticus Maximus were my other option I would choose the upgrades..because with How Hasbro and Takara are about getting combiners right, is like taking a gun putting it to your head and hoping the roulette game is not going to be over in two clicks..
It's never a safe bet.
Posted by skywarp-2 on August 22nd, 2009 @ 9:21am CDT
fenrir72 wrote:Hey skywarp-2 , you treat tfs subjects like a thesis defense hehehe( no offense)
Again, I am not sure how the Bruticus helmet fits (is it like a mask like the G1 version?) but it has to go, the Cylon design really looks dorky. A groin guard, and maybe additional arm canons like that of Superion. And the appendages too, maybe this time honest to goodness hands and feet and an updated Bruticus G1 style rifle too.
As for the energon lance like thingie, my Superlink Skyblast had one of those.
yeah i am kinda in depth on trying to convince someone my point of view.. but that is the nature of being a fan.. enjoyment in the subject to the highest degree..LOL
thanks for the congrats on the 4000+ posts, I really didn't even notice I passed the milestone.. LOL.. the Bruticus Helmet would be like a snap tight thing, it would be two halves and snap together over the existing head..one piece would fit over the face, the other over the back. I agree the cylon look is too funky..the mock up was just to illustrate the point that if done by a 3rd party, they would have to be creative because of the way his arms are structured.. as it stands Bruticus Maximus doesn't have elbows or even a shoulder to speak of, which is kinda crappy..
to others points on this.. why make an add on for an energon combiner?? well, it is the base foundation that is solid in these combiners.. not the energon figure itself.. take for example the superion, had there been a better candidate for upgrades they would have done one for the g-1 combiner figures.. but the energon figure had a great basis to work with..I think Bruticus Maximus has a great bas to work with.. now figuring out how the combiner parts would add to the figures in vehicle and individual robot mode is a trick.. but I'm no toy designer.. that is why I just did a quick digibash, was to just show that some minor things could make him look better..
Gauntlet101010 wrote:I dunno, that digibash is very much a quick edit job. It looks nice enough at first glance, but the arms don't convince me ... too obviously just Superion's arms grafted on Bruticus. The feet as well; not saying feet couldn't work, but it wouldn't work like that. The toys just don't physically work that way. You even have the Aerialbot's legs in there.
actually I just added an aerialbot canister to the pegs on the side of the helicopter body..and you are right it is a quick mash up.. but I don't have the parts to use because they don't exist.. I used what I had at my disposal just to get the idea accross.. not saying they should use Superion appendages for the job, if the upgrade were to become a reality..
Gauntlet101010 wrote:Also, these peices would have to work with the individual robots. Having a bunch of combiner parts just lying around is very G1, but .... it's not something particularily strong about G1. Especially your "hugging around" idea; I don't see how that'd combine in any other mode.
I don't either, that would be left up to the engineers.. it was just an idea.. as to how it could work in individual robot modes or Altmodes.. I don't know.. I didn't think it through that far.. I was just trying to show that any changes added to the figure would greatly improve his look.. and his look is by far crappy as is.. in my humble opinion..
Gauntlet101010 wrote:Not saying Bruticus attachments can't be done, but ... I'd need to see a sculpt (or at least a detailed sketch) before climbing on board the idea.
Imagination.. counterpunch says we all need it..
Gauntlet101010 wrote: And, even then, I'm on the fence. The price for these add-ons is quite steep. I always have to extensively debate it with myself before I buy any of them. And I don't always find it worth it (Powered Commander upgrade set being on that list).
In all due respect Powered commander is way more expensive.. as for my Superion Upgrade set I paid 35.00/43.00 shipped.. that's not so bad to take a mediocre figure I would not normally buy and add a strikingly awesome one to my classics/Henkei collection.. I've paid more for worse figures..
Bottom line in my view.. this toy needs some changes.. and if waiting for a new better Bruticus Maximus were my other option I would choose the upgrades..because with How Hasbro and Takara are about getting combiners right, is like taking a gun putting it to your head and hoping the roulette game is not going to be over in two clicks..
It's never a safe bet.
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (979277)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on August 22nd, 2009 @ 10:05am CDT
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on August 22nd, 2009 @ 10:05am CDT
The Superion set is pretty expencive for what it is as well. It's definately for the hardcore collector. Let's not fool ourselves .... the price for the set is over the price of the toy itself and that's a red flag. If people aren't debating with themselves over whether it's worth it .... that's just being careless in my book.
The feet and chest of your digibash are fine ... the head I can't see being done. But the arms are just too much for me to believe. I suppose it's "possible" that they might be able to make the arms work like you have them (higher and with, maybe, a totally seperate lower arm peice), but I dunno. I am not convinced it's be worth doing. It's have to be more than just seperate addons for me to be convinced.
Bruticus looks fine to me as he is. It's not very G1, but ... not everything has to be. It is what it is.
The feet and chest of your digibash are fine ... the head I can't see being done. But the arms are just too much for me to believe. I suppose it's "possible" that they might be able to make the arms work like you have them (higher and with, maybe, a totally seperate lower arm peice), but I dunno. I am not convinced it's be worth doing. It's have to be more than just seperate addons for me to be convinced.
Bruticus looks fine to me as he is. It's not very G1, but ... not everything has to be. It is what it is.
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (979292)
Posted by Convotron on August 22nd, 2009 @ 10:45am CDT
Very cool, thanks for the link!
Posted by Convotron on August 22nd, 2009 @ 10:45am CDT
Razorclaw0000 wrote:Convotron wrote:ShGarland_1383 wrote:Convotron wrote:Does anyone know where the Energon parts on the side of Barricade/Onslaught comes from in these pictures?
Energon Skyblast and some repaint thereof, I think.
Excellent, thank you very much!
They are actually the Alpha and Omega Spears given out at, I think, OTFCC 2004. You had to complete a multi page survey from Hasbro.
See more here
Very cool, thanks for the link!
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (979396)
Posted by Razorclaw0000 on August 22nd, 2009 @ 1:55pm CDT
You're welcome!
They're pretty awesome looking. The Alpha spear (blue) looks fantastic on the original Concept Bumblebee as the color is *identical* to his hidden blade.
Posted by Razorclaw0000 on August 22nd, 2009 @ 1:55pm CDT
Convotron wrote:Very cool, thanks for the link!
You're welcome!
They're pretty awesome looking. The Alpha spear (blue) looks fantastic on the original Concept Bumblebee as the color is *identical* to his hidden blade.
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (979755)
Posted by metal-lifter on August 22nd, 2009 @ 9:41pm CDT
Posted by metal-lifter on August 22nd, 2009 @ 9:41pm CDT
Like everyone else I'm not a big fan of the hands and feet. But I'm a really big fan of combiners so I will definitely shell out the money for Bruticus. Once I get him I'm going to have to save for the Encore Re-issue of Bruticus who looks f*ing awesome!
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (979767)
Posted by metal-lifter on August 22nd, 2009 @ 9:53pm CDT
Posted by metal-lifter on August 22nd, 2009 @ 9:53pm CDT
I know this a little off subject but does the Superion add on kit fit on the ROTF version?
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (979849)
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on August 22nd, 2009 @ 11:47pm CDT
Posted by Gauntlet101010 on August 22nd, 2009 @ 11:47pm CDT
Of course it does. Color side, there's no difference between Energon and RotF Superion.
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (979941)
Posted by Counterpunch on August 23rd, 2009 @ 7:08am CDT
Not true.
The jets were retooled to round off the nosecones, making them "safer".
Posted by Counterpunch on August 23rd, 2009 @ 7:08am CDT
Gauntlet101010 wrote:Of course it does. Color side, there's no difference between Energon and RotF Superion.
Not true.
The jets were retooled to round off the nosecones, making them "safer".
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (979966)
Posted by Stockade on August 23rd, 2009 @ 8:26am CDT
Posted by Stockade on August 23rd, 2009 @ 8:26am CDT
I found out from a friend of mine, that he stopped by target and they said that Sept 11 or 12 will be the release date for Bruticus! has anyone else heard of this??
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (985571)
Posted by Razorclaw0000 on August 29th, 2009 @ 12:30pm CDT
Posted by Razorclaw0000 on August 29th, 2009 @ 12:30pm CDT
I stopped at one of the self service price scanners with keypad, keyed in the DPCI (087-06-0146), discovered they were in stock in the back room, and asked a lovely young lady with a PDT (the scanner/gun thingy) for help. She checked on the gun, asked me to wait, and came back with a perfectly case fresh Bruticus.
It is a gorgeous set. I love Barricade/Onslaught's coloration, and I love the orange energon weapons, especially on the tanks.
It is a gorgeous set. I love Barricade/Onslaught's coloration, and I love the orange energon weapons, especially on the tanks.
Re: Another Confirmed ROTF Bruticus Maximus (Target) Sighting (985579)
Posted by tom brokaw on August 29th, 2009 @ 12:39pm CDT
i did this too, except i got superion
Posted by tom brokaw on August 29th, 2009 @ 12:39pm CDT
Razorclaw0000 wrote:I stopped at one of the self service price scanners with keypad, keyed in the DPCI (087-06-0146), discovered they were in stock in the back room, and asked a lovely young lady with a PDT (the scanner/gun thingy) for help. She checked on the gun, asked me to wait, and came back with a perfectly case fresh Bruticus....
i did this too, except i got superion
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