Should have been obvious because of how it was positioned and such... Guess I'm so hyped to see more images of the headmaster unit that I just hoped it was real 
TF-fan kev777 wrote:william-james88 wrote:Transformers is the brand name, not a necessary gimmick.
Agreed, Hasbro owns the brand and can put whatever type of toy within the retail lines that they want. However, for my collection, no thanks. If it doesn't transform then it doesn't get bought.
I believe that is the sentiment being expressed by most others who are questioning what a non-transforming toy is doing in the main line.
william-james88 wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:william-james88 wrote:Transformers is the brand name, not a necessary gimmick.
Agreed, Hasbro owns the brand and can put whatever type of toy within the retail lines that they want. However, for my collection, no thanks. If it doesn't transform then it doesn't get bought.
I believe that is the sentiment being expressed by most others who are questioning what a non-transforming toy is doing in the main line.
I get that, and I agree that I want my transformers figures to transform. But what about characters that never transformed? Like the Fallen in ROTF? I never understood why having a crap lazy shoehorned alt mode made things better. The entire defense people are saying over in the Studio Series thread for Shockwave's lump of sharp metal alt mode is that he doesn't transform in the movie anyway so the alt mode doesnt matter, what matters is his awesome looking bot mode. And we are seeing the reverse here, like no matter how great it is to finally get a quintessons figure for our collections, if it doesnt transform into anything, then it can go **** off. I especially don't get it for quintessons, characters that (in some fiction) created the idea of Transformers. Meanwhile, since 2011, fans have been spending lots of money on non transforming 3rd party quints.
william-james88 wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:william-james88 wrote:Transformers is the brand name, not a necessary gimmick.
Agreed, Hasbro owns the brand and can put whatever type of toy within the retail lines that they want. However, for my collection, no thanks. If it doesn't transform then it doesn't get bought.
I believe that is the sentiment being expressed by most others who are questioning what a non-transforming toy is doing in the main line.
I get that, and I agree that I want my transformers figures to transform. But what about characters that never transformed? Like the Fallen in ROTF? I never understood why having a crap lazy shoehorned alt mode made things better. The entire defense people are saying over in the Studio Series thread for Shockwave's lump of sharp metal alt mode is that he doesn't transform in the movie anyway so the alt mode doesnt matter, what matters is his awesome looking bot mode. And we are seeing the reverse here, like no matter how great it is to finally get a quintessons figure for our collections, if it doesnt transform into anything, then it can go **** off. I especially don't get it for quintessons, characters that (in some fiction) created the idea of Transformers. Meanwhile, since 2011, fans have been spending lots of money on non transforming 3rd party quints.
TF-fan kev777 wrote:I think we are looking at 2 different things though. For the movies, the Fallen and Shockwave were transformers which means they had some type of transformation to an alt mode, it just wasn't shown on screen. So it existed, but we just didn't know anything about it. By that measure, forcing some type of alt mode would be necessary to fit in with the toy line. A crappy alt mode can be forgiven there because the movie didn't bother including one.
With the quintessons, they are not transformers, so not having an alt mode makes sense, and would be cartoon accurate, which is what the WFC trilogy is going for. Again, I have no problem with this, is just isn't for me. So if they do include some non-transforming characters in the line, I'll be skipping them, and my wallet says thanks for the little break.
Now, if it does come out that they do have some type of transformation and look like fun toys, then maybe I get interested enough to make a decision once I see them in hand.
william-james88 wrote:TF-fan kev777 wrote:william-james88 wrote:Transformers is the brand name, not a necessary gimmick.
Agreed, Hasbro owns the brand and can put whatever type of toy within the retail lines that they want. However, for my collection, no thanks. If it doesn't transform then it doesn't get bought.
I believe that is the sentiment being expressed by most others who are questioning what a non-transforming toy is doing in the main line.
I get that, and I agree that I want my transformers figures to transform. But what about characters that never transformed? Like the Fallen in ROTF? I never understood why having a crap lazy shoehorned alt mode made things better. The entire defense people are saying over in the Studio Series thread for Shockwave's lump of sharp metal alt mode is that he doesn't transform in the movie anyway so the alt mode doesnt matter, what matters is his awesome looking bot mode. And we are seeing the reverse here, like no matter how great it is to finally get a quintessons figure for our collections, I am seeing "if it doesnt transform into anything, then it can go **** off" type comments by saying they wont support it. I especially don't get it for quintessons, characters that (in some fiction) created the idea of Transformers. Meanwhile, since 2011, fans have been spending lots of money on non transforming 3rd party quints.
AcademyofDrX wrote:I do seriously want an Allicon though. There are so many beast-formers, so it would be unusual to introduce those guys in a line that, to date, has been all about human vehicles.
Ultra Markus wrote:I liked that head design better anyway
But I wonder if they would do the Japanese style
Later in a stand a lone figure for selects
That way you can just swap heads if you so choose
AcademyofDrX wrote:IF Hasbro decided to release a Quintessons figure, especially in a Generations line, I would expect rotating faces at a minimum. But it seems highly coincidental to me that immediately after a "leak," suddenly multiple people come forward to say, wouldn't you know it, I've actually already seen that toy, I just didn't think to mention it until after someone else "confirmed" it.
Bingo.william-james88 wrote:AcademyofDrX wrote:IF Hasbro decided to release a Quintessons figure, especially in a Generations line, I would expect rotating faces at a minimum. But it seems highly coincidental to me that immediately after a "leak," suddenly multiple people come forward to say, wouldn't you know it, I've actually already seen that toy, I just didn't think to mention it until after someone else "confirmed" it.
I see it as the inverse of that. People cannot say anything about what they have seen but now that hasbro themselves have leaked it by mistake, they can share what they know. What I find interesting is the various interpretations.
ZeroWolf wrote:I'd rather they didn't to be fair, I'll be steering clear of the quints themselves as they hold no interest to me whatsoever, and I'd say are taking a place that could be used for something better.
Wolfman Jake wrote:ZeroWolf wrote:I'd rather they didn't to be fair, I'll be steering clear of the quints themselves as they hold no interest to me whatsoever, and I'd say are taking a place that could be used for something better.
I don't know if that argument makes as much sense anymore. Generations Selects is really a game changer. So is the rise of online exclusives from Amazon over the past few years. Even Hasbro Pulse is getting into that by directly selling Takara's exclusive retools and repaints to North America. We've got a LOT of outlets as collectors for desired Transformers figures that don't make it to brick and mortar store shelves. We can't really say that whatever figure or character gets picked for the mass retail branch of a line forces out some other desired character altogether. They could just be moved to online distribution. Adult collectors should have no issue getting what they want, whether it be in store or online, and Hasbro has been great about giving us MORE of what we want than ever before the past few years.
