First Look at Blitzwing's Tank Mode in Transformers Legacy
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Comment by Sabrblade
Mar 21, 2022
He kinda looks vaguely like an H-tank from that angle.
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But he isn't. And that is indeed the nose cone at the front, making him look like the G1 sunbow model (though I think it's more of a necessity than a needed homage)
Comment by william-james88
Mar 21, 2022
Sabrblade wrote:He kinda looks vaguely like an H-tank from that angle.
But he isn't. And that is indeed the nose cone at the front, making him look like the G1 sunbow model (though I think it's more of a necessity than a needed homage)
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Comment by Albatross250
Mar 21, 2022
His tank mode looks familiar
He better have his Animated faces, and that would be instant buy!
He better have his Animated faces, and that would be instant buy!
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Comment by Sabrblade
Mar 21, 2022
william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:He kinda looks vaguely like an H-tank from that angle.
But he isn't. And that is indeed the nose cone at the front, making him look like the G1 sunbow model (though I think it's more of a necessity than a needed homage)
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Comment by Nemesis Destron
Mar 21, 2022
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Comment by Sowndwave76
Mar 21, 2022
I am so excited for this figure!!!!
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Comment by Rodimus Prime
Mar 21, 2022
That would be great! This looks like a sure buy as it is.Albatross250 wrote:His tank mode looks familiar
He better have his Animated faces, and that would be instant buy!
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Agreed. After TFA, I can only imagine that version's voice and mannerisms whenever I think about Blitzwing. He was pretty bland and anonymous in the G1 cartoon. But TFA made him a sour ball of personality!
Comment by DeathReviews
Mar 21, 2022
Albatross250 wrote:His tank mode looks familiar
He better have his Animated faces, and that would be instant buy!
Agreed. After TFA, I can only imagine that version's voice and mannerisms whenever I think about Blitzwing. He was pretty bland and anonymous in the G1 cartoon. But TFA made him a sour ball of personality!
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But in the year 2022, all sword-wielding toys are expected to be able to lift the swords like He-Man getting the power.
Well to some people size still has some meaning.
Comment by chuckdawg1999
Mar 21, 2022
Emerje wrote:Sabrblade wrote:It's the shoulders, not the arms. It's that the shoulders have been changed from being working shoulders part of the arms into armor kibble now separate from the arms, no longer a part of them, which alters the character's iconic silhouette and restricts arm movement now that big shoulder pads are in way of letting his arms raise up, instead of those shoulder pads being the shoulders themselves.Emerje wrote:Isn't saying the arms are fixed in place because you have to move little panels out of the way to move them the same as saying a lot of figures have fixed legs because you have to move a skirt panel and still can't quite get them to sit? Seems like a weird complaint. Sure he can't pick his arms up over his head, but they aren't fixed.
Emerje
But that's just it, it's shoulder armor, not his actual shoulders. He has articulation at the shoulder, it's just a little restricted by the armor. The shoulder armor is fixed, his shoulders aren't, they're restricted to probably 180 degrees which is fine. Doesn't really bother me much, my Transformers don't spend a lot of time trying to ask the teacher a question or flying like Superman.
Emerje
But in the year 2022, all sword-wielding toys are expected to be able to lift the swords like He-Man getting the power.
-Kanrabat- wrote:Emerje wrote:I don't really see why Deathsaurus would need to be Commander class, he doesn't need to be that complex. Hasbro said Star Saber was Leader size so a large leader like Grimlock should be enough plus his partners can be sold as Core figures like SS Ravage.
Emerje
That's the keyword here. "size".
We all know that nowadays, it means nothing.
Well to some people size still has some meaning.
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Getting a toy based on the animation's frequent misinterpretation of Menasor's design, where rather than actually being combined... the smaller Stunticons are stuck in inflated Motormaster limbs as if they were Mini-Cons... That would be equally crap, just in a different way.
And given Drag Strip splits in half, I fear that's where we're heading.
That or it's some awkward new system where you have to split the figures in half and partsform in the combiner joint. And of course they've mucked things up by getting rid of the perfectly good CW connection system..
Comment by ZeldaTheSwordsman
Mar 21, 2022
No it isn't.Autobot N wrote:Anything is an improvement over CW Menasor.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Assuming Menasor is worth completing.
Getting a toy based on the animation's frequent misinterpretation of Menasor's design, where rather than actually being combined... the smaller Stunticons are stuck in inflated Motormaster limbs as if they were Mini-Cons... That would be equally crap, just in a different way.
And given Drag Strip splits in half, I fear that's where we're heading.
That or it's some awkward new system where you have to split the figures in half and partsform in the combiner joint. And of course they've mucked things up by getting rid of the perfectly good CW connection system..
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Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
Mar 21, 2022
I would personally prefer the next commander be a Beast Wars Tigerhawk or Magnaboss. Menasor is maybe the one (bad) exception where a commander torso with skeleton limbs would (badly) work, the other combiners really don't need that honestly.
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Comment by D-Maximal_Primal
Mar 21, 2022
Thanks to some posts by Seibertronains Crankcase79 and chuckdawg1999, we have a couple of video reviews for the newest Transformers Legacy core class figures. These reviews focus in on the Core class for wave 1, with Crankcase79 giving us a good long look at Iguanus, arguably the most anticipated Wave 1 Core Class figure. We then switch over to our old pal chuck, who shows us the entire wave 1 of Hot Rod, Iguanus, and Skywarp along with their combining weapon schtick.
Check out the reviews below, and let us know what you think in the comments section below!
Check out the reviews below, and let us know what you think in the comments section below!
chuckdawg1999 wrote:For our first look at Legacy, the new Generations sub-theme, we have one new mold, a repaint, and a repack from the previous line that was meant as a back-door preview to Legacy. All in all, not an impressive start. On a positive note, Iguanus is a really good figure and more people should be able to find Hot Rod now, I hope. Skywarp is fine, but I'm disappointed by the lack of arm blasters that are a Seeker standard. The combined sword is a thing, but I don't see many people using it. Overall, having seen the rest of Wave 01, I feel that Legacy can only go up from here.
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Yeah, I don't really understand why people think more combiners should be done like this in the future. It only "works" (cautiously optimistic) with Menasor because he had that look on the cartoon and Motormaster has the trailer to help pull it off. There's really no need for other combiners to do this or the bulk built in to pull it off. What do you remove from Silverbolt to pull this off? This should really be a one off, save Commander class next year for something else. I'm still rooting for Magnaboss and Tripredacus, if TM2 Megatron can be a Leader then so can Tigerhawk.
Emerje
Comment by Emerje
Mar 21, 2022
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Menasor is maybe the one (bad) exception where a commander torso with skeleton limbs would (badly) work, the other combiners really don't need that honestly.
Yeah, I don't really understand why people think more combiners should be done like this in the future. It only "works" (cautiously optimistic) with Menasor because he had that look on the cartoon and Motormaster has the trailer to help pull it off. There's really no need for other combiners to do this or the bulk built in to pull it off. What do you remove from Silverbolt to pull this off? This should really be a one off, save Commander class next year for something else. I'm still rooting for Magnaboss and Tripredacus, if TM2 Megatron can be a Leader then so can Tigerhawk.
Emerje
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Comment by ZeldaTheSwordsman
Mar 21, 2022
I don't think even Menasor should be done that way. The trailer turning into the torso rather than Motormaster as a cab doing so or Motormaster as an underscale semi? That much, I could deal with. But going UW-Onslaugh-but-even-dumber and duplicating animation incompetence to where he's not even a real combiner anymore (especially since the actual character model got things right even if the animation in motion often didn't)? That, is trash and belongs in the trash.
As far as the next Commander-class goes, I'm more hoping for A. Overlord, to be better sized and have the full base mode instead of TR's watered-down shadow of it, B. Optimus Prime to just finally get him right already and have done with it, or B. Ultra Magnus. Magnaboss and Tripredacus, I'd rather see reissues of. I'm not sure how well remakes would turn out, even if they could both stand improvement.
I wonder if two-packs of the Trainbots could be done at the Leader price point.
As far as the next Commander-class goes, I'm more hoping for A. Overlord, to be better sized and have the full base mode instead of TR's watered-down shadow of it, B. Optimus Prime to just finally get him right already and have done with it, or B. Ultra Magnus. Magnaboss and Tripredacus, I'd rather see reissues of. I'm not sure how well remakes would turn out, even if they could both stand improvement.
I wonder if two-packs of the Trainbots could be done at the Leader price point.
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Comment by Autobot N
Mar 21, 2022
Do you own CW Menasor? That thing is awfulZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:No it isn't.Autobot N wrote:Anything is an improvement over CW Menasor.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Assuming Menasor is worth completing.
Getting a toy based on the animation's frequent misinterpretation of Menasor's design, where rather than actually being combined... the smaller Stunticons are stuck in inflated Motormaster limbs as if they were Mini-Cons... That would be equally crap, just in a different way.
And given Drag Strip splits in half, I fear that's where we're heading.
That or it's some awkward new system where you have to split the figures in half and partsform in the combiner joint. And of course they've mucked things up by getting rid of the perfectly good CW connection system..
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And I reiterate that Bad Animation Menasor would be equally awful, just in a different way. I want a real improvement, not to trade one set of f***ups for a different set of f***ups
Comment by ZeldaTheSwordsman
Mar 21, 2022
Yes, I do. Well, sort of - Wildrider, Dragstrip, and Breakdown are all repainted Autobots because the eBay prices on the actual limbs can go <CENSORED>. And yes, it is, because the torso mold was designed more as an Optimus Prime than it was as a torso.Autobot N wrote:Do you own CW Menasor? That thing is awfulZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:No it isn't.Autobot N wrote:Anything is an improvement over CW Menasor.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Assuming Menasor is worth completing.
Getting a toy based on the animation's frequent misinterpretation of Menasor's design, where rather than actually being combined... the smaller Stunticons are stuck in inflated Motormaster limbs as if they were Mini-Cons... That would be equally crap, just in a different way.
And given Drag Strip splits in half, I fear that's where we're heading.
That or it's some awkward new system where you have to split the figures in half and partsform in the combiner joint. And of course they've mucked things up by getting rid of the perfectly good CW connection system..
And I reiterate that Bad Animation Menasor would be equally awful, just in a different way. I want a real improvement, not to trade one set of f***ups for a different set of f***ups
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Comment by Sowndwave76
Mar 21, 2022
From what I remember seeing, I don’t recall anyone thinking future combiners should use the same combining system as this new Menasor (assuming it ends up being what most think).
It really wouldn’t work for the other teams.
CW Menasor was not good… Maybe the worst if the lot.
But I also don’t know what people would expect for this new version.
It’s clear that screen/cartoon accuracy has been a priority.
The other thing is when people say they’d like something new & different, that’s fine, but to expect that to really come to fruition seems unreasonable & unrealistic.
You could say the CW version was new… It did look different while having plenty of visual elements of the original.
And a lot of people have hated on it since its release.
So I’m optimistic about this Legacy offering.
I’d hope Hastak has taken whatever cues necessary to make this a solid set.
And I think it will be.
Of course, if you never liked Menasor’s design to begin with, then save $200 & don’t bother.
I’m anxiously looking forward to this guy because I want more Deceptions, & I do like his G1 appearance.
It really wouldn’t work for the other teams.
CW Menasor was not good… Maybe the worst if the lot.
But I also don’t know what people would expect for this new version.
It’s clear that screen/cartoon accuracy has been a priority.
The other thing is when people say they’d like something new & different, that’s fine, but to expect that to really come to fruition seems unreasonable & unrealistic.
You could say the CW version was new… It did look different while having plenty of visual elements of the original.
And a lot of people have hated on it since its release.
So I’m optimistic about this Legacy offering.
I’d hope Hastak has taken whatever cues necessary to make this a solid set.
And I think it will be.
Of course, if you never liked Menasor’s design to begin with, then save $200 & don’t bother.
I’m anxiously looking forward to this guy because I want more Deceptions, & I do like his G1 appearance.
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Comment by william-james88
Mar 22, 2022
We were missing the final wave of figures last time we gave you a wave breakdown for Legacy. Well, thanks to fellow Seibertronian JTPrime17, we now have product numbers showing us who will be the deluxes and voyagers in wave 4. As expected, the final Stunticon breakdown will be there, along with 2 repacks (anyone still looking for Earthrise Wheeljack?). As for voyagers, we will have the Blaster redeco, Twincast! It is unknown which cassette partner he will be paired with. Below are the newly found product codes followed by an updated full wave breakdown.
Tra Gen Legacy ev Deluxe Cheetor Pr
Product number: F3516
Tra Gen Legacy ev Deluxe Wheeljack Pr
Product Number: F3307
Tra Gen legacy ev Deluxe Stunticon Breakdown
Product Number: F3036
Tra Gen legacy ev voyager Twincast
Product Number: F3059
Core:
Wave 1:
Skywarp x2
Hot Rod x3
Iguanus x3
Wave 2:
Iguanas x1
Optimus Prime (repack) x1
G2 Megatron x2
Shockwave x2
Wave 3:
Soundwave (repack)
Energon monster
Wave 4:
Skullgrin
Megatron (repack)
Deluxe:
Wave 1:
Skids x2
Dragstrip x2
Prime Arcee x2
Kickback x2
Wave 2:
Prime Knockout x2
Elita 1 x2
Tarantulas x2
Wildrider x2
Wave 3:
Pointblank x2
Crankcase x2
Energon monster x2
Deadend x2
wave 4:
Wheeljack (repack)
Cheetor (repack)
Breakdown
Voyager:
wave 1:
Blaster x2
Bulkhead x1
wave 2:
Soundwave (repack) x2
Jhiaxus x1
wave 3:
Armada Starscream x2
Beast wars Inferno x1
wave 4:
Twincast
Leader:
Wave 1:
Lazer Optimus Prime
Galvatron (Repack)
Wave 2:
Blitzwing
Lazer Optimus Prime
Wave 3:
Dragon Megatron
Blitzwing
Commander:
Motormaster
Titan:
Cybertron Metroplex
Tra Gen Legacy ev Deluxe Cheetor Pr
Product number: F3516
Tra Gen Legacy ev Deluxe Wheeljack Pr
Product Number: F3307
Tra Gen legacy ev Deluxe Stunticon Breakdown
Product Number: F3036
Tra Gen legacy ev voyager Twincast
Product Number: F3059
Core:
Wave 1:
Skywarp x2
Hot Rod x3
Iguanus x3
Wave 2:
Iguanas x1
Optimus Prime (repack) x1
G2 Megatron x2
Shockwave x2
Wave 3:
Soundwave (repack)
Energon monster
Wave 4:
Skullgrin
Megatron (repack)
Deluxe:
Wave 1:
Skids x2
Dragstrip x2
Prime Arcee x2
Kickback x2
Wave 2:
Prime Knockout x2
Elita 1 x2
Tarantulas x2
Wildrider x2
Wave 3:
Pointblank x2
Crankcase x2
Energon monster x2
Deadend x2
wave 4:
Wheeljack (repack)
Cheetor (repack)
Breakdown
Voyager:
wave 1:
Blaster x2
Bulkhead x1
wave 2:
Soundwave (repack) x2
Jhiaxus x1
wave 3:
Armada Starscream x2
Beast wars Inferno x1
wave 4:
Twincast
Leader:
Wave 1:
Lazer Optimus Prime
Galvatron (Repack)
Wave 2:
Blitzwing
Lazer Optimus Prime
Wave 3:
Dragon Megatron
Blitzwing
Commander:
Motormaster
Titan:
Cybertron Metroplex
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Comment by Emerje
Mar 22, 2022
Eh, as far as I'm concerned multiple figures coming together in any way makes a combiner, it doesn't matter how essential or ridiculous their inclusion is. We still call Magnaboss a 3 figure combiner despite Silverbolt being nothing more than decorations and boob canons.
And really, it's silly that people are so hooked up on the arms when the legs are basically the same between both animation models so it's just the arms that are in question. Also since there's a break in Dragstrip where the elbow joint will be we can tell he'll be forming the bulk of the arm, why are we so hooked up on combiner pegs and fists directly inserting into the car?
At least we know for a fact he won't look like this:
Or this:
Because of the elbow joint. It'll look more like a normal combiner than whole cars hanging off his shoulders. I'm looking forward to it, I think the arms with a dedicated elbow joint will look a lot better in the end than the elbow hips and crotch we had in CW.
Emerje
And really, it's silly that people are so hooked up on the arms when the legs are basically the same between both animation models so it's just the arms that are in question. Also since there's a break in Dragstrip where the elbow joint will be we can tell he'll be forming the bulk of the arm, why are we so hooked up on combiner pegs and fists directly inserting into the car?
At least we know for a fact he won't look like this:
Or this:
Because of the elbow joint. It'll look more like a normal combiner than whole cars hanging off his shoulders. I'm looking forward to it, I think the arms with a dedicated elbow joint will look a lot better in the end than the elbow hips and crotch we had in CW.
Emerje
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Comment by ZeldaTheSwordsman
Mar 22, 2022
Magnaboss is a unique combiner with a proprietary system, though.
It's a question of a difference between the animation models - both of which show the limb bots actually being the limbs, like they're supposed to - and the ways the rush-job animation (and bungling comic artists) often screwed up their interpretation of said models.
It's not a question of a difference between the animation models.Emerje wrote:And really, it's silly that people are so hooked up on the arms when the legs are basically the same between both animation models so it's just the arms that are in question.
It's a question of a difference between the animation models - both of which show the limb bots actually being the limbs, like they're supposed to - and the ways the rush-job animation (and bungling comic artists) often screwed up their interpretation of said models.Ah-ha-ha-hah-ha, no. We don't know that. In fact, that blasted break in Drag Strip says he'll look more like that than not - that's why I've been complaining! The only difference is the arm bots will be split between the upper and lower arms. Instead of, you know, actually being the arms like they're supposed to.Emerje wrote:Also since there's a break in Dragstrip where the elbow joint will be we can tell he'll be forming the bulk of the arm, why are we so hooked up on combiner pegs and fists directly inserting into the car?
At least we know for a fact he won't look like this:
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Or this:
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