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In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave

Transformers News: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave

Monday, March 5th, 2018 8:19AM CST

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Notrab on Weibo has posted an image of the robot mode for the new Shockwave toy we only saw yesterday for the first time. This is part of the Cyber Battalion line which is made up of bigger, simpler, and less expensve Transformer toys of recognizable characters. As you can see from the photo comparing it to the Masterpiece toy, this Shockwave is the same height as a Voyager. The image shows us that Hasbro chose a darker grape purple color. We also have a better sense of the articulation. Like with most other figures in this line aimed at young children, there is a lack of knees and bicep swivel. Is this a dealbreaker for any fan out there? For those hoping to pick him up, so far he has been found in Taiwan and previous toys in this line were found at Universal Studios and Walgreens in the US. If any fan finds more images of this toy on the internet, in either mode, please let us know.

Transformers News: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave
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Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1943952)
Posted by Rated X on March 5th, 2018 @ 8:35am CST
Is it possible for some shapeways guy to make some knees that peg in where the mushroom peg does? Even if it adds half an inch to his height...that would work if it doesnt effect the transformation.
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1943955)
Posted by Randomhero on March 5th, 2018 @ 8:42am CST
No knees
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1943957)
Posted by MaverickPrime on March 5th, 2018 @ 8:55am CST
No, no, no, NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
YOU CHEAP A**HOLES, A BALLJOINT WOULD HAVE DONE THE EXACT SAME FUNCTION WITHOUT RAISING PARTS COUNT.
God damn it Hasbro, why do you keep shooting yourself in the knee???
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1943958)
Posted by Randomhero on March 5th, 2018 @ 8:59am CST
MaverickPrime wrote:No, no, no, NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
YOU CHEAP A**HOLES, A BALLJOINT WOULD HAVE DONE THE EXACT SAME FUNCTION WITHOUT RAISING PARTS COUNT.
God damn it Hasbro, why do you keep shooting yourself in the knee???



Take it easy there. You’re literally yelling at your computer about a toy legitimately made for 4 year olds.
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1943960)
Posted by Big Grim on March 5th, 2018 @ 9:15am CST
william-james88 wrote:
Big Grim wrote:That Shockwave is gorgeous.


He is. No knees though.

I can forgive that, being what it is.
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1943961)
Posted by Evil Eye on March 5th, 2018 @ 9:27am CST
There's something deeply unsettling yet amusing that one of the best looking CHUG scale Shockwaves in recent years is also a cheaply made brick intended for small children. Like, that sculpt is superb- it's almost wasted on that line. That said I would have adored him as a kid so mission accomplished I guess. The lack of knees is weird though, a balljoint would have made sense for that.
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1943962)
Posted by william-james88 on March 5th, 2018 @ 9:28am CST
Rated X wrote:Is it possible for some shapeways guy to make some knees that peg in where the mushroom peg does? Even if it adds half an inch to his height...that would work if it doesnt effect the transformation.

I am sure it is possible but then that raises one's full cost of the figure. You still lack the bicep swivel and it is still a relatively simple and hollow toy. So is it really worth putting extra money into it on our end? He looks good on a shelf wihout adding any work or money.
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1943965)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 5th, 2018 @ 9:38am CST
They could always retool him slightly, upping the parts count and release him for wfc. Of course he'll be retailed for full voyager cost
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1943966)
Posted by grimdragon2001 on March 5th, 2018 @ 9:38am CST
I'd love to see this guy with some CHUG figures, just see how he scales with them
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1943968)
Posted by william-james88 on March 5th, 2018 @ 9:42am CST
grimdragon2001 wrote:I'd love to see this guy with some CHUG figures, just see how he scales with them

He is the exact same size as the jetfire in the image below so that should give you an idea:
Image

And he would scale with TR Megatron similarly to how Starscream scales with him below:

Image
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1943973)
Posted by YoungPrime on March 5th, 2018 @ 10:05am CST
Randomhero wrote:
MaverickPrime wrote:No, no, no, NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
YOU CHEAP A**HOLES, A BALLJOINT WOULD HAVE DONE THE EXACT SAME FUNCTION WITHOUT RAISING PARTS COUNT.
God damn it Hasbro, why do you keep shooting yourself in the knee???



Take it easy there. You’re literally yelling at your computer about a toy legitimately made for 4 year olds.

Yeah, well I'm not giving a 4 year old a kneeless figure that costs almost 20 bucks. But feel free to justify lackluster crap all you want.
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1943980)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 5th, 2018 @ 10:30am CST
YoungPrime wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
MaverickPrime wrote:No, no, no, NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
YOU CHEAP A**HOLES, A BALLJOINT WOULD HAVE DONE THE EXACT SAME FUNCTION WITHOUT RAISING PARTS COUNT.
God damn it Hasbro, why do you keep shooting yourself in the knee???



Take it easy there. You’re literally yelling at your computer about a toy legitimately made for 4 year olds.

Yeah, well I'm not giving a 4 year old a kneeless figure that costs almost 20 bucks. But feel free to justify lackluster crap all you want.

He's not justifying it, it's literally why hasbro made this line, the target audience is children, I imagine it would be a lead in from rescue bots toys, then going into either movie toys or other generations figures. It's not targeting collectors like us...not that it will stop the few of us who just want it for display purposes so find a knee joint not needed.
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1943982)
Posted by YoungPrime on March 5th, 2018 @ 10:33am CST
MaverickPrime wrote:No, no, no, NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
YOU CHEAP A**HOLES, A BALLJOINT WOULD HAVE DONE THE EXACT SAME FUNCTION WITHOUT RAISING PARTS COUNT.
God damn it Hasbro, why do you keep shooting yourself in the knee???


Sadly they do this because they know that people will still buy it due to waiting for a quality Voyager class Generations Shockwave for years now.

But since there isn't one, Hasbro know's that they can continue milking this character. Here it is we've had a CW Legends class, a Cyberverse Shockwave pending and now this.....

And next I'm betting will be a Generations Leader class instead of a decent Voyager class Shockwave with legs that actually bend.

It's becoming the biggest downside to collecting.
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1943985)
Posted by YoungPrime on March 5th, 2018 @ 10:39am CST
ZeroWolf wrote:
YoungPrime wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
MaverickPrime wrote:No, no, no, NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
YOU CHEAP A**HOLES, A BALLJOINT WOULD HAVE DONE THE EXACT SAME FUNCTION WITHOUT RAISING PARTS COUNT.
God damn it Hasbro, why do you keep shooting yourself in the knee???



Take it easy there. You’re literally yelling at your computer about a toy legitimately made for 4 year olds.

Yeah, well I'm not giving a 4 year old a kneeless figure that costs almost 20 bucks. But feel free to justify lackluster crap all you want.

He's not justifying it, it's literally why hasbro made this line, the target audience is children, I imagine it would be a lead in from rescue bots toys, then going into either movie toys or other generations figures. It's not targeting collectors like us...not that it will stop the few of us who just want it for display purposes so find a knee joint not needed.

A temporary placeholder for $5 even $10 till Hasbro makes a real one? Sure.... But not $17 in irritating Walgreen toy sections. NOPE!
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1943987)
Posted by Rated X on March 5th, 2018 @ 11:02am CST
william-james88 wrote:
Rated X wrote:Is it possible for some shapeways guy to make some knees that peg in where the mushroom peg does? Even if it adds half an inch to his height...that would work if it doesnt effect the transformation.

I am sure it is possible but then that raises one's full cost of the figure. You still lack the bicep swivel and it is still a relatively simple and hollow toy. So is it really worth putting extra money into it on our end? He looks good on a shelf wihout adding any work or money.


How much more could some shapeways knees cost? 10 bucks? Sure I could stand him on a shelf but why not have more? Its only money, you only live once. Ten bucks wont make or break me.
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1943996)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 5th, 2018 @ 11:40am CST
YoungPrime wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
YoungPrime wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
MaverickPrime wrote:No, no, no, NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
YOU CHEAP A**HOLES, A BALLJOINT WOULD HAVE DONE THE EXACT SAME FUNCTION WITHOUT RAISING PARTS COUNT.
God damn it Hasbro, why do you keep shooting yourself in the knee???



Take it easy there. You’re literally yelling at your computer about a toy legitimately made for 4 year olds.

Yeah, well I'm not giving a 4 year old a kneeless figure that costs almost 20 bucks. But feel free to justify lackluster crap all you want.

He's not justifying it, it's literally why hasbro made this line, the target audience is children, I imagine it would be a lead in from rescue bots toys, then going into either movie toys or other generations figures. It's not targeting collectors like us...not that it will stop the few of us who just want it for display purposes so find a knee joint not needed.

A temporary placeholder for $5 even $10 till Hasbro makes a real one? Sure.... But not $17 in irritating Walgreen toy sections. NOPE!

Then you don't have to get it :-) other people will and will have fun knowing the flaws.
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1944000)
Posted by YoungPrime on March 5th, 2018 @ 11:57am CST
Rated X wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Rated X wrote:Is it possible for some shapeways guy to make some knees that peg in where the mushroom peg does? Even if it adds half an inch to his height...that would work if it doesnt effect the transformation.

I am sure it is possible but then that raises one's full cost of the figure. You still lack the bicep swivel and it is still a relatively simple and hollow toy. So is it really worth putting extra money into it on our end? He looks good on a shelf wihout adding any work or money.


How much more could some shapeways knees cost? 10 bucks? Sure I could stand him on a shelf but why not have more? Its only money, you only live once. Ten bucks wont make or break me.

We're not talking adding spoiler or new rims to a car here.

If you'd like to pay almost $30 for a cheap placeholder which will likely get a real Voyager or Leader class Shockwave soon after then so be it.

But for me.... Take Grimlock for example. When FOC Grimlock released, I bought it. Then the TRU gold version released with that Movie OP came out so I bought that to. Then that Iron factory upgrade release and I grab that and added to the TRU exclusive FOC Grimlock and it's been my Stand in Grimlock ever since. Meanwhile that POTP Grimlock is a stubby mess that I have no interest in combining. So I skipped it an only want the 4 deluxe Dinobots (well only Sludge and Snarl now) to go with Slash.

Point being is that I'm no longer buy just anything that Hasbro makes anymore. My Sig is proof of how happy I use to be with random Shockwave's in the past but for now on I'm no longer settling.
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1944004)
Posted by william-james88 on March 5th, 2018 @ 12:29pm CST
Rated X wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
Rated X wrote:Is it possible for some shapeways guy to make some knees that peg in where the mushroom peg does? Even if it adds half an inch to his height...that would work if it doesnt effect the transformation.

I am sure it is possible but then that raises one's full cost of the figure. You still lack the bicep swivel and it is still a relatively simple and hollow toy. So is it really worth putting extra money into it on our end? He looks good on a shelf wihout adding any work or money.


How much more could some shapeways knees cost? 10 bucks? Sure I could stand him on a shelf but why not have more? Its only money, you only live once. Ten bucks wont make or break me.

Sure, but that still becomes an upscaled legends toy for 27$. Well look to each's own, I just dont feel adding knees (for 10$ no less) will make this figure that much better than before.

Though I do agree that elbows did make all the difference with Combiner Wars scrapper. I am glad to know you will be enjoying this toy to its fullest :)

YoungPrime wrote:But since there isn't one, Hasbro know's that they can continue milking this character. Here it is we've had a CW Legends class, a Cyberverse Shockwave pending and now this.....


I really dont think theres a cospircy theory. Especially when this particular toyline was never meant for either US distribution or a collector market.
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1944005)
Posted by YoungPrime on March 5th, 2018 @ 12:30pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:
YoungPrime wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:
YoungPrime wrote:
Randomhero wrote:
MaverickPrime wrote:No, no, no, NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
YOU CHEAP A**HOLES, A BALLJOINT WOULD HAVE DONE THE EXACT SAME FUNCTION WITHOUT RAISING PARTS COUNT.
God damn it Hasbro, why do you keep shooting yourself in the knee???



Take it easy there. You’re literally yelling at your computer about a toy legitimately made for 4 year olds.

Yeah, well I'm not giving a 4 year old a kneeless figure that costs almost 20 bucks. But feel free to justify lackluster crap all you want.

He's not justifying it, it's literally why hasbro made this line, the target audience is children, I imagine it would be a lead in from rescue bots toys, then going into either movie toys or other generations figures. It's not targeting collectors like us...not that it will stop the few of us who just want it for display purposes so find a knee joint not needed.

A temporary placeholder for $5 even $10 till Hasbro makes a real one? Sure.... But not $17 in irritating Walgreen toy sections. NOPE!

Then you don't have to get it :-) other people will and will have fun knowing the flaws.


And who said I was stopping you....Buy 20 of'em.
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1944019)
Posted by Deadput on March 5th, 2018 @ 2:18pm CST
YoungPrime wrote:And who said I was stopping you....Buy 20 of'em.


Why do you have to be so condescending about our opinions? You claim to not be but your attitude on the sites says otherwise.

Who the heck would buy 20 of these anyways there is no troop building potential in this people would only buy 1 or 2 at most.
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1944020)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 5th, 2018 @ 2:18pm CST
Oh I know but I guess my point was muddled. You complain about it but failed to see that we were never meant to get this. If any collector in the West buys it, it'll be a bonus.

Got to ask though, from what you said youngprime, what was the straw that broke the camels back for you regarding hasbro?
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1944031)
Posted by kurthy on March 5th, 2018 @ 3:06pm CST
I don't care about the lack of knees, I've got plenty of figures that have knees that are useless. In the end, it's a $17 figure that fills a much needed spot in my collection and doesn't look awful. I've got plenty of more expensive figures that I don't want to transform like alpha trion, broadside, T30 doubledealer, classics Ironhide,
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1944033)
Posted by william-james88 on March 5th, 2018 @ 3:08pm CST
kurthy wrote:I don't care about the lack of knees, I've got plenty of figures that have knees that are useless. In the end, it's a $17 figure that fills a much needed spot in my collection and doesn't look awful. I've got plenty of more expensive figures that I don't want to transform like alpha trion, broadside, T30 doubledealer, classics Ironhide,

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1944035)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 5th, 2018 @ 3:25pm CST
kurthy wrote:I don't care about the lack of knees, I've got plenty of figures that have knees that are useless. In the end, it's a $17 figure that fills a much needed spot in my collection and doesn't look awful. I've got plenty of more expensive figures that I don't want to transform like alpha trion, broadside, T30 doubledealer, classics Ironhide,

This is probably the best comment I've read about this. Enjoy getting him :-)
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1944039)
Posted by Deadput on March 5th, 2018 @ 3:40pm CST
I wouldn't mind getting him either Shockwave isn't a character I think that needs to be in super dynamic poses considering how stoic he is and how sometimes he's just an over glorified secretary like the G1 toon.

I also either leave my figures on shelfs and battle scene replications and only pick them up to fiddle or Transform so no knees is fine.
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1944040)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 5th, 2018 @ 3:49pm CST
Deadput wrote:there is no troop building potential in this
Erm, technically there is since Shockwave can make duplicates of himself, according his profile in the G1 cartoon's production bible (and which the Devastation game made actual use of this ability).
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1944062)
Posted by Deadput on March 5th, 2018 @ 5:13pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:
Deadput wrote:there is no troop building potential in this
Erm, technically there is since Shockwave can make duplicates of himself, according his profile in the G1 cartoon's production bible (and which the Devastation game made actual use of this ability).

I had no idea that was even a thing.

I guess you could but really who is gonna do that though?

I think the CW Shockwave figure would be much better to do that with but then again besides a toy bio and one game the ability is non existent so I don't think many would do troop build Shockwave.
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1944064)
Posted by Emerje on March 5th, 2018 @ 5:17pm CST
Randomhero wrote:
MaverickPrime wrote:No, no, no, NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
YOU CHEAP A**HOLES, A BALLJOINT WOULD HAVE DONE THE EXACT SAME FUNCTION WITHOUT RAISING PARTS COUNT.
God damn it Hasbro, why do you keep shooting yourself in the knee???



Take it easy there. You’re literally yelling at your computer about a toy legitimately made for 4 year olds.

These aren't made for 4 year olds, or any specific age demographic for that matter. They're not made for most of us here at all. The Cyber series is made for countries (usually parts of Asia and places south of the USA) where the average family can't afford to buy a bunch of very expensive toys for their kids. This gives them a decent figure at a good size and a much more affordable price. I'm sure it isn't by chance that these showed up at Walgreens since they're probably the biggest market six store that would attract low income families.

Emerje
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1944065)
Posted by Sabrblade on March 5th, 2018 @ 5:18pm CST
Deadput wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Deadput wrote:there is no troop building potential in this
Erm, technically there is since Shockwave can make duplicates of himself, according his profile in the G1 cartoon's production bible (and which the Devastation game made actual use of this ability).

I had no idea that was even a thing.

I guess you could but really who is gonna do that though?

I think the CW Shockwave figure would be much better to do that with but then again besides a toy bio and one game the ability is non existent so I don't think many would do troop build Shockwave.
One very popular game, though.

Additionally, Aligned Shockwave likewise had a bunch of avatars of himself made and stationed all over Cybertron to both carry out his work on a planet-wide scale and to protect his true self from harm, according to his claim in the final issue of the Rage of the Dinobots comic mini-series.
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1944089)
Posted by Deadput on March 5th, 2018 @ 6:36pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:
Deadput wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
Deadput wrote:there is no troop building potential in this
Erm, technically there is since Shockwave can make duplicates of himself, according his profile in the G1 cartoon's production bible (and which the Devastation game made actual use of this ability).

I had no idea that was even a thing.

I guess you could but really who is gonna do that though?

I think the CW Shockwave figure would be much better to do that with but then again besides a toy bio and one game the ability is non existent so I don't think many would do troop build Shockwave.
One very popular game, though.

Additionally, Aligned Shockwave likewise had a bunch of avatars of himself made and stationed all over Cybertron to both carry out his work on a planet-wide scale and to protect his true self from harm, according to his claim in the final issue of the Rage of the Dinobots comic mini-series.


I don't think Devastation was that popular though.

Anyways it's weird I read that comic but still never knew about Shockwave's ability until today.
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1944124)
Posted by ricemazter on March 5th, 2018 @ 10:03pm CST
Eh, if only he had knees I "might" be interested. The lack of decent, properly scaled shockwaves given the ubiquity of the character never fails to surprise me.

The closest I've been able to get to a good shockwave that fits in my neo g1/IDW collection was the FoC deluxe, which is a bit too small. Thankfully, I was able to grab Energon Shockblast a year ago on eBay for $25. He may not be accurate, but he still looks great, and, if I ever get the urge, I can slap a couple shapeways upgrades and some paint in him.
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1944159)
Posted by noctorro on March 6th, 2018 @ 1:33am CST
kurthy wrote:I don't care about the lack of knees, I've got plenty of figures that have knees that are useless. In the end, it's a $17 figure that fills a much needed spot in my collection and doesn't look awful. I've got plenty of more expensive figures that I don't want to transform like alpha trion, broadside, T30 doubledealer, classics Ironhide,


This ^

He looks awesome! And a great size to go with the other leader type bots.
I don't care that much for the knees.
I also love the spider tank Shockwave, I might get 3 so this voyager sized has a little army.

Hey guys, do you member back in the day where we had Armada Sideswipe, who looked nothing like g1 Sideswipe and had no knees?
Do you member Energon Hot Shot, who looked like a yellow lego brick?
Do you guys member RID Ultra Magnus, that had huge hollow legs and was nothing more than an armor drone for Optimus.
Do you guys member Galvatron being a Megatron repaint?
Do you guys member Megatron not being grey?
Do you member everybody losing their sh*t for Energon combiners?

Sorry people, some might be too young for that. But Hasbro is seriously winning since Classics.
Generations, Combiner Wars (real combiners and lots of them!), Titans Return (a big ton of G1 figures, you people got headmaster/target master teams complete!), and now Power of the Primes bloody Hot Rod transforming into Rodimus Prime. It, I, nope. I can't say anything bad about Hasbro, too much awesomeness and way to much win. For me it's like 80%+ are totally awesome they make and I can't even keep up with the TF's that are great, I buy like 3 almost weekly.

Sorry for da long rantu.
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1944171)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on March 6th, 2018 @ 4:28am CST
ricemazter wrote:Eh, if only he had knees I "might" be interested. The lack of decent, properly scaled shockwaves given the ubiquity of the character never fails to surprise me.

The closest I've been able to get to a good shockwave that fits in my neo g1/IDW collection was the FoC deluxe, which is a bit too small. Thankfully, I was able to grab Energon Shockblast a year ago on eBay for $25. He may not be accurate, but he still looks great, and, if I ever get the urge, I can slap a couple shapeways upgrades and some paint in him.


You guys seem to forget the pretty amazing Beast Hunters voyager Shockwave. The vehicle is forgettable, sure. But that bot mode is fantastic and could fit well in a Classic display. Also, optional "barbarian armor" if that's your thing.


Image
Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Shockwave Gallery

Image
Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Shockwave Gallery
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1944198)
Posted by shajaki on March 6th, 2018 @ 8:48am CST
william-james88 wrote:
YoungPrime wrote:But since there isn't one, Hasbro know's that they can continue milking this character. Here it is we've had a CW Legends class, a Cyberverse Shockwave pending and now this.....
I really dont think theres a cospircy theory.
How can you be sure Will?

I did some sleuthing, and I found an actual shot of the Hasbro execs during the moment of inspiration. This is how they looked in their boardroom, talking about this figure in relation to collectors:

I'm not posting the image here, only a link. It's not for the faint of heart.
https://i.imgur.com/oNyn2G7.jpg
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1944211)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 6th, 2018 @ 10:04am CST
shajaki wrote:
william-james88 wrote:
YoungPrime wrote:But since there isn't one, Hasbro know's that they can continue milking this character. Here it is we've had a CW Legends class, a Cyberverse Shockwave pending and now this.....
I really dont think theres a cospircy theory.
How can you be sure Will?

I did some sleuthing, and I found an actual shot of the Hasbro execs during the moment of inspiration. This is how they looked in their boardroom, talking about this figure in relation to collectors:

I'm not posting the image here, only a link. It's not for the faint of heart.
https://i.imgur.com/oNyn2G7.jpg

:lol:

It'll all cone to a head when hasbro declare Christmas 2 in March ;-)

(I love that movie and along with muppets it's one of my favourite Xmas movies that I have to make time for)

I wasn't posting here when jet fire and his mates were released so forgive me if it's dredging up old issues but did hasbro ever give a reason as to why the line is more or less exclusive to that region?
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1944218)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 6th, 2018 @ 10:24am CST
ZeroWolf wrote:I wasn't posting here when jet fire and his mates were released so forgive me if it's dredging up old issues but did hasbro ever give a reason as to why the line is more or less exclusive to that region?


The Cyber Series is done by the Global Development Organization, which deals with markets like Asia and South America pretty much AFAIK.
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1944229)
Posted by ricemazter on March 6th, 2018 @ 10:53am CST
-Kanrabat- wrote:
ricemazter wrote:Eh, if only he had knees I "might" be interested. The lack of decent, properly scaled shockwaves given the ubiquity of the character never fails to surprise me.

The closest I've been able to get to a good shockwave that fits in my neo g1/IDW collection was the FoC deluxe, which is a bit too small. Thankfully, I was able to grab Energon Shockblast a year ago on eBay for $25. He may not be accurate, but he still looks great, and, if I ever get the urge, I can slap a couple shapeways upgrades and some paint in him.


You guys seem to forget the pretty amazing Beast Hunters voyager Shockwave. The vehicle is forgettable, sure. But that bot mode is fantastic and could fit well in a Classic display. Also, optional "barbarian armor" if that's your thing.


Image
Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Shockwave Gallery

Image
Transformers Prime Beast Hunters Shockwave Gallery



Oh, there's no doubt that prime shockwave is great, I just don't think he fits in anywhere except prime. I actually like his alt mode a lot, but his weird insect head just doesn't fit in.
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1944235)
Posted by grimdragon2001 on March 6th, 2018 @ 11:15am CST
I actually have the SDCC version of Prime Shockwave acting as my Classics Shockwave right now, but yea, this new Cyber Battalion version would do the job so much better. The lack of knees is problematic though
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1944254)
Posted by beastwarsbrah on March 6th, 2018 @ 12:25pm CST
I've seen jetfire at Walgreens, I had no idea these were voyager size. Might have to go see if they still have him.

Shockwave looks awesome, I don't mind that he doesn't have knees.
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1944281)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on March 6th, 2018 @ 2:40pm CST
I actually like that Sideswipe! May need to pick him up eventually
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1944318)
Posted by YoungPrime on March 6th, 2018 @ 6:53pm CST
ZeroWolf wrote:Oh I know but I guess my point was muddled. You complain about it but failed to see that we were never meant to get this. If any collector in the West buys it, it'll be a bonus.

Got to ask though, from what you said youngprime, what was the straw that broke the camels back for you regarding hasbro?


There is no "Camel". I've supported TF for over 30 years now and I've had a Decepticon Tat on my arm for almost 20 years.

That doesn't mean I can't call out Hasbro's BS when they sell it. H3ll, people have said the same things that I have on the podcast here.

In this particular case I'm simply singling out the notion that Hasbro clearly know's that Fans/collector's/kids want a "quality" Voyager class Generations Shockwave but instead of making one they dance around it by making half@ssed version's of the character to keep consumers buying the latest and somewhat updated versions.

Real talk! They could take this figure and put a little more effort in it and make it EPIC! But it feels like their Shareholder Meeting/discussions go like: "If people will buy this mediocre version for $17 then why bother making quality ones anytime soon?"

Same goes for that upcoming Cyberverse version.
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1944321)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on March 6th, 2018 @ 7:21pm CST
YoungPrime wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Oh I know but I guess my point was muddled. You complain about it but failed to see that we were never meant to get this. If any collector in the West buys it, it'll be a bonus.

Got to ask though, from what you said youngprime, what was the straw that broke the camels back for you regarding hasbro?


There is no "Camel". I've supported TF for over 30 years now and I've had a Decepticon Tat on my arm for almost 20 years.

That doesn't mean I can't call out Hasbro's BS when they sell it. H3ll, people have said the same things that I have on the podcast here.

In this particular case I'm simply singling out the notion that Hasbro clearly know's that Fans/collector's/kids want a "quality" Voyager class Generations Shockwave but instead of making one they dance around it by making half@ssed version's of the character to keep consumers buying the latest and somewhat updated versions.

Real talk! They could take this figure and put a little more effort in it and make it EPIC! But it feels like their Shareholder Meeting/discussions go like: "If people will buy this mediocre version for $17 then why bother making quality ones anytime soon?"

Same goes for that upcoming Cyberverse version.


They could, but Age of Extinction marked clear boundaries between toys for younger and older kids, with the latter aimed more at discerning collectors as well. Even though the Cyber Series falls under Generations, this isn't one of those latter lines, in fact they may not even be by the same team. Can anyone verify?
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1944333)
Posted by william-james88 on March 6th, 2018 @ 7:52pm CST
beastwarsbrah wrote:I've seen jetfire at Walgreens, I had no idea these were voyager size. Might have to go see if they still have him.

Shockwave looks awesome, I don't mind that he doesn't have knees.


Knees are not the only issue with these toys. Its an obvious point to see as a deal breaker but in reality this toy is simply not meant for collectors in any way. Even if it had knees it would still be underwhelming due to the simplicity and overall articulation plus being as hollow as possible. These toys are closer to 3 step toys, titan changers and the RID Combiners we recently got and for a similar audience. They are very brickish, similar to G1 toys but only in regards to articulation joints. So if you like those 3 step changers, then this might be up your alley. But if you are expecting anything close to a deluxe class toy (in voyager scale), then this probably wont satisfy you. We can ask Agamemnon if ever he still checks this thread out.

Plus there are lots of reviews for you to get a good idea at what these toys are:



It does satisfy babies though, my kid found Cyber Battalion Prowl simply delicious.

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PS To Jelze: we never did know who at Hasbro made these and they were never discussed at Shows since they werent even intended to come out in the US at wide retail.
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1944351)
Posted by Cobotron on March 6th, 2018 @ 9:20pm CST
HEY! I didn't ship you that Prowl so Baby WJ could eat it!

:-? Or maybe I did. :lol:
Cute ass little kid. :x
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1944359)
Posted by Acesmcgee on March 6th, 2018 @ 9:44pm CST
Yeah, I bought that Jetfire at Wal-Mart thinking it was more akin to the previous release. He is alright, but more like a G1 figure in alot of ways. As someone who fiddles with these toys (meaning TF) he's one that never leaves the storage container because he is less fun to play with then any other TF I own.
And have to agree with Cobo, cute kid!
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1944425)
Posted by Emerje on March 7th, 2018 @ 3:07am CST
Acesmcgee wrote:Yeah, I bought that Jetfire at Wal-Mart thinking it was more akin to the previous release.

I really hope you meant Walgreens, otherwise that would have been some huge news.

Emerje
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1944442)
Posted by 1984forever on March 7th, 2018 @ 5:33am CST
WHERE ARE THE SCALPERS?
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1944445)
Posted by ZeroWolf on March 7th, 2018 @ 6:03am CST
1984forever wrote:WHERE ARE THE SCALPERS?

Patience my friend. Good things come to those who wait
Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1944507)
Posted by william-james88 on March 7th, 2018 @ 11:40am CST
TF Factory on Weibo has uploaded new images for the Cyber Battalion subline of Generations. We now have stock images of Shockwave in both robot and alt mode along with the artwork for Sideswipe (which looks nothing like the toy).

Shockwave initially had a lot of excitement from the fan community, along with frustration with the lack of articulation, especially knees. However, for those unaware about this particular line, the articulation is not the only aspect that may dissapoint fans who are used to Generations styled toys.

These are very basic toys upscaled to the voyager class. Just to help fans understand what these toys are all about, even if Shockwave had knees it might still be underwhelming due to the simplicity and overall articulation plus being as hollow as possible. These toys are closer to 3 step toys, Titan Changers and the RID Combiners we recently got and for a similar audience. They are very brickish, similar to G1 toys but only in regards to articulation joints. So if you like those 3 step changers, then this might be up your alley.

But if you are expecting anything close to a deluxe class toy (in voyager scale), then this probably wont satisfy you. We have added a video review below of the previous toy to come out in this line, Jetfire, for you to get a best sense as to what these toys are all about. Especially since there is a chance that Shockwave and Sideswipe will not come out in th US, and thus may be more costly to import.

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Re: In Hand Image of Transformers Generations Cyber Battalion Shockwave (1944514)
Posted by 1984forever on March 7th, 2018 @ 12:40pm CST
Looks like it might be mistransformed. I would either turn around the head or fold it down if possible and swing the arms forward so they’re not jutting off the back of the alt-mode.

Can’t find this fig for sale anywhere on the internet. WHERE ARE YOU SCALPERS??? I AM WAITING FOR YOU!

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