Lorenzo Di Bonaventura: More Action And More Comedy In Transformers: The Dark Of The Moon.

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Seibertronian Albershide let us know about an article on IGN with Lorenzo Di Bonavetura discussing the use of 3D technology and the type of humor we can expect in the Transformers 3. He also says there will be more action scenes.

"According to di Bonaventura, director Michael Bay's use of 3D technology this time around will take the franchise to the next level.

"It captures scenes in a way they haven't been captured before and here's a different sensibility to the movie as a result" he explained. "Michael is so awesome at shooting, the question originally was how the cameras would work because they're cumbersome. Look how long it took Jim Cameron to make one movie. All those things are quite daunting, but Michael figured out how to use the cameras in a day.

"We had a day early in pre-production set aside just so he could test the cameras and see what they were like. If you look at Avatar, the camera isn't sweeping around in the way Michael uses the camera, so we had to make sure it could do what Michael does. I think people are going to be pretty wowed by the result."

Aside from the 3D however, what will be different this time around?

"What you can expect is more comedy than we've ever had before" di Bonaventura revealed. "You can expect bigger action sequences than we've ever had before and you can expect a different character through-line for our lead because he's a little bit older and Rosie's a little bit older - there's a maturity there that didn't exist before.

"He's moved on to a new stage in his life with a job, and that's an interesting rite of passage, so I think it has the emotional elements that people are expecting of the movie, but they've moved forward in time, if you would."

Full article:
http://uk.movies.ign.com/articles/112/1129218p1.html

Credit(s): Albershide

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Re: Lorenzo Di Bonaventura: More Action And More Comedy In Transformers: The Dark Of The Moon. (1138604)
Posted by Cheetron on October 22nd, 2010 @ 7:11am CDT

I snickered at the part about Sam having a job.

"Excuse me boss, I've got to run. Got a world to save!"

"You walk out that door Witwicky and you're fired!"

"It's only my 4th job this month, I hope this emergency is better than the last."

lol

Re: Lorenzo Di Bonaventura: More Action And More Comedy In Transformers: The Dark Of The Moon. (1138608)
Posted by GEEWUN on October 22nd, 2010 @ 7:18am CDT

zenosaurus_x wrote:
"What you can expect is more comedy than we've ever had before"

*Groan...*
Don't get me wrong, I love the movies and they did have SOME funny moments but...ROTF had a few that made me like the movie so much less....

I agree, Glen made me laugh in the 1st film, but humping dogs and humping robots and Devestator Balls o' doom sorta made me wanna barf....

Re: Lorenzo Di Bonaventura: More Action And More Comedy In Transformers: The Dark Of The Moon. (1138609)
Posted by Cobalt Prime on October 22nd, 2010 @ 7:29am CDT

More action is good-you wont hear me complaining about it as long as the action is actually CLEAR and not the blurry jumbles of silverware we had in previous offerings.

In terms of comedy, I have no problem with it if it is done like it was in the first movie. There were scenes that were actually quite amusing, such as the Autobots "stealthily" stomping around Sam's back yard and quietly bickering, or Ratchet throwing out that embarrassing comment about the "boy's pheromone levels". Unfortunately, the cleverness disappeared in ROTF and the comedy came across as juvenile or just plain lame in most cases. I hope this time that the comic relief is more like the former than the latter.

Re: Lorenzo Di Bonaventura: More Action And More Comedy In Transformers: The Dark Of The Moon. (1138610)
Posted by RiddlerJ on October 22nd, 2010 @ 7:30am CDT

So what people are saying, if I got the gist here, is that EVERYONE pretty much admits that these movies are for children, only children, and that only a child would appreciate it.

Good to know ahead of time, I'll go see something else. Maybe something from Pixar.

Re: Lorenzo Di Bonaventura: More Action And More Comedy In Transformers: The Dark Of The Moon. (1138623)
Posted by mattyc1007 on October 22nd, 2010 @ 8:07am CDT

I rather liked devastators joke, more like that in a serious figth scene I can live with, also with the scorponok scene in 2007 with left cheek, left cheek, left cheek!

"This bad comedy" No cyclonus your bad comedy!

I say yes with comedy and no with haters or those with no humour

Re: Lorenzo Di Bonaventura: More Action And More Comedy In Transformers: The Dark Of The Moon. (1138626)
Posted by D-340 on October 22nd, 2010 @ 8:28am CDT

This is all what they pretty much had said prior to it's release. Ugh :roll:

, I'm bettin' it's gonna be ROTF all over again. Why can't they do a film more along the lines of the first one. Oh well I guess, it'll make huge bank and keep Transformers relevant for years to come. But I got a huge feeling it's gonna be just as bad as ROTF.

Re: Lorenzo Di Bonaventura: More Action And More Comedy In Transformers: The Dark Of The Moon. (1138628)
Posted by gothsaurus on October 22nd, 2010 @ 8:34am CDT

Ha ha ha. That was totally my concern.... more comedy and explosions... plus more human character development.

Wait, wasn't I coming to see a movie about robots? :???:

Re: Lorenzo Di Bonaventura: More Action And More Comedy In Transformers: The Dark Of The Moon. (1138633)
Posted by D-340 on October 22nd, 2010 @ 8:43am CDT

gothsaurus wrote:Ha ha ha. That was totally my concern.... more comedy and explosions... plus more human character development.

Wait, wasn't I coming to see a movie about robots?

The hell you say! A Transformers actually about the Transformers, pffftt..... who needs that when all the Transformers fans in the world are more concerned with how Sam will handle his new job and his new love interest. It's all about his coming of age story, thought you knew that.

Re: Lorenzo Di Bonaventura: More Action And More Comedy In Transformers: The Dark Of The Moon. (1138634)
Posted by First-Aid on October 22nd, 2010 @ 8:47am CDT

GEEWUN wrote: ...and Devestator Balls o' doom....

Priceless quote!

gothsaurus wrote:Wait, wasn't I coming to see a movie about robots?

Not really. Even in the beginning of G1, it was a matter of robots interacting with humans by accidentally bringing a war to the planet.

D-340 wrote: Oh well I guess, it'll make huge bank and keep Transformers relevant for years to come. But I got a huge feeling it's gonna be just as bad as ROTF.

See bold text above. For us as fans this is all we should be concerned about. Personally, I like the diversity of the multiple universes and timelines- keeps it from getting boring and repetitive- but I would hate to see Transformers cease to exist.

RiddlerJ wrote:Good to know ahead of time, I'll go see something else. Maybe something from Pixar.

Wow...you are a masochist.

Cobalt Prime wrote:More action is good-you wont hear me complaining about it as long as the action is actually CLEAR and not the blurry jumbles of silverware we had in previous offerings.

Two words: forest fight. Nuff said.

Re: Lorenzo Di Bonaventura: More Action And More Comedy In Transformers: The Dark Of The Moon. (1138649)
Posted by kirbenvost on October 22nd, 2010 @ 9:57am CDT

Autobot032 wrote:
Burn wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:...this is why we can't have nice things. You know that, right?

But ... but ... we're entitled, no ... we DESERVE nice things! They owe us! THEY OWE USSSSSSSS!!!!!!

Of course they do! We're like 90% of their revenue, and we're their main focus! Kids are merely an afterthought.

Remember folks, the box says "For Ages 30 And Up", I mean, it's not rocket surgery here...TransFormers aren't for kids, silly rabbit!

Geez. You'd think people would figure out that it's ALL about US!

US!

US.

But...I'm only 26. :-(

Cheetron wrote:I snickered at the part about Sam having a job.

"Excuse me boss, I've got to run. Got a world to save!"

"You walk out that door Witwicky and you're fired!"

"It's only my 4th job this month, I hope this emergency is better than the last."

lol

Wait, you forgot a couple lines!

Boss: "Dammit! I warned you Witwicky!! You're FIRED!"

Sam, running away: "Nonononononononononononono..."

Re: Lorenzo Di Bonaventura: More Action And More Comedy In Transformers: The Dark Of The Moon. (1138662)
Posted by Prankmeister on October 22nd, 2010 @ 10:22am CDT

First-Aid wrote:
RiddlerJ wrote:Good to know ahead of time, I'll go see something else. Maybe something from Pixar.

Wow...you are a masochist.

Are you implying here that Pixar makes bad movies?

Because them's fightin' words.

Re: Lorenzo Di Bonaventura: More Action And More Comedy In Transformers: The Dark Of The Moon. (1138677)
Posted by zenosaurus_x on October 22nd, 2010 @ 11:00am CDT

GEEWUN wrote:
zenosaurus_x wrote:
"What you can expect is more comedy than we've ever had before"

*Groan...*
Don't get me wrong, I love the movies and they did have SOME funny moments but...ROTF had a few that made me like the movie so much less....

I agree, Glen made me laugh in the 1st film, but humping dogs and humping robots and Devestator Balls o' doom sorta made me wanna barf....

The dogs scene was just....a waste of effort, life, and film...Devastator was just weird...
Glenn was actually funny at least and now I hear(well from long ago) that LEO gets a larger role?

I really didn't like Leo >_>

What you want is more rubbish films, so thank god you don't decide for any of us. For you they are somehow deep and meaningful...you're a Bay fan, not a Transformers fan.

As Burn said, it was a joke. I don't even see how you could think that was a serious sentence.

Re: Lorenzo Di Bonaventura: More Action And More Comedy In Transformers: The Dark Of The Moon. (1138679)
Posted by SpeedyEric on October 22nd, 2010 @ 11:13am CDT

Just like I have with the first 2 movie, I can't wait to see The Dark of the Moon. Also, I'm okay with the comedy as long as it helps the movie, and it doesn't overshadow the rest of the story.

Re: Lorenzo Di Bonaventura: More Action And More Comedy In Transformers: The Dark Of The Moon. (1138683)
Posted by Sky-Quake on October 22nd, 2010 @ 11:41am CDT

that's it F@#k it I'm out F@#k this movie and here I was expecting an intelligent movie instead they just make this another abomination

Re: Lorenzo Di Bonaventura: More Action And More Comedy In Transformers: The Dark Of The Moon. (1138686)
Posted by AutobotTrainer on October 22nd, 2010 @ 11:47am CDT

I think *edit*, and that Bay should just *edit* and all of you on here can go and *edit* yourselves. I just can't stand *edit* and if I have to *edit* one more time I'm just going to *edit* myself and then I'll show all of you that *edit* isn't worth *edit* until *edit* and *edit* *edit* *edit*

Take that you *edit*

...and another one

*edit*

Whew...I feel better. Sorry to offend, but I just had to speak my mind.

Re: Lorenzo Di Bonaventura: More Action And More Comedy In Transformers: The Dark Of The Moon. (1138688)
Posted by Sky-Quake on October 22nd, 2010 @ 11:55am CDT

this is just pure horse crap I should have known the asshole Bay would do something like this

Re: Lorenzo Di Bonaventura: More Action And More Comedy In Transformers: The Dark Of The Moon. (1138695)
Posted by Tytus on October 22nd, 2010 @ 12:23pm CDT

I'm okay with more humor- as long as it's actually funny. But not if it's fucking stupid and over-the-top like in ROTF.

But I get the sneaking suspicion "LOLZ MORE COMEDY" actually means "now with poop jokes!"

Re: Lorenzo Di Bonaventura: More Action And More Comedy In Transformers: The Dark Of The Moon. (1138700)
Posted by Nightwalker on October 22nd, 2010 @ 12:35pm CDT

I just hope that Bay's 'comedy' doesn't ruin the movie. Cuz that would really suck.

Re: Lorenzo Di Bonaventura: More Action And More Comedy In Transformers: The Dark Of The Moon. (1138702)
Posted by vulgar_wraith on October 22nd, 2010 @ 12:41pm CDT

I hate to say it but I have been with Transformers since the begining and it has never not been goofy.The only time I have ever seen serious is the import cartoons and dubbed shows suck. Then there is a few of the comics.Besides that TF has always been silly.The movie really improved the comedy compared to what I'm used to.I think the movie is the best thing to happen to motion pictures TF's.Bay's not perfect but i can only imagine these movies being way worse from someone else.I fear when bay is done the next movies they make will suck.Keep in mind this is still hasbro's baby and it will never get a rated R movie.Its will always be aimed mostly at children,there will always be humans and always be silly humor.Like all blockbuster movies ever made with a PG-Pg13 rating.I personally like the comedy.I Lamo when I saw Devestators balls and Wheelie humping legs.Kinda broke up the movie a little and made it fun.At the end of the day a fun movie is all I want.The first two Transformers are my favorite two movies ever.It was a child hood dream to see it like that.Only thing that can beat it is the third movie.Some of the haters need to lighten up just a bit.Go watch G1 then watch the movie tell me whats silly.

Re: Lorenzo Di Bonaventura: More Action And More Comedy In Transformers: The Dark Of The Moon. (1138722)
Posted by Megatron Wolf on October 22nd, 2010 @ 1:22pm CDT

First of all more action isnt going to save this movie, a good and well thought out story is. ROTF had some good battle scenes but the movie still sucked. Bays answer to every thing is more explosions & more action. Some times it works but not here. And more comedy from some one who has no clue how to incorporate comedy into these films, wonderful. Hopefully this time around he didnt go to a bunch of 9 year olds for comedic input. If these movies were ment for the kiddies they wouldnt be pg-13. Yeah sure keep some of the low brow humor its always funny at some points but dont rely on it. Oh and for the person who said Bay is better than Cameron, your an ass my friend and obviously know nothing about cinema. Cameron has had way better movies across his career than Bay has. Yes Bay has had a few good movies (none of which are the TF movies) but Cameron has had more and hes a much better director & writer.

Re: Lorenzo Di Bonaventura: More Action And More Comedy In Transformers: The Dark Of The Moon. (1138724)
Posted by Tytus on October 22nd, 2010 @ 1:28pm CDT

My problem is, the process by which he decided what was "funny" in the second movie seemed to entail going to a group of kids, saying a bunch of key words and observing which ones got the most giggles. And by the looks of it, "hump" and "balls" won out.

He can include humor in this movie without resorting to cheap and crude jokes. It just takes some creativity and taste. And I know his budget is big enough for that.

Besides, am I just crazy, or do I remember Bay stating that he was going to tone down the "stupid humor" this time around?

Edit:

Megatron Wolf wrote:First of all more action isnt going to save this movie, a good and well thought out story is. ROTF had some good battle scenes but the movie still sucked. Bays answer to every thing is more explosions & more action. Some times it works but not here. And more comedy from some one who has no clue how to incorporate comedy into these films, wonderful. Hopefully this time around he didnt go to a bunch of 9 year olds for comedic input. If these movies were ment for the kiddies they wouldnt be pg-13. Yeah sure keep some of the low brow humor its always funny at some points but dont rely on it. Oh and for the person who said Bay is better than Cameron, your an ass my friend and obviously know nothing about cinema. Cameron has had way better movies across his career than Bay has. Yes Bay has had a few good movies (none of which are the TF movies) but Cameron has had more and hes a much better director & writer.

Exactly. It's about quality, not quantity.

If something tastes bad, you don't just keep dumping salt on it.

Re: Lorenzo Di Bonaventura: More Action And More Comedy In Transformers: The Dark Of The Moon. (1138726)
Posted by SlyTF1 on October 22nd, 2010 @ 1:40pm CDT

Megatron Wolf wrote: Oh and for the person who said Bay is better than Cameron, your an ass my friend and obviously know nothing about cinema. Cameron has had way better movies across his career than Bay has. Yes Bay has had a few good movies (none of which are the TF movies) but Cameron has had more and hes a much better director & writer.

That doesnt mean shit. Some people who know about cinema and know that most people like a good story dont give a shit about story while they're watching a movie. Only when they make one, do they really care.

Re: Lorenzo Di Bonaventura: More Action And More Comedy In Transformers: The Dark Of The Moon. (1138728)
Posted by SlyTF1 on October 22nd, 2010 @ 1:47pm CDT

D-340 wrote:This is all what they pretty much had said prior to it's release. Ugh , I'm bettin' it's gonna be ROTF all over again. Why can't they do a film more along the lines of the first one. Oh well I guess, it'll make huge bank and keep Transformers relevant for years to come. But I got a huge feeling it's gonna be just as bad as ROTF.

Oh yeah, the lines of the first one, like: No story (At least ROTF tried!), Stupid humor (don't kid yourself, the first movie had almost as much of this as ROTF.), Robots who do nothing (just a bunch of soldiers shooting at air then when robots do fight you cant see shit because the camera is shaking and they always cut to humans running.), big boring ass sections of the movie (The whole movie has this big 1 hour spot where absolutly nothing happens!) like 2 robots through the whole movie (this is what people complained about in the first movie, then they complained that ROTF had too many robots.) A villain who AGAIN does shit until the last 5 minutes of the movie, a punk-ass Optimus who got his ass kicked, more military guys shooting shit, and Sam screaming "no, no, no" the whole got damn time! Dont get me wrong, I like the first one too, but I'm just saying.

Re: Lorenzo Di Bonaventura: More Action And More Comedy In Transformers: The Dark Of The Moon. (1138731)
Posted by Windsweeper on October 22nd, 2010 @ 1:57pm CDT

Before ROTF, I liked Bay's movies. I loved The Rock and TF1. Armaggedon and Bad Boys 1 were fun. They all had well executed humour. I mean I was sceptical with TF1 when I saw the robot designs but I went in hoping to have my fears put to rest and they were. I knew Bay could be funny but I was surprised as to how funny TF1 would be. Very pleasantly surprised. But it also had a story. But then came ROTF.

I was ready to leave the cinema after half an hour and left the film at the end fuming but I watched it a few more times with my expectations lowered and focussed on the good stuff, mainly the Decepticons.

It's a shame because the first TF film was great. It had a story. It was very funny and they couldn't have done Prime better.

What ruined ROTF for me was 4 things:

Leo

The robot designs for the Twins, Demolisher and Wheelie.

The poor comedy. I loved the parents in the first but they were annoying in the second.

The Jetfire/Seeker story seemed to be missing something.

Also, having enjoyed TF1 so much, I had high hopes for ROTF.

I do hope TF3 turns out well. I've liked a few of Bay's movies and I want to see a return to form. My main concern from the rumours is the more comedy coupled with a larger role for Leo. He was a terrible character, as annoying as Armada Carlos ever was.

Re: Lorenzo Di Bonaventura: More Action And More Comedy In Transformers: The Dark Of The Moon. (1138741)
Posted by Burn on October 22nd, 2010 @ 2:52pm CDT

Sky-Quake wrote:this is just pure horse crap I should have known the asshole Bay would do something like this

Watch the language please.

Oh and btw, Bay doesn't write the movies. Remember that next time you want to blame him for ruining your childhood.

Re: Lorenzo Di Bonaventura: More Action And More Comedy In Transformers: The Dark Of The Moon. (1138849)
Posted by Ravage XK on October 23rd, 2010 @ 12:56am CDT

More comedy huh? Will it be more along the lines of the crap we have had so far? Crass teenage jokes and terrible over acting? If these films are for kids then why jokes about humping dogs and robots with balls? I remember very little comedy from either film aimed at children.

As for 3D, its hard enough to keepp track of the action sequences in 2D when the robots are so close to the screen, though they did seem to ease that slightly in ROTF. Im not looking forward to being confused in 3D.

However, will wait until I actually see the film. Though I wont see it in 3D if I get the option and if that means waiting for the blu ray then so be it.

Re: Lorenzo Di Bonaventura: More Action And More Comedy In Transformers: The Dark Of The Moon. (1138918)
Posted by Robinson on October 23rd, 2010 @ 8:24am CDT

Sweet. this is exactly what the franchise needs.

Tf1 and 2 are cinematic classics. I thought it was inpossible to improve on cinematic perfection, but I was wrong.

Bring the rain!!! :grin:

!!!

Re: Lorenzo Di Bonaventura: More Action And More Comedy In Transformers: The Dark Of The Moon. (1138954)
Posted by SEXFIGHTER on October 23rd, 2010 @ 10:31am CDT

Robinson wrote:Sweet. this is exactly what the franchise needs.

Tf1 and 2 are cinematic classics. I thought it was inpossible to improve on cinematic perfection, but I was wrong.

Bring the rain!!! !!!

ha ha haa

Re: Lorenzo Di Bonaventura: More Action And More Comedy In Transformers: The Dark Of The Moon. (1138993)
Posted by Evil_the_Nub on October 23rd, 2010 @ 1:21pm CDT

It's been 16 months since RotF came out and some of you still can't stop trashing it. I've got a news flash for you guys, WE'VE HEARD IT ALL BEFORE! Let it go already.

Re: Lorenzo Di Bonaventura: More Action And More Comedy In Transformers: The Dark Of The Moon. (1138994)
Posted by SEXFIGHTER on October 23rd, 2010 @ 1:31pm CDT

Evil_the_Nub wrote:It's been 16 months since RotF came out and some of you still can't stop trashing it. I've got a news flash for you guys, WE'VE HEARD IT ALL BEFORE! Let it go already.

I'll happily shut my mouth and eat my own excrement if 3 delivers..and it actually MIGHT. Shockwave looks encouraging, its the comedic element that has us all worried.

Re: Lorenzo Di Bonaventura: More Action And More Comedy In Transformers: The Dark Of The Moon. (1138996)
Posted by Robinson on October 23rd, 2010 @ 1:38pm CDT

Evil_the_Nub wrote:It's been 16 months since RotF came out and some of you still can't stop trashing it. I've got a news flash for you guys, WE'VE HEARD IT ALL BEFORE! Let it go already.

Please dont take my post as trashing it.

I like both movies and enjoy the escapism they provide.

I just wanted to add to the thread, even tho it wasnt much.

Re: Lorenzo Di Bonaventura: More Action And More Comedy In Transformers: The Dark Of The Moon. (1139027)
Posted by zenosaurus_x on October 23rd, 2010 @ 4:33pm CDT

SEXFIGHTER wrote:its the comedic element that has us all worried.

It's not quite that, it's how it will be executed, I'm just hoping they execute it well.

Re: Lorenzo Di Bonaventura: More Action And More Comedy In Transformers: The Dark Of The Moon. (1139029)
Posted by SEXFIGHTER on October 23rd, 2010 @ 4:44pm CDT

well, just don't build the film around action set pieces and explosions... do it the other way round.

Re: Lorenzo Di Bonaventura: More Action And More Comedy In Transformers: The Dark Of The Moon. (1139042)
Posted by SlyTF1 on October 23rd, 2010 @ 6:52pm CDT

SEXFIGHTER wrote:well, just don't build the film around action set pieces and explosions... do it the other way round.

That would be a really sucky ass Transformers movie. I can see doing it for other movies, but movies about giant robots, no. Just no. That was my problem with Wall-E I hated that movie because it was about robots with no explosions.

Re: Lorenzo Di Bonaventura: More Action And More Comedy In Transformers: The Dark Of The Moon. (1139058)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on October 23rd, 2010 @ 9:23pm CDT

You're comparing WALL E to Transformers? The only thing they have in common is robots in the lead roles. The way WALL E turned out, it was brilliant. It was a movie with barely any dialogue, none by the main characters, IIRC. It was the best PIXAR movie made, with maybe The Incredibles coming close. Yeah, if your expectations were explosions then you might have been disappointed. But the story of WALL E was outstanding, even better than the first Transformers.

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Posted by zenosaurus_x on October 23rd, 2010 @ 10:37pm CDT

I found WallE Pixar's worst film, and I didn't go in expecting explosions as every single other Pixar movie I have loved(Toy Story even being my favorite movies ever)...but that really has nothing to do with TransFormers...

How I intereted the comment at debate is that they should focus more on the actual movie than just explosions...I think...

Re: Lorenzo Di Bonaventura: More Action And More Comedy In Transformers: The Dark Of The Moon. (1139094)
Posted by Autobot032 on October 24th, 2010 @ 2:09am CDT

SEXFIGHTER wrote:and eat my own excrement

...WTF? That's it for me. I'm done.

SlyTF1 wrote:
SEXFIGHTER wrote:well, just don't build the film around action set pieces and explosions... do it the other way round.

That would be a really sucky ass Transformers movie. I can see doing it for other movies, but movies about giant robots, no. Just no. That was my problem with Wall-E I hated that movie because it was about robots with no explosions.

I'm sorry to say it, but this is one time where you're wrong. Building a movie around explosions and special effects is a bad, bad way to make a movie, and we have proof of that in countless Hollywood flicks.

No, you build a story, and if it calls for explosions and what not, then you work them in, not the other way around. That's just silliness. That's not a movie, that's the world's longest music video, from Hell.

Wall-E wasn't supposed to be about explosions. It was about how self destructive humanity is, and seeing our situation through the eyes of another. A little robot that had more heart and more humanity than most people. His longing for companionship, people, and his child like sense of wonder as he ventures into the stars, is beautiful. Sometimes haunting, sometimes sad, but ultimately beautiful.

A movie like that doesn't need explosions. It needs heart, and it had a hell of a lot of it. Wall-E and TransFormers aren't even in the same realm. TransFormers couldn't hope to be.

And I loved ROTF, but it can't even be compared to Wall-E.

ROTF is a popcorn matinee. Wall-E is a classic.

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Posted by SEXFIGHTER on October 24th, 2010 @ 5:05am CDT

thats it exactly, HEART, you actually care about the little robot, it's GREAT moving storytelling. I dont think you could make Transformers that way, cos theres a lot more robots for a start, but story story STORY... that is what this medium was invented for, and directors, scriptwriters and actors all have a duty to deliver something other than just action. Even if it doesn't quite work, there can be beauty in just TRYING to reach for something more.

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Posted by syphonn on October 24th, 2010 @ 7:35am CDT

Albershide wrote:"According to di Bonaventura, director Michael Bay's use of 3D technology this time around will take the franchise to the next level.

"What you can expect is more comedy than we've ever had before" di Bonaventura revealed.

*Sigh* I can't say I'm surprised though --judging from the first two films this seems like his next logical step. Add 3D, the latest flavor of the day and more of everything else from the last two films.

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Posted by Rodimus Prime on October 24th, 2010 @ 8:02am CDT

Autobot032 wrote:ROTF is a popcorn matinee. Wall-E is a classic.

I don't agree with you on a lot, but that is QFT.

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Posted by SlyTF1 on October 24th, 2010 @ 9:18am CDT

Rodimus Prime wrote:You're comparing WALL E to Transformers? The only thing they have in common is robots in the lead roles. The way WALL E turned out, it was brilliant. It was a movie with barely any dialogue, none by the main characters, IIRC. It was the best PIXAR movie made, with maybe The Incredibles coming close. Yeah, if your expectations were explosions then you might have been disappointed. But the story of WALL E was outstanding, even better than the first Transformers.

I thought it was a stupid story. Its all bull. Robots created by humans have no emotions. They cant do any of that shit. When I see robots I want to see voilence and explosions. If I don't, I feel cheated out of my money. If you can combine a good story with a shitload of explosions, great. But just don't do it with robots. Except if Transformers took place on Cybertron, I think it's possible to have a good story and big explosions, solely because there are no humans to compare them to. Its kind of confusing, the way I think.

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Posted by SEXFIGHTER on October 24th, 2010 @ 9:33am CDT

A Cybertron story? lets have it. Do an all CGI, straight to DVD, adaptation of War Within, if that sells then do another, Target 2006 or something more recent. DC are doing these direct story adaptations and they're doing them pretty bloody well. Theres a whole untapped source there, Hasbro, take note. It won't hurt the live action movie-verse, quite the opposite.

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Posted by SEXFIGHTER on October 24th, 2010 @ 9:38am CDT

SEXFIGHTER wrote:A Cybertron story? lets have it. Do an all CGI, straight to DVD, adaptation of War Within, if that sells then do another, Target 2006 or something more recent. DC are doing these direct story adaptations and they're doing them pretty bloody well. Theres a whole untapped source there, Hasbro, take note. It won't hurt the live action movie-verse, quite the opposite.

I've just realised all these stories are tied up with different comic companies so could be a problem getting the rights to use these stories.

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Posted by SlyTF1 on October 24th, 2010 @ 12:22pm CDT

SEXFIGHTER wrote:A Cybertron story? lets have it. Do an all CGI, straight to DVD, adaptation of War Within, if that sells then do another, Target 2006 or something more recent. DC are doing these direct story adaptations and they're doing them pretty bloody well. Theres a whole untapped source there, Hasbro, take note. It won't hurt the live action movie-verse, quite the opposite.

It doesnt have to be straight to DVD. I'd perfer watching it in the theaters. That's part of what made me like the movies. If they where just strait to DVD, I wou;dn't like them nearly as much. Part of the experience for me when I watch the movies is remembering the first time I watched them in theaters.

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Posted by SEXFIGHTER on October 24th, 2010 @ 1:59pm CDT

SlyTF1 wrote:
SEXFIGHTER wrote:A Cybertron story? lets have it. Do an all CGI, straight to DVD, adaptation of War Within, if that sells then do another, Target 2006 or something more recent. DC are doing these direct story adaptations and they're doing them pretty bloody well. Theres a whole untapped source there, Hasbro, take note. It won't hurt the live action movie-verse, quite the opposite.

It doesnt have to be straight to DVD. I'd perfer watching it in the theaters. That's part of what made me like the movies. If they where just strait to DVD, I wou;dn't like them nearly as much. Part of the experience for me when I watch the movies is remembering the first time I watched them in theaters.

Yes but they wouldn't gamble on taking specific stories fans love and throwing 2 or 3 hundred million at them, and there'd be so many script rewrites in the end it wouldn't be the original. My way you could have 1 or 2 dvds out every 12 months, and Hasbro would recoup the smallish budget with a healthy profit on top. Movies take too long prepping.Hasbro and Paramount have created a whole new continuity anyway so it won't happen. Nolans continuity aint Superman/Batman Apocalypse,but thats great, im gettin spoilt rotten with all these stories and all this creative activity. Give us more to watch, spoil us.

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Posted by Prankmeister on October 24th, 2010 @ 3:00pm CDT

SlyTF1 wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:You're comparing WALL E to Transformers? The only thing they have in common is robots in the lead roles. The way WALL E turned out, it was brilliant. It was a movie with barely any dialogue, none by the main characters, IIRC. It was the best PIXAR movie made, with maybe The Incredibles coming close. Yeah, if your expectations were explosions then you might have been disappointed. But the story of WALL E was outstanding, even better than the first Transformers.

I thought it was a stupid story. Its all bull. Robots created by humans have no emotions. They cant do any of that shit. When I see robots I want to see voilence and explosions. If I don't, I feel cheated out of my money. If you can combine a good story with a shitload of explosions, great. But just don't do it with robots. Except if Transformers took place on Cybertron, I think it's possible to have a good story and big explosions, solely because there are no humans to compare them to. Its kind of confusing, the way I think.

There's a reason Wall-E is a fantasy movie and not meant to be realistic. You might as well argue that toys aren't actually alive, or monsters don't actually exist. Believing that just because it is a 'robot' means that it can't do anything but wage war is pretty convoluted, and limits the creative medium as a whole.

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Posted by SlyTF1 on October 24th, 2010 @ 3:04pm CDT

SEXFIGHTER wrote:
SlyTF1 wrote:
SEXFIGHTER wrote:A Cybertron story? lets have it. Do an all CGI, straight to DVD, adaptation of War Within, if that sells then do another, Target 2006 or something more recent. DC are doing these direct story adaptations and they're doing them pretty bloody well. Theres a whole untapped source there, Hasbro, take note. It won't hurt the live action movie-verse, quite the opposite.

It doesnt have to be straight to DVD. I'd perfer watching it in the theaters. That's part of what made me like the movies. If they where just strait to DVD, I wou;dn't like them nearly as much. Part of the experience for me when I watch the movies is remembering the first time I watched them in theaters.

Yes but they wouldn't gamble on taking specific stories fans love and throwing 2 or 3 hundred million at them, and there'd be so many script rewrites in the end it wouldn't be the original. My way you could have 1 or 2 dvds out every 12 months, and Hasbro would recoup the smallish budget with a healthy profit on top. Movies take too long prepping.Hasbro and Paramount have created a whole new continuity anyway so it won't happen. Nolans continuity aint Superman/Batman Apocalypse,but thats great, im gettin spoilt rotten with all these stories and all this creative activity. Give us more to watch, spoil us.

I didnt mean like a whole series. I just meant like a trilogy of movies set on Cybertron.

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Posted by Rodimus Prime on October 24th, 2010 @ 3:07pm CDT

SlyTF1 wrote:
Rodimus Prime wrote:You're comparing WALL E to Transformers? The only thing they have in common is robots in the lead roles. The way WALL E turned out, it was brilliant. It was a movie with barely any dialogue, none by the main characters, IIRC. It was the best PIXAR movie made, with maybe The Incredibles coming close. Yeah, if your expectations were explosions then you might have been disappointed. But the story of WALL E was outstanding, even better than the first Transformers.

I thought it was a stupid story. Its all bull.

And giant shape-shifting robots isn't? It's called having an imagination.

When I see robots I want to see violence and explosions. If I don't, I feel cheated out of my money. If you can combine a good story with a shitload of explosions, great. But just don't do it with robots.

OK, to each his own. If that's your taste in sentient robot movies, that's fine. I think WALL E was touching and at the same time had a good and sensible story, rooted in reality. What will happen to this planet, anyways. I am not a bleeding heart save-the-planet liberal but I think that's the way this place is headed.

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Posted by Burn on October 24th, 2010 @ 3:41pm CDT

Hey guys, guess what?

Sly's right, Sly's wrong, you're right, you're wrong.

He doesn't like Wall-E for his own reasons. Why are you trying to convince him he's wrong? If he doesn't like it he doesn't like it. Simple as that.

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Posted by Rodimus Prime on October 25th, 2010 @ 8:48am CDT

I wasn't trying to convince him of being wrong, I just stated an opinion of opposite view, and backed it up. He wasn't offended, was he?

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