New Images Comparing Earthrise Thundercracker and Skywarp with Siege and Classics Versions

That's Henkei! Henkei! Skywarp. Hasbro's Classics Skywarp had pink instead of purple.

The more I look at these, the more the ankle kibble on the ER figures bother me. I wonder if they're easily removable when in robot mode.

I hate to say it, but the classics have better paint jobs.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:You mean, even make a decent figure out of this guy:

This guy is basically a meme at this point about how gimmicks can ruin a figure.

I still kinda feel like a better mold is inevitable. Plus the only reason I'd get this pack is for Skywarp, and I kinda hate the face. And that pale purple has me wishing they went with that instead.

The gap at the top of the chest on the Earthrise versions kind ord bothers me, especially because the underside isn't painted, and it looks kind of messy.

YRQRM0 wrote:I still kinda feel like a better mold is inevitable. Plus the only reason I'd get this pack is for Skywarp, and I kinda hate the face. And that pale purple has me wishing they went with that instead.

I really hope the 3rd part of WFC won't include the seekers, because that would be just blatant trolling on Hasbro's part.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

YRQRM0 wrote:I still kinda feel like a better mold is inevitable. Plus the only reason I'd get this pack is for Skywarp, and I kinda hate the face. And that pale purple has me wishing they went with that instead.

I really hope the 3rd part of WFC won't include the seekers, because that would be just blatant trolling on Hasbro's part.

Part 3 will have slightly better Earth mode seekers and a slightly better G1 Optimus Prime.

Skritz wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

YRQRM0 wrote:I still kinda feel like a better mold is inevitable. Plus the only reason I'd get this pack is for Skywarp, and I kinda hate the face. And that pale purple has me wishing they went with that instead.

I really hope the 3rd part of WFC won't include the seekers, because that would be just blatant trolling on Hasbro's part.

Part 3 will have slightly better Earth mode seekers and a slightly better G1 Optimus Prime.

I will be a bit upset if that happens. They would be taking spots away from other characters that could have voyager figures. Like the Coneheads.

Skritz wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

YRQRM0 wrote:I still kinda feel like a better mold is inevitable. Plus the only reason I'd get this pack is for Skywarp, and I kinda hate the face. And that pale purple has me wishing they went with that instead.

I really hope the 3rd part of WFC won't include the seekers, because that would be just blatant trolling on Hasbro's part.

Part 3 will have slightly better Earth mode seekers and a slightly better G1 Optimus Prime.

and the next trilogy will have slightly better G1 figures than before only they will leave out a bunch of fan favorites

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Skritz wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

YRQRM0 wrote:I still kinda feel like a better mold is inevitable. Plus the only reason I'd get this pack is for Skywarp, and I kinda hate the face. And that pale purple has me wishing they went with that instead.

I really hope the 3rd part of WFC won't include the seekers, because that would be just blatant trolling on Hasbro's part.

Part 3 will have slightly better Earth mode seekers and a slightly better G1 Optimus Prime.

I will be a bit upset if that happens. They would be taking spots away from other characters that could have voyager figures. Like the Coneheads.

We are already getting the coneheads in earthrise

william-james88 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Skritz wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

YRQRM0 wrote:I still kinda feel like a better mold is inevitable. Plus the only reason I'd get this pack is for Skywarp, and I kinda hate the face. And that pale purple has me wishing they went with that instead.

I really hope the 3rd part of WFC won't include the seekers, because that would be just blatant trolling on Hasbro's part.

Part 3 will have slightly better Earth mode seekers and a slightly better G1 Optimus Prime.

I will be a bit upset if that happens. They would be taking spots away from other characters that could have voyager figures. Like the Coneheads.

We are already getting the coneheads in earthrise

Have they been announced? And I missed it?

Rodimus Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Skritz wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

YRQRM0 wrote:I still kinda feel like a better mold is inevitable. Plus the only reason I'd get this pack is for Skywarp, and I kinda hate the face. And that pale purple has me wishing they went with that instead.

I really hope the 3rd part of WFC won't include the seekers, because that would be just blatant trolling on Hasbro's part.

Part 3 will have slightly better Earth mode seekers and a slightly better G1 Optimus Prime.

I will be a bit upset if that happens. They would be taking spots away from other characters that could have voyager figures. Like the Coneheads.

We are already getting the coneheads in earthrise

Have they been announced? And I missed it?

Not officially announced, no, but some leaks that have proven accurate so far have mentioned them, and their jet forms can be seen on Sky Lynx's box art.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Skritz wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

YRQRM0 wrote:I still kinda feel like a better mold is inevitable. Plus the only reason I'd get this pack is for Skywarp, and I kinda hate the face. And that pale purple has me wishing they went with that instead.

I really hope the 3rd part of WFC won't include the seekers, because that would be just blatant trolling on Hasbro's part.

Part 3 will have slightly better Earth mode seekers and a slightly better G1 Optimus Prime.

I will be a bit upset if that happens. They would be taking spots away from other characters that could have voyager figures. Like the Coneheads.

We are already getting the coneheads in earthrise

Have they been announced? And I missed it?

There are lots of listings out there, look up Earthrise Thrust listing Seibertron on google.

Skritz wrote:Hm. The difference is indeed minor. Don't get me wrong they are completely different molds but the overall shape and proportions are nearly identical. While I'm skipping on the season 1 Seekers in their ER incarnation, I'm still down for some coneheads with that mold.

The Hasbro team had stated that the Siege seekers were based on the G1 cartoon official character models for robot mode proportions, so it makes sense that they would look the same regardless of alt modes.

Also I dont get how the Siege toys look better, I really dislike the wing underside in robot mode.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I saw that big ole showcase at my walmart, and finally saw Earthrise voyagers and deluxes for the first time!... but they only had Ironworks and Grapple, so I finally got Ironworks. Now to eventually find Wheeljack and I'll be done with wave 1

I found this wheeljack at walmart today, let me kbow if tou want it

Really excited for snapdragon I just got the seige apeface yay for horrorcons reunion and it feels so good lol. Not too sure about the alicon. It’s. Looks like the movie version but with the arms looks kinda lazy

Rodimus Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Skritz wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

YRQRM0 wrote:I still kinda feel like a better mold is inevitable. Plus the only reason I'd get this pack is for Skywarp, and I kinda hate the face. And that pale purple has me wishing they went with that instead.

I really hope the 3rd part of WFC won't include the seekers, because that would be just blatant trolling on Hasbro's part.

Part 3 will have slightly better Earth mode seekers and a slightly better G1 Optimus Prime.

I will be a bit upset if that happens. They would be taking spots away from other characters that could have voyager figures. Like the Coneheads.

We are already getting the coneheads in earthrise

Have they been announced? And I missed it?

Is this for real???

I don't think we have any 100% proof of any conehead...right? I could be completely wrong.

Frankly, I still feel like Fire Convoy should have been the Siege Retool of Ultra Magnus. So many of the parts come apart the same way and end up in very similar positions. Not that what we got wasnt a fun version of Cybertron Prime, but it didnt make as much sense to me aa Fire aconvoy would have. And I really want Fire Truck Optimus Prime.

Overload as a Weaponizer would be awesome, but given the "Leader" Primw would be more or less a Voyager with armor accessories, and the playlines value, I think he would have to be a Deluxe. Abd thatwould make him more compatible with other toys than if I was trying to make a Deluxe wear a pair of Voyager Legs as Guns.

Rodimus Knight wrote:I think it's cool that they found a way to create a base mode / launch platform for Skylynx, but I want to know, who is driving or walking up that steep of a ramp?

But Seriously, I'm really excited about this figure.

More important question: the Base Mode is for Planetfall... Where there is Gravity. But the Ahuttle is standing on end, so who is even getting INTO the thing that way?

You know, maybe a new Fire Convoy would actually share engineering or design cues from Siege Magnus, at least for how the armor attach. The front cab is definitely way too different to really work as a simple retool.

Skritz wrote:I don't think we have any 100% proof of any conehead...right? I could be completely wrong.

Thrust appears on the box art for SkyLynx...so the bigger question is, has any character shown in promo art not had a toy in that line in recent history?

o.supreme wrote:

Skritz wrote:I don't think we have any 100% proof of any conehead...right? I could be completely wrong.

Thrust appears on the box art for SkyLynx...so the bigger question is, has any character shown in promo art not had a toy in that line in recent history?

Uuuuh, not sure. Does Sideswipe count since he was in Siege but was on ER packaging yet, so far, there is no ER Sideswipe?

Skritz wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

Skritz wrote:I don't think we have any 100% proof of any conehead...right? I could be completely wrong.

Thrust appears on the box art for SkyLynx...so the bigger question is, has any character shown in promo art not had a toy in that line in recent history?

Uuuuh, not sure. Does Sideswipe count since he was in Siege but was on ER packaging yet, so far, there is no ER Sideswipe?

It was also specifically Siege Sideswipe on the ER packaging.

Maybe Galvatron is a Leader class figure since we have seen him on the packaging. Just a random theory as people expect him to be a Voyager. But what if he isn't?

Speaking of Sideswipe, the unique earthrise art of him we seen at toyfair still puzzles me. It looks like it’s based off MP-12 rather than the siege toy. It probably means nothing though in terms of a future release.

Flashwave wrote:Overload as a Weaponizer would be awesome, but given the "Leader" Primw would be more or less a Voyager with armor accessories, and the playlines value, I think he would have to be a Deluxe. Abd thatwould make him more compatible with other toys than if I was trying to make a Deluxe wear a pair of Voyager Legs as Guns.

I think that any attempt at Armada Prime would have to be either be a dense, complex Commander, or a more hollow and simple POTP style Leader. I could see a Rodimus Prime style trailer working as a base for Armada Prime's trailer, though obviously without the partsforming arms, and with the COMBAT ports added

Skritz wrote:I don't think we have any 100% proof of any conehead...right? I could be completely wrong.

We have a shelf tag of Thrust from Toysrus Canada. We newsed it.

I would not put it above Warden's team to have an Earthrise Sideswipe which is a lot more Lamborghini-esque and square/chunky to better fit alongside Sunstreaker. Ah well, no matter, it would make him and Red Alert look different!

Skritz wrote:Maybe Galvatron is a Leader class figure since we have seen him on the packaging. Just a random theory as people expect him to be a Voyager. But what if he isn't?

If he was a leader, would he be a voyager with unnecessary extra junk?

The only thing that's upsetting about these guys is that the cardinal sin was committed when it comes to seekers.... having the Deception logo upside down in robot mode on the wings. :'(
I'll probably just get stickers to fix that issue.

LordBludgeon wrote:The only thing that's upsetting about these guys is that the cardinal sin was committed when it comes to seekers.... having the Deception logo upside down in robot mode on the wings. :'(
I'll probably just get stickers to fix that issue.

Unfortunately (or fortunately depending on preference) it's Sunbow accurate

Currently of the opinion that all ER stuff awaiting production should be deferred in favor of reissuing the late-wave Titans Return figures except for Overlord, in ER packaging if necessary.

LordBludgeon wrote:The only thing that's upsetting about these guys is that the cardinal sin was committed when it comes to seekers.... having the Deception logo upside down in robot mode on the wings. :'(
I'll probably just get stickers to fix that issue.

Yeah, I'll go on-record as saying that I wouldn't mind if they didn't "fix" that inaccuracy.

Gotta say, while I like that they have different expressions I'm not a fan of a perpetually screaming TF.

UT remakes might be one of the best ways of Hasbro to keeping using the trademarks,without repeating the same versions of of those names.
An Armada Smokecreen or Cyclonus would be nice.Imagine how cool a new Scavenger would be.
I don't have much experience with the Energon line,but Wing Saber would be a pretty cool Weaponizer and CliffJumper looks cool.
Maybe even remake some figures that would welcome an upgrade like Cybertron Thunderblast.



Day 153 of waiting for Transformers Armada Masterpiece news.

Gotta say, while I like that they have different expressions I'm not a fan of a perpetually screaming TF.

I think it's the appropriate expression for Starscream. I might swap the heads if it's easily doable.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Currently of the opinion that all ER stuff awaiting production should be deferred in favor of reissuing the late-wave Titans Return figures except for Overlord, in ER packaging if necessary.

Which ones? And do you want them reissued because you were unable to get them?

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Gotta say, while I like that they have different expressions I'm not a fan of a perpetually screaming TF.

I think it's the appropriate expression for Starscream. I might swap the heads if it's easily doable.

Or, instead of yelling, Skywarp's head could be read as him laughing hysterically (after he just pushed someone down a flight of stairs).

Rodimus Prime wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Currently of the opinion that all ER stuff awaiting production should be deferred in favor of reissuing the late-wave Titans Return figures except for Overlord, in ER packaging if necessary.

Which ones? And do you want them reissued because you were unable to get them?

A two-pack of TR Topspin & Twin Twist would be nice. Add some red Battlemasters and you're set.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Skritz wrote:Maybe Galvatron is a Leader class figure since we have seen him on the packaging. Just a random theory as people expect him to be a Voyager. But what if he isn't?

If he was a leader, would he be a voyager with unnecessary extra junk?

I imagine he would follow the Doubledealer route and just be a more elaborate, chunkier figure with a few extra weapons. DD isn't quite a Voyager in a big box like Astrotrain is.



Galvatron should get the same treatment, but maybe replace the Titans Return figure's spacecraft mode with a "submarine". Either way, if they can make a more elaborate figure at a good scale size he could work as a Leader.

However, my own belief is that they'll make him a Voyager with just the canon mode. Of even more boring, a retool of Megatron.

Gauntlet101010 wrote:Gotta say, while I like that they have different expressions I'm not a fan of a perpetually screaming TF.

Are you sure he's screaming? Maybe it's just dull surprise.

By the way, I think it would be possible to make a nice and still recognizable Armada Side Swipe out of Prime Wars Trilogy Punch/Counterpunch with new arms and head and replacing the Counterpunch fake window chest with a toy accurate one.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:my own belief is that they'll make him a Voyager with just the canon mode.

Which is what the TR figure should have been.

Of even more boring, a retool of Megatron.

Yeah, I think that's what's gonna happen. I'm not sure how exactly, because if they want to be faithful to G1 Galvatron, an H-tank will not work.

Got my first earthrise deluxes and half a deluxe figure today :p

Weirdly I've passed on wheeljack with not liking the square chest shape in bot mode and the way the windshield is pieced together in car mode. Might have to go with a smaller third party wheeljack that looks good in both modes as I can't see any upgrade packs being able to sort Hasbros out.

ER seeker mold's proportion is just too chubby Playskool-ish for me. It's even worse than the old Classics DLX mold. Even though I wish its alt mode is the F-15 instead of the Tetrajet, I just plain LOVE the Siege mold's articulation, I just can't imagine Hasbro can ever top it in that regards. So ER seekers are an easy pass unless Hasbro announce the Coneheads, characters which I never owned.

And it's gotta be all 3 Coneheads or bust.

On the subject of a possible Galvatron - I don't see why it wouldn't be a very accurate Galvatron. They've really gone out of their way to make the most accurate G1-inspired toys to date. Even if they aren't all successes (Astrotrain, I am looking at you).

How odd, my notifications for this topic stopped working Wondered why it had been quiet today. On the subject of Galvatron, I reckon we'll get him in the final part as it would have been around when Unicron is finished, seems like good timing to me.

I feel like I am the only one that actually liked what they went for with potp rodimus and to an extent the resulting figure, and think that it would be cool to see that design spiffed up and reworked under the new increased budget and leader class criteria

Hellscream9999 wrote:I feel like I am the only one that actually liked what they went for with potp rodimus and to an extent the resulting figure, and think that it would be cool to see that design spiffed up and reworked under the new increased budget and leader class criteria

While I loved that mold and gimmick, I would rather they do the definitive G1 Rodimus Prime, and try to finish up as many "definitive" G1 characters as soon as possible, simply so we could then move on to less Sunbow, more unique designs that still homage the originals, but add a new flavor to it, like Animated, IDW, and to an extent UT

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:I feel like I am the only one that actually liked what they went for with potp rodimus and to an extent the resulting figure, and think that it would be cool to see that design spiffed up and reworked under the new increased budget and leader class criteria

While I loved that mold and gimmick, I would rather they do the definitive G1 Rodimus Prime, and try to finish up as many "definitive" G1 characters as soon as possible, simply so we could then move on to less Sunbow, more unique designs that still homage the originals, but add a new flavor to it, like Animated, IDW, and to an extent UT

I feel like the irony here is that in a line where everybody's complaining because leader class is Voyager figures with trailer accessories, what you're asking for here is a voyager figure with trailer accessories.

Flashwave wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:I feel like I am the only one that actually liked what they went for with potp rodimus and to an extent the resulting figure, and think that it would be cool to see that design spiffed up and reworked under the new increased budget and leader class criteria

While I loved that mold and gimmick, I would rather they do the definitive G1 Rodimus Prime, and try to finish up as many "definitive" G1 characters as soon as possible, simply so we could then move on to less Sunbow, more unique designs that still homage the originals, but add a new flavor to it, like Animated, IDW, and to an extent UT

I feel like the irony here is that in a line where everybody's complaining because leader class is Voyager figures with trailer accessories, what you're asking for here is a voyager figure with trailer accessories.

For the record, I've loved the leader class figures in the wfc line

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Flashwave wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:I feel like I am the only one that actually liked what they went for with potp rodimus and to an extent the resulting figure, and think that it would be cool to see that design spiffed up and reworked under the new increased budget and leader class criteria

While I loved that mold and gimmick, I would rather they do the definitive G1 Rodimus Prime, and try to finish up as many "definitive" G1 characters as soon as possible, simply so we could then move on to less Sunbow, more unique designs that still homage the originals, but add a new flavor to it, like Animated, IDW, and to an extent UT

I feel like the irony here is that in a line where everybody's complaining because leader class is Voyager figures with trailer accessories, what you're asking for here is a voyager figure with trailer accessories.

For the record, I've loved the leader class figures in the wfc line

Honestly, I have to. I totally do a really cool space Winnebago theme parks count as leader class Optimus Prime

Hellscream9999 wrote:I feel like I am the only one that actually liked what they went for with potp rodimus and to an extent the resulting figure, and think that it would be cool to see that design spiffed up and reworked under the new increased budget and leader class criteria

They would have to do something with the shoulders, cause having the legs as shoulders is a little funky.

Naw, a gimmick-less CHUG Rodimus need its own mold. Preferably with the proper, snub nosed Space Winnebago mode rather than just Hot Rod with a trailer.