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Comment by Lockdownhunter
Mar 16, 2015
Underbite looks cool!He looks more like a pitbull than a hyena.BTW,the legion underbite looks great but the one-step changer underbite is just OK.
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Comment by Sabrblade
Mar 16, 2015
That new opening, called "Save the Future", mixes existing footage from the cartoon with all new original footage created by the Japanese especially for this opening. Said new footage includes those Decepticon and Autobot group shots and that dynamic shot of Bumblebee shown before the finl group shot at the end.
That new ending, which is utterly silly, is wholly Japanese in origin, with all of its dancing sequence animation being a Japanese product.
That new ending, which is utterly silly, is wholly Japanese in origin, with all of its dancing sequence animation being a Japanese product.
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Comment by Cobotron
Mar 16, 2015
The end credits sequence is ridiculous and hilarious. 

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Comment by Madeus Prime
Mar 16, 2015
Oooohhhkkaaaay....Well, almost as nutso as Gokaiger's ending theme
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Comment by Sabrblade
Mar 16, 2015
Japan does love silly ending sequences.Madeus Prime wrote:Oooohhhkkaaaay....Well, almost as nutso as Gokaiger's ending theme

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You have to check this commercial then:
Comment by william-james88
Mar 16, 2015
Cobotron wrote:The end credits sequence is ridiculous and hilarious.
You have to check this commercial then:
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Comment by Sabrblade
Mar 16, 2015
And this, the Song of BeCool:william-james88 wrote:Cobotron wrote:The end credits sequence is ridiculous and hilarious.
You have to check this commercial then:
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You say silly, I say fun
Seems to be an ominous shadowy figure behind the cons there. Would that be the'boss' Terrashock tried to contact?
Y'know what I'd like? If this show gave us a Decepticon leader like Skrash. These obscure leaders and names need some love.
Comment by hinomars19
Mar 16, 2015
Sabrblade wrote:Japan does love silly ending sequences.Madeus Prime wrote:Oooohhhkkaaaay....Well, almost as nutso as Gokaiger's ending theme
You say silly, I say fun

Seems to be an ominous shadowy figure behind the cons there. Would that be the'boss' Terrashock tried to contact?
Y'know what I'd like? If this show gave us a Decepticon leader like Skrash. These obscure leaders and names need some love.
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I bet its that Megatronus character that we know is getting a toy.
Comment by william-james88
Mar 16, 2015
hinomars19 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Japan does love silly ending sequences.Madeus Prime wrote:Oooohhhkkaaaay....Well, almost as nutso as Gokaiger's ending theme
You say silly, I say fun
Seems to be an ominous shadowy figure behind the cons there. Would that be the'boss' Terrashock tried to contact?
Y'know what I'd like? If this show gave us a Decepticon leader like Skrash. These obscure leaders and names need some love.
I bet its that Megatronus character that we know is getting a toy.
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Comment by PrymeStriker
Mar 16, 2015
Didn't even know Episode 9 was up. Wow...okay.
So, "Rumble in the Jungle" was a nice episode. Fairly solid theme that crosses both of its subplots. Springload was annoying as fuck, but I didn't expect him to be very interesting. Overall, a nice band of episodes these past couple of weeks. The show's definitely improving from its lackluster pilot. I didn't talk too much about "True Colors," but I did like that episode as well. It was especially nice to see Steeljaw's arc developing, though I would like a solid focus on them soon.
Next week, Jazz!

So, "Rumble in the Jungle" was a nice episode. Fairly solid theme that crosses both of its subplots. Springload was annoying as fuck, but I didn't expect him to be very interesting. Overall, a nice band of episodes these past couple of weeks. The show's definitely improving from its lackluster pilot. I didn't talk too much about "True Colors," but I did like that episode as well. It was especially nice to see Steeljaw's arc developing, though I would like a solid focus on them soon.
Next week, Jazz!




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Comment by Sabrblade
Mar 16, 2015
Who says "silly" can't be fun?hinomars19 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Japan does love silly ending sequences.Madeus Prime wrote:Oooohhhkkaaaay....Well, almost as nutso as Gokaiger's ending theme
You say silly, I say fun![]()

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Comment by Dead Metal
Mar 16, 2015
So I decided to watch the two pilot parts.
As a stand alone show it's OK, looks fun, but as the follow up to TFPrime it sucks.
The animation is still incredibly ugly and choppy, it looks like one of those shitty Steam games people play on youtube. The frame-rate is atrocious and the cell shading effect looks more like it's supposed to hide crappy low grade models and a nonexistent budget rather than an actual style.
The world and comedy absolutely do not fit in with the feel and atmosphere of Prime. The writing is OK, not as good as Prime, but serviceable. Again, as a stand alone show it's OK, but the fact that this is supposed to be the follow up to Prime just drags it down.
Grimlock should be renamed, that's not Grimlock, not only does he share no visuals cues (other than maybe the shoulders) with Aligned Grimlock, but he is a completely separate character. Yeah, sure he's a "Dinobot", but he doesn't fit his depiction in FOC or the Prime comics. In those he's an angry warrior who has problems thinking straight, and never backs down, someone who's life's been completely ruined and devastated and can'T go back. This guy here, is a more kid-friendly and toned down DBZ Abridged Goku. He's too cheerful and friendly, and not as violent or determined.
Sideswipe also does not fit with his previous incarnation.
The stuff loved about Prime has been completely stripped from this show, gone is the fantastic animation, the great atmosphere, the lovingly crafted world and models. Seriously, it looks like more work was put into TFPrime's Cliffjumper model than the entirety of these two episodes.
I went into this with the same skeptic mindset and prejudice I had going into Animated and Prime, but while the pilots for those shows won me over almost imminently, this completely put me off of the show for good. I'll be sitting this one out completely. The Covenant of Primus already disappointed me, but this show just completely proved to me that Hasbro was talking out of their asses when they stated they'll have an overarching continuity.
As a stand alone show it's OK, looks fun, but as the follow up to TFPrime it sucks.
The animation is still incredibly ugly and choppy, it looks like one of those shitty Steam games people play on youtube. The frame-rate is atrocious and the cell shading effect looks more like it's supposed to hide crappy low grade models and a nonexistent budget rather than an actual style.
The world and comedy absolutely do not fit in with the feel and atmosphere of Prime. The writing is OK, not as good as Prime, but serviceable. Again, as a stand alone show it's OK, but the fact that this is supposed to be the follow up to Prime just drags it down.
Grimlock should be renamed, that's not Grimlock, not only does he share no visuals cues (other than maybe the shoulders) with Aligned Grimlock, but he is a completely separate character. Yeah, sure he's a "Dinobot", but he doesn't fit his depiction in FOC or the Prime comics. In those he's an angry warrior who has problems thinking straight, and never backs down, someone who's life's been completely ruined and devastated and can'T go back. This guy here, is a more kid-friendly and toned down DBZ Abridged Goku. He's too cheerful and friendly, and not as violent or determined.
Sideswipe also does not fit with his previous incarnation.
The stuff loved about Prime has been completely stripped from this show, gone is the fantastic animation, the great atmosphere, the lovingly crafted world and models. Seriously, it looks like more work was put into TFPrime's Cliffjumper model than the entirety of these two episodes.
I went into this with the same skeptic mindset and prejudice I had going into Animated and Prime, but while the pilots for those shows won me over almost imminently, this completely put me off of the show for good. I'll be sitting this one out completely. The Covenant of Primus already disappointed me, but this show just completely proved to me that Hasbro was talking out of their asses when they stated they'll have an overarching continuity.
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Comment by PrymeStriker
Mar 16, 2015
Okay, I just watched that Japanese ending sequence...
...the dancing alone had me chuckling a bit...
...but when Optimus jumped in and started dancing too, I couldn't. I just couldn't. I was dying. Laughing to tears. Just...I've gotta watch that again.
...the dancing alone had me chuckling a bit...
...but when Optimus jumped in and started dancing too, I couldn't. I just couldn't. I was dying. Laughing to tears. Just...I've gotta watch that again.
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Comment by Darth Jumpy
Mar 16, 2015
The ending credits are great. More things should end in dance numbers.
That shadow really looked like it had Galvatron's crown, so that has gotten me more excited for the series. I just hope it isn't some random shadow they stuck in there.
As for my thoughts on the series, I liked it. I think all of the story hooks set up in the first 2 episodes are interesting, and I really hope all of them are followed up.
I kinda hope that RID Grimlock is a different guy than the FOC one. This is less because they act completely differently (not to mention belonging to different factions) and more because I want to see a Grimlock vs. Grimlock fight. I think that we may see an explanation like this somewhere, if not in the show, then maybe in some IDW project to keep their Prime comics in continuity.
That shadow really looked like it had Galvatron's crown, so that has gotten me more excited for the series. I just hope it isn't some random shadow they stuck in there.
As for my thoughts on the series, I liked it. I think all of the story hooks set up in the first 2 episodes are interesting, and I really hope all of them are followed up.
I kinda hope that RID Grimlock is a different guy than the FOC one. This is less because they act completely differently (not to mention belonging to different factions) and more because I want to see a Grimlock vs. Grimlock fight. I think that we may see an explanation like this somewhere, if not in the show, then maybe in some IDW project to keep their Prime comics in continuity.
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Touché, sir, touché.
I agree with pretty much everything you said, albeit I don't think (for me) the tone being different to Prime is what separates it. What irritates me in regards to it being a sequel is all the world building has been lost. Megatron erected a giant tower in the middle of a city, yet now humans still act unaware of the existence of Transformers, and we have to maintain the disguise shtick? This is clearly a marketing gimmick, both for the toys and the show. Aside from a few superficial allusions from 'Bee, from a marketing stand point, Hasbro wants this to read like a stand alone, so kids don't feel alienated. For all intents and purposes right now, this show might as well be a re-boot, and I'm tired of re-boots. (Prime being 'dead' notwithstanding, but still...)
As for the overarching continuity from Hasbro? They were talking out their arses from the start on that. For me, WFC was it's own entity, which shows with all the shoehorning and retconning FOC had to do. I've seen the discussions on this, and whilst you could argue timelines within a continuity (G1 for example had; sunbow cartoon, Japanese cartoon, Marvel, marvel UK, Japanese manga etc) It just doesn't feel like it applies here.
Hasbro are saying jump, thinking we'll ask how high. It's a thin veil they don't want us to admit we can see through. Continuity doesn't take much. You don't need mind bending sci-fi or Shakespearean writing to maintain a universe across platforms. They don't want to bother. This aligned thing is nothing more than another marketing gimmick aimed at us, because they know kids will neither notice nor care.
Comment by hinomars19
Mar 16, 2015
Sabrblade wrote:Who says "silly" can't be fun?hinomars19 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Japan does love silly ending sequences.Madeus Prime wrote:Oooohhhkkaaaay....Well, almost as nutso as Gokaiger's ending theme
You say silly, I say fun![]()
Touché, sir, touché.

Dead Metal wrote:Hasbro was talking out of their asses when they stated they'll have an overarching continuity.
I agree with pretty much everything you said, albeit I don't think (for me) the tone being different to Prime is what separates it. What irritates me in regards to it being a sequel is all the world building has been lost. Megatron erected a giant tower in the middle of a city, yet now humans still act unaware of the existence of Transformers, and we have to maintain the disguise shtick? This is clearly a marketing gimmick, both for the toys and the show. Aside from a few superficial allusions from 'Bee, from a marketing stand point, Hasbro wants this to read like a stand alone, so kids don't feel alienated. For all intents and purposes right now, this show might as well be a re-boot, and I'm tired of re-boots. (Prime being 'dead' notwithstanding, but still...)
As for the overarching continuity from Hasbro? They were talking out their arses from the start on that. For me, WFC was it's own entity, which shows with all the shoehorning and retconning FOC had to do. I've seen the discussions on this, and whilst you could argue timelines within a continuity (G1 for example had; sunbow cartoon, Japanese cartoon, Marvel, marvel UK, Japanese manga etc) It just doesn't feel like it applies here.
Hasbro are saying jump, thinking we'll ask how high. It's a thin veil they don't want us to admit we can see through. Continuity doesn't take much. You don't need mind bending sci-fi or Shakespearean writing to maintain a universe across platforms. They don't want to bother. This aligned thing is nothing more than another marketing gimmick aimed at us, because they know kids will neither notice nor care.
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No, he erected a giant tower by Autobot HQ in the middle of a desert. Jasper was evacuated before any civilians could see Darkmount.
Crown City, near where Russel and Denny live, is likely states away from Jasper, Nevada. How would they know/care about the kept-under-wraps events of a terribly low-populated truck stop?
Yes, because out of the billions of people on the planet, there are under twenty that have ever seen a Cybertronian.
Get used to it. Robots in Disguise has been the franchise gimmick for 30 years.
inb4 characters from Prime returning in season two...
Comment by PrymeStriker
Mar 16, 2015
hinomars19 wrote:Megatron erected a giant tower in the middle of a city,
No, he erected a giant tower by Autobot HQ in the middle of a desert. Jasper was evacuated before any civilians could see Darkmount.
yet now humans still act unaware of the existence of Transformers,
Crown City, near where Russel and Denny live, is likely states away from Jasper, Nevada. How would they know/care about the kept-under-wraps events of a terribly low-populated truck stop?

and we have to maintain the disguise shtick?
Yes, because out of the billions of people on the planet, there are under twenty that have ever seen a Cybertronian.
This is clearly a marketing gimmick, both for the toys and the show.
Get used to it. Robots in Disguise has been the franchise gimmick for 30 years.

Aside from a few superficial allusions from 'Bee, from a marketing stand point, Hasbro wants this to read like a stand alone, so kids don't feel alienated. For all intents and purposes right now, this show might as well be a re-boot, and I'm tired of re-boots. (Prime being 'dead' notwithstanding, but still...)
inb4 characters from Prime returning in season two...
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I've never heard of Skrash. I've tried looking him up but I can't find any page that describes him. What kind of character is he?
Looking at the animation at RID15 I think it's actually cool if you accept it for what it is. It's trying to go a style that's similar to that of Tron Uprising which I think in some respect it does rather well in capturing a cell shaded look. I know it's not to be appealing to everyone but I like it all the same.
I don't get this. This is a show about Bumblebee's role and arc as being a leader and Bee's normally known to have a friendly light hearted character so why shouldn't the show reflect that? The reason why Prime has a more dark tone was because Optimus is a much more serious minded character that's been through a lot during the war. Bee despite being in the war doesn't have the same personalty and characteristics as Optimus and really he shouldn't be. I can understand this reaction more had Prime suddenly took on a more light hearted approach during it's production but it didn't. I say it's good that RID15 isn't as dark because it wants to be it's own thing despite being connected to Prime.
Seeing as how FOC Grimlock's story ended in FOC who's to say that somehow before RID15 Grimlock lost his memories and got some upgrades and somehow got recruited as a Decepticon before the events of RID15 where he became an Autobot again? The show didn't explain yet where Grimlock came from so the history I've mentioned is possible.
What was Sideswipe's previous incarnation in the Aligned universe like exactly? Because I don't recall him doing much other then in FOC being a pilot. Also there's a possiblity of RID15 Sideswipe just sharing his name which is pretty common in IDW.
Comment by kaijuguy19
Mar 16, 2015
hinomars19 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Japan does love silly ending sequences.Madeus Prime wrote:Oooohhhkkaaaay....Well, almost as nutso as Gokaiger's ending theme
You say silly, I say fun
Seems to be an ominous shadowy figure behind the cons there. Would that be the'boss' Terrashock tried to contact?
Y'know what I'd like? If this show gave us a Decepticon leader like Skrash. These obscure leaders and names need some love.
I've never heard of Skrash. I've tried looking him up but I can't find any page that describes him. What kind of character is he?
Dead Metal wrote:So I decided to watch the two pilot parts.
As a stand alone show it's OK, looks fun, but as the follow up to TFPrime it sucks.
The animation is still incredibly ugly and choppy, it looks like one of those shitty Steam games people play on youtube. The frame-rate is atrocious and the cell shading effect looks more like it's supposed to hide crappy low grade models and a nonexistent budget rather than an actual style.
Looking at the animation at RID15 I think it's actually cool if you accept it for what it is. It's trying to go a style that's similar to that of Tron Uprising which I think in some respect it does rather well in capturing a cell shaded look. I know it's not to be appealing to everyone but I like it all the same.
Dead Metal wrote:The world and comedy absolutely do not fit in with the feel and atmosphere of Prime. The writing is OK, not as good as Prime, but serviceable. Again, as a stand alone show it's OK, but the fact that this is supposed to be the follow up to Prime just drags it down.
I don't get this. This is a show about Bumblebee's role and arc as being a leader and Bee's normally known to have a friendly light hearted character so why shouldn't the show reflect that? The reason why Prime has a more dark tone was because Optimus is a much more serious minded character that's been through a lot during the war. Bee despite being in the war doesn't have the same personalty and characteristics as Optimus and really he shouldn't be. I can understand this reaction more had Prime suddenly took on a more light hearted approach during it's production but it didn't. I say it's good that RID15 isn't as dark because it wants to be it's own thing despite being connected to Prime.
Dead Metal wrote:Grimlock should be renamed, that's not Grimlock, not only does he share no visuals cues (other than maybe the shoulders) with Aligned Grimlock, but he is a completely separate character. Yeah, sure he's a "Dinobot", but he doesn't fit his depiction in FOC or the Prime comics. In those he's an angry warrior who has problems thinking straight, and never backs down, someone who's life's been completely ruined and devastated and can'T go back. This guy here, is a more kid-friendly and toned down DBZ Abridged Goku. He's too cheerful and friendly, and not as violent or determined.
Seeing as how FOC Grimlock's story ended in FOC who's to say that somehow before RID15 Grimlock lost his memories and got some upgrades and somehow got recruited as a Decepticon before the events of RID15 where he became an Autobot again? The show didn't explain yet where Grimlock came from so the history I've mentioned is possible.
Dead Metal wrote:Sideswipe also does not fit with his previous incarnation.
What was Sideswipe's previous incarnation in the Aligned universe like exactly? Because I don't recall him doing much other then in FOC being a pilot. Also there's a possiblity of RID15 Sideswipe just sharing his name which is pretty common in IDW.
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- http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Scrash_(OC)
Comment by Sabrblade
Mar 16, 2015
That's because his name was misspelled.kaijuguy19 wrote:hinomars19 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Japan does love silly ending sequences.Madeus Prime wrote:Oooohhhkkaaaay....Well, almost as nutso as Gokaiger's ending theme
You say silly, I say fun
Seems to be an ominous shadowy figure behind the cons there. Would that be the'boss' Terrashock tried to contact?
Y'know what I'd like? If this show gave us a Decepticon leader like Skrash. These obscure leaders and names need some love.
I've never heard of Skrash. I've tried looking him up but I can't find any page that describes him.

While I agree that we should wait and be patient to see what kind of story this show will tell about Grimlock, the Grimlock that we saw in FOC didn't have his story end in that game. His story continued in the Rage of the Dinobots and Beast Hunters comics, in which we saw him live all the way to the present day of the Prime cartoon, and even saw him reunite with Team Prime after the events of Predacons Rising. But since we do have the author of those comics, Mairghread Scott, also working as part of the production team of this show, we'll just have to wait and see what will become of Grimlock in this show.kaijuguy19 wrote:Seeing as how FOC Grimlock's story ended in FOC who's to say that somehow before RID15 Grimlock lost his memories and got some upgrades and somehow got recruited as a Decepticon before the events of RID15 where he became an Autobot again? The show didn't explain yet where Grimlock came from so the history I've mentioned is possible.
Sideswipe was also in WFC, in which he was pretty much like his RID counterpart, but less of a delinquent and more of a wise guy. Though, in the games, Sideswipe acted like he was older than Bumblebee, while this show, Sideswipe is said to be younger than Bumblebee. So either Bee aged faster than Sideswipe, or this could be a new Sideswipe born from the Well after Predacons Rising.kaijuguy19 wrote:Dead Metal wrote:Sideswipe also does not fit with his previous incarnation.
What was Sideswipe's previous incarnation in the Aligned universe like exactly? Because I don't recall him doing much other then in FOC being a pilot.
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Whoops, yes messed up on the tower thing. You are right, everything you've said makes sense, but where is the fun in that?
I couldn't care less if he erected it in the darkest corner of area 51, after all the events of Prime it is boring and tirelessly repetitive to keep insisting people don't know these giant robots are on their planet in a continued universe. I'm tired of this franchise running back to it's roots every ten minutes. Every few years, sure, the original RiD toyline did it, the movie verse did it, unicron trilogy etc, but that's reboots. RID isn't a reboot, so how about mixing it up a bit? Just because it makes sense doesn't mean they can't be creative now, does it?
And I don't need to 'get used to it' G1 survived and that broke the disguises within it's first 2 seasons. The movie universe have kept the disguise thing working even in a world fully aware of cybertronians. Being in disguise works, yes it's great for being incognito for missions or certain situations, it worked for Soundwave in DOTM even though TF's were common knowledge at that point-but to keep banging it's head against the same frickin' wall of 'oh no, hide from the humans....shhhh, they don't know we're here...' Really? In a series that follows the events of a giant metal dragon flying around? Jasper, Nevada may not be the center of the world, but surely it can't be kept THAT secret??
Everything you've said makes sense, but I don't agree it needs to stick to it like glue. It's one of the things that really, really irritates me about the show so far. Can't we meet a human that knows of these guys? Maybe saw a blurry pic in a newspaper, or a news broadcast about the events in the dessert? To be so blissfully unaware....that's not good world building. Maybe it's'accurate' given the evidence, but it's sure as hell ain't interesting writing. You could have said the exact same thing about Armada, but Energon chose to go with common sense and said within the ten year gap the world we saw in Armada evolved due to the existence of these beings being on the planet.
I stick by what I said, blatant, lazy, boring marketing gimmick. The world they should be building is being reset to it's foundations every other brick they lay. Pointless.
I'm not asking for Jack, Miko and Raf to come running in just to prove it's a sequel. But Dead Metal is right, this thing is too dis-separate. And we know why, because Hasbro knows it doesn't have to try. People will defend what they say as gospel regardless, tie any thread they can together no matter how flimsy just so Hasbro can still be believed. We all know RID is a sequel to Prime, but would it kill them to keep that feeling in their product regardless?
Grimlock already exists in the aligned universe, but they don't care. They threw the name at a T-rex because marketing. AOE is still fresh in people's minds and they ditch character and world building for cheap cash grabs. 'Grimlock' could've been named anything (I get the RiD reference, btw) a truly new character could've been made. Now he's just stuck under the stigma of a pointless, irrelevant to his very self, name. Can these 'inconsistencies' be reconciled? Probably.(hoorah for IDW) But that's not really an excuse, to be fair, not when you claim your mission is to build a universe or continuity.
Comment by hinomars19
Mar 16, 2015
PrymeStriker wrote:hinomars19 wrote:Megatron erected a giant tower in the middle of a city,
No, he erected a giant tower by Autobot HQ in the middle of a desert. Jasper was evacuated before any civilians could see Darkmount.yet now humans still act unaware of the existence of Transformers,
Crown City, near where Russel and Denny live, is likely states away from Jasper, Nevada. How would they know/care about the kept-under-wraps events of a terribly low-populated truck stop?and we have to maintain the disguise shtick?
Yes, because out of the billions of people on the planet, there are under twenty that have ever seen a Cybertronian.This is clearly a marketing gimmick, both for the toys and the show.
Get used to it. Robots in Disguise has been the franchise gimmick for 30 years.
Aside from a few superficial allusions from 'Bee, from a marketing stand point, Hasbro wants this to read like a stand alone, so kids don't feel alienated. For all intents and purposes right now, this show might as well be a re-boot, and I'm tired of re-boots. (Prime being 'dead' notwithstanding, but still...)
inb4 characters from Prime returning in season two...
Whoops, yes messed up on the tower thing. You are right, everything you've said makes sense, but where is the fun in that?
I couldn't care less if he erected it in the darkest corner of area 51, after all the events of Prime it is boring and tirelessly repetitive to keep insisting people don't know these giant robots are on their planet in a continued universe. I'm tired of this franchise running back to it's roots every ten minutes. Every few years, sure, the original RiD toyline did it, the movie verse did it, unicron trilogy etc, but that's reboots. RID isn't a reboot, so how about mixing it up a bit? Just because it makes sense doesn't mean they can't be creative now, does it?
And I don't need to 'get used to it' G1 survived and that broke the disguises within it's first 2 seasons. The movie universe have kept the disguise thing working even in a world fully aware of cybertronians. Being in disguise works, yes it's great for being incognito for missions or certain situations, it worked for Soundwave in DOTM even though TF's were common knowledge at that point-but to keep banging it's head against the same frickin' wall of 'oh no, hide from the humans....shhhh, they don't know we're here...' Really? In a series that follows the events of a giant metal dragon flying around? Jasper, Nevada may not be the center of the world, but surely it can't be kept THAT secret??
Everything you've said makes sense, but I don't agree it needs to stick to it like glue. It's one of the things that really, really irritates me about the show so far. Can't we meet a human that knows of these guys? Maybe saw a blurry pic in a newspaper, or a news broadcast about the events in the dessert? To be so blissfully unaware....that's not good world building. Maybe it's'accurate' given the evidence, but it's sure as hell ain't interesting writing. You could have said the exact same thing about Armada, but Energon chose to go with common sense and said within the ten year gap the world we saw in Armada evolved due to the existence of these beings being on the planet.
I stick by what I said, blatant, lazy, boring marketing gimmick. The world they should be building is being reset to it's foundations every other brick they lay. Pointless.
I'm not asking for Jack, Miko and Raf to come running in just to prove it's a sequel. But Dead Metal is right, this thing is too dis-separate. And we know why, because Hasbro knows it doesn't have to try. People will defend what they say as gospel regardless, tie any thread they can together no matter how flimsy just so Hasbro can still be believed. We all know RID is a sequel to Prime, but would it kill them to keep that feeling in their product regardless?
Grimlock already exists in the aligned universe, but they don't care. They threw the name at a T-rex because marketing. AOE is still fresh in people's minds and they ditch character and world building for cheap cash grabs. 'Grimlock' could've been named anything (I get the RiD reference, btw) a truly new character could've been made. Now he's just stuck under the stigma of a pointless, irrelevant to his very self, name. Can these 'inconsistencies' be reconciled? Probably.(hoorah for IDW) But that's not really an excuse, to be fair, not when you claim your mission is to build a universe or continuity.
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Comment by Sabrblade
Mar 16, 2015
Except Energon never showed ordinary civilians to be aware of the TFs. Only certain humans involved with the government were working with them at the Cybertron Cities, all of which were set up in the most remote, uninhabited locations. That show never took its action into ordinary settings, confining itself to just the Cybertron Cities, space, Cybertron, and other planets.