Paramount + Dreamworks + HD DVD = $$$$$
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Aug 22, 2007 at 9:27am CDT
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"Paramount and DreamWorks Animation together will receive about $150 million in financial incentives for their commitment to HD DVD, according to two Viacom executives with knowledge of the deal but who asked not to be identified."
You can read the full article at NYTimes.com.
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Comment by QuietStorm
Aug 22, 2007
Toldja, it's all about the dough. Dollars that is....
Word.
Word.
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Comment by NebulanFree
Aug 22, 2007
...and the ghost of Betamax wailed in agony...
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Comment by Jazz-935
Aug 22, 2007
This is getting sadder and sadder by the minute.
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Comment by Hoistimus
Aug 22, 2007
yep.. I refuse to get either HD as my little 27 inch TV wouldn't know what to do with it anyway.
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Comment by Noisemaze
Aug 22, 2007
Whatever, why anybody even gives a rat's ass is beyond me!
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Comment by metalformer
Aug 22, 2007
That explains it all.
That and the so-called savings they will have manufacturing the DVDs is enough incentive for anyone to support any specific format! 


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Comment by Archanubis
Aug 22, 2007
I'm still not convinced Blu-Ray is the "next best thing," especially since most of the stores in my area that sell or rent movies are wall to wall DVDs.
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dude have you seen a movie on a blue ray player? Its crazy, just like the difference between dvd and vhs. go back and watch a movie on vhs it looks terrible. people said the same thing when dvd came out, "i can't tell the difference" you must be blind. Its a huge difference. If you have a home sound system like me that is 7.1 sound it sounds unbelievable too. I would rather watch it at home than the theater. (course having a 70inch protection lcd doesn't hurt either)
Comment by Hanch Prime
Aug 22, 2007
Noisemaze wrote:Whatever, why anybody even gives a rat's ass is beyond me!
dude have you seen a movie on a blue ray player? Its crazy, just like the difference between dvd and vhs. go back and watch a movie on vhs it looks terrible. people said the same thing when dvd came out, "i can't tell the difference" you must be blind. Its a huge difference. If you have a home sound system like me that is 7.1 sound it sounds unbelievable too. I would rather watch it at home than the theater. (course having a 70inch protection lcd doesn't hurt either)
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Comment by Ravage XK
Aug 22, 2007
If only Sony would allow other companys to produce Blu Ray discs then I am sure this could be solved.
I have Blu Ray and dont want to have to buy another box, besides I dont have any more HDMI ports on my Tele.
I also know that should I decide to go buy a new player that the instant I paid for it, Paramount would announce that it would support Blu Ray.
Should Blu Ray get into the position of being the obvious winner in the format war then these non supporters will change their tunes as I am sure that the cost of having to use a rivals format would be tiny compared to lost sales.
Its given me an idea for the next TF line "Transformers: The Format Wars".
I have Blu Ray and dont want to have to buy another box, besides I dont have any more HDMI ports on my Tele.
I also know that should I decide to go buy a new player that the instant I paid for it, Paramount would announce that it would support Blu Ray.
Should Blu Ray get into the position of being the obvious winner in the format war then these non supporters will change their tunes as I am sure that the cost of having to use a rivals format would be tiny compared to lost sales.
Its given me an idea for the next TF line "Transformers: The Format Wars".
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Comment by Rat Convoy
Aug 22, 2007
No way I'm buying either HD-DVD or Blu-Ray until this whole silly "format war" thing is sorted out. I'm not buying a player that only plays half the movies. Bad enough we do that for video games.
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Comment by HighPrime
Aug 22, 2007
150 million? C'mon people... that's a drop in the bucket for Paramount... This is a HUGE corporation... Financial incentives don't necessary mean 150 million in cash was exchange, either... you can equate to a tax break or other financial means to spur growth. Like Sony didn't do the same thing for Blockbuster, Disney, etc. It's all about leverage. It's business. I think this is great, personally. Good to see a conglomerate that gets too big for its britches (read Sony) be brought back down to earth.
On a another note - Trust me, you can see the difference between HD-DVD/Blu-ray and standard DVD... it's night and day. I won both players (PS3) and HD-AX2. I've stopped buying standard DVDs, now. personally, I'm an HD-DVD supporter, but I've hedged my bets by purchasing (actually traded in my Xbox360) a PS3 (when it dropeed $100.)
Sound and picture is night and day difference, even with an less than optimal setup. You'll get the best quality using Component or HDMI cables, but watch out for copy protection. the flag hasn't been enforced yet, but it exists for component cables. if the copy protection bit is set, your picture will downgrade to standard 480i/p definition. Only HDMI cables will work, then.
On a another note - Trust me, you can see the difference between HD-DVD/Blu-ray and standard DVD... it's night and day. I won both players (PS3) and HD-AX2. I've stopped buying standard DVDs, now. personally, I'm an HD-DVD supporter, but I've hedged my bets by purchasing (actually traded in my Xbox360) a PS3 (when it dropeed $100.)
Sound and picture is night and day difference, even with an less than optimal setup. You'll get the best quality using Component or HDMI cables, but watch out for copy protection. the flag hasn't been enforced yet, but it exists for component cables. if the copy protection bit is set, your picture will downgrade to standard 480i/p definition. Only HDMI cables will work, then.
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Comment by Sid Burn
Aug 22, 2007
I mentioned this 150 mil deal in the previous thread on this subject.
The 150 million is only for 18 months of exclusivity, Transformers WILL find its way onto Blu Ray
this is a last ditch effort by HDDVD to save their asses.
The recent release of 300 on Blu Ray is outselling the HDDVD version 3-1. Standalone Blu Ray players are also selling better than HDDVD players regardless of the price difference.
HDDVD is desparate, and this under the table deal is a big warning sign to HDDVD supporters
The 150 million is only for 18 months of exclusivity, Transformers WILL find its way onto Blu Ray
this is a last ditch effort by HDDVD to save their asses.
The recent release of 300 on Blu Ray is outselling the HDDVD version 3-1. Standalone Blu Ray players are also selling better than HDDVD players regardless of the price difference.
HDDVD is desparate, and this under the table deal is a big warning sign to HDDVD supporters
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Comment by dinoignacio
Aug 22, 2007
they can conspire and bribe all they want. the clear winner in the format wars will be INTERNET DOWNLOAD. its come to a point where you no longer need to physically own media. with the way internet video is pushing forward (youtube, veoh, joost)... in 5 years all you need to own is a box that will download hd movies from a virtual library you have rights to and play it on your tv. this box will... wait a minute i already own this box, its called a pc.
here's a peak into the future:
http://www.last100.com/2007/07/24/8-int ... n-8-weeks/
here's a peak into the future:
http://www.last100.com/2007/07/24/8-int ... n-8-weeks/
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Comment by HighPrime
Aug 22, 2007
oh, and for those sitting on the side lines, a few companies are not producing players that play back both HD-DVD and Blue Ray. LG is one, Samsung will have one soon. I think there's another company, but can't remember who. Also, Warner Corp. has inventd a Hybrid disc.. check here http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/warn ... brid-disc/
If you can afford Hi-Def, go for it..
I have a feeling this war will end up similar to the DVD-R,DVD+R... that's a format war that was settled by incorporating both formats into one player (the + or -)..
If you can afford Hi-Def, go for it..
I have a feeling this war will end up similar to the DVD-R,DVD+R... that's a format war that was settled by incorporating both formats into one player (the + or -)..
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Comment by polymorphic
Aug 22, 2007
The only people who should give a darn about this, and subsequently be upset at themselves, are the early Blu-Ray adopters. I respect them for spending loads of cash on hardware that will be obsolete in a year or so so that others may purchase standardized HD players on the cheap later on.
Meantime, I'll get the DVD and play it on my upscaling player.
Meantime, I'll get the DVD and play it on my upscaling player.
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Comment by jgilkinson
Aug 22, 2007
why is there this much of an issue... just release it
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Comment by grimstang
Aug 22, 2007
It is going to still come out on regular DVD, right? Sorry I showed up to the dance late.
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Comment by Talon523
Aug 22, 2007
Blu-Ray is the better format. The disk itself has more storage capacity. Go to best buy and watch something playing on it. I have a 37" Toshiba LCD HDTV. My cable is brodcast in 1080i. My HD cable looks terrible compared to the Blu Ray player. Blu-ray should win, unless HD-DVD makes a bunch of deals like this to block the market.
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Comment by NuclearConvoy
Aug 22, 2007
I'm still behind blu-ray as a next gen medium, the data storage capability is vastly superior.
However, as far as media goes, I'm actually vastly sick of these upgrades. I don't want to have to get all my movies again in HD format because the regular DVDs just don't look nice any more...
Companies should bloody offer trade-ins for the thousands of dollars I've spent on VHS and DVDs over the years, and they still haven't gotten around to releasing all the stuff that was on VHS on to DVD (One-Armed Swordsman, anyone?)
However, as far as media goes, I'm actually vastly sick of these upgrades. I don't want to have to get all my movies again in HD format because the regular DVDs just don't look nice any more...
Companies should bloody offer trade-ins for the thousands of dollars I've spent on VHS and DVDs over the years, and they still haven't gotten around to releasing all the stuff that was on VHS on to DVD (One-Armed Swordsman, anyone?)