Possible Listings for 2020 War for Cybertron Line show Wheeljack, Cliffjumper, Hoist and More

Wireless_Phantom wrote:Grapple? Hoist? CliffJumper? IRONWORKS? it's like they went down my list and checked a bunch of boxes at random and I love it.

Ironworks is possibly a replacement name for a different character, as the Micromaster is already homaged with "Irontread" in the Micromaster 10-pack.

Regarding the Patrols, I wonder who we'll get. *looks over the names* O wait... we already have one semi-confirmed, thanks to the Micromaster 10-pack: Bombshock of the Military Patrol, as a retool of Flak. Look at Cratermaker That may mean the other is either Growl or Tracer.

I would certainly hope that we finally get a proper siege optimus prime with his real trailer that turns into a command center with roller and that starscream earth I wonder if it's a new seeker mold

I really hope the Optimus and Screamer aren't true, but we already know Hasbro's been mandating a big Optimus per line, so...

As long as Wheeljack looks good, he's a guaranteed purchase, I'm 99% confident that "Ironworks" is Ironfist/Fisitron so I'll be getting him, I don't buy the Micromasters so no to them, and pretty much everyone else is a wait-and see. If this is true though, it likely confirms that Inferno (the G1 guy sadly, not the superior Predacon), Trailbreaker, and possibly another Minibot character are coming from those Grapple, Hoist, and Cliff molds later in the line. Also please don't switch to Earth modes partway through, the lack of consistency will upset SO many fans.

Sentinel_Primal wrote:And isn't NYCC soon? Could this be a slight leak as to what we might see there?

NYCC is a week from tomorrow/today (depending on timezones), so we'll find out soon enough how much of this is legit.

I can see them all being true, especially with Starscream, given how Siege screamer transforms, I'd expect this to be a new mold. Should be interesting to see what else we get.

Ironworks would likely be a weaponiser, so maybe it is a base that can be pulled apart into weapons tho the base mode would be pretty small even by the micromaster standards unless its just mainly hollow parts to give other figures boots or empty boxes on their backs.

Grapple will be a pass unless its made cybertronian or depending if I like it more than classics and I'm definitely wanting an inferno as I never got the classics and POTP is stickered up as another character.

Wheeljacks kind of the same as Grapple except if it isnt a good design (as per all the car autobots so far) I'll track down a classics.

Hoist...even if they screw him up I'm buying him.

Starscream let the earthmodes commence and hope it sorts the car modes out for all the car bots YAY. Maybe the classic seekers will finally have some competiton and TR Megs will have to get used to not being the biggest of the squadron.

Deluxe cliffjumper fortunately deluxes can be pretty small and if it's legend sized with some decent weapons it might not feel like over paying for a under sized class like shockwave. If they have screwed the scale it will be a matter of waiting years for another Hasbro version or hoping a third party brings out some TR scale toys which would be unlikely. Might have been better for hasbro to have done him like the duocons in some way but time will tell.

When the micromaster packs start completing teams will mean I have some backtracking to purchase them, until then, money saved.

*Prime, may be a buy if it doesnt look like the voyager prime and the trailer is usable/sizable unlike Magnus. Would really like to see this so I know if I can pass on cell shaded Optimus completely.

ZeroWolf wrote:I'd say look at when we got our first look at omega for when we'll see scorpy, might get a tease at nycc but you won't see the full thing till next spring.

Oh I really hope so.

I've always wanted a city Scorponok never had the original but is was on my xmas list every year LOL.

What if Starscream... is just the same mold... as the Siege tetrajet... but with the altmode kibble... swapped out for new altmode kibble?

Sabrblade wrote:What if Starscream... is just the same mold... as the Siege tetrajet... but with the altmode kibble... swapped out for new altmode kibble?

That's precisely what I was thinking too. Swap out that hinge and the wings/fuselage for a different set that the torso still just folds under and they're done. And we'll all buy it again.

o.supreme wrote:Also, I'm debating with Grapple. Will he be an all new mold?

More than likely. Hasbro hit the big reset button on most characters with Siege, and insisted that there would be no past molds in the mainline figures (Chromia's a new mold based on an old one with only her thighs recycled, people).

blackeyedprime wrote:Expect the worst and then be surprised (or maybe even a little bit more disappointed) when the reveals come out.

This is basically my way of approaching a lot of rumors Never thought we'd actually get a voyager Apeface, and yet here we are Some of these sound great, but I'm expecting the worst in terms of how they may look/what they turn into. If Hoist looks exactly like his character model it'll be a bit awkward looking, but if it's closer to Trailbreaker's, it'll look cleaner. If Wheeljack turns into a box van, the kibble will be extreme, but if he turns into a Cybertronian supercar, he loses accuracy to what his original alt mode was