Possible MacGuffin in Transformers Rise of the Beasts Revealed in New Toy Bio

First-Aid wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I can't speak for other people, but I would have the same angry reaction if the director claimed that the movie was made to "celebrate French people and Christian values".

This. SO MUCH this.

We all WANT a Transformers movie like the cartoons, focusing on the Transformers themselves. It's our dream. This shouldn't "celebrate" ANY racial, religious, or sexual aspects, it should celebrate TRANSFORMERS.

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:If I want to see a movie about humans celebrating human culture, ANY culture of ANY "color", there's countless movies out there. But here we are promised a movie about EXTRATERESTRIAL ROBOTS and what do we know about their culture and their traditions? NOTHING. Nada. Transformers are supposed to be a species of sentient beings millions of years old. Yet all we see are empty shells that fight each others for no reasons.

So, in other words, you want a movie version of Cyberverse.

Sabrblade wrote:

First-Aid wrote:Transwarp key? That pretty much locks in the time travel angle.

Not necessarily. Though the concept of Transwarp technology was originally introduced in Beast Wars as involving time travel, later fiction of more recent years (beginning most prominently with Animated) has streamlined the concept to merely refer to the kind of technology used by space bridges simply for long-distance space travel.

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:If I want to see a movie about humans celebrating human culture, ANY culture of ANY "color", there's countless movies out there. But here we are promised a movie about EXTRATERESTRIAL ROBOTS and what do we know about their culture and their traditions? NOTHING. Nada. Transformers are supposed to be a species of sentient beings millions of years old. Yet all we see are empty shells that fight each others for no reasons.

So, in other words, you want a movie version of Cyberverse.

More budget, better animation, skip going to Earth, and trim out the usual fillers?

YES PLEASE!

So, Cyberverse Seasons 2-4, then.

First-Aid wrote:This. SO MUCH this.

We all WANT a Transformers movie like the cartoons, focusing on the Transformers themselves. It's our dream. This shouldn't "celebrate" ANY racial, religious, or sexual aspects, it should celebrate TRANSFORMERS.

There is nothing wrong with celebrating those things, just doing it to the exclusion of a story or the main reason for the movie/tV series. Hopefully they will learn from the recent issues with Doctor Who. Doctors 9, 10/11, 12, and 13 were off the chart popular because of great writing. There are ALWAYS lessons in Doctor Who, but good writing disguises them in creative storylines and characters. When Jodie Whitaker came onboard, a new writer took over and, frankly, it was a lesson everytime but they no longer tried hiding it...or they tried to and just were horrible at it. The result? Doctor Who ratings globally are down dramatically, with Oprah re-runs outscoring them in some cases. The BLATANTNESS was the turn-off. It boiled down to horrible writing, making the "woke" lesson the story as opposed to disguising it in a fun or intense storyline. It was just, "Here you go. Sorry it's not entertaining in even the least bit." I loved the show, as did my wife- who actually got me into Doctor Who (I'm a sassy Nine fan, she's a Colin Baker person). We watched the first three with Jodie and she turned it off in disgust. Her opinion- it was just stupid and borderline offensive to old fans.

It's not the WHAT that matters. It's the HOW. If the overarching theme in the movie is black and Latino culture and NOT Transformers, then that is failure.

Sabrblade wrote:

Rysquad wrote:

Cheetron wrote:I'm just waiting for the day when we have a transformer movie. No humans. Just giant robots.

Kinda makes the whole "robots in disguise" thing moot though.

And I guess that means that the 1986 movie was never a Transformers movie either. Turns out the only Transformers movie to ever see release in theaters was the Japanese Beast Wars Second movie.

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

First-Aid wrote:Transwarp key? That pretty much locks in the time travel angle.

Not necessarily. Though the concept of Transwarp technology was originally introduced in Beast Wars as involving time travel, later fiction of more recent years (beginning most prominently with Animated) has streamlined the concept to merely refer to the kind of technology used by space bridges simply for long-distance space travel.

So how was them traveling to prehistoric Earth explained away? Isn't Transwarp capable of time-travel as well? I don't remember details from Animated and I haven't read up on convention exclusive material.

Emphasis mine.

I get that BW started the time travel concept. But you said that later TFA and other material streamlined it to be space-travel only. I was just wondering how that was done.