Pre-orders and Galleries Launch for 2 Versions of MPG Godbomber, Third Dramatic Capture Set, Statue

"Dramatic" Capture Series, not "Dynamic".

Sabrblade wrote:"Dramatic" Capture Series, not "Dynamic".

Whoops! I also wrote Triple "Threat" instead of "Takeover".

Emerje

I am all in for that 14S box.
Hopefully it pops up on Pulse sooner than later and I don't have to finagle through Buyee and TTM.

triKlops wrote:I am all in for that 14S box.
Hopefully it pops up on Pulse sooner than later and I don't have to finagle through Buyee and TTM.

Bad news, Buyee wont let you order it. No idea why, but I tried it out of curiosity and got a message saying it couldn't be sold overseas along with a link to a page of all the stuff that can be shipped.

https://takaratomymall.jp/shop/e/eInterNS/

Can't imagine the reasoning, there's other stuff on there that has been sold by Hasbro like Adamas Machina Hot Rod, and bigger things like some of the Zoids.

Emerje

As much as I like that statue the price is just out of my range.

Emerje wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:The Amazon Japan links only go to the coronation set and I can't seem to find the God Bomber listing.

The post looks like it was meant to be a news article that never got written.

He gave it a news title, I don't think he finished writing it.

here's the Ginrai link: https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B0D?tag=seibertron00-22& ... UTF8&psc=1
Takara Tomy Mall exclusive (not a box set, it's a big box with bonus parts that both figures can store in like that Raiden box): https://takaratomymall.jp/shop/g/g4904810955788/

Emerje

Thanks, I was writing several news articles on the way to a countryside retreat in northern Quebec and then lost internet along the way.

Since we won't be getting a commander class Astrotrain in SS86 like we should, this might have to do. I'll just keep it in robot mode, because the other modes are ass. Blitzwing is good in robot and tank modes, and Starscream is solid overall. Hopefully it'll be an easy enough pre-order.

Emerje wrote:

triKlops wrote:I am all in for that 14S box.
Hopefully it pops up on Pulse sooner than later and I don't have to finagle through Buyee and TTM.

Bad news, Buyee wont let you order it. No idea why, but I tried it out of curiosity and got a message saying it couldn't be sold overseas along with a link to a page of all the stuff that can be shipped.

https://takaratomymall.jp/shop/e/eInterNS/

Can't imagine the reasoning, there's other stuff on there that has been sold by Hasbro like Adamas Machina Hot Rod, and bigger things like some of the Zoids.

Emerje

Damn; thanks for the heads up.
Pulse it is then, unless one of the larger eTailers carries it for not too much of a hustle up.

Nothing on Pulse yet, but BBTS has the Godbomber box set listed at $240 (deposit required).

https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/ ... 290152?o=1

Emerje

Emerje wrote:Nothing on Pulse yet, but BBTS has the Godbomber box set listed at $240 (deposit required).

https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/ ... 290152?o=1

Emerje

For Canadians, A3&U did the same.

https://www.agesthreeandup.ca/products/ ... ai-box-set

Also, the simpler version:

https://www.agesthreeandup.ca/products/ ... god-ginrai

Just to be sure the only thing the box set has more are the "prototype" parts, an extra gun, and the stand?

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Emerje wrote:Nothing on Pulse yet, but BBTS has the Godbomber box set listed at $240 (deposit required).

https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/ ... 290152?o=1

Emerje

For Canadians, A3&U did the same.

https://www.agesthreeandup.ca/products/ ... ai-box-set

Also, the simpler version:

https://www.agesthreeandup.ca/products/ ... god-ginrai

Just to be sure the only thing the box set has more are the "prototype" parts, an extra gun, and the stand?

And a sword.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Emerje wrote:Nothing on Pulse yet, but BBTS has the Godbomber box set listed at $240 (deposit required).

https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/ ... 290152?o=1

Emerje

For Canadians, A3&U did the same.

https://www.agesthreeandup.ca/products/ ... ai-box-set

Also, the simpler version:

https://www.agesthreeandup.ca/products/ ... god-ginrai

Just to be sure the only thing the box set has more are the "prototype" parts, an extra gun, and the stand?

And a sword.

Emerje

Unless A3&U messed up their description, it seems that the sword come with the simple version as well.

So Hasbro Pulse has finally listed Godbomber, but only the standard version. Other stores like BBTS have the Takara Tomy Mall exclusive set, but the price isn't great, $240, MSRP with the exchange rate through TTM would have been $214, that should have been the Hasbro price (Hasbro's price for regular GB is $14 less than TTM's MSRP).

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Emerje wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Emerje wrote:Nothing on Pulse yet, but BBTS has the Godbomber box set listed at $240 (deposit required).

https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/Product/ ... 290152?o=1

Emerje

For Canadians, A3&U did the same.

https://www.agesthreeandup.ca/products/ ... ai-box-set

Also, the simpler version:

https://www.agesthreeandup.ca/products/ ... god-ginrai

Just to be sure the only thing the box set has more are the "prototype" parts, an extra gun, and the stand?

And a sword.

Emerje

Unless A3&U messed up their description, it seems that the sword come with the simple version as well.

Weird, I know I replied to this. Early listings didn't mention the sword and it isn't in the pictures of the contents, but it was listed in the pre-orders.

Emerje

On an unrelated topic, yet still appropriate to this forum -- anyone know if any 3rd party upgrades for Raiden are in the works anywhere? Every time I look at the guy, I get annoyed.

Brokebot wrote:On an unrelated topic, yet still appropriate to this forum -- anyone know if any 3rd party upgrades for Raiden are in the works anywhere? Every time I look at the guy, I get annoyed.

There's one that replaces Kaen with dedicated hips and waist, I have it on preorder through amazon JP, will at least free up the best trainbot to enjoy as an individual.

Ginrai and Super Ginrai are preparing to ship soon! Should be showing up in the next 10 days.



Emerje

Emerje wrote:Ginrai and Super Ginrai are preparing to ship soon! Should be showing up in the next 10 days. Emerje

Long time coming.
It should be great in hand.
Looking forward to mine.

triKlops wrote:Long time coming.
It should be great in hand.
Looking forward to mine.

Worst haiku ever.

Please God, don't let it suck.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Please God, don't let it suck.

Unless... ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Sabrblade wrote:

triKlops wrote:Long time coming.
It should be great in hand.
Looking forward to mine.

Worst haiku ever.

Thank you, thank you!

I got my shipping notice for Super Ginrai, watching the videos from Takara Tomy it doesn't look bad and seems to be faithful to the original toy.

I got charged Thursday night, but still hasn't shipped. Seems unlikely I'll have mine before the new year.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:I got charged Thursday night, but still hasn't shipped. Seems unlikely I'll have mine before the new year.

Emerje

I'm not supposed to get mine until January 7th UT that seems a little slow for DHL and Amazon Japan.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Emerje wrote:I got charged Thursday night, but still hasn't shipped. Seems unlikely I'll have mine before the new year.

Emerje

I'm not supposed to get mine until January 7th UT that seems a little slow for DHL and Amazon Japan.

I find DHL gives pretty late estimates, but 3 or 4 days tend to be the norm from Amazon Japan. I did once have them ship via an alternative service and it took over a week!

Meanwhile I have a package coming from Australia via DHL that's been in transit since December 17 and being handed off to USPS for delivery, still isn't supposed to show up for another week (hasn't updated since leaving customs in California Thursday).

Emerje

My Ginrais finally shipped. For the curious, buying the two from Amazon Japan was $381.48, buying from Hasbro would have been $440 plus another $25 tax so saved nearly $85.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:My Ginrais finally shipped. For the curious, buying the two from Amazon Japan was $381.48, buying from Hasbro would have been $440 plus another $25 tax so saved nearly $85.

Emerje

Did you buy two of the same?

The tracking on mine updated to being at my local delivery hub. Even though the delivery date is still set for January 7th,i think I'll have it today or tomorrow.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Did you buy two of the same?

No, I got Ginrai and Super Ginrai.

Emerje

My Ginrai is still out for delivery even though it's after 9PM my time. Maybe I'll get it today but I doubt it.

Super Ginrai arrived at 10:25PM EST and thus far I'm pleased. The instructions are a booklet (thank God) and everything seems OK. Godmaster Ginrai doesn't like to stay plugged in but that might be intentional or just mine. Lots of diecast too.

Super Ginrai video!



Can't wait I'll have to wait...

-Kanrabat- wrote:Super Ginrai video!



Can't wait I'll have to wait...

Wow, he actually looks to have a straightforward transformation and fun to play with. Wish there was a comparison to Optimus in bot mode with Ginrai (not Super Ginrai), looks like they had to shrink him down to make him affordable.

Emerje

Yeah, I recently transformed my MP01 and MP10 recently. Both were joy to transform. Then I did my MP44B... I had to watch Emgo's JTR. Not fun at all.

This Super Ginrai look as straightforward and fun to transform as MP10.
Joy!

Ginrai really is fun. It's like they took the toy's transformation and added some bits to make it more accurate to the cartoon. My one issue is that the God Master loves to pop out and I'm concerned it'll do it while I'm not looking and my cat will get it, so I have to leave it in the box when I'm not playing interacting withe the set. I'm breaking my review into two parts and I'm saving part one now.

We need some tips and tricks in here.

There are many copies of this where folks are running into issues. Some of these are user error, some are not.

Common Problem 1: Broken smokestack tabs. This is almost definitely something you did, if it happened. Go look at the manual and make sure both of the smaller robot's knee joints are unlocked. When you press the back of the calves onto the tabs, there should be little to no friction. You want the legs almost perpendicular to the smokestack tabs before tabbing them in. No forcing it. Whether this is good design is debatable, but hopefully that helps.

Common Problem 2: Super Ginrai's head won't stay down. The general cause of this is that the toy is designed with tolerances at a high level of precision that probably cross the line into "way too picky" territory. I really don't like how they made the head attach, it leads to the same issue that Fans Hobby's version of this guy had where if everything isn't in place near-perfectly, that head isn't staying down. Put another way, ughhhhh Ono-san why did you do this to us ;_;

The cause of this in practice can be either user error or qc. Or both. Let's start with user error.

Press the truck cab cube down as far as you can, so that the top of it is even with the top of the sides of the "box" it sits in, before attempting to plug in the Super Ginrai head.



You have to take care when you do this, or you could end up back at common problem 1 because you pressed down too hard in the wrong place, moved the legs and broke the tabs. I recommend swinging the arms out at the shoulders on the horizontal butterfly joint, then grasping the Super Ginrai torso and pressing down with both thumbs on the top part of the cab only. You'd be touching the red painted areas here. Once satisfied, swing the head down and peg it in. If it still doesn't want to go, press on the joint from the back (just behind the smaller Ginrai's feet) while also pressing down on the head. You should be good now, unless you have an actual QC problem. Like I did.

I had two.

The first thing to check is that your Ginrai chest cube thing is transformed correctly, with everything nicely in alignment. I can't quite do this on MPG-09, but can with MP-60. Why? MPG has an extra bit of junk, seen below on the left where the die-cast piece meets the small robot's chest, preventing it from clipping in all the way



I didn't want to shave this down and can get everything in place regardless, but it does make the SG head want to pop out every now and then. I've also seen a case where the rotating peg holding little Ginrai's head assembly on was put together backwards in the factory. If that happens to you, you have a pin to knock out to fix that up.

The second issue I noticed was when using the MP-60 truck cube to verify the first one. I still couldn't initially get the cab nice and flush in the box. Then I looked and oh good, what's this stress mark?



Seen from the front, you can see where this was caused by me putting downward pressure onto the cab. It pushed that piece on the right which isn't entirely squeezed in correctly. Both of those pieces needed a little shaving.



Thankfully, this was an easy fix. Take out the screw that holds the ab crunch joint, then gently separate the torso halves vertically, and voila. Clearance to shave those parts down achieved.



At this point, I was able to shave those pieces a little, put it back together, and finally get the toy into Super Ginrai mode properly.

Common Problem 3: The Godmaster keeps falling out super easily. Yep, it sure does. I got nothin' helpful for this.

Between all that and MP-60's stupid drop down hip mechanism being pretty loose on my copy, and with this being smaller overall than my imagination wanted, and with it using some of that accursed cheapo plastic seen on recent Generations stuff in places, I'm not liking this guy very much. It feels more like a slightly nicer Commander Class dude than a Masterpiece.

Hope this helps someone out there to enjoy it more than I have!

One look at that thumbnail says you need to press the truck cube down more.

This all seems like way too much of a hassle for a release this expensive and high-profile.

ScottyP wrote:One look at that thumbnail says you need to press the truck cube down more.

You're right and I did. It's just about perfect now.

Counterpunch wrote:This all seems like way too much of a hassle for a release this expensive and high-profile.

Completely agreed! MPG-09 bringing shades of MP-9, only less severe.

ScottyP wrote:

Counterpunch wrote:This all seems like way too much of a hassle for a release this expensive and high-profile.

Completely agreed! MPG-09 bringing shades of MP-9, only less severe.

I have to disagree, this is nothing like the abomination of all that is holy MP-09. Even though this is the most playable Masterpiece in a long time, that doesn't mean it should be handled like a Generations toy. From what I've seen breakages were happening due to people not paying attention or using care. As I've said before Transformers shouldn't be expected to pose like a master Yogi.

Mine showed up yesterday, I'll probably open them later tonight or in the morning.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

My brother was asking me about this after YouTube put your video on his YouTube home page. He's been killing time with the Hasbro G1 cartoon stream so I guess the algorithm is working for you!

Emerje

Emerje wrote:Mine showed up yesterday, I'll probably open them later tonight or in the morning.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

My brother was asking me about this after YouTube put your video on his YouTube home page. He's been killing time with the Hasbro G1 cartoon stream so I guess the algorithm is working for you!

Emerje

May I counter that it's my elaborate plot to CONQUER THE WORLD!!??!!

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Emerje wrote:Mine showed up yesterday, I'll probably open them later tonight or in the morning.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

My brother was asking me about this after YouTube put your video on his YouTube home page. He's been killing time with the Hasbro G1 cartoon stream so I guess the algorithm is working for you!

Emerje

May I counter that it's my elaborate plot to CONQUER THE WORLD!!??!!

That's what algorithms are for.

Emerje

Fans have been getting the newly released MPG 09 Ginrai, which includes his trailer to turn him into Super Ginrai. However, an issue has come up with the connection point near the smokestacks when turning Ginrai into Super Ginrai. Those tabs snap off, and we have proof of two instances along with several other reports. A piece of Ginrai's white crotch-plate in normal mode has also been confirmed to break off.

Of course, not everyone has their copy yet, so we don't know how widespread these issues are, we just want to give you a heads up to be extra careful at that connection point. There are several images of both MPG 09 (Super Ginrai) and MP 60 (Ginrai, without his trailer) which we have posted below coming from Transformers Botsposting, TM Review and HK TF on Facebook along with Baidu.

We also have a review of MPG Super Ginrai for you along with transformation videos from Takara.

Of all the white repaints of Optimus Prime we had over the years, Super Ginrai would be the only one I'd really be interested into. It'd be a fun diversion from the classic Ultra Magnus look, other than a more proper usage of an OP mold due to the combining-to-the-trailer gimmick already being in place. OFC a new head for the combined mode should be a must.

I dont quite understand Masterpiece rules now. Scale seems all over with the Trainbots and now Ginrai who both seem more CHUG/Generations scaled. Looks like the cab robot is same size as SS86 Prime. If I had known that I prolly would have bought Ginrai instead, but I assumed he would be near MP44 size. I guess he was a bit smaller in the show, just not by that much. Also I thought MP was over, is this one of the last ones or are just doing kinda random one offs from now on.

Hero Alpha wrote:Also I thought MP was over, is this one of the last ones or are just doing kinda random one offs from now on.

There are two lines, Masterpiece and MPG, and both have their own Ginrai release. MP-60 Ginrai is the toy-accurate version that is just the cab robot, while MPG-09 Super Ginrai is the show-accurate version that is both the cab robot and the trailer. MP-60 Ginrai is the final release in the Masterpiece line, while MPG is continuing with more releases to come after MPG-09 Super Ginrai.

What I don't get is why end the MP line? And only going with MPG? The G stands for Gattai (合体), which means "combining." One can argue Super Ginrai is a MPG because the it "combines" the truck with the trailer into a robot. But then there aren't that many proper MPG figures to do outside of combiners that fall into the Gattai definition, limiting TT's options. While keep the MP line doesn't limit TT's hands introducing combiners into the line.

Is "Masterpiece Gattai" represent more of a scale thing now started by Raiden's size? With TT finding the old MP scale in its "2.0" articulaiton complexity too expensive for the market?

I got out of the MP game after Tracks (only got Megatron 2.0 post-Tracks) as I couldn't stand the too-Sunbow look and increasingly poor QC. But then Skids came and the design interview gave me hope. Only to find out that's an anomaly... and then it ends with Ginrai. Was glad I got out when I did.

I wouldn't mind TT is re-starting Masterpiece 1.0 engineering & design style in a smaller scale and call it "MPG." But it doesn't seem to be the case for now.

cloudballoon wrote:What I don't get is why end the MP line? And only going with MPG? The G stands for Gattai (合体), which means "combining."

In the time since MPG first began, TakaraTomy updated their website to provide a more elaborate explanation for what the G stands for, saying it not only stands for "Gattai" but also for "Giant" and "Great", and not just referring to the figures' sizes but also to the technology used to make them.