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Review for IDW Transformers Beast Wars #5

Posted by william-james88 Jun 30, 2021 at 1:06pm CDT 43,790 views
Fight! Fight! Fight!

A review of Beast Wars issue 5

Some spoilers




This was a very pleasant issue to read and as a Beast Wars fan, I had fun. What I always loved in the original series was that the limited cast meant you could often have them all in the same scene or within the same show, and you got to know them better. You could say that second to beast modes, that's the biggest difference between Beast Wars and G1, which had an ever sprawling cast and new side characters added in every episode. This is the very first issue that really made me feel like I was watching an extension of the Beast Wars show, which is odd since this series was mandated to feel like the first few episodes at first.

This is also the issue where we get some backstory to the world and the alliance between Predacons and Maximals. We even get a better explanation at Dinobot's turn and his motivations. Of course, writing this AFTER the conflicting behaviour we read for a few issues is really poor thinking on the part of the writer. The handling of Primal was well done. From the first issue, we were told exactly how he differed to the show, which explained how he acted later. But for Dinobot, we get our explanation after being puzzled. This isn't memento, it's a Beast Wars comic. If there is something important we should know in a comic that is acting as a retelling of the show at times, then let us know.



There are of course come inconsistencies, like a character claiming ignorance to certain things while previous issues said that the reputation of certain Predacons was widely known. And most of all, DO NOT REFERENCE BETTER MATERIAL. Those jokes never ever work, ever. Didn't work for the Dark Phoenix film, didn't work for Coming to America 2, just stop it. Let's just move past that and enjoy the meat of this issue, which is... action!



Most of the issue is made up of a fight scene and it was a blast. Lots of fun interactions with great money shots like Primal and Megatron finally facing off. We even got to see Cheetor in action, which is great since that character has been sidelined all this time.

I have grown accustomed to the artwork so I don't mind it, but there are still some really jarring moments when it comes to scale, like this moment where Tarantulus pounces on Rattrap.



Some writing and scale inconsistencies aside, this was by far the most enjoyable issue so far. Since all that happened in previous issues is referenced in the dialogue, I would honestly recommend anyone who is interested in this series to just start with this issue, no need for the previous ones.

Oh and that one joke about school was quite funny.

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Review for IDW Transformers Beast Wars #5
Review for IDW Transformers Beast Wars #5
Review for IDW Transformers Beast Wars #5
Review for IDW Transformers Beast Wars #5
Review for IDW Transformers Beast Wars #5
Review for IDW Transformers Beast Wars #5
Review for IDW Transformers Beast Wars #5
Review for IDW Transformers Beast Wars #5

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Re: Review for IDW Transformers Beast Wars #5 (view post)
Comment by AllNewSuperRobot Jun 30, 2021
Sabrblade wrote:We're talking about the same Megatron who, in one of his greatest moments, proudly gloated the words "EVIL TRIUMPHS!"


:HEADHURTS: That is one of the best quotes in the entire series. Don't take it out of context.

Sabrblade wrote:The most interesting villains are those who view the good guys as evil and themselves as in the right, not self-proclaimed wrongdoers.


Not always. The quote 'no one is the villain in their own story' doesn't have to be their defining trait. Tarantulas and Rampage are two of the best villains Transformers has ever made. That trope doesn't apply to either of them. Nor are they 'one-note monsters'.
Re: Review for IDW Transformers Beast Wars #5 (view post)
Comment by william-james88 Jun 30, 2021
Sabrblade wrote: What he hadn't realized at the time was how vicious the others of Megatron's crew were, having apparently only joined up with them shortly before the Golden Disk heist.


And yet Tarantulus is a renowned evil pred that people fear. The way this Dinobot is being written, he would have turned away as soon as he saw that guy in Meg's crew.
Re: Review for IDW Transformers Beast Wars #5 (view post)
Comment by Rodimus Prime Jul 2, 2021
Why is it that I loved this style of art in TFA, but don't care for it in these comics? Too many straight lines and angles, not enough curves.
Re: Review for IDW Transformers Beast Wars #5 (view post)
Comment by Sabrblade Jul 2, 2021
Rodimus Prime wrote:Why is it that I loved this style of art in TFA, but don't care for it in these comics? Too many straight lines and angles, not enough curves.
Still images vs. moving pictures, perhaps?
Re: Review for IDW Transformers Beast Wars #5 (view post)
Comment by AllNewSuperRobot Jul 3, 2021
Alternatively, TFA was stylised but at least they still looked like they were supposed to in altmode. Prowl looked like a bike. Not a bike drawn by a 3yo that doesn't know what bikes look like >:oP

Also, in this issue we learned you can still fire blasters in Beast Mode. Wow, that's... artistically lazy. How many issues was it before we get the new artist? :-?
Re: Review for IDW Transformers Beast Wars #5 (view post)
Comment by D-Maximal_Primal Jul 4, 2021
Angry Tarantulas face is amazing.

I still think Burcham was perfect for the art role. Hopefully, as much as I love Coller, he only fills in for just one issue.
Re: Review for IDW Transformers Beast Wars #5 (view post)
Comment by ZeroWolf Jul 5, 2021
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Angry Tarantulas face is amazing.

I still think Burcham was perfect for the art role. Hopefully, as much as I love Coller, he only fills in for just one issue.

I'm still a bit confused by the art situation as IDW didn't make any note of it at all in the solits, normally a change of artist (even for one issue) is a big deal, but nothing was said.

Also, I'm with you in liking Burcham's art. It didn't bother me at all.

On the other hand though, regularly rotating the artist isn't bad as it could give exposure to up and comers (still say IDW could have done an TF anthology comic for this purpose)
Re: Review for IDW Transformers Beast Wars #5 (view post)
Comment by AllNewSuperRobot Jul 5, 2021
I'm going to assume the main issue here, is that Burcham drew G1 first and doesn't understand the difference. That Beast Modes are not just cosmetic altmodes. Primal can't pull his shotgun out of his gorilla forearm. No more than Waspinator can shoot lasers from his wasp stinger. The original series couldn't do so and the lore says it doesn't happen, aside from specific exceptions ala Lio Convoy. Then it is simply the artist couldn't be bothered to draw a scene properly.

This issue also highlights that scale is a problem too. There are growing, objective problems with this art. Subjective bias is all well and good. But that is all it is.

Case in point:
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Alex Milne has a RI cover in the back of this issue. One that is so impressive, on multiple artistic levels. I think he should have been given this book easily.
Re: Review for IDW Transformers Beast Wars #5 (view post)
Comment by ZeroWolf Jul 5, 2021
Scenes like that though, Primal using his guns in alt mode, i don't care they weren't in the original series...I mean this is its own new thing. The creative team want that in this series, all power to them. The editors were clearly happy with it, so it's really not a problem to me.
Re: Review for IDW Transformers Beast Wars #5 (view post)
Comment by Sabrblade Jul 5, 2021
Animal Attack Mode was the main gimmick of 1997.
Re: Review for IDW Transformers Beast Wars #5 (view post)
Comment by ZeroWolf Jul 5, 2021
Sabrblade wrote:Animal Attack Mode was the main gimmick of 1997.

Ah yes good point. However even if it wouldn't, I'd still be
Okay with it. I wonder if they'll incorporate it into the Rise of the Beasts movie :-?
Re: Review for IDW Transformers Beast Wars #5 (view post)
Comment by AllNewSuperRobot Jul 5, 2021
Except this isn't it's own new thing, yet. So far, it is a truncated redux with kitbashed extras. No new information has been presented. How things differ, in how they work within this continuity. A New Thing has to define itself. Just as Megatron: Origins and the -Ations did to establish how they were different from G1, Dreamwave etc.

This isn't about gatekeeping. Beast Wars finished 25 years ago. The End. Personally, I don't think there is any merit in catering to nostalgia at all.
But, guns in altmodes thing isn't them doing something "new". It is cutting corners. Because ala this issue, Burcham didn't want to draw Scorponok or Waspinator in Bot Mode. It would be like someone drawing Wolverine slashing a foe, without his claws being displayed.

Given the state of IDW 2.0, I don't think the editors at IDW have an issue with anything being done under the Transformers brand. As long as the money comes in.
Re: Review for IDW Transformers Beast Wars #5 (view post)
Comment by Nemesis Primal Jul 23, 2021
...so for the people complaining that this series isn't different enough from the original story, October solicits from IDW are out, and between one of the revealed covers and confirmation from Burcham on Twitter, Razorbeast is coming.

Razorbeast.jpg

https://twitter.com/jcburcham/status/14 ... 1994667009
Re: Review for IDW Transformers Beast Wars #5 (view post)
Comment by Sabrblade Jul 23, 2021
Me: "Huh, that's neat. Wonder what his role might be."


Haters: "Oh great! Another character for this series to ruin!"
Re: Review for IDW Transformers Beast Wars #5 (view post)
Comment by AllNewSuperRobot Jul 23, 2021
Great looking cover aside, If drawn by Burcham, I wonder what his altmode will look like...

Hog.jpg


:-?
Re: Review for IDW Transformers Beast Wars #5 (view post)
Comment by ZeroWolf Jul 23, 2021
It wasn't Burnham who drew it, Chan did
Re: Review for IDW Transformers Beast Wars #5 (view post)
Comment by AllNewSuperRobot Jul 23, 2021
ZeroWolf wrote:It wasn't Burnham who drew it, Chan did


I was being facetious. I know Burcham didn't draw that cover, because it looks great. Something you could see as a poster on a wall. Not stuck on a fridge, by comical magnets... >:oP
Re: Review for IDW Transformers Beast Wars #5 (view post)
Comment by ZeroWolf Jul 23, 2021
Ah I misread your post, hence my confusion :lol:
Re: Review for IDW Transformers Beast Wars #5 (view post)
Comment by AllNewSuperRobot Jul 23, 2021
ZeroWolf wrote:Ah I misread your post, hence my confusion :lol:


I thought so. Although you made me doubt that I'd written the right name, at first :lol:

As for the comment above. I'm looking forward to Razorbeast's inclusion. Part of the wellspring of non-Mainframe characters, that should have been used in this book from day one. Instead of the digibashes: Bat-Girl and Discount Snapper.
Re: Review for IDW Transformers Beast Wars #5 (view post)
Comment by ScottyP Jul 27, 2021
The first arc in IDW's new Beast Wars series, "Savage Landing", is set to conclude with tomorrow's release of Beast Wars #6. IDW Publishing has provided a five page preview of the book as well as its brief solicitation text which provides some information about what to expect:

(W) Erik Burnham (A/CA) Josh Burcham
"Savage Landing", Part 6! It's a siege on the Axalon as the Predacons attempt to end the Beast Wars before they even begin by bringing down the Maximals and their base! As Megatron and his loyal (?) troops launch their assault, one bot on Optimus Primal's ship decides to put it all on the line to help the others turn the tide.

The series will still be ongoing after this unlike many of IDW's recent Transformers titles which were mini-series, so don't forget to keep Beast Wars on your pull list for issue 7 and beyond! Check out the preview pages below, and as always keep it here at Seibertron.com for all the latest Transformers comic book news.

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