Rumours on Characters and Plot Elements In Upcoming 7th Live Action Transformers Film

Posted by william-james88 Mar 27, 2021 at 10:40pm CDT 104,573 views

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The next movie is going to start shooting soon so this will be one of many articles on what the next live action film will entail. The rumours below come to us from an insider in the graphics department, so it is based on concept art which, as we know, is not indicative of the finished product. It does make for fun rumours though. The main takeaway here is that, for the most part, the film acts as it's own thing and does not reference much in terms of past films in terms of plots and style. There will be of course some references, like the design of Bumblebee's head which has remained rather similar throughout all live action films. Of course, take all this with a grain of salt since it was posted on 4chan.

Ok, so let's get to it:

>So, I work at Paramount Pictures as a designer for posters and other memorabilia, I create posters for them and more stuff. >Anyway, I got into some cool info about the upcoming Transformers reboot and here it is:
>You may have heard that new leak about Beast Alliance, well, it's not a beast wars movie and it has nothing to do with beast wars. Beast Alliance is just a working title, lots of movies have weird titles like this that have nothing to do with the film, Star Wars had lots of them.
>It is a heist type film like Ant Man but with Transformers, Optimus Prime and crew are stealing an artifact, no idea what it is but energon is involved. Megatron and the decepticons are in, all in G1 designs.
>Set after Bumblebee 2018 film, it acknowledges it but not the rest of Bayformers.
>New human characters: black, white and latino leads eyed.
>Possibly a black girl and a white kid are eyed as leads.
>Steven Caple Jr. understands the IP from what I saw.
>Small cast of robots, a little bigger than 2007 film. Movie emphasises on love and heart like Bumblebee rather than lore.
>Now keep in mind, I know all this stuff from some small plot lines I got to read and concept art I saw but it seems this is the direction they are going. Very Indiana Jones/Ant Man heist adventure film than previous films. I also saw a new face for Bumblebee, no idea if they will use it or not, it gave Bumblebee a mouth but the head design was similar to the previous film (Bumblebee 2018 movie) one. Robots are also thicker in the concept art.

>It's Trans on top and Formers beneath like G1 and has THE too. I think a comparision on how the marketing will be like is Thor Ragnarok. The roster of robots as I'm aware of is the following:
>Optimus Prime
>Bumblebee
>Arcee
>Ratchet
>Ironhide
>Brawn
>Wheeljack
>Cheetor
>Megatron
>Starscream
>Soundwave
>Shockwave
>Coneheads and seekers

>There might be more, it seems Cheetor is part of the film as a guardian of the artifact. I did not see his design, only for Prime, Bumblebee, Starscream, Soundwave and Megatron.

>The designs are updated. They are still bulky and thicker. Very G1. Nothing like Bayverse, the Bumblebee I saw has a face with a mouth and it looks cute. Megatron looks very big, he is taller than Prime and has his fusion cannon. Starscream has a new head, very sleek and G1 and humanoid. Soundwave has a body that makes him look like he transforms into some type of van, his head is more G1 now and updated. They are more detailed overall. Megatron also has a humanoid face with the bucket helmet thing. Apparently there will be some Cybertron scenes in the film, the planet will look the same as in Bumblebee. Optimus head is the same as in Bumblebee.

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Comment by Sabrblade Mar 27, 2021

it seems Cheetor is part of the film as a guardian of the artifact.

Gee, I wonder what it could be? :roll:

And that list looks eerily similar to the exact same cast who all cameoed in the opening Cybertron scene of the Bumblebee movie (plus Megatron and Cheetor).

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Comment by Whifflefire Mar 28, 2021

>Set after Bumblebee 2018 film, it acknowledges it but not the rest of Bayformers.

All I really needed to hear ;)^

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Comment by Deadput Mar 28, 2021

I'm taking this with a container of salt, could be true but there's also no reason to think this is true either.

There's quite a bit of details here, like anytime a movie rumor has a full/big cast of robots attached, it makes me suspicious like one of those fan-cast rosters.

Edit: Also a 4 Chan leak which are almost always wrong, there have been some true leaks there but most of the time it's just attention seeking.

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Comment by First-Aid Mar 28, 2021

Deadput wrote:I'm taking this with a container of salt, could be true but there's also no reason to think this is true either.

I whole container of salt? As a health care provider, I am professionally and morally obligated to say, "No, don't do that. THink of your blood pressure and the overall health of you kidneys, heart, small intestines, pancreas, and your left ring finger"...

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Comment by Sabrblade Mar 28, 2021

Whifflefire wrote:
>Set after Bumblebee 2018 film, it acknowledges it but not the rest of Bayformers.

All I really needed to hear

"Not acknowledging" still isn't the same thing as "contradicting".

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Comment by Whifflefire Mar 28, 2021

Sabrblade wrote:
Whifflefire wrote:
>Set after Bumblebee 2018 film, it acknowledges it but not the rest of Bayformers.

All I really needed to hear
"Not acknowledging" still isn't the same thing as "contradicting".

As long as this all means that "Bumblebee" is the start of a new series so that I can treat the original trilogy as a separate entity (and continue suppressing TLK), I'll be happy. Similarities are fine and to be expected, but I hope the film doesn't feel obliged to adhere to the 2007 trilogy's timeline. Here's hoping for some great new stories to come.

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Comment by Ultra Markus Mar 28, 2021

it seems they are doing the robot designs right this time
especially with starscream and megatron
i just hope the movie doesnt suck

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Comment by Sentinel_Primal Mar 28, 2021

I hope the rumor of the G1 inspired designs is wrong. I'm getting really tired of the "Evergreen" design philosophy. If you're doing new G1 media, then fine, use those designs, but if you're doing something entirely new, I feel like the designs should be new as well because otherwise everything might as well just be G1, and we lose new designs for classic characters like what came from Bayformers, UT, and to some extent Animated and Cyberverse.

Regardless of my opinion on designs however, if they can translate the designs well, and get good looking trailers out, this sounds interesting. Hopefully if they hire Peter Cullen and Frank Welker, they actually treat them well this time

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Comment by ck-jackson-j4zz Mar 28, 2021

I would very much like for them to include Jazz. This is Jazz erasure. He's Optimus' right hand bot (and also my personal favourite) and he seems to have been relegated to very small roles since the 07 movie. Prowl would be cool too, as I consider those two and Ironhide Prime's main lieutenants. Just my personal preference, though.

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Comment by Rodimus Knight Mar 29, 2021

Sabrblade wrote:
it seems Cheetor is part of the film as a guardian of the artifact.
Gee, I wonder what it could be?

And that list looks eerily similar to the exact same cast who all cameoed in the opening Cybertron scene of the Bumblebee movie (plus Megatron and Cheetor).

It would make some sense to use them since they already have the models worked up in the computer systems. I would assume that would save them a lot of money right there.

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Comment by TulioDude Mar 29, 2021

Rodimus Knight wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
it seems Cheetor is part of the film as a guardian of the artifact.
Gee, I wonder what it could be?

And that list looks eerily similar to the exact same cast who all cameoed in the opening Cybertron scene of the Bumblebee movie (plus Megatron and Cheetor).

It would make some sense to use them since they already have the models worked up in the computer systems. I would assume that would save them a lot of money right there.

That makes a lot of sense.

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Comment by Deadput Mar 29, 2021

Rodimus Knight wrote:It would make some sense to use them since they already have the models worked up in the computer systems. I would assume that would save them a lot of money right there.

Most of those designs would need to be heavily altered or changed entirely, take a closer look at the designs from Bumblebee, the only ones that look like they could transform to any type of convincing Earth vehicle with small edits are the ones that were designed as Earth-like vehicles first before the Cybertron sequence was even conceived which would be Optimus, Bumblebee, Shatter, Dropkick, Starscream/Blitzwing/Seekers.

The rest of the designs were "kitbashed" using these already existing models such as Shatter into Arcee, Bumblebee into Brawn or Optimus into Shockwave/Soundwave and quickly made in a few weeks, their not polished designs for main character roles. (Brawn, Shockwave and Soundwave are the worst in this regard, there's almost nothing about them that looks like they could transform, almost to the level of AOE Galvatron who had the point that they didn't transform traditionally anyways.)

The Earth mode versions would need to be almost entirely new designs bar things like head/hands/feet presuming they were not integrated with any vehicle parts, so the existing assets excuse only helps to a pretty minor extent.

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Comment by william-james88 Mar 29, 2021

They are all cybertronian, sharing similar structures makes sense for a common race.

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Comment by Sabrblade Mar 30, 2021

According to these links, Angel Manuel Soto used to play with Transformers toys when he was a kid, so we got a director who's a childhood fan now ascended to professional work on the brand.

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Comment by AllNewSuperRobot Mar 30, 2021

Deadput wrote:The rest of the designs were "kitbashed" using these already existing models such as Shatter into Arcee, Bumblebee into Brawn or Optimus into Shockwave/Soundwave and quickly made in a few weeks, their not polished designs for main character roles. (Brawn, Shockwave and Soundwave are the worst in this regard, there's almost nothing about them that looks like they could transform, almost to the level of AOE Galvatron who had the point that they didn't transform traditionally anyways.)

That, or just non-traditional altmodes? Akin to the Sunbow MTMTE pilot.

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Comment by Deadput Mar 30, 2021

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:That, or just non-traditional altmodes? Akin to the Sunbow MTMTE pilot.

I mean that as in they literally can't transform due to not having the panels or parts needed to transform.

Look at Brawn

There's not a part of him that looks like it could change, he looks like a terminator wearing armor.

It's not a transformable design much like Shockwave and Soundwave.

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Comment by AllNewSuperRobot Mar 30, 2021

I dunno, at a glance I could see his legs combining. Swinging up via the silver strip on his chest and creating a turret. With his arms as stability struts.

Not everything in Transformers has to be a vehicle.

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Comment by Deadput Mar 30, 2021

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I dunno, at a glance I could see his legs combining. Swinging up via the silver strip on his chest and creating a turret. With his arms as stability struts.

Not everything in Transformers has to be a vehicle.

Because a Cybertronian turret is a perfect disguise for Earth, when has a G1 inspired Brawn (the point of the designs) ever transform into something that wasn't a truck-like vehicle?

The point is that these designs were not created to ever transform and it shows, their rushed designs and are unlikely to be used as the base for the next movie besides small parts like heads and hands, if the characters show up the designs will likely be new even if they are equally as G1 inspired.

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Comment by AllNewSuperRobot Mar 30, 2021

Just a reminder: They gave a Protoform an altmode in Bayformers.

Plus, it doesn't matter what they looked like on Cybertron really. Rushed or otherwise. If they wanted these designs to transform in the BB movie, they would have regardless.

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Comment by Deadput Mar 30, 2021

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Just a reminder: They gave a Protoform an altmode in Bayformers.

Plus, it doesn't matter what they looked like on Cybertron really. Rushed or otherwise. If they wanted these designs to transform in the BB movie, they would have regardless.

Right and I'm just saying it doesn't matter if the Bumblebee designs existed to be used for the next movie if their not going to use much of anything from those designs, so it's almost exactly the same as if they were to make a Jazz design straight up from the grounds for the next movie, it would require almost the same amount of work.

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