Studio Series 86 News: 2025 Commander is Longhaul and Hook Boxset + Transformation Video for Prime
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We also have the news, from JTPrime17, that next year's commander will be a boxset including the remainder of SS86 Devastator. That would be Longhaul, Hook and combiner accessories. It means that the combiner will be finished within one year, made up of that boxset, two individually sold deluxes and two individually sold voyagers.
TRA GEN STUDIO SERIES COMMANDER 86 LONGHAUL & HOOK
Product Number: G0472
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Posted by SGMLordMirage on July 26th, 2024 @ 10:38pm CDT
Posted by Sowndwave76 on July 26th, 2024 @ 11:02pm CDT
But I’m very thankful that all six will be available within 6 months!
Posted by King Kuuga on July 26th, 2024 @ 11:20pm CDT
Congrats to everyone getting their Swoops in! He sold out on pulse so damn fast, I have an order with Springer on EE that's currently scheduled for October, hoping that gets pushed up.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 26th, 2024 @ 11:27pm CDT
I'm wondering if the decision to sell the last two as a Commander class set was possibly because they might have run out of Voyager/Leader slots for the line, opting to go with other Voyagers/Leaders to add more diversity to the line to avoid having too many green & purple guys on the shelves at the same time.Sowndwave76 wrote:I know it makes sense in terms of cost, but I am a little surprised those last two Constructicons will be sold as a CC set… Mainly because CC’s have usually been more difficult to get.
But I’m very thankful that all six will be available within 6 months!

Posted by skidflap on July 26th, 2024 @ 11:32pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:I'm wondering if the decision to sell the last two as a Commander class set was possibly because they might have run out of Voyager/Leader slots for the line, opting to go with other Voyagers/Leaders to add more diversity to the line to avoid having too many green & purple guys on the shelves at the same time.Sowndwave76 wrote:I know it makes sense in terms of cost, but I am a little surprised those last two Constructicons will be sold as a CC set… Mainly because CC’s have usually been more difficult to get.
But I’m very thankful that all six will be available within 6 months!
I feel it might be due to engineering reasons. Long Haul and Hook being the lower torso/upper body means they have to hold together. Plus being CC means they can be on par in terms of detail without sacrificing design.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 26th, 2024 @ 11:38pm CDT
Yes, but, they are being sold together for the cost of a single Commander release. Individually they might have worked as two Voyager-sized Leaders, so that's why I'm thinking Hasbro may have not wanted to take up two more Leader class slots for them both.skidflap wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I'm wondering if the decision to sell the last two as a Commander class set was possibly because they might have run out of Voyager/Leader slots for the line, opting to go with other Voyagers/Leaders to add more diversity to the line to avoid having too many green & purple guys on the shelves at the same time.Sowndwave76 wrote:I know it makes sense in terms of cost, but I am a little surprised those last two Constructicons will be sold as a CC set… Mainly because CC’s have usually been more difficult to get.
But I’m very thankful that all six will be available within 6 months!
I feel it might be due to engineering reasons. Long Haul and Hook being the lower torso/upper body means they have to hold together. Plus being CC means they can be on par in terms of detail without sacrificing design.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on July 27th, 2024 @ 3:29am CDT
It would have allowed those who wanted them to get them all at once, and it would have freed up deluxe, voyager and the CC slot for next year. Unless they had no other huge TF in mind for it. *coughcoughPMPrimecoughcough*
Posted by Asepticon on July 27th, 2024 @ 3:34am CDT
Posted by Emerje on July 27th, 2024 @ 10:07am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Yes, but, they are being sold together for the cost of a single Commander release. Individually they might have worked as two Voyager-sized Leaders, so that's why I'm thinking Hasbro may have not wanted to take up two more Leader class slots for them both.skidflap wrote:Sabrblade wrote:I'm wondering if the decision to sell the last two as a Commander class set was possibly because they might have run out of Voyager/Leader slots for the line, opting to go with other Voyagers/Leaders to add more diversity to the line to avoid having too many green & purple guys on the shelves at the same time.Sowndwave76 wrote:I know it makes sense in terms of cost, but I am a little surprised those last two Constructicons will be sold as a CC set… Mainly because CC’s have usually been more difficult to get.
But I’m very thankful that all six will be available within 6 months!
I feel it might be due to engineering reasons. Long Haul and Hook being the lower torso/upper body means they have to hold together. Plus being CC means they can be on par in terms of detail without sacrificing design.
Doesn't this work out better in our favor? Two Leaders would cost us $110, but a Commander is $90, saving us $20, we should be thankful for that.
Rodimus Prime wrote:They should have sold all the Constructicons together as next year's titan, like they did with CW Devy. We haven't had a SS86 titan yet.
You kinda answered your own question at the end, there's only one Titan slot at retail per year and it goes to the "main line", and that will likely be Primus (or someone else related to him since a lot of people think Primus is the next HasLab) to go with the 13 Primes theme. Plus we'll almost certainly be getting a toy-style box set like the Stunticons later. Also, people are weird and would be upset if "Titan" was associated with a 12" combiner even if it did save us money in the long run.
Emerje
Posted by Tyrannacon on July 27th, 2024 @ 10:52am CDT
Posted by Nemesis Primal on July 27th, 2024 @ 11:10am CDT
SS86 Megs is Wave 3 of next year, we aren't hearing about him in an official capacity until next April/May.Tyrannacon wrote:I was hoping SDCC would have revealed more about SS86 Megatron, but the weekend is still young so hopefully something happens...
Posted by Emerje on July 27th, 2024 @ 11:19am CDT
Tyrannacon wrote:I was hoping SDCC would have revealed more about SS86 Megatron, but the weekend is still young so hopefully something happens...
I'm honestly surprised they said anything at all about the Constructicons, especially the Commander Class considering it's only been a few weeks since they officially announced Prime! That's just crazy!
Emerje
Posted by Sowndwave76 on July 27th, 2024 @ 1:01pm CDT
Bonecrusher and Scavenger are most likely only including their own, small blaster weapons; Of course each could involve a built-in, extra part for combining, but imo there's no way that forearm pieces or hands can be included at the deluxe price point.
These arm bots basically utilize their alt modes for the combined form, so I hope a good portion of their budget has gone to size.
The Constructicons aren't too much shorter than Soundwave, so fingers crossed these are slightly larger deluxes, relatively speaking.
I'm assuming the combined form will probably be the same height as Menasor, but I don't think anyone would be mad if Devastator was a bit taller.
Obviously the leg bots are basically triple changers. I'm predicting that the upper thigh parts for Devy are separate pieces that are included with the CC pacakge... For one, I don't want to see these two suffer like the leg bots of Titan Predaking with large parts of kibble. Not to mention, I don't see how having those parts permanently attached to those figures would even work (for either mode).
With this, if the thighs are separate, then Long Haul is freed from both of those pieces and his design won't have to be compromised as much.
The budget for Scrapper and Mixmaster should be devoted to engineering; not super easy, but I'm betting Devy has ankle tilt/rocker joints.
Also, these two are going to need to be really stable to support the other bots and help with pose-ability when combined. So again, the budget can't be stretched to any combiner parts; it all has to go towards the figures themselves.
Basically the same can be said for the last two of the CC package.
I'll add in this opinion-- I truly don't care if the combiner parts for Devastator are used for anything else. At all. I don't need or want the upper thigh or forearm parts to be extra "weapons". I don't need the large chest plate to function as "a pair of wings". I get if these parts double as other stuff, it adds "play value". But for me, pieces that are specific for a combiner can serve that one, single purpose... And that's more than okay. Transforming figures... Multiple figures that combine to a much bigger bot... That's more than enough gimmick for me. This is probably an unpopular opinion, but I don't need Devastator's head to be a part of Hook. That's not an easy part to hide in a figure that doesn't have a lot of bulk in either mode.
Back to the CC package; it's essentially going to be two voyagers, especially in terms of engineering ($70), and all of the combiner parts ($20).
Imo, if it doesn't include all of those pieces, then it's too much of a stretch to be a CC release.
I have really high hopes for this set... One specifically is that the individual bots are quality figures. I'm so ready to get two sets.
Saborblade, I think you could be right. We're also talking six figures unlike most combiners made up of five. Along with all of the contents working in terms of price point, CC helps to complete the set sooner, and frees up two other slots in SS.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on July 27th, 2024 @ 2:50pm CDT
Devy will be ONLY 12"? Are you sure? (Unless I missed the info) That's way too small! As is, the CW version scales well with the leader Dinobots, so if I do get this new Devastator, he won't be on my movie shelf.Rodimus Prime wrote:They should have sold all the Constructicons together as next year's titan, like they did with CW Devy. We haven't had a SS86 titan yet.
You kinda answered your own question at the end, there's only one Titan slot at retail per year and it goes to the "main line", and that will likely be Primus (or someone else related to him since a lot of people think Primus is the next HasLab) to go with the 13 Primes theme. Plus we'll almost certainly be getting a toy-style box set like the Stunticons later. Also, people are weird and would be upset if "Titan" was associated with a 12" combiner even if it did save us money in the long run.
And Primus SHOULD be a HasLab instead of taking up a Titan slot.
Posted by Emerje on July 27th, 2024 @ 3:19pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:Devy will be ONLY 12"? Are you sure? (Unless I missed the info) That's way too small! As is, the CW version scales well with the leader Dinobots, so if I do get this new Devastator, he won't be on my movie shelf.Rodimus Prime wrote:They should have sold all the Constructicons together as next year's titan, like they did with CW Devy. We haven't had a SS86 titan yet.
You kinda answered your own question at the end, there's only one Titan slot at retail per year and it goes to the "main line", and that will likely be Primus (or someone else related to him since a lot of people think Primus is the next HasLab) to go with the 13 Primes theme. Plus we'll almost certainly be getting a toy-style box set like the Stunticons later. Also, people are weird and would be upset if "Titan" was associated with a 12" combiner even if it did save us money in the long run.
12" is the current standard for combiners across everything (aside from Core, obviously). Even MPG Raiden is 12" and doesn't scale well at all with other MPs as a result, they wanted him to be the same size as the Generations combiners.
Emerje
Posted by Sowndwave76 on July 27th, 2024 @ 3:30pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:Devy will be ONLY 12"? Are you sure? (Unless I missed the info) That's way too small! As is, the CW version scales well with the leader Dinobots, so if I do get this new Devastator, he won't be on my movie shelf.
I almost mentioned this in my last post, but it was long enough...
Unfortunately, this new Devastator is not going to scale real well with the Dinobots. Even if it's closer to 15", that will still look too small.
Think about it; the limb bots could be larger than the Menasor limb bots. But in combined form, those benefitted from Motormaster's trailer. Devy's arms will be the construction vehicles with the added forearm parts and hands. Scrapper and Mixmaster will need the extra thigh parts to make legs that are as long as Menasor's. Even stacked together, Hook and Long Haul will basically be the same height as Menasor's torso.
I'll be shocked if this Devy is 15" tall. Happy for sure, but shocked.
My Menasor is 13" and that's because of the add-on kit I have.
The silver lining is that I'd guarantee this new version will overall look just as good, be more stable, and easier to pose than the CW offering.
I'm betting (but can't guarantee) that the individual bots are better overall; the likenesses will be on point, Long Haul won't stick-out as an oddball, and the articulation of all six will be much better than the CW versions.
There has been more than enough from Hastak to legitimately build my confidence.
And while no mainline figure is ever perfect, there's no way we're getting a combiner in 2025 that isn't really good.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 27th, 2024 @ 3:55pm CDT
Posted by Sowndwave76 on July 27th, 2024 @ 4:26pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Are people really mad about Legacy Menasor's height in comparison to the SS86 Leader class Dinobots?
Not that I’ve seen/read…
Which imo is a sign that it hasn’t been a big deal, or at least not a big enough deal for lots of people to complain about.
Posted by Sabrblade on July 27th, 2024 @ 5:07pm CDT
And it makes sense for Devastator to be about the same height as Menasor, yes?Sowndwave76 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Are people really mad about Legacy Menasor's height in comparison to the SS86 Leader class Dinobots?
Not that I’ve seen/read…
Which imo is a sign that it hasn’t been a big deal, or at least not a big enough deal for lots of people to complain about.
Posted by Sowndwave76 on July 27th, 2024 @ 6:10pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:And it makes sense for Devastator to be about the same height as Menasor, yes?Sowndwave76 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Are people really mad about Legacy Menasor's height in comparison to the SS86 Leader class Dinobots?
Not that I’ve seen/read…
Which imo is a sign that it hasn’t been a big deal, or at least not a big enough deal for lots of people to complain about.
That depends…
Sure, if you’re looking at SS86 as a subline that should be a continuation of and/or be aligned with those G1 releases of the mainline.
But not necessarily, if you’re one who thinks everything in SS86 should scale with each other…. Every box minus Core class says something to the effect of, “Detail, scale, backdrop”.
I’m going to be okay if this Devy is the same size as Legacy Menasor.
If he’s bigger, great. But I’m not going to be bothered either way.
Especially because I’m confident this is going to be a really good set of figures with a solid combined mode.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 28th, 2024 @ 1:49pm CDT
I am extremely disappointed in a 3rd G1 SS commander slot, I hate that live action commanders have to wait until as least 2026.
For those who want an animation accurate Devastator, or the best individual bots, go SS. Otherwise, CW/UW is the best for combined mode / scale. It is why I will pass on the new Devastator until they do a G2 redeco. I said it then and I will say it now: Titan scales best for the combined mode, 12" for the individuals.
Pretty confident that Primus is not next years titan either. I have heard rumors that next year's Generations mainline titan will be a guy who has never gotten a toy before.
As for movie titans, I would truly only accept SS titans as long as we get a DotM Driller, I don't care if they do G1 titans in SS, so long as the Driller gets a toy. And if possible, I really would not mind a live action Ark, DotM Con ship, or Lockdown bounty ship in the same manner as the Ark and Nemesis.
Moving on, i did get Swoop. He is pretty nice. and he nicely completes my pattern of loving the odd numbered release dinobots and hating the even number releases. Swoop is really good, and probably my 2nd favorite after Grimlock. I really hope we get a red release now for my Beast Wars shelf.


Posted by SpaceEagle on July 29th, 2024 @ 3:29pm CDT
I know having a skeleton like Menasor would probably ease engineering concerns with the individual bots as well as hew closer to the cartoon look...
But I still would find that rather lame personally...
Probably just bias since I think Devy's cartoon model looks terrible and very poorly defined, but even then I feel like that takes away the magic of it being a combiner. I mean heck, the fact Menasor can more or less be "formed" and played with only using Motormaster just felt really lame personally. Made me appreciate the CW one even more.
I still hope the individual bots get the most focus in any capacity however, my biggest gripe with CW Devy (and by extension, PotP Predaking) was the focus being devoted to size and therefore the individual bots felt realllllllly underbaked and almost too simplistic just for the engineering to work with that budget.
Posted by First-Aid on July 29th, 2024 @ 4:03pm CDT
SpaceEagle wrote:
Probably just bias since I think Devy's cartoon model looks terrible and very poorly defined
THIS THIS THIS THIS A MILLION TIMES OVER THIS! Dev was a terrifically lame combiner in animation. I will NEVER understand this driving need to be animation accurate when it whitewashes so many little details seen on the individual bots. He's just....BLAND.
Posted by SpaceEagle on July 29th, 2024 @ 4:06pm CDT
First-Aid wrote:SpaceEagle wrote:
Probably just bias since I think Devy's cartoon model looks terrible and very poorly defined
THIS THIS THIS THIS A MILLION TIMES OVER THIS! Dev was a terrifically lame combiner in animation. I will NEVER understand this driving need to be animation accurate when it whitewashes so many little details seen on the individual bots. He's just....BLAND.
I will admit I'm biased against 'toon accuracy in general, but I also understand the desire for something to match the robot they saw on the screen.
That being said, I'm sure that they're gonna give him extra detail because they also know all the kids out there will be really confused when their big christmas present is lacking in detail compared to all the other bots their parents got 'em lol
Posted by Roadbuster on July 29th, 2024 @ 4:12pm CDT
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Posted by Sowndwave76 on July 30th, 2024 @ 12:06am CDT
Starting with SS86 Springer...
While I am happy overall with this version, I'm going to explain my slight frustration with this figure. Which is what we get for this price of almost $60. I understand the extras may get this release to leader class price point. However, I'll always prefer a figure's budget be solely devoted to the figure in any way possible before getting any extra accessories outside of the character's main weapon(s).
Here's what I was envisioning for this figure-- when it was revealed that this was an "upscaling" of the Siege mold, I was hoping that any parts from that would literally be the same but larger. Springer should be as large as Optimus Prime. Now, if this wasn't going to be possible, I would've liked this new Springer to have been at least closer to what we're seeing from SS86 Prime in terms of height.
I do get that making all of the parts larger, even the unchanged Siege parts, is probably like making a new mold. But the design and engineering were already there... If this couldn't be a brand new mold, I wish it could have been larger.
I do completely appreciate the retooling/new parts, and know it's a legitimate improvement in terms of appearance. And for this release specifically, that's far and away the more important aspect for me. The new parts are a solid improvement. Of course, a face and head sculpt that captures the character well is huge. It's still kind of crazy to me that SS86 Kup and Blurr didn't have better faces... Anyway, Hastak nailed this aspect for this Springer. And the last improvement worth mentioning are the colors. I'm sure some don't care about this, but for me, this really does make a very substantial difference.
Sidenote; assuming SS86 Galvatron is a straight repaint, if the Red-violet of the Kingdom/Legacy version is replaced by the accurate tone of Blue-violet, then I'll get this repaint no question. As much as I like that mold, it never seemed right to me in that raspberry color. All this to say, I really appreciate that Hastak put so much effort into adjusting the colors for this new Springer.
I'm really happy with this figure, and I'm going to be even happier about this purchase once I sell my Siege version.
Next, I just want to briefly praise SS86 Bumblebee. Now, my critique is probably slightly influenced by the fact that this is the first earth mode G1 version I've had of this character since Classics. And after not being able to get the NF version, of course I wanted this figure to be great. However, I'm good at being objective, on top of the fact that Bee has never been one of my favorite characters.
This is a fantastic little figure. I'm very happy to have this in my collection, and this is one that I'd highly recommend.
Posted by Tyrannacon on July 31st, 2024 @ 6:52pm CDT
Nemesis Primal wrote:SS86 Megs is Wave 3 of next year, we aren't hearing about him in an official capacity until next April/May.Tyrannacon wrote:I was hoping SDCC would have revealed more about SS86 Megatron, but the weekend is still young so hopefully something happens...
For some reason I thought he was coming earlier than that, but that would explain why there wasn't anything.
Emerje wrote:Tyrannacon wrote:I was hoping SDCC would have revealed more about SS86 Megatron, but the weekend is still young so hopefully something happens...
I'm honestly surprised they said anything at all about the Constructicons, especially the Commander Class considering it's only been a few weeks since they officially announced Prime! That's just crazy!
Emerje
Yeah, that's exactly why I thought SS86 Megatron would've been previewed or talked about a bit. Oh well.
Posted by Sowndwave76 on July 31st, 2024 @ 10:12pm CDT
Tyrannacon wrote:Nemesis Primal wrote:SS86 Megs is Wave 3 of next year, we aren't hearing about him in an official capacity until next April/May.Tyrannacon wrote:I was hoping SDCC would have revealed more about SS86 Megatron, but the weekend is still young so hopefully something happens...
For some reason I thought he was coming earlier than that, but that would explain why there wasn't anything.Emerje wrote:Tyrannacon wrote:I was hoping SDCC would have revealed more about SS86 Megatron, but the weekend is still young so hopefully something happens...
I'm honestly surprised they said anything at all about the Constructicons, especially the Commander Class considering it's only been a few weeks since they officially announced Prime! That's just crazy!
Emerje
Yeah, that's exactly why I thought SS86 Megatron would've been previewed or talked about a bit. Oh well.
Obviously this could be wrong, but I seem to remember SS86 Galvatron is wave 1 (which has been confirmed) & SS86 Megatron is wave 2…
Personally I was hoping Megs would be wave 2 so we could have him before the Constructicons were released. And of course it would be nice in general to get him sooner.
Posted by Nemesis Primal on August 2nd, 2024 @ 6:06pm CDT
Last wave breakdowns we got said 86 Galvatron and RotB Apelinq Wave 1, AoE Optimus and DotM Shockwave repack Wave 2, 86 Megatron Wave 3, and 86 Grimlock repack Wave 4. Obviously this still has time to end up potentially changing between now and then (see: the 2 different listings we've had now for Legacy Sureshot that seem to have not panned out), that's just what we have currently to go off of.Sowndwave76 wrote:Tyrannacon wrote:Nemesis Primal wrote:SS86 Megs is Wave 3 of next year, we aren't hearing about him in an official capacity until next April/May.Tyrannacon wrote:I was hoping SDCC would have revealed more about SS86 Megatron, but the weekend is still young so hopefully something happens...
For some reason I thought he was coming earlier than that, but that would explain why there wasn't anything.Emerje wrote:Tyrannacon wrote:I was hoping SDCC would have revealed more about SS86 Megatron, but the weekend is still young so hopefully something happens...
I'm honestly surprised they said anything at all about the Constructicons, especially the Commander Class considering it's only been a few weeks since they officially announced Prime! That's just crazy!
Emerje
Yeah, that's exactly why I thought SS86 Megatron would've been previewed or talked about a bit. Oh well.
Obviously this could be wrong, but I seem to remember SS86 Galvatron is wave 1 (which has been confirmed) & SS86 Megatron is wave 2…
Personally I was hoping Megs would be wave 2 so we could have him before the Constructicons were released. And of course it would be nice in general to get him sooner.
The wave breakdown in question: https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... oys/48114/
Posted by Sowndwave76 on August 3rd, 2024 @ 8:34pm CDT
I'm looking forward to getting official word from Hastak about the Constructicons. I asked about the info in the image below (posted on Instagram), and supposedly this was shown at SDCC... Weird that there's a typo, but this also contradicts a couple of the leaked listings by saying they're all voyager class. I'm taking the "figures released separately" bullet point to just mean that this isn't a 6-in-1 gift set; the CC two pack has been confirmed.
Posted by Emerje on August 4th, 2024 @ 8:24am CDT
Sowndwave76 wrote:Yeah, I either am remembering wrong, or saw something that had Megatron listed incorrectly.
I'm looking forward to getting official word from Hastak about the Constructicons. I asked about the info in the image below (posted on Instagram), and supposedly this was shown at SDCC... Weird that there's a typo, but this also contradicts a couple of the leaked listings by saying they're all voyager class. I'm taking the "figures released separately" bullet point to just mean that this isn't a 6-in-1 gift set; the CC two pack has been confirmed.
TFormers made that graphic and admitted they were paraphrasing from the SDCC panel and got some stuff wrong like the part about them all being Voyagers when everyone else heard the same thing that was leaked.
Emerje
Posted by ScottyP on August 5th, 2024 @ 7:56am CDT

86 Devy has got to be hell mode difficulty for the TF team. If you're really going for "86" style Devastator, that's the biggest and meanest possible choice. You just made pretty darn large Dinobots that probably have 0 chance of correctly scaling to it unless you make it very close to, maybe slightly larger than CW size, but can that fit into today's budgets? How will this new team possibly satisfy when they have the challenge of turning from robots to construction vehicles to a combiner to increased share prices?
Quick edit - just rewatched the Dinobots v Devastator scene and the scaling is all over the place, ofc. I think my preferred one would be "Mixmaster is almost Grimlock sized" but expecting "Slag is just barely up to the knees"
Posted by Rtron on August 5th, 2024 @ 8:20am CDT
ScottyP wrote:So in other words, they just made stuff up![]()
86 Devy has got to be hell mode difficulty for the TF team. If you're really going for "86" style Devastator, that's the biggest and meanest possible choice. You just made pretty darn large Dinobots that probably have 0 chance of correctly scaling to it unless you make it very close to, maybe slightly larger than CW size, but can that fit into today's budgets? How will this new team possibly satisfy when they have the challenge of turning from robots to construction vehicles to a combiner to increased share prices?
Quick edit - just rewatched the Dinobots v Devastator scene and the scaling is all over the place, ofc. I think my preferred one would be "Mixmaster is almost Grimlock sized" but expecting "Slag is just barely up to the knees"
Lol, that last paragraph is why I never get the obsession with precise scale, specially when it comes to G1 toys. The show and comics themselves didn't have any scale beyond "this guy is USUALLY bigger than this other guy, and how much taller he is will change scene to scene". I get there's charts and stuff, but evidently those were barely followed in practice.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 5th, 2024 @ 8:57am CDT
But like I said before: with the new combiners, I am awaiting repaints, preferably G2, for each. my CW will be good for the main events.
Posted by SGMLordMirage on August 5th, 2024 @ 9:26am CDT
SGM
Posted by william-james88 on August 5th, 2024 @ 1:18pm CDT
The answer is no, there won’t be a new mold. IF we ever get a SS86 Rodimus Prime, it would be a redeco of the previous commander toy, or a slight retool of that toy.
This was confirmed by Evan Brooks, one of Hasbro’s designers for the Studio Series line. He also stated that once the SS86 subline/collection is complete, they could fill that void with a comic inspired subline. This was a response to a question asked by TFW’s IronWaveJRG.
Of course none of this confirms that we are getting an SS86 Rodimus or comic inspired toys soon, this is just to set expectations as to what you won’t be getting in case some thought a fully new Optimus meant a fully new Rodimus.

Posted by cloudballoon on August 5th, 2024 @ 2:55pm CDT
My major problem with it is really only some tabbing and weapon storage issues with the trailer, I doubt those issues justify for shelling out another Commander-class money for a replacement. But a trailer-less Voyager/Leader retool for a proper Rodimus Unicronus? Absolutely!
Posted by Quantum Surge on August 5th, 2024 @ 2:58pm CDT
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on August 5th, 2024 @ 4:55pm CDT
SGMLordMirage wrote:A G2 orange Devastator would be cool to have.
SGM
People were expecting all sorts of repaints of the CW release that never came.
Posted by o.supreme on August 5th, 2024 @ 5:59pm CDT
Posted by Sowndwave76 on August 5th, 2024 @ 7:25pm CDT
I’m not sure about a reissue or retooled RP…. I won’t get it no matter what, especially if it’s $90-$100.
No way no day.
I’ve brought it up before, but I really don’t know what the plan is to “celebrate” the 40th anniversary of the ’86 movie…. I won’t throw-out my speculations again in this post. But there isn’t much of anything left to make/release.
I really would have thought Megatron, Devy, & even the CC Optimus would’ve been held back for ‘26…
I’m fully prepared for a half-a$$ed group of reissues/repaints…. And from there, it will just depend on these “movie appearances” as to whether or not I bite.
Kup, Cliffjumper, Arcee, Ironhide, Blaster, & Springer all made the cut for me. I’m assuming Galvatron will as well.
Not sure I’d go for repainted Insecticons or not…. The Legacy versions are pretty solid.
I’ve already started thinking that next year will really be my last for collecting…. I’ll keep an eye on what’s happening for ‘26, but I’m not expecting much. Although it’ll be interesting to see if Hastak continues with combiners.
Posted by ScottyP on August 5th, 2024 @ 7:27pm CDT
Yeah scale can be fun, but vibes > scale probably matters more once we start getting into extremes like Combiners.Rtron wrote:
Lol, that last paragraph is why I never get the obsession with precise scale, specially when it comes to G1 toys. The show and comics themselves didn't have any scale beyond "this guy is USUALLY bigger than this other guy, and how much taller he is will change scene to scene". I get there's charts and stuff, but evidently those were barely followed in practice.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 6th, 2024 @ 7:27am CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:SGMLordMirage wrote:A G2 orange Devastator would be cool to have.
SGM
People were expecting all sorts of repaints of the CW release that never came.
I am still OK with not getting the repaint, I don't need the G1 style again. If I get the G2 cool, if not, no big deal.
Posted by First-Aid on August 6th, 2024 @ 8:18am CDT
ScottyP wrote:Yeah scale can be fun, but vibes > scale probably matters more once we start getting into extremes like Combiners.Rtron wrote:
Lol, that last paragraph is why I never get the obsession with precise scale, specially when it comes to G1 toys. The show and comics themselves didn't have any scale beyond "this guy is USUALLY bigger than this other guy, and how much taller he is will change scene to scene". I get there's charts and stuff, but evidently those were barely followed in practice.
Actually he SHOULD scale well with the Dinobots. If you really want to nitpick, Megatron in bot mode comes to about the waistline (maybe a bit lower). When Dev is on the ground, Slag is nearly as long as Devs is tall. Sludge IS that tall. That makes the CW version TOO BIG for "proper" scale from the 86 movie. 12-13 inches is about right.
Posted by Emerje on August 6th, 2024 @ 10:44am CDT
About the Constructicons and Dinobots, I'm not concerned about the scale since, if what TFSource said is actually true, this is the scale they're going for:

Anybody got Sludge and Legacy Menasor handy?
Emerje
Posted by Slashercon on August 6th, 2024 @ 2:37pm CDT
Don't mind the minor mess in the background. Anyway, I personally wish all the combiner's were closer to POTP Predaking's size, but that's neither here or there. Speaking solely on Devestator, as long as he's even a tiny bit taller than Menasor, I think the scale as pictured should work just fine.Emerje wrote:I'm thinking If they do add some minor retooling to Kingdom Rodimus for SS86 it'll be entirely in the figure since the trailer really doesn't need any changes. I think changing the head to be more like the cartoon, the backpack so it blends better stylistically with with the trailer and a more cartoon-like back wing. I think some of the greebling like on the arms and legs can be overlooked.
About the Constructicons and Dinobots, I'm not concerned about the scale since, if what TFSource said is actually true, this is the scale they're going for:
Anybody got Sludge and Legacy Menasor handy?
Emerje
Posted by o.supreme on August 6th, 2024 @ 3:12pm CDT
Slashercon wrote:I personally wish all the combiner's were closer to POTP Predaking's size, but that's neither here or there. Speaking solely on Devestator, as long as he's even a tiny bit taller than Menasor, I think the scale as pictured should work just fine.
Scale has always been tricky with TF's. I think when CW came out in 2015, the scale of the Combiners was a fair representation of the time. Hoever since WFC things have started upscaling. Minibots & Insecticons for instance that were once Legends/Core class are now deluxes. Many characters previously scaled as Deluxe are now Voyagers etc.... So NOW a decade later CW/UW Dev & PotP Predaking are more in-line with the modern take, then they were when they were first released....
However as someone who owns all the Combiners from the CW/UW/PotP era (30+) I'm not about to throw all that away. I was almost certain SS86 Dev was going to be as big or BIGGER than CW/UW (its certainly more expensive
