Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch

Maybe put a Powermaster on the chest? More blocky G1 style truck cab?

You know, Takara, I'm getting really tired of buying more than one of these figures because of your awesome remolds and paint....

In that case, I might hold off on PMOP then. I think the cab looks okay, but I certainly would've taken the blockiness of the original. Ginrai, thy must deliver!

Delta Magnus wrote:So Ginrai is getting heavy retooling from PMOP huh? Sounds like it could be Devastator all over again.

Could be, but at least PMOP doesn't have omissions on the level of the Constructicon elbows (but I wouldn't be surprised if the leg modifications include ankle tilts).

Looking at the picture, it looks like the may have the arm panels hinge higher up so that they aren't underneath his hands. This could allow for wrist swivels, but would leave him without that grip he needs to hold his guns better.

The chest does look different too. At first I thought, "what's the point," since it's not like they still need to distinguish it from Ultra Magnus (they way Takara distinguished their Technobots from their earlier mold partners). Then I realized it: they're different characters (duh) ; giving them distinct chests gives us an excuse to get both to represent the two side-by-side.

Well played.

Delta Magnus wrote:

Randomus wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:So Ginrai is getting heavy retooling from PMOP huh? Sounds like it could be Devastator all over again.

Could be, but at least PMOP doesn't have omissions on the level of the Constructicon elbows (but I wouldn't be surprised if the leg modifications include ankle tilts).

Looking at the picture, it looks like the may have the arm panels hinge higher up so that they aren't underneath his hands. This could allow for wrist swivels, but would leave him without that grip he needs to hold his guns better.

The chest does look different too. At first I thought, "what's the point," since it's not like they still need to distinguish it from Ultra Magnus (they way Takara distinguished their Technobots from their earlier mold partners). Then I realized it: they're different characters (duh) ; giving them distinct chests gives us an excuse to get both to represent the two side-by-side.

Well played.

Well PMOP has nasty hollow arms, no ankle tilts (as you mentioned) and no wrist swivels so hopefully they'll be on the agenda for upgrading.

I don't know about the arms; they still look hollow in the sketch, and I can't recall any other instance where Takara went back and filled in forearms or thighs. Masterpiece aside, I think both companies are equally guilty of 3-sided limbs (which makes sense since the toys are designed jointly).

...WOAH.

Mindmaster wrote:Somebody snuck in and got this.

Well, okay, Delta, there you go. (In my defense, that's not how the inner forearms are shaped in the sketch.)

Looks like since they were redesigning the hands to swivel, they took the opportunity to make the roof panels a each separate piece and face the open side of the forearms into them. Higher parts count, but less paint.

Mindmaster wrote:Somebody snuck in and got this.

Shiiiiiiiiiiirts. I feel like I should wait for this guy instead of PMOP..

...aren't a few of those the Hasbro versions?

Super Ginrai: I need you in my life. I adore masterforce and Ginrai and this is superb. They didn't need to do half of these upgrades but I guess with Ginrai you go all out or go home

Other pics: anyone else notice a distinct lack of fortress/cerebros figures?

ZeroWolf wrote:Other pics: anyone else notice a distinct lack of fortress/cerebros figures?

Remember, the Hasbro Cerebros/Emissary figure uses the US cartoon head design with the mouthplate which does not match the toy at all. TakaraTomy must want to keep their retool a surprise.