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Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch

Transformers News: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch

Saturday, June 11th, 2016 8:58AM CDT

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Soon enough after reporting the rumour which really wasn't about Legends God Ginrai, we have some confirmation fuel from Takara Tomy designer and unofficial PR machine Hisashi Yuki over on Twitter. Fellow staff member Hellscream9999 notifies us of the Super Jinrai sketch, as part of the Legends series - Yuki seems to lament the non-MP choice, but also seems happy enough to ask for support for the line. Check it out below!

Transformers News: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1796793)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 11th, 2016 @ 9:07am CDT
Hm, based on that artwork, it looks to still be Super Ginrai rather than God Ginrai. No visible Godbomber armor components.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1796794)
Posted by Agamemnon on June 11th, 2016 @ 9:15am CDT
Maybe put a Powermaster on the chest? More blocky G1 style truck cab?

You know, Takara, I'm getting really tired of buying more than one of these figures because of your awesome remolds and paint.... #-o
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1796798)
Posted by william-james88 on June 11th, 2016 @ 9:40am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Hm, based on that artwork, it looks to still be Super Ginrai rather than God Ginrai. No visible Godbomber armor components.

Yup, and you know, how they wrote Super Ginrai on it ;)
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1796803)
Posted by Mindmaster on June 11th, 2016 @ 10:14am CDT
In that case, I might hold off on PMOP then. I think the cab looks okay, but I certainly would've taken the blockiness of the original. Ginrai, thy must deliver!
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1796828)
Posted by Evil Eye on June 11th, 2016 @ 12:11pm CDT
So Ginrai is getting heavy retooling from PMOP huh? Sounds like it could be Devastator all over again.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1796849)
Posted by Gunmetal on June 11th, 2016 @ 1:26pm CDT
Delta Magnus wrote:So Ginrai is getting heavy retooling from PMOP huh? Sounds like it could be Devastator all over again.
Could be, but at least PMOP doesn't have omissions on the level of the Constructicon elbows (but I wouldn't be surprised if the leg modifications include ankle tilts).

Looking at the picture, it looks like the may have the arm panels hinge higher up so that they aren't underneath his hands. This could allow for wrist swivels, but would leave him without that grip he needs to hold his guns better.

The chest does look different too. At first I thought, "what's the point," since it's not like they still need to distinguish it from Ultra Magnus (they way Takara distinguished their Technobots from their earlier mold partners). Then I realized it: they're different characters (duh) #-o ; giving them distinct chests gives us an excuse to get both to represent the two side-by-side.

Well played.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1796850)
Posted by Evil Eye on June 11th, 2016 @ 1:28pm CDT
Randomus wrote:
Delta Magnus wrote:So Ginrai is getting heavy retooling from PMOP huh? Sounds like it could be Devastator all over again.
Could be, but at least PMOP doesn't have omissions on the level of the Constructicon elbows (but I wouldn't be surprised if the leg modifications include ankle tilts).

Looking at the picture, it looks like the may have the arm panels hinge higher up so that they aren't underneath his hands. This could allow for wrist swivels, but would leave him without that grip he needs to hold his guns better.

The chest does look different too. At first I thought, "what's the point," since it's not like they still need to distinguish it from Ultra Magnus (they way Takara distinguished their Technobots from their earlier mold partners). Then I realized it: they're different characters (duh) #-o ; giving them distinct chests gives us an excuse to get both to represent the two side-by-side.

Well played.

Well PMOP has nasty hollow arms, no ankle tilts (as you mentioned) and no wrist swivels so hopefully they'll be on the agenda for upgrading.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1796852)
Posted by Gunmetal on June 11th, 2016 @ 1:54pm CDT
Delta Magnus wrote:
Randomus wrote:
Delta Magnus wrote:So Ginrai is getting heavy retooling from PMOP huh? Sounds like it could be Devastator all over again.
Could be, but at least PMOP doesn't have omissions on the level of the Constructicon elbows (but I wouldn't be surprised if the leg modifications include ankle tilts).

Looking at the picture, it looks like the may have the arm panels hinge higher up so that they aren't underneath his hands. This could allow for wrist swivels, but would leave him without that grip he needs to hold his guns better.

The chest does look different too. At first I thought, "what's the point," since it's not like they still need to distinguish it from Ultra Magnus (they way Takara distinguished their Technobots from their earlier mold partners). Then I realized it: they're different characters (duh) #-o ; giving them distinct chests gives us an excuse to get both to represent the two side-by-side.

Well played.

Well PMOP has nasty hollow arms, no ankle tilts (as you mentioned) and no wrist swivels so hopefully they'll be on the agenda for upgrading.

I don't know about the arms; they still look hollow in the sketch, and I can't recall any other instance where Takara went back and filled in forearms or thighs. Masterpiece aside, I think both companies are equally guilty of 3-sided limbs (which makes sense since the toys are designed jointly).
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1796853)
Posted by Mindmaster on June 11th, 2016 @ 1:56pm CDT
Somebody snuck in and got this.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1796856)
Posted by Sigma Magnus on June 11th, 2016 @ 1:57pm CDT
...WOAH. :BOWDOWN:
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1796857)
Posted by King Kuuga on June 11th, 2016 @ 2:01pm CDT
You had my curiosity, but now you have my attention.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1796858)
Posted by Gunmetal on June 11th, 2016 @ 2:03pm CDT
Mindmaster wrote:Somebody snuck in and got this.


Well, okay, Delta, there you go. (In my defense, that's not how the inner forearms are shaped in the sketch.)

Looks like since they were redesigning the hands to swivel, they took the opportunity to make the roof panels a each separate piece and face the open side of the forearms into them. Higher parts count, but less paint.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1796859)
Posted by Evil Eye on June 11th, 2016 @ 2:03pm CDT
>Cab looks better
>Arms no longer hollow
>Powermaster
>ANKLE TILTS


TAKARA WINS AGAIN
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1796863)
Posted by galvatron00 on June 11th, 2016 @ 2:19pm CDT
Mindmaster wrote:Somebody snuck in and got this.
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Shiiiiiiiiiiirts. I feel like I should wait for this guy instead of PMOP..
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1796866)
Posted by shajaki on June 11th, 2016 @ 2:25pm CDT
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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1796867)
Posted by Sigma Magnus on June 11th, 2016 @ 2:28pm CDT
...aren't a few of those the Hasbro versions?
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1796869)
Posted by LOST Cybertronian on June 11th, 2016 @ 2:30pm CDT
By now you have seen the sketch by TFYuki and thanks to a little sneaky photography we get an image of the toy from the presentation. This image was posted to Facebook by Fai Wong which show Super Ginrai with the remolding he was rumored to come with. Compare the leaked image below with an official image of Titans Return Powermaster Optimus Prime which you can also find below to spot the differences.

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Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1796872)
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 11th, 2016 @ 2:34pm CDT
Super Ginrai: I need you in my life. I adore masterforce and Ginrai and this is superb. They didn't need to do half of these upgrades but I guess with Ginrai you go all out or go home :-)

Other pics: anyone else notice a distinct lack of fortress/cerebros figures?
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1796879)
Posted by Gunmetal on June 11th, 2016 @ 2:57pm CDT
Sigma Magnus wrote:...aren't a few of those the Hasbro versions?

It's definitely the Hasbro Fortress Maximus.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1796880)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on June 11th, 2016 @ 2:58pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Other pics: anyone else notice a distinct lack of fortress/cerebros figures?


Remember, the Hasbro Cerebros/Emissary figure uses the US cartoon head design with the mouthplate which does not match the toy at all. TakaraTomy must want to keep their retool a surprise.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1796898)
Posted by OptimalOptimus2 on June 11th, 2016 @ 4:29pm CDT
I just can't wait to see Takara do a Legends Brave Maximus or a Grand Maximus. :D
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1796900)
Posted by Kurona on June 11th, 2016 @ 4:56pm CDT
I can't wait to see them do Metrotitan
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1796902)
Posted by Prowl4 on June 11th, 2016 @ 5:02pm CDT
I hope takaras dumped the headmaster gimmick for this.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1796904)
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 11th, 2016 @ 5:03pm CDT
Sorry to break it to you two but I don't think any of them are happening ;-)
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1796905)
Posted by Sigma Magnus on June 11th, 2016 @ 5:04pm CDT
Prowl4 wrote:I hope takaras dumped the headmaster gimmick for this.

They didn't...we've known that for awhile now...
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1796906)
Posted by Prowl4 on June 11th, 2016 @ 5:07pm CDT
Sigma Magnus wrote:
Prowl4 wrote:I hope takaras dumped the headmaster gimmick for this.

They didn't...we've known that for awhile now...


And what department of takaras do you work in?
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1796907)
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 11th, 2016 @ 5:08pm CDT
Sigma Magnus wrote:
Prowl4 wrote:I hope takaras dumped the headmaster gimmick for this.

They didn't...we've known that for awhile now...

I think he means for super ginrai, it's possible that they redesigned the cab to allow a new ginrai figure to attach to it like the godmasters of old.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1796908)
Posted by Sigma Magnus on June 11th, 2016 @ 5:09pm CDT
Prowl4 wrote:
Sigma Magnus wrote:
Prowl4 wrote:I hope takaras dumped the headmaster gimmick for this.

They didn't...we've known that for awhile now...


And what department of takaras do you work in?

...are we really doing this again? Look at the packaging pictures a few pages back. Very clearly some Headmasters. Hell, look at the display, there are little Headmasters everywhere!
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1796909)
Posted by Sigma Magnus on June 11th, 2016 @ 5:11pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:
Sigma Magnus wrote:
Prowl4 wrote:I hope takaras dumped the headmaster gimmick for this.

They didn't...we've known that for awhile now...

I think he means for super ginrai, it's possible that they redesigned the cab to allow a new ginrai figure to attach to it like the godmasters of old.

Prowl4, if that's the case, please be more specific...
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1796913)
Posted by OptimalOptimus2 on June 11th, 2016 @ 5:49pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Sorry to break it to you two but I don't think any of them are happening ;-)

I know sarcasm when I read it.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1796936)
Posted by Kurona on June 11th, 2016 @ 6:40pm CDT
I think since they are going as far as they are with this retool, I'd say it's certainly a possibility they're making Ginrai a Powermaster instead of a Headmaster. That said, that's just pure speculation as we have nothing to prove either way; it's just a possibility - but one I feel is likely due to how far they are shown to be going with the retool.

Hell, this can be backed up by the fact that so far, we have not been shown any Takara takes on TR figures that were target/powermasters turned into headmasters.
"But wait, most beautiful supreme goddess Kurona!" I hear you cry, if greatly paraphrased and peppered with compliments in my head. "They've shown Scourge and Blurr who are still headmasters and not targetmasters!"
This is true. However... Blurr, Hot Rod, Kup, Cyclonus and Scourge were only rereleased and retooled as Targetmasters in 1987 by Hasbro. In Japan, they were not. So from the perspective of Takara, this is not changing Targetmasters into Headmasters - just changing characters with no notable gimmicks originally into Headmasters, like Galvatron and Astrotrain.

Therefore, the possibility remains open that Triggerhappy and all the rest could be given their Targetmaster status and such back with the Headmaster gimmick omitted. At the very least, it remains very possible for Ginrai - especially given the extent of his retool and given we had comments on the smaller Ginrai figure apparently being altered.


... Typing something that long on a phone is bloody exhausting send help im dying
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1796938)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on June 11th, 2016 @ 6:42pm CDT
Prowl4 wrote:
Sigma Magnus wrote:
Prowl4 wrote:I hope takaras dumped the headmaster gimmick for this.

They didn't...we've known that for awhile now...


And what department of takaras do you work in?

Dear Primus, you are not seriously starting this again :roll:

There are clearly headmasters on the figures you want 'remolded', the figures show off the headmaster gimmick on the display, and Yuki's facebook page, among other places; time to cut the trolling, and accept things the way they are =;
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1796942)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on June 11th, 2016 @ 6:45pm CDT
Kurona wrote:I think since they are going as far as they are with this retool, I'd say it's certainly a possibility they're making Ginrai a Powermaster instead of a Headmaster. That said, that's just pure speculation as we have nothing to prove either way; it's just a possibility - but one I feel is likely due to how far they are shown to be going with the retool.

Hell, this can be backed up by the fact that so far, we have not been shown any Takara takes on TR figures that were target/powermasters turned into headmasters.
"But wait, most beautiful supreme goddess Kurona!" I hear you cry, if greatly paraphrased and peppered with compliments in my head. "They've shown Scourge and Blurr who are still headmasters and not targetmasters!"
This is true. However... Blurr, Hot Rod, Kup, Cyclonus and Scourge were only rereleased and retooled as Targetmasters in 1987 by Hasbro. In Japan, they were not. So from the perspective of Takara, this is not changing Targetmasters into Headmasters - just changing characters with no notable gimmicks originally into Headmasters, like Galvatron and Astrotrain.

Therefore, the possibility remains open that Triggerhappy and all the rest could be given their Targetmaster status and such back with the Headmaster gimmick omitted. At the very least, it remains very possible for Ginrai - especially given the extent of his retool and given we had comments on the smaller Ginrai figure apparently being altered.


... Typing something that long on a phone is bloody exhausting send help im dying

Well, they're in luck, they should have several targetmaster molds available to them to use (gen cyclonus, Gen scoop's pair, and mp rodimus - if I'm not mistaken) plus it really shouldn't be too difficult to whip up a new mold :-?
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1796950)
Posted by Kurona on June 11th, 2016 @ 6:57pm CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Kurona wrote:I think since they are going as far as they are with this retool, I'd say it's certainly a possibility they're making Ginrai a Powermaster instead of a Headmaster. That said, that's just pure speculation as we have nothing to prove either way; it's just a possibility - but one I feel is likely due to how far they are shown to be going with the retool.

Hell, this can be backed up by the fact that so far, we have not been shown any Takara takes on TR figures that were target/powermasters turned into headmasters.
"But wait, most beautiful supreme goddess Kurona!" I hear you cry, if greatly paraphrased and peppered with compliments in my head. "They've shown Scourge and Blurr who are still headmasters and not targetmasters!"
This is true. However... Blurr, Hot Rod, Kup, Cyclonus and Scourge were only rereleased and retooled as Targetmasters in 1987 by Hasbro. In Japan, they were not. So from the perspective of Takara, this is not changing Targetmasters into Headmasters - just changing characters with no notable gimmicks originally into Headmasters, like Galvatron and Astrotrain.

Therefore, the possibility remains open that Triggerhappy and all the rest could be given their Targetmaster status and such back with the Headmaster gimmick omitted. At the very least, it remains very possible for Ginrai - especially given the extent of his retool and given we had comments on the smaller Ginrai figure apparently being altered.


... Typing something that long on a phone is bloody exhausting send help im dying

Well, they're in luck, they should have several targetmaster molds available to them to use (gen cyclonus, Gen scoop's pair, and mp rodimus - if I'm not mistaken) plus it really shouldn't be too difficult to whip up a new mold :-?

Plus, while including a new mold might be too much for Hasbro due to them needing to keep to an exact price range (they are limited to making only as much for a deluxe as can be justified for $17 or whatever for instance) - Japan's market is a lot more free with no such standard price points, hence if making a new figure for the toy means increasing the price a little, that's fine. That's how they wete able to get away with arms micron Breakdown and how they're able to package titan master vehicles with hardhead, weirdwolf etc just fine.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1796962)
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 11th, 2016 @ 7:19pm CDT
Interesting, I wasn't aware of their freeform pricing. I'd had just assumed they were like hasbro and priced all the same size together. This makes a lot of sense now as to why they didn't mind the extra tooling on devy.

Thanks kurona ;)^ You've taught me something quite interesting!
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1796967)
Posted by Kurona on June 11th, 2016 @ 7:27pm CDT
ZeroWolf wrote:Interesting, I wasn't aware of their freeform pricing. I'd had just assumed they were like hasbro and priced all the same size together. This makes a lot of sense now as to why they didn't mind the extra tooling on devy.

Thanks kurona ;)^ You've taught me something quite interesting!

Very welcome!
Admittedly I don't know why the markets are so different, just that they are... the reason AM Breakdown remains import-exclusive ;-;
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1796971)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on June 11th, 2016 @ 7:31pm CDT
Kurona wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Interesting, I wasn't aware of their freeform pricing. I'd had just assumed they were like hasbro and priced all the same size together. This makes a lot of sense now as to why they didn't mind the extra tooling on devy.

Thanks kurona ;)^ You've taught me something quite interesting!

Very welcome!
Admittedly I don't know why the markets are so different, just that they are... the reason AM Breakdown remains import-exclusive ;-;

Well, that way, they never have to skimp on quality or vision to meet a set of constraints, they price the object at what it's worth, and their customers respect it knowing this. But, at the same time, it also creates loose ends, say they bump up pmop (for instance) to be more expensive, but people don't buy it, they lose money, whereas the Hasbro model probably allows for this through various outs, such as staggered case selections (for instance 2 bumblebee's and prime's for 1 quillfire and thunderhoof)
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1796973)
Posted by Kurona on June 11th, 2016 @ 7:37pm CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Kurona wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Interesting, I wasn't aware of their freeform pricing. I'd had just assumed they were like hasbro and priced all the same size together. This makes a lot of sense now as to why they didn't mind the extra tooling on devy.

Thanks kurona ;)^ You've taught me something quite interesting!

Very welcome!
Admittedly I don't know why the markets are so different, just that they are... the reason AM Breakdown remains import-exclusive ;-;

Well, that way, they never have to skimp on quality or vision to meet a set of constraints, they price the object at what it's worth, and their customers respect it knowing this. But, at the same time, it also creates loose ends, say they bump up pmop (for instance) to be more expensive, but people don't buy it, they lose money, whereas the Hasbro model probably allows for this through various outs, such as staggered case selections (for instance 2 bumblebee's and prime's for 1 quillfire and thunderhoof)

Oh yeah, there's definetely pros and cons for each system. Even for the consumer, at least with Hasbro you have consistency - when you buy Weirdwolf, short of scalping or some shops having idiotic pricing you at least know every deluxe will cost the same so you can plan ahead with your money a bit easier. With Takara, it's a little trickier.
And even if you do know every price in advance, it's much easier to remember "titan master 5, legend 10, deluxe 17, voyager 23, leader 45, titan 150" than individual prices for every single figure.
Okay, that is admittedly a bit of a small factor when at the end of the day Takara's system - at least in theory - would assure a more quality package, but even so. Consistency and memory go hand in hand. ... Says the one who failed college psychology
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1796987)
Posted by fenrir72 on June 11th, 2016 @ 9:00pm CDT
Nah!!!!!!!!!! Too expensive! I'll stick to my Hasbro not Ginrai version. More bang for the buck!
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1796988)
Posted by fenrir72 on June 11th, 2016 @ 9:04pm CDT
What a lazy repaint! Fortmax is not wort the pound of plastic he's made off! Shame on you Hb and Takara for hoodwinking us fans!

Don't buy it folks! Vote with your wallets and stay away from this piece of turd, PRAY the Titan's line DIES :twisted: ..............seriously 8-}

If you hate the item, naff of the negativity! And the topic. You ain't buying him anyway. But if you dig the mold, prepare your wallet for some serious butt kicking. That is if you can afford it and try not to rain on the people ( who want him) parade. >:oP
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1796989)
Posted by Kurona on June 11th, 2016 @ 9:11pm CDT
fenrir72 wrote:Nah!!!!!!!!!! Too expensive! I'll stick to my Hasbro not Ginrai version. More bang for the buck!

But... You know neither the price of ginrai nor how he'll turn out...
Is this a case of sarcasm being hard to detect on the internet? Because I'm not sure I get the joke
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1796996)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on June 11th, 2016 @ 9:24pm CDT
Kurona wrote:
fenrir72 wrote:Nah!!!!!!!!!! Too expensive! I'll stick to my Hasbro not Ginrai version. More bang for the buck!

But... You know neither the price of ginrai nor how he'll turn out...
Is this a case of sarcasm being hard to detect on the internet? Because I'm not sure I get the joke

He's taking a pot-shot at me (among others likely), because I dared to say that I thought (like some other's) that Fort Max wasn't worth retail price or higher, due to being an unsubtle remold, he's being unusually salty about it though. Apparently in his mind: not buying Fort Max = an end to the Titan class >:oP
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1796998)
Posted by william-james88 on June 11th, 2016 @ 9:28pm CDT
Kurona wrote:... Typing something that long on a phone is bloody exhausting send help im dying

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Kurona wrote:
ZeroWolf wrote:Interesting, I wasn't aware of their freeform pricing. I'd had just assumed they were like hasbro and priced all the same size together. This makes a lot of sense now as to why they didn't mind the extra tooling on devy.

Thanks kurona ;)^ You've taught me something quite interesting!

Very welcome!
Admittedly I don't know why the markets are so different, just that they are... the reason AM Breakdown remains import-exclusive ;-;

Yup yup, but it works both ways. When Takara rereleased Animated Lockdown as part of TAV, they considered him in between classes since his bot mode was so tall so they priced him higher than a deluxe.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1796999)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on June 11th, 2016 @ 9:29pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Animated Lockdown

Now, that was a figure 8-)
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1797008)
Posted by william-james88 on June 11th, 2016 @ 9:43pm CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:He's taking a pot-shot at me (among others likely), because I dared to say that I thought (like some other's) that Fort Max wasn't worth retail price or higher, due to being an unsubtle remold, he's being unusually salty about it though. Apparently in his mind: not buying Fort Max = an end to the Titan class >:oP

I just learnt today that TRU will be charging $229.99 CDN for Fort Max. Thats quite the increase. That's $180 US. Aint no way I'm paying that.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1797012)
Posted by Hellscream9999 on June 11th, 2016 @ 9:49pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:
Hellscream9999 wrote:He's taking a pot-shot at me (among others likely), because I dared to say that I thought (like some other's) that Fort Max wasn't worth retail price or higher, due to being an unsubtle remold, he's being unusually salty about it though. Apparently in his mind: not buying Fort Max = an end to the Titan class >:oP

I just learnt today that TRU will be charging $229.99 CDN for Fort Max. Thats quite the increase. That's $180 US. Aint no way I'm paying that.

Figured they'd be marking him up, but even so, that's quite a bit :HEADHURTS:
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1797034)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 11th, 2016 @ 10:20pm CDT
Prowl4 wrote:
Sigma Magnus wrote:
Prowl4 wrote:I hope takaras dumped the headmaster gimmick for this.

They didn't...we've known that for awhile now...


And what department of takaras do you work in?
I already gave you a Takara statement about this many pages ago.
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1797066)
Posted by ThunderThruster on June 12th, 2016 @ 5:20am CDT
Kurona wrote:I think since they are going as far as they are with this retool, I'd say it's certainly a possibility they're making Ginrai a Powermaster instead of a Headmaster. That said, that's just pure speculation as we have nothing to prove either way; it's just a possibility - but one I feel is likely due to how far they are shown to be going with the retool.

Hell, this can be backed up by the fact that so far, we have not been shown any Takara takes on TR figures that were target/powermasters turned into headmasters.
"But wait, most beautiful supreme goddess Kurona!" I hear you cry, if greatly paraphrased and peppered with compliments in my head. "They've shown Scourge and Blurr who are still headmasters and not targetmasters!"
This is true. However... Blurr, Hot Rod, Kup, Cyclonus and Scourge were only rereleased and retooled as Targetmasters in 1987 by Hasbro. In Japan, they were not. So from the perspective of Takara, this is not changing Targetmasters into Headmasters - just changing characters with no notable gimmicks originally into Headmasters, like Galvatron and Astrotrain.

Therefore, the possibility remains open that Triggerhappy and all the rest could be given their Targetmaster status and such back with the Headmaster gimmick omitted. At the very least, it remains very possible for Ginrai - especially given the extent of his retool and given we had comments on the smaller Ginrai figure apparently being altered.


... Typing something that long on a phone is bloody exhausting send help im dying


While this is a valid stance, the fact that of those 6 targetmaster characters we only know of Triggerhappy, to my recollection, being done by hasbro at the moment. So there is only 1 figure that fits your hypothesis for now.
While I'm not discounting for statement, you are painting it with a rather broad brush
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1797075)
Posted by Prowl4 on June 12th, 2016 @ 6:18am CDT
Sigma Magnus wrote:
Prowl4 wrote:
Sigma Magnus wrote:
Prowl4 wrote:I hope takaras dumped the headmaster gimmick for this.

They didn't...we've known that for awhile now...


And what department of takaras do you work in?

...are we really doing this again? Look at the packaging pictures a few pages back. Very clearly some Headmasters. Hell, look at the display, there are little Headmasters everywhere!


In which department of takara do you work Hun?
Re: Takara Tomy Transformers Legends Super Ginrai TFYuki Sketch (1797077)
Posted by Prowl4 on June 12th, 2016 @ 6:21am CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:
Prowl4 wrote:
Sigma Magnus wrote:
Prowl4 wrote:I hope takaras dumped the headmaster gimmick for this.

They didn't...we've known that for awhile now...


And what department of takaras do you work in?

Dear Primus, you are not seriously starting this again :roll:

There are clearly headmasters on the figures you want 'remolded', the figures show off the headmaster gimmick on the display, and Yuki's facebook page, among other places; time to cut the trolling, and acceprt things the way they are =;


Me thinks that you are the troll as you respond to everything i say. What department of takara are you in that makes you privy to this information? Jog on.

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