Titans Return Siege on Cybertron Box Set Bio Images
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Comment by Overcracker
Jun 20, 2017
Hasbro needs to stop using Google Translate for their bios and hire actual Translators. Some of those are painful to read.
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The Spanish looks ok, really. I'll have my wife look at it, she's half Mexican.
Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
Jun 20, 2017
Overcracker wrote:Hasbro needs to stop using Google Translate for their bios and hire actual Translators. Some of those are painful to read.
The Spanish looks ok, really. I'll have my wife look at it, she's half Mexican.
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Comment by DecepticonFinishline
Jun 20, 2017
Do the Titan Masters for Magnus, Metalhawk, or Tidalwave have names?
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Like the Velocitron set, they don't. That shouldn't stop you from making your own, like I did.
Comment by Jelze Bunnycat
Jun 20, 2017
DecepticonFinishline wrote:Do the Titan Masters for Magnus, Metalhawk, or Tidalwave have names?
Like the Velocitron set, they don't. That shouldn't stop you from making your own, like I did.
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Comment by Hydrargyrus
Jun 20, 2017
Did we ever get images of the bios for the other set? I still have the poster thing.
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Comment by Kurona
Jun 20, 2017
MagicDeath wrote:Did we ever get images of the bios for the other set? I still have the poster thing.
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The missile launchers aren't present on the actual "Magnus Prime" toy, they only exist in the bio. The bio, which according to Sabrblade was written based on the toy being planned as a redeco of the Ultra Magnus version of the mold (which would make him neither Ginrai nor Ultra Magnus, but rather a misnamed Delta Magnus).
Hasbro and FunPub using the name "Ginrai" in the past does not preclude Hasbro balking at using the Japanese name in the present. Especially since that usage was on a toy sold at a convention and thus aimed directly at fans, while this is being aimed at a general market.
Except that said mech came to life as a true Transformer by the same name at the end of Masterforce, and lived as such until getting blasted by Deathsaurus and resurrected as Victory Leo during Victory. And it was this robot version of Ginrai that got imported into the Wings universe with that precedent for Hasbro using "Ginrai" that you mentioned.
Also, link to these "In-hand" images?
Comment by ZeldaTheSwordsman
Jun 20, 2017
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Why exactly shouldn't it have been there? Ginrai was a fairly logical assumption given Metalhawk's presence. Considering, y'know, Metalhawk was of Masterforce origins. The TM partner looking like Optimus (Where's your source for this by the way? The only thing I've seen stated about color changes to it is that the legs and head were made blue.) would not exactly pin the toy down as either of them, it would simply mean the TM partner was changed to reflect the cab robot rather than the Powermaster/Godmaster.
There was enough evidence to suggest that Magnus Prime was a form of Ginrai, but not enough to officially establish him as such. With the bio revealing the function of City Commander, one that Ultra Magnus had, plus the missile launchers that are normally not present on the Ginrai mold suggest it's supposed to be him, not Ginrai. But nothing conclusive just yet until he appears in fiction. TFWiki is far from an official authority, but companies do use it to excess (look up Roadburner to see what I mean).
The missile launchers aren't present on the actual "Magnus Prime" toy, they only exist in the bio. The bio, which according to Sabrblade was written based on the toy being planned as a redeco of the Ultra Magnus version of the mold (which would make him neither Ginrai nor Ultra Magnus, but rather a misnamed Delta Magnus).
Sabrblade wrote:Except that Metalhawk actually is Metalhawk. Hasbro has used the name "Ginrai" in the past, so if they wanted Magnus Prime to be Ginrai, there was nothing stopping Hasbro from naming him "Ginrai". Yet, he was given a name that has nothing to do with Ginrai since Ginrai is neither a Prime nor a Magnus. It made no sense for an Optimus Prime-lookalike named "Magnus Prime" to be Ginrai.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Why exactly shouldn't it have been there? Ginrai was a fairly logical assumption given Metalhawk's presence. Considering, y'know, Metalhawk was of Masterforce origins.
Hasbro and FunPub using the name "Ginrai" in the past does not preclude Hasbro balking at using the Japanese name in the present. Especially since that usage was on a toy sold at a convention and thus aimed directly at fans, while this is being aimed at a general market.
Sabrblade wrote:The in-hand pics of the Titan Master that we saw awhile back, which had the Titan Master colored to look like a mini-Optimus Prime.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:The TM partner looking like Optimus (Where's your source for this by the way?Thing is, when it comes to the Ginrai character, it's the small dude that matters the most since that little dude is the character's real self while the larger toy is just a lifeless mech. And that small dude certainly don't look like Ginrai.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:The only thing I've seen stated about color changes to it is that the legs and head were made blue.) would not exactly pin the toy down as either of them, it would simply mean the TM partner was changed to reflect the cab robot rather than the Powermaster/Godmaster.
Except that said mech came to life as a true Transformer by the same name at the end of Masterforce, and lived as such until getting blasted by Deathsaurus and resurrected as Victory Leo during Victory. And it was this robot version of Ginrai that got imported into the Wings universe with that precedent for Hasbro using "Ginrai" that you mentioned.
Also, link to these "In-hand" images?
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Or better yet, cut the multilingual stuff all together, wastes so much space and just looks messy.
For Magnus I think I'd consider him Hi-Q after he became Optimus Prime himself (weird Marvel story).
Tidal Wave, well much like former targetmasters seem to use the targetmaster's name for their headmaster, maybe Ramjet after his minicon?
For Metalhawk, I got nothing as he's a blank slate to me.
Comment by Optimum Supreme
Jun 20, 2017
Overcracker wrote:Hasbro needs to stop using Google Translate for their bios and hire actual Translators. Some of those are painful to read.
Or better yet, cut the multilingual stuff all together, wastes so much space and just looks messy.
DecepticonFinishline wrote:Do the Titan Masters for Magnus, Metalhawk, or Tidalwave have names?
For Magnus I think I'd consider him Hi-Q after he became Optimus Prime himself (weird Marvel story).
Tidal Wave, well much like former targetmasters seem to use the targetmaster's name for their headmaster, maybe Ramjet after his minicon?
For Metalhawk, I got nothing as he's a blank slate to me.
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Comment by Cheetron
Jun 20, 2017
I'm am so glad I pre ordered this set!
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Oh yeah. I think I remember that now.
Comment by Hydrargyrus
Jun 20, 2017
Kurona wrote:MagicDeath wrote:Did we ever get images of the bios for the other set? I still have the poster thing.
Oh yeah. I think I remember that now.
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FOUR Optimuses. Laser, Magnus, and two actual Optimi, the Voyager and PM OP.
Comment by Optimum Supreme
Jun 20, 2017
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:william-james88 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:how many "Optimus Prime" figures with a different design each does a line need?
as many as can be sold come christmas.
Parents think: "Laser Prime, Magnus Prime, or Optimus Prime? Must be different guys, I'll get them all"
Kids know: "Mom and dad got me three Optimus Primes! YAY"
FOUR Optimuses. Laser, Magnus, and two actual Optimi, the Voyager and PM OP.
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Comment by Optimum Supreme
Jun 20, 2017
sorry accidental double post.
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Except that a number of their markets LEGALLY REQUIRE MULTILINGUAL PACKAGING.
Comment by ZeldaTheSwordsman
Jun 20, 2017
Optimum Supreme wrote:Overcracker wrote:Hasbro needs to stop using Google Translate for their bios and hire actual Translators. Some of those are painful to read.
Or better yet, cut the multilingual stuff all together, wastes so much space and just looks messy.
Except that a number of their markets LEGALLY REQUIRE MULTILINGUAL PACKAGING.
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Look at the Liokaiser set they did. The few names that they changed were only changed because they couldn't use names that had "Hell", "Kill", and "Death" in them at retailers, and were only changed just enough to try to still keep true to the original names as much as possible.
Ergo, they wouldn't just randomly change "Ginrai" to something as wildly un-Ginrai-like as "Magnus Prime" if they wanted him to be Ginrai.
More importantly, the newly-living God Ginrai didn't have a detachable little companion anymore, being a singular whole Transformer from that point on.
Comment by Sabrblade
Jun 20, 2017
Balking? Dude, this current Hasbro team has a hard on for Japanese G1. They'd take every opportunity to use whatever Japanese character names that they'd could if they wanted to.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Hasbro and FunPub using the name "Ginrai" in the past does not preclude Hasbro balking at using the Japanese name in the present.
Look at the Liokaiser set they did. The few names that they changed were only changed because they couldn't use names that had "Hell", "Kill", and "Death" in them at retailers, and were only changed just enough to try to still keep true to the original names as much as possible.
Ergo, they wouldn't just randomly change "Ginrai" to something as wildly un-Ginrai-like as "Magnus Prime" if they wanted him to be Ginrai.
Hasbro used the name "Ginrai" in their 2003 Commemorative Series reissue of Powermaster Optimus Prime.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Especially since that usage was on a toy sold at a convention and thus aimed directly at fans, while this is being aimed at a general market.
Except that that guy stuck permanently to the name "God Ginrai" and never reassumed any of his other robot mode configurations, maintaining his God Ginrai configuration as his new default robot form, which the Magnus Prime bears little resemblance to and more like that of Super Ginrai, a form that was only ever assumed by the human Godmaster.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Except that said mech came to life as a true Transformer by the same name at the end of Masterforce,
More importantly, the newly-living God Ginrai didn't have a detachable little companion anymore, being a singular whole Transformer from that point on.
Certainly - https://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/comparisons-of-transformers-titans-return-magnus-prime-and-takara-legends-ginrai/38433/ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Also, link to these "In-hand" images?
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Yes! and I'm loving it.
One of my favorite things about that set. Man...I loved the 03-06 commemorative series...Not trying to take either side in the discussion, Sabr just reminded me of a couple of things I really like about Transformers
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Comment by o.supreme
Jun 20, 2017
Sabrblade wrote:this current Hasbro team has a hard on for Japanese G1. They'd take every opportunity to use whatever Japanese character names that they'd could if they wanted to
Yes! and I'm loving it.
Sabrblade wrote: Hasbro used the name "Ginrai" in their 2003 Commemorative Series reissue of Powermaster Optimus Prime.
One of my favorite things about that set. Man...I loved the 03-06 commemorative series...Not trying to take either side in the discussion, Sabr just reminded me of a couple of things I really like about Transformers
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Comment by robotcaveman
Jun 20, 2017
Is there anything about rid warrior class Thundercracker?
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Comment by Sabrblade
Jun 20, 2017
No, and wrong thread.robotcaveman wrote:Is there anything about rid warrior class Thundercracker?
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Probably not in this thread (Titan's Return).
Comment by TF-fan kev777
Jun 20, 2017
robotcaveman wrote:Is there anything about rid warrior class Thundercracker?
Probably not in this thread (Titan's Return).
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They are mostly understandable, but are a bit stilted in the phrase formation and have some strange word choices that while they do work in the general context don't really convey what the english bio is saying. Not to mention some spelling errors or word tense choices.
Take Pounce: Disables the alarm and ravages it for information
Hasbro: desactiva la alarma y luego extraer la información clasificada.
"extraer" should be "extrae" no "R". and in reality it should be "saquea" as its closer to what "ravage" is trying to convey.
Thunderwing's Thunderous strength is better translated as "estruendosa fuerza". But again it gets the point across.
Portuguese seems to suffer similarly. Though some translations such as Metalhawk's are better in Portuguese than in Spanish, and the general sentence formation and word choice would work just as well in Spanish as it does in Portuguese.
Comment by Overcracker
Jun 20, 2017
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Overcracker wrote:Hasbro needs to stop using Google Translate for their bios and hire actual Translators. Some of those are painful to read.
The Spanish looks ok, really. I'll have my wife look at it, she's half Mexican.
They are mostly understandable, but are a bit stilted in the phrase formation and have some strange word choices that while they do work in the general context don't really convey what the english bio is saying. Not to mention some spelling errors or word tense choices.
Take Pounce: Disables the alarm and ravages it for information
Hasbro: desactiva la alarma y luego extraer la información clasificada.
"extraer" should be "extrae" no "R". and in reality it should be "saquea" as its closer to what "ravage" is trying to convey.
Thunderwing's Thunderous strength is better translated as "estruendosa fuerza". But again it gets the point across.
Portuguese seems to suffer similarly. Though some translations such as Metalhawk's are better in Portuguese than in Spanish, and the general sentence formation and word choice would work just as well in Spanish as it does in Portuguese.
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Comment by Overcracker
Jun 20, 2017
double post
