Transformers Combiner Wars Wave 4 legends now available for preorder

Genericon #378 wrote:There better not be some sort of Bumblebee cop-out.

What do you mean by that?

shajaki wrote:

itscramtastic wrote:Wave 4 Legends pre-orders up at BBTS! http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/search.aspx?search=combiner%20legends%2004

I saw this in my email.
32 bucks for two legends...
and 42 bucks for four legends?

Seriously am I seeing that right?

BBTS is really jacking up the prices on the Legends class figures that people want. Groove is $13.99, Rodimus and Skywarp are over $15 each and only available together, and Viper isn't even available as an individual figure. Keeping in mind that these are $9.99 at American retail.

Forget that.

megatronus wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Is Blackjack worth owning by himself? I know his main appeal is that he's the chest piece to Menasor, but I won't get the Stunticons, so for me that's irrelevant. I saw Blackjack and Huffer at my Target yesterday and I almost picked him up, but was undecided. What made me hesitate was the thought that his function as the chest is the main purpose for the figure, and that his robot mode may suffer due to this. Does it? Or is it a well-poseable, solid figure?

I think you've got it backwards - he's a fun little figure who happens to be configurable as a chest plate. If his main purpose is to be a chest plate, than Powerglide's main purpose is to be a gun for Superion, which we know is not the case.

Blackjack's 100% worth getting on his own.

I don't completely agree, especially at a $10 price point. I will say he doesn't suffer as a result of his combination status, as that mode is literally just his car mode, so if that's your only concern, yeah, he's fine, I just don't feel he's a great value for what he is on his own.

The Powerglide comparison doesn't fit, IMO, because Powerglide's a long standing character, with many notable appearances in fiction. Blackjacks a sorta homage of one character, with a sorta deco of another, with another sort of homage as part of Menasor and really not (yet anyway) a character with a real solid identity. That would be a much more valid comparison with the Hot Rod version of the mold.

None of which is to say you're wrong about Blackjack if you like him without considering Menasor. If you like him on his own great, but I just have a different opinion about his solo value.

william-james88 wrote:

Genericon #378 wrote:There better not be some sort of Bumblebee cop-out.

What do you mean by that?

He probably means we don't want another brazza-frakkin' Bumblebee figure.... Though making him part of a combiner like Neo Prime WOULD be the ideal way for Hasbro to force us into buying yet ANOTHER bleepity-bleep-bleep Bumblebee.....

Shockwave7 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Shockwave7 wrote:They are Hasbro

That is a misnomer. HTS =/= Hasbro itself.

Is HTS then not Hasbro's official commercial online distributor? Do they not officially bear the logo of, and therefore represent, the toy manufacturer known on this planet under the nomenclature of "Hasbro" in terms of providing the products which are produced, manufactured and sold by the aforementioned company known Hasbro?

There is probably something about not undercutting the customers (retailers in this instance) in this thinking. Target/Walmart/Toys R Us/etc all have a lot of buying power....

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Agamemnon wrote:

Shockwave7 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Shockwave7 wrote:They are Hasbro

That is a misnomer. HTS =/= Hasbro itself.

Is HTS then not Hasbro's official commercial online distributor? Do they not officially bear the logo of, and therefore represent, the toy manufacturer known on this planet under the nomenclature of "Hasbro" in terms of providing the products which are produced, manufactured and sold by the aforementioned company known Hasbro?

There is probably something about not undercutting the customers (retailers in this instance) in this thinking. Target/Walmart/Toys R Us/etc all have a lot of buying power....

HTS is Hasbro's official outlet, but they're still separate from Hasbro proper. Hasbro's the licenser and only supplier, HTS is the retail-level distributor. Think any other online store, only with more direct and closer ties with Hasbro.

And I assume that their purpose is to sell whatever isn't picked up by and left over from their commercial buyers. Which is why they would never be the first to have an item available. In that logic, it makes sense that they are the last to ever have a product available.

I could care less about these two. The only legends figures I buy are the ones that represent smaller characters and go with CHUG scale.

gothsaurus wrote:Yeah, the way I'd prefer they work in some minibots is just like Powerglide and Groove and black car guy. I don't want deluxe sized minibots mixed in with these combiners. That would be toooo weird.

I'm kinda sad we don't have a Jazz, Sideswipe, Wheeljack and other "season one" cars as combiners coming on the horizon.... not to mention a scourge and seeker set of Deceps. I really want those to combat all these Autobot combiners, oddly.

AND I'm also still holding my breath for a bigger (and better) Trailbreaker and Hoist... but I digress.

Listings for Wheeljack and Trailbreaker, as well as Smokescreen have been found a while ago.

And here I am, waiting for wave 2

Genericon #378 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Genericon #378 wrote:There better not be some sort of Bumblebee cop-out.

What do you mean by that?

I mean that all these images and sketches better not just be there to lead us astray, so that they could just make a Bumblebee limb.

A bumblebee limb for who?!