Transformers: Fall of Cybertron "The Illustrated Tour Of Cybertron"

Sabrblade wrote:You need to. The stories of the books are very different from those of the games, and the Prime cartoon seems to tie in more with the books than with the games.

Believe it or not, that's not encouraging me to want to read them, LOL. If the reverse were true (more game friendly) than I would be inclined. It's not that I don't like Prime, but I'm more interested in games. And since it's my college major, it helps if I sort-of focus on games for school, lol.

Sabrblade wrote:Hmm, off the top of my head, I can't recall Exodus talking of larger TFs during the pre-war times (Unicron's attack --> the War of the Primes --> the Age of Wrath --> the Golden Age --> the rise of the caste system --> the war). Though, during the Golden Age, Bruticus Maximus was created by Shockwave as the first gestalt, but his combined form proved too unstable and was put into stasis. He did not resurface until later in the war, which he took part in as an active living combatant.

Other combiners, the Devastators and Defensor, did not show up until during the war.

Based on the images that [aesthetically] remind me immediately of Omega, but even bigger, I'm inclined to think not of Gestalts, but primarily City-formers at this point. Granted I haven't seen a gestalt for this continuity yet so I don't have a full data stream to pull from for that decision. It also dredges up what part Metroplex might have in the game though, considering how large they look in the images in the Rust Sea / Sea of Rust (initially I was more supportive of calling the thing in that image Fort Max, but apparently Metroplex is mentioned in the Mag, so I'll stick with it....for now, *evil laugh*).
I would then be inclined to think that Shockwave would create the gestalts as a call back to their former glory as Cybertronians; his attempts at once again reaching whatever pinnacle they were at and now apparently don't have full records of anymore. *shrug*

Sabrblade wrote:The Illustrated Tour Of Cybertron

Cybertron, Iacon, Sea of Rust, Space Bridge, Insecticon Invasion, Shockwave's Lair, Kaon, the Nemesis, the Ark, Teletran.

Of note, the Nemesis looks very faithful to its look in the Prime cartoon.

Here's the problem with that. WfC had a big gallery of art that looked like that. Not exactly, mind you, but the same style, incredibly impressive landscapes and such. And very, very little of it ended up being used to make anything in the game. While it looks beautiful (And some of them are screenshots rather than art) keep in mind that it's highly unlikely this is what the game will look like.

Teaser trailer: EPIC. Artwork: AWESOME.

I can't wait for the game. When it's released, I will spent next few weeks playing it 24/7.

MINDVVIPE wrote:

Shadowman wrote:Here's the problem with that. WfC had a big gallery of art that looked like that. Not exactly, mind you, but the same style, incredibly impressive landscapes and such. And very, very little of it ended up being used to make anything in the game. While it looks beautiful (And some of them are screenshots rather than art) keep in mind that it's highly unlikely this is what the game will look like.

Sadly, I have to agree. As much as the artwork kicks ass in lots of places, its probably best to base the game on the actual rendered pics. I like the colours in the lighting, but I hope we get the same variety (in colour and level complexity) as shown from some of the more ground based environments concepts.

I don't mind that it won't be the exact same. I'm glad they are doing such a good job with the franchise and using these images as references for what they are doing.

Starscream GaGa wrote:I wonder if this game will be based on the G1 cartoon continuity or the Prime continuity? I really hope Grimlock is liek his cartoon self?

And before anyway says they're not the same continuity, go back and play the first game again, because it was undeniably made with the 80's cartoon in mind.

That's what I said. Everybody says it's soposed to go into Prime. But I personally think it goes into G1 because of the fact that everybody looks like G1. I don't even like prime anyway.

wigglez323 wrote:That's what I said. Everybody says it's soposed to go into Prime. But I personally think it goes into G1 because of the fact that everybody looks like G1. I don't even like prime anyway.

We've been over this already. Grimlock is the finishing move here, too. He can't exist on Cybertron if Wheeljack built him on Earth in the present day, can he?

And, as Sabrblade said, looking like G1 does not make it G1. Because Animated is designed to be one homage after another, and Beast Wars looks nothing like G1.

NatsumeRyu wrote:

Shadowman wrote:Here's the problem with that. WfC had a big gallery of art that looked like that. Not exactly, mind you, but the same style, incredibly impressive landscapes and such. And very, very little of it ended up being used to make anything in the game. While it looks beautiful (And some of them are screenshots rather than art) keep in mind that it's highly unlikely this is what the game will look like.

Can you link me to the gallery, so I can argue against your point?

It's in the game itself, in the Extras section.

Shadowman wrote:

wigglez323 wrote:That's what I said. Everybody says it's soposed to go into Prime. But I personally think it goes into G1 because of the fact that everybody looks like G1. I don't even like prime anyway.

We've been over this already. Grimlock is the finishing move here, too. He can't exist on Cybertron if Wheeljack built him on Earth in the present day, can he?

And, as Sabrblade said, looking like G1 does not make it G1. Because Animated is designed to be one homage after another, and Beast Wars looks nothing like G1.

Marvel G1 Comics, they were on the ark with the other Autobots and awoken by teletran-1 to stop Shockwave.

Shadowman wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Shadowman wrote:

wigglez323 wrote:That's what I said. Everybody says it's soposed to go into Prime. But I personally think it goes into G1 because of the fact that everybody looks like G1. I don't even like prime anyway.

We've been over this already. Grimlock is the finishing move here, too. He can't exist on Cybertron if Wheeljack built him on Earth in the present day, can he?

And, as Sabrblade said, looking like G1 does not make it G1. Because Animated is designed to be one homage after another, and Beast Wars looks nothing like G1.

Marvel G1 Comics, they were on the ark with the other Autobots and awoken by teletran-1 to stop Shockwave.

Yeah, but everyone is always saying it's supposed to be a prequel to the G1 Cartoon. In any case, there's too many inconsistencies either way, and it doesn't fit with the cartoon or comics.

Poor WFC doesn't fit in anywhere. Has to eat his lunch with the janitor at school.

It definitely feels like putting WFC within the TF:Prime continuity was an after thought. I remember reading promo material about WFC (well before TF Prime had even been mentioned) saying how we would, for the first time, get the true history of the Transformers before they came to Earth. We would get the chance to experience the TF civil war. It all alluded to being the beginnings of the G1 continuity. I also don't believe that the character designs were just meant to be homages to G1 characters - I honestly believe that this was meant to be an updated retelling of the G1 continuity (like IDW did with the "-ation" series) and that's what the designers went into the game basing it on - "We're doing G1! Booyah!".

THEN I think Hasbro came in (after the game had started to be made)and went: "Well, we're starting a new continuity called TF: Prime which is kinda a cross of Bayverse, G1 and a bit of Animated and we really want to market that... so... we're going to say that everything from here on out is in that continuity. Oh, and that game you've been working on and obviously basing on G1? Yeah, that's now Prime continuity too. Anyone got a sturdy shoehorn? You're gonna need it. Any sequels? Yeah, you're gonna have to start throwing in obvious TF; Prime stuff for those." (Like Cliffjumper's head design in the latest promo stuff.)

I think that's where the main confusion is coming from because, even though we're being told the game is not G1 continuity, I think it's obvious enough that it was originally meant to be.