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Lunatic Prime wrote:So there's good chance to get Takara Blast Off from , too?!

Its still tricky because thats the only one where Hasbro has no interest in bringing the mold over to complete a G2 set. They really beleive their Blast Off to be as good a Blast Off as your gonna get:

william-james88 wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:So there's good chance to get Takara Blast Off from , too?!

Its still tricky because thats the only one where Hasbro has no interest in bringing the mold over to complete a G2 set. They really beleive their Blast Off to be as good a Blast Off as your gonna get:

I still have no issues with blast off being a jet. He looks good to me.

By the did you already do a top combiners editorial? I can't remember

EVERYTHING IS BETTER THAN FOC BRUTICUS.

kurthy wrote:

william-james88 wrote:
And no I didnt do a top combiner list yet, thanks for the interest . I do have a top 5 best G1 combiners in the pipeline, which talks about both Hasbro and Takara. I dont know if I should doanother list as top 5 combiner wars combiners or simply best combiners post G1. Its a bit tough. All of these combiner Wars combiners beat FOC Bruticus (right?), do they beat every other combiner too? Like Landfall? Would BW Tripedicus be the only non CW/UW combiner on this post G1 list? The fact that CW/UW isnt over makes it hard for me to figure it out.

Hence why I found it easier to stick to G1 for this first combiner list.

PS: My questions arent rhetorical, if anyone wants to answer them, please do

I think a best re-shell list would be interesting, but good combiners have been hard to come by. Would you include Unicron trilogy combiners in that list if they ranked high enough?

Oh there's plenty of good combiners that are not G1. The original RID had some good ones, beast wars, even animated has a decent one(whatever that jetfire/jet storm dudes name was)

william-james88 wrote:

Randomhero wrote:I still have no issues with blast off being a jet. He looks good to me.

By the did you already do a top combiners editorial? I can't remember

I dont think Blast Off being a jet is bad at all, especially when combienr wars is a G1 redux. But the G2 sets are clearly about using the molds which best represent the G2 toys so having Blastoff be a jet there just makes him a redeco of the normal retail G1 redux version, which is different from every other G2 set. So it kind of breaks the theme.

And no I didnt do a top combiner list yet, thanks for the interest . I do have a top 5 best G1 combiners in the pipeline, which talks about both Hasbro and Takara. I dont know if I should doanother list as top 5 combiner wars combiners or simply best combiners post G1. Its a bit tough. All of these combiner Wars combiners beat FOC Bruticus (right?), do they beat every other combiner too? Like Landfall? Would BW Tripedicus be the only non CW/UW combiner on this post G1 list? The fact that CW/UW isnt over makes it hard for me to figure it out.

Hence why I found it easier to stick to G1 for this first combiner list.

PS: My questions arent rhetorical, if anyone wants to answer them, please do

An obvious thought, I know, but perhaps a list of worst/least liked combiners might work as a nice juxtaposition. Or even just combiner methods that while admirable didn't hold up (PCC, powerlinxing, FOC plug ports, etc.)?

kurthy wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

kurthy wrote:

william-james88 wrote:
And no I didnt do a top combiner list yet, thanks for the interest . I do have a top 5 best G1 combiners in the pipeline, which talks about both Hasbro and Takara. I dont know if I should doanother list as top 5 combiner wars combiners or simply best combiners post G1. Its a bit tough. All of these combiner Wars combiners beat FOC Bruticus (right?), do they beat every other combiner too? Like Landfall? Would BW Tripedicus be the only non CW/UW combiner on this post G1 list? The fact that CW/UW isnt over makes it hard for me to figure it out.

Hence why I found it easier to stick to G1 for this first combiner list.

PS: My questions arent rhetorical, if anyone wants to answer them, please do

I think a best re-shell list would be interesting, but good combiners have been hard to come by. Would you include Unicron trilogy combiners in that list if they ranked high enough?

Oh there's plenty of good combiners that are not G1. The original RID had some good ones, beast wars, even animated has a decent one(whatever that jetfire/jet storm dudes name was)

The only one I remember from RID that wasn't a G1 redeco was OP and UM (which I loved when I had it before I sold him over 10 years ago). Beast wars was pretty much Tripedicus and the maximal one, right? I never got the animated one because I wasn't collecting at the time, but I've not heard great things about it. Which always begs the question, do you include just two robots in a combiner or do you need more of a team?

The Trainbots were original as were the autobot combiner that were construction vehicles

Randomhero wrote:
The Trainbots were original as were the autobot combiner that were construction vehicles

Thanks, I forgot about the awesome trainbots!

The energon combiners were good at the time. Talking about combiners pretty much all the autobots were a form of combiner to be honest. Sure they were "you become the pants and I'll be the shirt" but still counted

I still say some of those energon autobots hold up to this day. Rodimus, Inferno, landmine, downshift are all pretty solid. Hotshot is a good toso and legs. He kinda loses it by himself with his upper body...it's mostly the arms.

Energon in general is still a good toy line. The fiction is by far the lowest point in transformers when it comes to cartoons but plastic crack is still pretty great.

ZeroWolf wrote:Rid (or car robots) actually had more combiners than you're remembering in the form of the train team that formed rail racer (three man team full parts integration) and the land fill team (four members, full parts integration. ..I think)

Oh and will, in animated, the combiner was called Safe Guard who only a few liked (like me who digged his symmetrical docking like combination) he wasn't perfect, but I had fun with him.

That train is cool, I was glad to finally get him, though the fact that they accomplish to have 3 bullet trains actually turn into individual robots which in turn can combine into a bigger robot is better than the actual end result. One of the parts ends up beign a back pack, just like those samurai combiners from Transformers Go!

And to those asking, I wouldnt count 2 part combiners in a list. There are so many, I might as well just do a list of 2 part combiners. But they come up in other lists anyway already, like best Optimus Super Modes, which is all about him teaming up with other bots.

I will show you what my dilemma is when we look beyond G1. As you may have noticed, I really like when a list goes through a buch of different eras and designs (which even the G1 combiner list does) and that is still honest and true. It shows how certain toys still hold up. But if we look at combiners, they are all evaluated on that combining technology. If a combiner technology is better than the rest, then why not include all combiners that use it or exclude all those that dont.

For instance, think of the best version of Superion and Devastator since G1. Are both from the same line? If so, then whats the use of naming other more subpar combiners? Thats what I am struggling with.

In the end, I feel it will be easier to eventually dolists of top 5 toys in a specific line and we can then see where the combiners end up within (hint hint, the energon combiner teams are not top 5 in the Energon line and movie Devastator is not top 5 in best toys from ROTF).

Thanks for helping me out guys, it means a lot.