Transformers gets Michael Bay Into the Billion Dollar Club
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Jul 17, 2007 at 8:19pm CDT
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Comment by i_amtrunks
Jul 17, 2007
I feel all empty and hollow inside, knowing I helped Michael Bay join such an elite club...
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Deeper down in that pit of emptyness ... you enjoyed doing it.
Comment by Burn
Jul 17, 2007
i_amtrunks wrote:I feel all empty and hollow inside, knowing I helped Michael Bay join such an elite club...
Deeper down in that pit of emptyness ... you enjoyed doing it.
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Comment by General Magnus
Jul 17, 2007
I like most of Bay´s films. The Rock and Armageddon and now Transformers are in my top 10 favourite movies. 2,4 and 8 places.
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Comment by Mr.RobotoAutoMan
Jul 17, 2007
bay was in the billion dollar club before he made transformers. hes was the youngest director to reach the billion dollar club
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Comment by steve2275
Jul 17, 2007
yay bay
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Comment by Megatron Wolf
Jul 17, 2007
I like most of bays movies(except pearl harbor. that movie sucked.) but i feel that this will just inflate his ego even more now. And thats something no one needs to deal with.
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Comment by Powermaster Jazz
Jul 17, 2007
Now maybe his undeserved reputation as a hack will be over.
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Comment by Nemesis_Apoc
Jul 17, 2007
holy... sh*t... well, my friends, we have only ourselves to blame for such a blasphemous and unholy occurance... this will surely usher in the age of the great apocalypse upon humankind...
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Yeahm, Pearl Harbor was horrible.
Comment by Autobot Hero
Jul 17, 2007
Megatron_Wolf wrote:I like most of bays movies(except pearl harbor. that movie sucked.) but i feel that this will just inflate his ego even more now. And thats something no one needs to deal with.
Yeahm, Pearl Harbor was horrible.
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No no, that happens when Uwe Boll joins the club.
Comment by Burn
Jul 17, 2007
Nemesis_Apoc wrote:holy... sh*t... well, my friends, we have only ourselves to blame for such a blasphemous and unholy occurance... this will surely usher in the age of the great apocalypse upon humankind...
No no, that happens when Uwe Boll joins the club.
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Comment by wingdarkness
Jul 17, 2007
I get a mulligan for Bad Boys 1 (Bay had yet to give his soul to Satan at that point)...I did pay for the Rock which Bay produced so I'm still safe...I didn't pay for Transformers, told my friend either he paid or I'd never see it so that's not in my pocket...Watched Pearl Harbor on DVD and never saw the Island, So I gave Bay a grand total of approx. 8 bucks as a director...
So yeah I deserve death...
Edit: Damn he did direct "The Rock", thought that was Brukheimer...$hit I kinda liked that one...He produced ConAir which I really liked..So I gave Bay 16 bucks...I don't deserve an afterlife for admitting this...
So yeah I deserve death...
Edit: Damn he did direct "The Rock", thought that was Brukheimer...$hit I kinda liked that one...He produced ConAir which I really liked..So I gave Bay 16 bucks...I don't deserve an afterlife for admitting this...
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Comment by Autobot032
Jul 17, 2007
Whether or not you like his work, you have to give Bay credit for the following:
1.) He's a hell of a hard worker. He does put the work and time in.
2.) His movies are entertaining to the masses. Not every movie fits every audience, but all of his movies have entertained at least some people.
3.) He knows what he's doing. It's not just the director at fault when a movie sucks, it's the writers and the producers as well.
It's the old "too many cooks in the kitchen..." too many people changing, correcting, editing, etc and when it's all said and done, the movies are chopped. (TF is proof of this.)
The most glaring examples of chopped movies are: Highlander 2: The Quickening (the movie was taken from a little over 120 minutes and chopped (mercilessly) to 90 minutes.
And Ace Ventura: Pet Detective (anyone who's ever watched it on DVD saw there's a piece of footage not seen in the theaters, and when watched on TV, pieces from the theatrical and DVD versions are cut and new footage never seen is added in it's place.)
For Highlander, it was the producers and payroll for the movie studio that horrendously cut the film. For Ace, it was the director himself who felt the movie didn't need the pieces. (He was wrong, but he did it.)
So don't always blame Bay for how a movie is, it's not just his neck in the noose.
Armageddon was visually entertaining (the worldwide damage shots, and special effects were fantastic, so were the stunts.) but the story really really lacked. He didn't pen it, someone else did. It's not his fault that the script was hollow.
Same with TransFormers...sure, Rogers, Kurtzman and Orci could've made something deeper (especially after reading the leaked script from '06) but without Bay's input, the movie wouldn't have been nearly as long as it was (which was actually a good thing that it clocked in at 2.5 hours, had it been shorter, it would've been overkill and too much to process.) and it wouldn't have had the new pieces to the story that we never saw in the original script.
Bay added to it, not detracted from it. He did a fine job of directing it, he just could've done without the shaky cam crap.
1.) He's a hell of a hard worker. He does put the work and time in.
2.) His movies are entertaining to the masses. Not every movie fits every audience, but all of his movies have entertained at least some people.
3.) He knows what he's doing. It's not just the director at fault when a movie sucks, it's the writers and the producers as well.
It's the old "too many cooks in the kitchen..." too many people changing, correcting, editing, etc and when it's all said and done, the movies are chopped. (TF is proof of this.)
The most glaring examples of chopped movies are: Highlander 2: The Quickening (the movie was taken from a little over 120 minutes and chopped (mercilessly) to 90 minutes.
And Ace Ventura: Pet Detective (anyone who's ever watched it on DVD saw there's a piece of footage not seen in the theaters, and when watched on TV, pieces from the theatrical and DVD versions are cut and new footage never seen is added in it's place.)
For Highlander, it was the producers and payroll for the movie studio that horrendously cut the film. For Ace, it was the director himself who felt the movie didn't need the pieces. (He was wrong, but he did it.)
So don't always blame Bay for how a movie is, it's not just his neck in the noose.
Armageddon was visually entertaining (the worldwide damage shots, and special effects were fantastic, so were the stunts.) but the story really really lacked. He didn't pen it, someone else did. It's not his fault that the script was hollow.
Same with TransFormers...sure, Rogers, Kurtzman and Orci could've made something deeper (especially after reading the leaked script from '06) but without Bay's input, the movie wouldn't have been nearly as long as it was (which was actually a good thing that it clocked in at 2.5 hours, had it been shorter, it would've been overkill and too much to process.) and it wouldn't have had the new pieces to the story that we never saw in the original script.
Bay added to it, not detracted from it. He did a fine job of directing it, he just could've done without the shaky cam crap.
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i have all of bays films including his 2 criterion collection. shall i came with you?
Comment by Mr.RobotoAutoMan
Jul 17, 2007
wingdarkness wrote:I get a mulligan for Bad Boys 1 (Bay had yet to give his soul to Satan at that point)...I did pay for the Rock which Bay produced so I'm still safe...I didn't pay for Transformers, told my friend either he paid or I'd never see it so that's not in my pocket...Watched Pearl Harbor on DVD and never saw the Island, So I gave Bay a grand total of approx. 8 bucks as a director...
So yeah I deserve death...
i have all of bays films including his 2 criterion collection. shall i came with you?
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That's an absolute bullsh*t view. If that were true, people wouldn't even be allowed in the basement of Hell just for watching Uwe Boll's films.
You're fine watching, enjoying, and owning Bay films. People just like to sit on their high horse and look down on others. Problem is, there's always someone who's higher up, so that means all of these bitchers have their faces firmly planted in the horse's ass.
Comment by Autobot032
Jul 17, 2007
Mr.RobotAutoMan wrote:wingdarkness wrote:I get a mulligan for Bad Boys 1 (Bay had yet to give his soul to Satan at that point)...I did pay for the Rock which Bay produced so I'm still safe...I didn't pay for Transformers, told my friend either he paid or I'd never see it so that's not in my pocket...Watched Pearl Harbor on DVD and never saw the Island, So I gave Bay a grand total of approx. 8 bucks as a director...
So yeah I deserve death...
i have all of bays films including his 2 criterion collection. shall i came with you?
That's an absolute bullsh*t view. If that were true, people wouldn't even be allowed in the basement of Hell just for watching Uwe Boll's films.
You're fine watching, enjoying, and owning Bay films. People just like to sit on their high horse and look down on others. Problem is, there's always someone who's higher up, so that means all of these bitchers have their faces firmly planted in the horse's ass.
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Comment by wingdarkness
Jul 17, 2007
Soundwave: "Bay apologists eject!"
@Autobot032 -
Dude I'm not about to get into another argument, worship Bay all you like I don't have the energy...
I don't own one Bay film...But what's funny is while I never liked Bay, his dealings with Transformers is what made me loathe him...His arrogance and down-right contempt for anyone who questions anything he does made me feel this way...The way he steamrolled over ILM and company for his Bayformers made me lose respect I didn't even have for him...I acknowledge his success, but he still makes the most generic movies I've ever seen in my life...But like I said I liked Bad boys 1 and The Rock...Guess it helped I was teenager and I made out with my GF during both movies...
ALright I lied I made out just during the Rock, I actually was into Bad Boys 1 because Martin was at the height of his career then...
@Autobot032 -
Dude I'm not about to get into another argument, worship Bay all you like I don't have the energy...
I don't own one Bay film...But what's funny is while I never liked Bay, his dealings with Transformers is what made me loathe him...His arrogance and down-right contempt for anyone who questions anything he does made me feel this way...The way he steamrolled over ILM and company for his Bayformers made me lose respect I didn't even have for him...I acknowledge his success, but he still makes the most generic movies I've ever seen in my life...But like I said I liked Bad boys 1 and The Rock...Guess it helped I was teenager and I made out with my GF during both movies...
ALright I lied I made out just during the Rock, I actually was into Bad Boys 1 because Martin was at the height of his career then...
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Comment by ChromedomeMK2
Jul 18, 2007
Good for him, he have along way to go.
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Comment by nelson_michaelbay_com
Jul 18, 2007
Is that article referring to domestic box office only? If that's the case, then the article is right.
If it's referring to international box office results, then it is wrong. Previous to Tranformers, Bay's films had made somehwere around 2 billion worldwide.
If it's referring to international box office results, then it is wrong. Previous to Tranformers, Bay's films had made somehwere around 2 billion worldwide.
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Comment by SoooTrypticon
Jul 18, 2007
Having paid for Ratatouille to see Bay's latest effort to hold a camera (you know, an ILM friend says Bay can't even get insurance for his cameras because he breaks so many) I feel no sorrow, only pity. Maybe when he screws over the Dinobots and introduces Arcee (voiced by Halle Barry) people will come round. "Me Grimlock say 'Wus up lil' bitches?'"
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thats what i said. his other films reached the billion dollar mark. before he started working with transformers
Comment by Mr.RobotoAutoMan
Jul 18, 2007
nelson_michaelbay_com wrote:Is that article referring to domestic box office only? If that's the case, then the article is right.
If it's referring to international box office results, then it is wrong. Previous to Tranformers, Bay's films had made somehwere around 2 billion worldwide.
thats what i said. his other films reached the billion dollar mark. before he started working with transformers
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Is that supposed to be impressive or something?
Comment by The Paragon of Virtue
Jul 18, 2007
SoooTrypticon wrote:Having paid for Ratatouille to see Bay's latest effort to hold a camera
Is that supposed to be impressive or something?